NEW Mormon Cartoon just dropped.... It’s bad
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I’m a Latter-day Saint, let’s go through this video. Typically these videos analyzing children’s animatics reveal far more about the video maker than the religion, like a cringe social media Rorschach test.
0:45 ah, so you cringe at regular real life scenarios. Wow, little kids are cringey, who knew. Touch grass.
1:00 Wards are organized geographically. The diversity of your ward reflects the diversity of the area you live in. And in fact the church is seeing most of its growth among minority groups, not whites. I live in the most white and Mormon parts of Utah and my ward is still pretty diverse, with plenty of foreign born members. You’re just outing yourself by saying your local ward is all white. Either because you’re seriously colorblind and thought all the people you saw there were white because you assume all Mormons must fit that mold, or because you live somewhere actually that homogenized. Also, this isn’t an argument against Mormonism, it’s just a dig. There’s no way for them to win. If the cartoon showed an all white congregation you would have said “look how pasty white and lacking in diversity Mormons are.” As if skin color determines truth or value. Might want to read “I have a dream again.”
1:30 accountable for drawing a rockin’ frog perhaps. Dang, I wish Jesus put my childish drawings on his fridge door. If you can’t tell, I’m making fun of how ridiculous and flimsy this critique is. Show me any Mormon who believes Jesus wouldn’t laugh fondly at this.
2:00 projecting perversion onto children, classy.
2:05 Ah, so you actually haven’t ever been to a Latter-day Saint service. Yeah, this is just the Eucharist. Latter-day Saint churches are completely volunteer run and doesn’t have paid clergy, so there’s no collection plate, all donations are confidential and voluntary. As for the baptism thing, when you take the sacrament you’re reaffirming your baptismal covenant, but they still give it to everyone, baptized or not. If you’re not baptized it’s just there to help you feel closer to Christ.
2:15 notice how when he shows actual footage of LDS services they’re just as diverse as the cartoon. As opposed to this supposedly all white ward near him that he’s never actually been to and invented from his mental stereotype of Mormons.
3:00 It’s more about the ability to make conscious decisions. If a three year old shattered your dishes, you wouldn’t think much of it. But if an eight year old did, they’d be grounded because they knew what they were doing. This practice was instituted to preach against the Catholic idea that infants should be baptized, and that those who aren’t go to hell. Book of Mormon has a whole chapter (Moroni 8) about why infant baptism is an abomination. This would also be a good time to note that Latter-day Saints are universalists, we believe everyone gets into heaven.
3:45 uh-huh, real psychological warfare. Dad told the kid he wasn’t mad or in trouble, gave the kid the power to organize the discussion about the sacrament (so the kid knows what they’re gonna be talking about), and even promised treats. Seems like a standard family dinner table discussion. The kids don’t even get reprimanded. What are you mad about?
4:20 you need to get your history straight, or just learn to count. The provision about the emblems of the sacrament is D&C 27. The Word of Wisdom which advises against strong drinks (which could still allow for very mild alcohol) was given much later in section 89, and that advice wasn’t made a commandment until years after that. And the Word of Wisdom also states that there’s an exception: having “pure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make” to be used for the Sacrament. You see the reason they stopped using wine was because the people they bought it from were literally poisoning them! If you didn’t know, people really hated Mormons back in the day (many still do), look up the Mormon Extermination Order is you don’t believe me. Anyway, had to start making it themselves, which wasn’t tenable, so God told them that the spirit of the ordinance mattered more than the emblems and allowed them to use water.
Of course, if we did use wine on the regular, I bet you would still complain about us giving wine to small children on a weekly basis. (Bro, I was joking! But you actually do exactly that at 5:45 you just can’t win with these people.)
4:55 Just so everyone knows, God doesn’t hate coffee. There’s nothing sinful about it. We abstain because we want to show God that we love him more than worldly pleasures and are willing to sacrifice for him. It also helps people develop self-discipline and control, because heaven forbid we encourage people to be self-reliant rather than become dependent on substances to function. We also do it because it’s, you know, healthier. There’s a reason Latter-day Saints live 8-11 years longer on average.
5:15 Look, just because the majority of Latter-Day Saints speak a second language due to all of us dedicating two years of our lives to serving local communities around the globe at our own expense, doesn’t mean we’re going to use that fact to flex on all you monoglots by only producing the Book of Mormon videos in Hebrew and Nahuatl so that no one else can understand them. But if you want to watch it in those languages, you can, because we also translated all these videos into dozens of languages. Including near extinct Mayan languages that don’t have any written language like Tseltal, all so that we can share the message of the Book of Mormon with the actual descendants of those people. See the article here: www.ldsliving.com/in-their-own-tongue-new-technology-brings-the-book-of-mormon-to-people-who-lack-written-language/s/10798
Oh, and by the way, the church went out of its way to get Native American actors for those videos as well.
6:15 because 1. Very few tribes had written language. 2. These guys get exterminated at the end of the Book of Mormon and their records are destroyed. 3. All the other tribes are also pretty much extinct today, there are almost zero full blooded native Americans left in the world. And 4. Despite all of this, several tribes have maintained these stories in their oral traditions, and then they convert en masse once they read the Book of Mormon.
6:55 so we’re mocking poor people now? Poor people like… Jesus? You’re right, we should force all the impoverished African wards to use artisan bread and fine wine for their sacrament meetings. Sure, there’s no way they could afford it, but at least they wouldn’t have to worry about looking poor. Talk about first world problems.
7:15 you know there are plenty of people who actually talk like this, right? It’s not weird. But shame on them for trying to accurately represent people and be inclusive. Look I know you hated being forced to watch Dora the Explorer as a kid, but can you stop being so negative about everything?
7:35 yes, a children’s cartoon using the actual objects involved for an object lesson, how silly and stupid. Clearly they should just have a guy preach into a camera instead, that’ll help the kids understand better. Also, was that you attempting a Spanish accent? I honestly can’t tell. As a final side note, these JW clips really aren’t comparable to what’s being said in the Latter-day Saint video at all.
8:25 Bro, these are some of the most generic Christian messages ever. People have been saying this stuff for 2,000 years. I’m sorry a children’s cartoon about Jesus is too spiritual and emotional for you. If you want something more logical, I would suggest you stop dissecting children’s cartoons and start engaging with the evidence, because believe it or not, we don’t tell people to avoid investigating the church, quite the opposite. The Book of Mormon is all about empiricism. For example, that “pray for a good feeling” thing at the end of the book is actually a promise that you’ll receive a supernatural experience. God knows what it will take to convince you, and he’s willing to give it to you if you’re willing to accept the outcome.
Babe wake up, new Mormon propaganda dropped
Yes I’ll make popcorn
I’ll start the coffee, you turn on the TV
Anyway babe if you get converted you lose
@@Bbnodollarsign lol 😂
I am awoken I'll make some breakfast
Fun fact, (exmo here), the sacrament could be ANY solid food and any liquid. I was taught that we could use sprite and skittles if we had to as long as it was blessed properly.
That's a new one. Wait if jesus's body was made of Skittles then he is made of rainbows if he's made of rainbows then is he gay? My dad was Mormon but was kicked out for being gay so I'm very confused.
@@nola281 I mean rainbows aren’t inherently gay
@@nola281 The rainbow was originally a symbol of God's promise to never flood the earth again (Noah's Ark).
@@DN27-od1wh I know that but given how much they don't like the LGBTQ I'm surprised they would use Skittles as Communion. As I said my dad is gay, apparently he sang for the tabernacle choir before stonewall.
@@MedicJohn-jn1yj hello Katrina.
I love how both JW-s and Mormons can’t fully decide the dad character’s ethnicity. When this dad talks, i hear a Spanish accent, with the general style, and a Hungarian accent, with semi-crude vowels and rolling R-s, at the same time.
He was talking Spanish. I hear "Mijo" (My son) and "Mi amor" (Mi amor)
I know 😭😭😭😭
@@gumisora yes but the accent(s) are still there.
But why did they do this?? And why always the father???😭 I don't understand
Sounds more like Dracula!
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@@petucker548 I ❤ propaganda
I love propaganda
Seems pretty tame compared to the JW propaganda, at least the kids didn't seem quite as tormented as Caleb and Sophia.
Dude, if Caleb tried to go to the girl's party from last episode, he would get a lecture for every party related item in there.
overall the lds is way chiller than JW's by far
oh i agree, i wouldve MUCH preferred to be raised mormon than jw growing up tbh. 😭 but i would prefer neither if i had the honest choice.
The kids are not pu.meled with judgemental shame and condemnation but rather taught best practices here. Way better.
Still cartoons like this are generally cringe
@@devonmarr9872 Not really though. Alyssa Grenfell goes in deep, there are others I'm sure but I can't remember them from the top of my head.
Really any organized religion acts under the same bounds with ludicrous rules that feed on guilt and shame, traumatizing young minds.
This includes christianity/catholics, and other more out there churches. Its the same theory with different skins.
Mormons and JWs: you WILL be bored in church. Sit still and shut up. This is not an option.
My liberal hippie Protestant church: yeah we know kids get bored, so we made our own Bible-themed coloring books and put them in the pews. Also, we’re baking pretzels in Sunday School today
my local catholic church does that too! I think it's cool
My mom’s solution to church services being boring was to not go. I attribute my lack of religion to my mom’s ADHD. I am very thankful for my mom’s ADHD. I just wish she hadn’t passed the AHDH to me.
Same the kids get coloring things.
My local church does that too. I actually help out with the kids activities some weekends, like a very short story and lots of craft and playtime. Even before the kids are sent out the kids are allow to run around too. I literally can’t imagine the church without that excitement tbh.
Eastern churches keep kids locked in by being so immersive and spectacular. Also some have little marketplaces beside them where you can get traditional snacks and various objects like books, jewelry, trinkets, icons, ect..
You can tell that whoever was in charge of the script for these cartoons actually had children. Those little jokes are truly endearing. Caleb’s dad would never hide under a table after being duped into doing “women’s work”
I never saw Caleb's dad lift a finger in the kitchen, at least Mormons are like, 2% less sexist!
Cause Calebs dad is a Chad alpha
@@user-yy7gq5yw5kbrutha euhwwwwwwww
Dad at first looked dissatisfied when the communion was passed at church, probably because it wasn’t cheesy bread😢
love me some cheesy bread bruh
@@maddogproductions5930 pairs great with the wine, I’m sure 😋
Got knows that bread ain't high quality
@@sanneoi6323 perhaps there’s an Italian bakery nearby that makes deliveries
Actually oddly enough Pre-baptized kids, Strangers off the street, and pretty much anyone who hasn't committed a sexual sin is allowed to take that bread and water.
I was invited to church and invited to take sacrament but no one said I couldn’t have committed a sexual sin and at that point I was definitely sinning… but I took it anyway. What’s going to happen to me now?
@@rachelengel6668 Nothing.. If you believe in god, even then nothing really will happen. Unless the mormons themselves find out, lol. Btw I believe in god.
@@rachelengel6668 you contract ligma
@@rachelengel6668Nothing will happen, except Mormons possibly shunning you if they find out. It's a man made construct to honor/remind people of their dedication to God. If you're religious, you already know that Jesus died for your sins and you will be forgiven if you repent. If you don't believe in that like myself, then it shouldn't really matter. Just work on growing as a person and trying to enjoy life.
@@rachelengel6668 It's really only a shame tactic that Mormons use for punishment instead of excommunicating people. The bread itself means very little to nothing. they only block baptized members who the bishop knows are sinning and even that's more an honor system. It's about the shame not anything real
as someone who used to be mormon, (born in utah) i didn't know that the sacrament wasn't a normal thing in other christian churches, i just thought it was normal
I love that your pfp is a regular panda lol
well like… i’ve been to like three different churches (1 in utah, 1 in california, 1 somewhere else - no clue where but in the USA) and they all did the bread and water, so I guess it maybe just depends on where you are? i dunno 🤷🏽♀️
Same!
Most Christian denominations use bread (or in many cases a wafer) and wine. Catholics get the wafer but only the priest drinks the wine. I was brought up Anglican(Episcopalian) and we used wafers and wine. All confirmed people could take the Communion bread and wine. (Confirmation is a ceremony adults undergo to confirm the baptism promises made on their behalf when they were babies).
@@molybdomancer195Well, lay catholics can take Jesus's blood as well, it's just not as common.
Having to wait for this premiere is like having to wait for my perfect man, Caleb and Sophia’s dad, to rescue me in his muscular arms and then I top him
Omg i love this comment
You spoke straight from my heart i swear
HELP I'M BOTH SHOCKED AND AMUSED
Hell yeah
They nerfed his arm muscles 💔
that's crazy
Another day another cult
another crazier cult.
@@3rdDantetherapistthis one isn’t even that bad?
@@Pyronek what?
@@PyronekLet’s just say they’re all bad
What is so much worse about them compared to other Christian Churches?
The dad saying he'd make dessert to then immediately start playing with the kid and the mom and older sister just start doing it is the most accurate part of this 12:41
The irony of this cartoon is that Miguel and Sophia were behaving the way most children behave in the sacrament meeting when I was LDS..... guess they are trying the clamp down on kids behaving like kids now.
Kids need learn some respect for authority
my parents let me draw and my dad would even play drawing games with me, my mom would too. it’s so weird to see them get upset about it lol
@@kasewiesel you learned easy life then. Won’t be good employee
i think my mom let me bring my 3ds once bc i was so damn bored
@@love__and__hope__ I don’t remember seeing “being a go employee” in the Bible, brother.
Fun fact as a trans ex-mo the focus on feelings is actually what made me quit the church. When I was 14, deep into Mormon lore and questioning my identity, I prayed and referred to myself with masc pronouns and I remember it felt so good that I was like "whoop time to trust my gut and not the church anymore" so here I am lol
What the fuck?
@@alexthedemon2203 what's not clicking?
Figuring out your gender identity, AND leaving the wacho religion? Two in one.
@@RagyRagd0llFiguring out your delusions
@@DoctorDocMD Everything is clicking
I'm not an ex-LDS member or ex-JW, but I've been to meetings of both of them (and not only those cults). And what I liked about the Mormon meeting that they didn't make the kids sit through this boring event, but allowed them to play, distract themselves, walk around, something I haven't even seen in an Orthodox or Catholic church.
P.S However there is a playground usually somewhere around an Orthodox church.
The local orthodox church around here allows kids to play with toys on the floor and move around a bit, as long as they aren't getting in the way of the priest, deacon, and altar servers and not causing major disruptions. They also have a kids corner for children to play in the eating area they can use during the services or after. A lot of parents will take them out and just come in during the communion line.
The weirdest meeting I've attended was a Raelian meeting. It's not an abrahamic religion, they believe that "gods" who they call "éloims" are in fact aliens and created us in a laboratory, and their messiah, "Raël" AKA a french man named Claude Vorillon, was taken to their planet and met Jesus and Mahomet. They also do many "adult" activities, if you get what I mean. That was trippy.
@@zanricIt is the exact same with many Catholic churches.
Most churches here have a separate room for younger kids.
I was about to say the same thing! my mom's closest friend is Mormon, and invited us to her church and they were so open to letting kids be kids. I saw a toddler crawl on the floor to chase another kid, and no one got upset when a kid got loud or talked. And they let the kids go to a play room whenever they want and they can bring out a toy or two from there as well.
Which was a huge shock for someone like myself who has been to many denominations of churches before, even though I am not Christian myself.
It's better than JW cartoon. They portraits "wordly" people as mostly normal people, as opposed to the JW who portraits them as evil and mean.
Edit: The character in the mormon cartoon seems suspiciously dark haired for being LDS.
And named Miguel lol
Since when are Latter-day Saints stereotypically blonde?
Yeah dude, my ward is at least 60% hispanic. Idk where you're getting that from.
What an ignorant comment.
I hope those men breaking up the bread washed their hands first! It doesn’t look very sanitary.
As an exmormon: they have a huge bottle of sanitizer up there and usually use a ton right before, lol. You can sometimes taste the rubbing alcohol on the bread
@@enoua5222bruh just wash your hands
yes its normal to do at least with sanitizer
Exmo here. When I ripped up the bread we washed our hands first with the sink used to fill the tiny water cups
@@enoua5222Blehhhh that’s so nasty
it's really interesting that they discuss Jesus and the sacrament, because in Mormon church you'll spend very little time on Jesus and more time on what Joseph Smith wanted you to know
I don’t know what you’re basing this on, but most of the talks are about following Jesus and trying to be the best we can be. Joseph Smith is not an oft used topic. Get your facts straight before you say horrible things about something you don’t understand.
@@michelebowers9694 based on personal experience in the LDS church, but thanks for the reply!
Someone’s pants are on fire
@@dr.crazyco2916 Joseph Smith's, yea
@@michelebowers9694 I think that is why anyone is still in mormon church. They just don't talk about this crazy stuff about golden plates, translating from the hat, man with trumpet between themselves! Genius!
4:56 You're joking, but as an exmo I can tell you that you can literally bless anything for the sacrament. So blessing orange juice and coca cola would be completely valid for the sacrament. I've heard stories of people blessing lifesavers because they didn't have any bread.
Not the Coca Cola that has caffeine
@@ajhalkeright7043 kinda funny since the LDS church owns a lot of their stocks
Oh my god the dads smile is terrifying
mormon mezga dad
Slight correction: little kids who aren’t baptized can take the sacrament as practice, but it doesn’t mean anything.
"Orange juice, or chocolate milk, or coca cola."
*For God, Country and Coca-Cola flashbacks*
Thanks for covering Mormon propaganda too!
He is friends with Alyssa Grenfall who left the Mormon church and had to deal with her own culty upbringing. So he’s probably bringing awareness to both.
It's not a cult monkey.
@@danielthecake8617 yes it is a cult
@@danielthecake8617did you just call them monkey? I thought you were LDS
@@nostromza3433 How to Recognize a Cult
Absolute authoritarianism without accountability.
Zero tolerance for criticism or questions.
I have tons of questions and am not punished Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget.
Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecutions
Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget.
Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecution
The financials are fully disclosed and were not evil we actively help the community
Nope, you can take the sacrament without being baptized. You just can’t take it if you’re being punished by the bishop.
"now, miguel, when you think about the bread and the sacrifice of christ, what do you see?" *lightbulb ad*
1:20 i lost the cringe challenge
Okay I think I just did too… 😂
At the same spot
me too, when they tried to say the blood of Jesus can be water because they think wine is bad even though wine is throughout the entire Bible
Same here to be honest
Miguel's dad's slavic accent paired with Spanish words made me lose it
Jesus being like: Beam me up scotty!
Ah yes, us exmos are eating well this Saturday morning. These cartoons kind of remind me of the Matt and Mandy comics that used to be featured in the Friend magazines. I think the comics were only recently discontinued though, despite being around since 1994. Perhaps Miguel and Sophia murdered them in cold blood so they wouldn’t have any competition. It’s a shame, really, those comics were the only thing I actually liked reading from the friend magazine, lol.
6:05 I lost it. 😂 floating Jesus beamed up to the clouds
It’s amazing how both father characters in LDS and Watchtower videos speak with the same accent.
On a serious note, I think that many religions (I am a Roman Catholic) try to imbue "Their version" of how they interpret the life of Jesus Christ. And that is fine, let them interpret the way they see fit. But, they forget about a simple request made by one of the prisoners on the cross beside Jesus. He said to Jesus "I am guilty of my crime, and my punishment is just. But please father, do not forsake me". And Jesus told him that he would sit beside him in paradise. A lowly prisoner.
It doesn't take elaborate rituals, it doesn't take consumption of foods or drinks to be forgiven by Jesus. It only takes a humble heart, a belief that you did wrong, and that you want to be forgiven. And yes I know there are many who have done heinous crimes. But, there is forgiveness even for those who do not believe. You do you!! It's wrong to indoctrinate or force anyone into a belief no matter how "noble or righteous" the cause. It is better to offer and simply be refused, than it is to make someone believe against their will. So do not judge and "forgive and let live".
Yes. The thief showed repentance. And that’s important for all of us to remember and do. I don’t think it’s very difficult to get to paradise if we are truly repentant.
The point of the rituals is to show your devotion. I.e. you're willing to do something tedious
@@danielthecake8617 And if your doing good deeds, being good to your neighbor, and good to the community is that any less different? This is about forgiveness. Anybody can do a ritual(s) and still not be penitent in heart. My point is it doesn't take a ritual to ask for forgiveness. It takes truly being sorry for your words and deeds and humbling oneself to God.
@@deathstrike It is necessary to take part in public in Mass, liturgy, because it is the crowning of christian life - participaing in Christ Sacrifice. Without Sacraments being nice to neighbour means nothing, and it cannot give Salvation. The most impotrant principle is to love God, and loving God means worhip Him at Mass, loving Him means respecting His law, afther this cames love to neighbours. Withous first one it is dull charity.
Context; Jesus and two thieves are nailed and dying, how could they do the ordinary ritual? The two thieves were not even baptized but Jesus forgave their sins anyway because he is God. But he never said certain (Christian, not Jewish) rituals were unnecessary. Rituals are works, and we don't get salvation by works. We do works because we love God.
10:23 lost it here lol
They're literally gaslighting people into think their own imaginations are actually Jesus talking to them, lol. They're CRYING over that. I can't even, dude.
I can approve of the LDS church being so focused around feelings. Growing up you always hear like "After you pray, just listen to the still, small voice and you will get your answer." I tried so hard to find this said "still, small voice" but I truly have never experienced this or other promptings from the Holy Ghost. Having this alienated feeling even in discussions where church leaders ask everyone for their experiences with prompting and that feeling of comfort, I have nothing to say while everyone else embarks on their so-called "life-altering" interactions with the spirt. Sick stuff.
Same. I had to force myself to feel the spirit.
Eventually, that all died down. And when I was finally honest, I said " I don't have anything. "
Everyone looked at me in an odd way, they tried to get something out of me, but I didn't have anything to say.
And while invalidating, I felt truly happy, it made me feel like I was being truly honest and myself. I found some freedom within that.
10:56 Jesus looks like John Wick when all the bad guys are laughing at him like "You will never beat us all", just before the epic fight scene
I cringed so hard at Jesus floating into space I almost choked on my bacon from laughing.
Bro I watched almost all your JW cartoon vids and they help me focus on scripting my roblox game... Thank you for being in my front page ❤
your making a roblox game about the jws?
What roblox game are you making
@@Gioizout24it's a retro style tycoon where you attach a rope from you to a cart and you need to collect bricks and put them in your cabin to make money
It's gonna be called "Scrape for a Few Bucks Simulator"
@@Gioizout24I actually currently have a decent beta but it is friends only (my username is jjjuuyyjjll if you wanna check it out) (I'm proud of my free model free game)
@@julianandhisanimefriends4033 My dyslexic ass misread that as roblox game about the Jews.
I got refused help for having celiac.
My house caught fire and my LDS friend from out of state sent me to my local chapter to try her best to help me. I attended and the offered me sacrament, I apologized and said that I have celiac disease and couldn't eat the bread. They took offense and refused to help me.
So you're gluten-intolerant. Those people are false in their faith if they refused to give you aid. Jesus would certainly not help them in their time of need. Karma
@@thegreatlordcthulhu9852no, mormons and jenovah's witnesses twist the bible more, Jesus Christ actually help people
@thegreatlordcthulhu9852 It's more than intolerance or allergies, my lower intestine will destroy itself, but I appreciate your words.
I don't know when that happened, but most LDS churches aren't like that. They offer a gluten free option most of the time. I'm sorry they turned you down, and I'm sorry that happened to you, but just know that LDS members do not condone that kind of behavior. So, please do not see all LDS members like that. Most of them are kind and caring people.
@@gumballfan13agreed, in my ward of the church, we use bread and I think they are called rice cakes because some people can’t have gluten.
I've had a few Mormons come by my door. I've always been nice, I can't fault them for trying to convert me. That being said, I do tend to ask questions to try to stump them. I was, for awhile, a "training" house. To become a door knocker, you had to pass my house.
Imagine harassing someone because they wanted to share something that makes them happy.
@danielthecake8617 what harassing? First off, I didn't ask them to knock on my door. Second, I was exceedingly polite. As long as someone is polite about my beliefs, I will remain polite about theirs. Third, they *asked* if I'd be a training house, and I agreed *because I wanted to be nice and help.*
They use WATER for the communion!!!
The one thing I don’t like about cartoons like these is when they use actual Bible stories and the truth about those stories only to promote the twisted doctrine for there own gain…
As a Christian… this gives my mind and Spirit Cringe…
“Twisted doctrine” is such a goofy way to refer to someone else’s (only slightly different from your own) religious beliefs
@@obamabarack1816There is no such thing as "slightly different" when it comes to mormonism. The differences between it and most Protestant denominations is MASSIVE! And these differences become even more apparent the more east you go.
@@obamabarack1816 As a Mormon/LDS, thank you for defending us. God bless you.
@@obamabarack1816it's true, it's twisted doctrine
@@obamabarack1816 It isn't slight, and when compared to what the Bible actually says, yes, "twisted" too. We're not talking about preferences or comparing religion to, say, secular standards (which takes no religion seriously and treats them all like hobbies) where it doesn't matter. Within the context of the Christian faith and what Christ says (which they claim to follow), it is very much twisted.
3:09 is where all the budget went.
Underrated comment.
Even if these native Americans didn't know or realize at all who Jesus Christ was, wouldn't they at least pass the story around or write it down that a man floated/flew back into the sky??? This would be too amazing and supernatural not to talk about it.
And I don't know about you but it's a BIT of a stretch to think of Jesus dying and conquering sin whenever I look at bread and water.
Huh
As far as ive learned native americans didnt really have written history but there would DEFINITELY be oral history about jesus
@@BasteAndThreadpilled or paintings/drawings
how would jesus feel about baguettes tho
I think J-dog would appreciate a nice baguette
5:58 Jesus really just went creative and dipped.
I like that you said "white Jesus" bc Jesus definitely was not white lol
some religions believe that Jesus is white although he isn’t i think that’s what he meant
I know i was agreeing with him
@@jaymes3554 oh my bad
Recently, I found out Catholics have their own version of the Holy Ghost. I'm an atheist that goes to the catholic chrism classes because my mother forces me to, and I just realised that we also have the "Holy Ghost" that can grant us the power to cast minor blessings, and if you're a priest, grants the power to forgive sins(?).
Hello, practicing Catholic here. I’m sorry you’re being made to go to classes when you’re not really interested in participating in the sacrament of Confirmation. Everyone has their own faith journey, and while I do believe that the sacraments are very important sources of grace, it might also be worth your while to talk to your instructors and explain where you’re at belief-wise. It’s better to be honest and open about what your actual thoughts and beliefs are than to approach something holy and meaningful out of obligation/force - it will only lead to discomfort and bitterness for you. That being said, I will pray for you as you continue your classes.
It sounds like you’ve got a very rudimentary understanding of the Holy Spirit but there is a lot that you’re missing or misunderstanding. The Holy Spirit is God, just as the Father and Jesus are God, and while everything we do is by the grace and power of the Holy Spirit, it’s not so much that He gives us (or priests) magical abilities, but more that He manifests God’s life and power in us in certain ways, as a gift. I don’t know if that makes sense, but I do encourage you to do your own further research, read good books, and talk to people who are strong in their faith and can explain things in a sincere and honest way. I wish you the best of luck in this process, and I hope that in the end you are able to do what is consistent with your heart and beliefs either way.
We have the Holy Ghost/Spirit, yes. but it is nor "our version", it's straight from the Bible - mormon and JW religion are actually much younger than catholicism, they're formed in 19th century.
They do the communion with water, because they think that it's going to turn into wine... 😆 🤣
Naw😂
Congrats for 50k!!! Thanks for another good one 😘💃🏻🙌
To be fair, we learned in history that back in the day, wine was the drink, bc a lot of water was not drinkable, or it was hard to get (Wells and stuff). So wine was used a lot, besides water. That means, nowadays, you can interpret wine as water for non alcoholic things, but I know it sounds cooler, if Jesus's blood was wine, bc of the color. I just think, it's the least of the problem here xDD
As a ex-mormon nobody bats an eye if kids have some bread and water before they’re 8.
10:58 hes just taking those hits like it happens every day
For me it was when white Jeues floating away?!
9:01
That makes sense for people who believe in some form of supernatural entity/religion not to search for proofs, as I understand, the whole point is to believe, and the supernatural by definition, can't be proved. The whole thing is subjective. That's why it's not called learning facts, but believing in religion. That's my understanding, as someone who is born in a atheist family and is an atheist for all my life.
Theres a good quote I can't remember the author of:
The sign seeker finds none, while he who does not will find many.
i’m sorry man but my religion tells me that I have to get upset over you being an athiest blah blah on no you’re get bad blah blah listen man I don’t know if it’s even possible for me to say this right now but my religion basically forces me to say something about you minding your business and if I had the ability to ignore you I would man something something read the Bible I don’t even wanna be bothering you i’m sorry if I did
I can't wait... and yet I have to, lol😂.
3:20
How is everyone glossing over this part?
“We need to have a chat after church.”
“Wh-What did I do? Ar-are you mad at me?”
A weirdly interesting insight into the psychological abuse done by Mormons. To the point where even in a propaganda cartoon that’s supposed to make the church look good, their propaganda children are subject to normalized abuse & they put this out.
I was raised in the church and would like to point out that what happens in the cartoon is inaccurate. However, I’m aware ex members might have experienced these things, but it is solely based on parenting that can cause that.
uh-huh, real psychological warfare. Dad told the kid he wasn’t mad or in trouble, gave the kid the power to organize the discussion about the sacrament (so the kid knows what they’re gonna be talking about), and even promised treats. Seems like a standard family dinner table discussion. The kids don’t even get reprimanded. What are you mad about?
Im not a mormon, but nothing strikes me psychological abuse. Most kids will say that to their parents. I did and i wasnt abused. Lol
"What did the water and bread remind you of?"
It remind of times when I want to eat something but don't really have money to spend
nah, when the dad asked Miguel to close his eyes I got an ad for Saudia airlines
Hi, Panda! Thank you for giving me this insight on Mormonism! I did see the first video of this, and now this! Indoctrination is present among my pack! I WILL NEVER ALLOW BRAINWASHING! GRRRRR!
moral of the story: bring coffee and solidified stovetop grease as sacrament
Exmo here- I love your content! Thank you so much for covering Mormon cartoons as well!
1:23 I lost it. When he turned to Timmy Turner here!😂😂😂
YOOOO NEW INDOCTRINATION DROPPED!!!
This is honestly a cartoon that sets us LDS in a bad light
Ngl the Mormon cartoons seem way more enjoyable to watch.
As an Ex Mormon I'd rather watch the JW stuff. The Mormon cartoons are triggering and try to make me feel guilty. The JW stuff is new and interesting and doesn't come with emotional baggage for me. 😂
the characters at least act like an actual people for the most part
😂😂😂😂😂 oh I LOVE this !!!
Thank you so much ! Your hard work makes it easier to wake up !!!
It's Mormon time!
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Subscribed!! love your videos dude. Been learning a lot about JWs and Mormons and been cringing a lot. Some of it reminds me of my Seventh Day Adventist mother
5:53 this os the exact moment i cringed 😭😭
Hi its me again! Exmo, 17, just gonna write this as I watch!
2:11 Even people who aren't baptized yet can partake of the sacrament! The way they teach us it works is that it sort of is like a mini baptism where you repent of sins and renew your covenants. Boys who turn 12 are allowed to pass the sacrament. There is often a designated bench for them, and a little guide to show what path they need to take. After the sacrament has been passed, they then partake in the sacrament, and once it is fully over, they are invited to sit with their families.
5:16 the explanation they give for this is because back then wine was often much safer to drink than water, which could often be contaminated, or filled with disease, so in that case it's okay. Now that we have good water, we are expected to abstain from caffeine or alchohol. From what I know, the church is more lenient with poorer countries on this that may not have access to good drinking water.
6:19 they all kill each other at the end of the book, the only native americans left are the lamanites and nephites who turned from god, and moroni, mormon's son, who burried the golden plates, along with the urim and thummim (seer stones, my parents often related to the internet, where you have any knowledge you want, just without any false information. This is supposedly how Joseph Smith translated the book of mormon.
7:37 Mormons LOVE using props and dumbing down lessons for kids in a "fun" way.. often treats at the end. Only reason I kept going for as long as I did. Huge food culture in the mormon church
8:30 the holy ghost is literally every feeling you will ever feel pretty much haha... anxious? Paranoid? Any sort of instictive or gut feeling? Its a warning. Happiness, satisfaction or any sort of warm feeling is the "good job" from the holy ghost. I personally always mistook hunger for a "no" when praying.
13:35 They'd probably like to think that too if the chapel wasn't so damn cold in every building
Same as my last comment im always happy to answer any questions!
Gotta relate to the chapel being cold...
Seriously, it was literally colder in the chapel than anywhere else.
Btw, the reason they "dumb it down" is because the best way to learn about the Gospel is to build from the simpler parts onto bigger parts.
We can drink soda and caffine fyi
@@canadianmonarchist6357 while a lot of mormons do, it is technically not allowed. My parents are the kind of mormons who follow the word of wisdom super strict, to the point where we dont eat meat in the summer, and any caffeine, including sodas and teas, are strictly forbidden.
At luthran churches they use unleven bread
We used wafers in the LCMS.
Getting a pot of COFFEE ready for this one
Yay cult time
BABE WAKE UP, NEW PROPAGANDA JUST DROPPED
Literally when I was morman, there was always that one kid who just made drawings and didn’t even pay attention or participate in prayer.
I was definitely that kid sacrament meeting was a nightmare without a pencil and paper.
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There is always that kid causing the ruckus in church. Honestly it was usually funny because of the noises they made but I would always try holding back a smile.
Our ward has one kid that likes to invade the pulpit
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My ward just had the opposite. No child wanted to even go near the pulpit.
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
Ex mormon here, started deconverting at the age of twelve. No way in hell was any of the churches I've been to THAT diverse. I live in utah, been to roughly 18 churches, only ever saw roughly 6 black people. Also, did you know, there's such thing as hispanic wards? For spanish-only speakers? It's wild. The only mormons you'll ever run into are either white, or hispanic here in utah. I dunno how many other ethnicities there are, never payed attention. I went to a hispanic ward once because my aunt is hispanic, and I see black people so rarely, it catches me off guard when they do show up. Only reason why I noticed. Seminary in school, I swear to god, the times I went, there were so many blonde-blue eyed kids, I about had a stroke 😭💀
Panda plz do a 60,000 subscriber special. I’m sure we’ll be celebrating soon.
12:27 First time in history a religious cult member and their kid had fun and smiled???😨😨😨
4:45 "Timmy! Get downstairs! It's time to practice! Now, we didn't have wine, but Jesus really don't care so we're using Gamer Girl Bath Water!"
as a former mormon I can confirm its a cult
8:01 I saw a Safeway ad
Lol. I got a GMC Sierra ad.
You know, these cats really play up the funding brothers.... like Osiris and Seth....
I can’t wait for you to get bigger !!! Love the channel
Exmo here, very glad you're covering this. Sometimes it is good to know I'm not crazy for finding everything about it ridiculous. The part about people being told to pray and wait for feelings rather than actually researching the place always felt weird to me. And the worst part is some mormons use it to defend the faith, saying it makes it MORE trustworthy rather than less so.
So as a semi member of the LDS church I'll explain the sacrament is basically kinda like a mini baptism basically advertised to wash away your sins so if anyone has any questions your welcome to ask about the church
Is it problematic?
@@bhavyaasharmarollno1867 sometimes yes sometimes no i mean sometimes i can really get into yet and usully sundays make my anxiety peak as im a teacher which means i pass the good old sacrament
13:36 why is no one in the background moving are they paper statues
great point! not being able to sit through service without a coloring book is a good indicator they aren’t old enough to understand the depth of a baptism commitment.
13:12 why is there just a blonde haired blue eyed girl staring directly into my soul
1:41 help that was me in church 😭😭
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You're cooked god hates you now💀
Jesus may have died for our sins but that doesn’t mean we can stop sinning
I remember when I was a Christian and went to this one church as a kid, there was art all over the walls of Jesus being crucified, and people getting stabbed all over the place, and I also remember my dad telling me about Jesus's death when I was very VERY young, and I was horrified. I do not think that kids of a young age should have to hear about that, or see that. I had to get used to seeing that a lot.
NEW PROPAGANDA JUST DROPPED 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
2:43 why is his head so lumpy 💀💀
7:47 Baa 🐑
5:25 Not Surprised If They Used Cranberry Or Grape Juice When They Filmed It 😂😂🤣🤣
Why does Christianity and Mormonism want people to be emotional wrecks just to get saved by God?
I always hated when church says ho give me your money or God be mad that stupid why not they say give your money so you can support the crunch and it's ok if you don't it's your choice
Faith is not a felling
We don’t force people to pay tithe, if people aren’t financially able to then that’s fine, some blessings come with paying tithing though. God understand every person and isn’t going to cast out one of his children for something they have no control over. God is merciful, but also very powerful.
@@NathanKnight-kc7yj true
Oh no…
YES i'm finally early to a Panda upload !! keep making vids man
I mean, at least their Parents treat they better than the ones of "Kylo and Sofia"
I think, idk