40 Mph BALL SPEED GAIN w/ 1 SWING THOUGHT! (Really) Be Better Golf Craziest Before/ After Ever!
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This is such a good video. My 8 iron clubspeed went from 82 to 92. Hit 174 ballspeed last week with driver which was a personal best. I play a lot of sim golf. Cracked my driver face. But I’m able to maintain near top speed throughout the entire round as opposed to it all quickly dissipating. This is fantastic. You ought to invite this guy to your next be better golf school. Pushing hard off your left leg to initiate backswing is the way. I’m 55 years old and literally gained 10 mph with my irons using this technique. Just fantastic. My hook has also disappeared. Just insane. Thank you for posting this
Hey Brendon. Well you mentioning Doctor Kwon is the real story here. I’m 74 and have been working on his technique ever since you first aired your visit to TWU. Now this video tells me that I have not been active enough with my back swing. Thank you for investigating and posting your videos. I was stuck at 87 club head speed and today prior to seeing this video I got it up to 95. I’m really stoked now!
Keep up the good work.
Jerry
Excellent! Nice job. Try some fast twitch exercises through lifting or plyometrics ,sprinting,box jumps,burpees,etc..
Crazy what a difference an aggresive backswing makes! I'm 65, played for 15 years, 15 handicap, 250 average with 270 bests decreased to 230 and 250 couple years ago, but with you and Milo and Clay Ballard, improved. Dr Kwon drills were a game changer - 65% fairways on good round averaging 270 with 290 bests - suddenly, eagle putts every round. Same for my brother-in-law, never reached par 5s in 2, but doing it every round: the only change he's made is doing the rope drill to warm up. I flatter myself that if I dedicated myself to improving, I'd figure golf out as astutely as you have, so thanks for doing it for me and the rest of us. Based in LA, so once COVID calms down - highly vulnerable family member to consider - definitely interested in clinics.
It's not going to get more calm than this.
This is crazy! I was watching the Dr. Kwon videos and the two things I picked up on as well were the active backswing and the patient downswing. I then started rewatching Drew's videos just this week and was amazed at how similar what they were saying was. I went to the simulator and was hitting my clubs further than ever in the first session. My 7 iron normally carries 160 and I was clearing 200!
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Really🙄
Congratulations. Which Drew video?
Were your feet moving more like Drews or the other guy?
Yeah it works! I might add it helps to have as heavy a swing weight as you can handle with the irons as this will give you feel of where the club head is and make the transition smoother or patient. Didn't work for me with lighter swing weights (lost control and confidence) But your gain in distance sounds reasonable. When I execute it properly went from 135-138 carry with an 8 iron to 160 average and a 172 max carry!! Only real thought was shift left to start swing and take the club back fast using the body. Creates a bigger shoulder turn and more wrist hinge. Its a weird feeling at first because you would think you would lose accuracy however this is not the case. Think this is great for stronger,more muscular golfers because it creates less tension on the way back kind of like throwing a ball as far as possible
If you go back and look at David Lee and the Gravity Golf swing, he talks about "heaving" the club into the backswing. Then letting the club drop in the transition...I would equate this to what you said about being patient in the downswing. Great video Brendan.
I've been following Lee since the 90s and a lot of what he says is being echoed. A hard heave to top results in a good counter fall, a good counter fall allows you to have the 2-stretch Jack talks about gets the body moving towards the ball. You can't have a counter fall if weight is even or not enough movement towards the target at the top. And yes, at the transition, just let "gravity" drop the club back down(the patient part) while the lower body is cranking towards the target to generate CHS.
Between your chanel and wisdom in golf my golf has improved so much. From wisdom in golf I gained the knowledge of having the club face closed at set up then pushing my hands forward to square the face up and from your Chanel ( dr kwon and d cooper) I learned about letting the back swing mature and not snatching from the top. I hit a drive the last time I was out and hit the front of green that was 375 yards. It was on a semi links course and it was slightly down wind but even still I have played that hole before and haven’t been anywhere near the green. I was about 80 yards past my playing partners who would normally hit the ball the same distance as me. It wasn’t a one off either, I was past them all day and I only missed 1 fairway left, every other drive was on the fairway. Thanks for your insights keep up the great work. Can’t wait for the season ahead. 👏👏👏
Thank you for this content. This is truly inspiring. Can't wait to try this for my self and get better natural load in back swing. Thank you for introducing Dr kwon to the world.
It's about the torque. You have to resist harder to stop a faster backswing, so that when you do change directions you're at max force right from the top.
You are a renegade, but my Dad had this same idea 50 years ago. He said to make a full, powerful athletic backswing and focus all my concentration on relaxing at the top and allow the recoil to begin in a smooth, relaxed fashion and make a full follow through. He said doing it the other way was bassackwards, because a smooth backswing tends to make the transition an abrupt jumping at the ball - never thought I'd see this common-sense approach published on a public forum - good work!!!
These videos have really helped me tremendously. Thank you so much. One big thing I’ve noticed is that the left heel comes off the ground to get a more forceful takeaway and turn of the shoulders. I’m at an age where my limited range of motion requires the heel to come up to get this shoulder turn thus giving me more patience on the downswing and more speed.
Hey Brendon, I have been following this search with you for a while now and this is Money! It absolutely works...it allows me to finally get control of my transition and downswing. Thank you for sharing!
This is 100% the way. I've been playing golf for about a year and a half and have always been pretty athletic, but with the driver I started out around maybe 95mph club speed. I am now at 110-112 club head speed and around 155-160 ball speed, most of that speed has been gained through learning to turn and use ground force, also recently getting my trail elbow un stuck (thank you Dr. Kwon!) but I've always felt a little passive on my backswing which causes me to rush at the ball or have a "hit tendency". I have recently began to feel like I cant really turn or jump any harder through the ball to create more speed until I started getting more active on my back swing, watching this now... and thinking back to the Drew Cooper videos and the stuff I have watched with Berkshire, DeChambeau, and Como, it all completely makes sense, you have got to set your self up for speed, so you can accelerate before you have to produce the speed.
After watching Dr Kwon’s videos I’ve gained 15-20 yards consistently with each club 👍
Best video yet. Took in so much info after following you. Thanks a lot.
Berkshire been sayin this for a minute
Great stuff! If you can catch a video of Ian Woosnam in his younger days he had a similar move and could hit the ball miles for a guy of 5 ft 5 inches.
Very well explained when I was younger I could get around 180 ball speed using fast aggressive back swing but in a effort to be straighter I slowed it down ball speed down at 150 now and I'm no more accurate if not worse it's got me thinking
Thanks for the great video. In golf we are always learning. Awesome!
This is a classic example of the stretch - shorten cycle of muscles especially fast twitch fiber. You initiate the cycle by increasing the speed of the initial stretch... like stretching and releasing a rubber band. What's most interesting here is the other little alternating motions used to energize the body prior to the club moving. Think of simply springing up from a squat. If you go down slowly, hold an instant and spring up you will come nowhere close to quickly squatting and not hesitation as you spring up to a high point. Basic physiology but it's not taught in conjunction with the golf swing by very many. Another arrow in the quiver. ("Tour Tempo" by John Novosel demonstrates the affect of the faster back - thru action and many great players swung with a lot of backswing speed.... like a certain Ben Hogan.)
Love the content! Keep it coming. What I have noticed is golf instruction is actually just going classic like the old timers. No more of the concrete rigidity of the 90s resistance swing that infected golf instruction for so long. Dr. Kwon is like an amped up version of Harvey Penick swing the bucket.
Thanks and amazing achievement. Theres def something in this for me. I immediately went for a few swings to check my speed. I average 99-104 with my normal swing. Then taking a forceful back swing I ranged from 106-116 without really trying any harder on my downswing. An avenue to explore and practice for sure as I really dislike the pressure of 2nd shots from 150+
So true. If you can learn the big super speed movements, you'll get the distance for free even when it's toned down a bit for the course. Brilliant video this.
Hey man so cool you did this, I appreciate all the content you have for people.
Looks like a different driver or at least a different shaft……What equipment changes did you make? Longer shaft?
@@mooner5249 it’s a different shaft but short and light it’s a 44” epic flash sub zero tour ad iz. Prior-was epic flash with tensei blue
Great work man! That's some serious speed!
thats my brother!
I seen a similar thing from a pro online and my game yesterday was awesome, this definitely works, halfway through the video I went and hit a ball in the old school net and it rebounded halfway across my lawn, way further than any normal rebound that was hitting 200-225, this is a good way to think about the swing as a whole and increase performance, accuracy, and distance. I just play for fun tho, but quite a bit, few times a week for the last year or so year and half maybe
Yo bro I really appreciate your content. Thank you.
this is a great video ill have to try it. i'm kinda at his similar starting point usually im 160-165 mph ball speed my top has been 169 but havent found a consistent technique too use to raise it. I also have notice how fast bryson takes it back which is simular to this guys approach. my backswing is smooth and controlled but only focusing on speed in downswing currently.
Thanks for watching!
Had to be the video series with Drew. Had to be. The dynamic/active and faster back swing (force before motions) sets everything up for a faster downswing.
Think in one of your Malaska videos, Mike said he put his hands on Jack Nicklaus’ hips to feel what was going on, and he was amazed at how much force he used in his backswing.
Hi mate, another interesting video. I’m interested to hear your thoughts on full swing shots with short/mid irons. Do you keep the same approach? All of the Dr Kwon material seems mostly driver from what I have seen. Thanks.
Great stuff. I feel as though I brake the backswing by starting the downswing then wait for everything to change direction before smashing it. I guess that equates to the feeling of patience.
The way I understand it is this; the active backswing is used to generate momentum, providing a counter force to brace against, allowing a much higher downswing force to be gathered.
So like in a drag race, where you would hold the brake to build up engine RPMs before actually accelerating.
Sounds a bit like David Lee's Gravity golf,--Heave into the back swing then relax through the top of the swing.
Great video. So it seems to be a better approach to wind up the rubber band very tightly and then a controlled release. thanks
Another great addition to the step drill and Drew's feel is Sean Clement's throw the club feel. Using the step drill, feel like you're going to toss the club as far as you can down the line (maybe a little to the right of target for better in to out path). Helps fight the tendency to hit at the ball which causes casting which causes early extension. I've had a lot of success combining the two
I have 2 drills that have helped me immensely in creating separation. Take a plastic jar big enough to add about 1 quart to 1/2 gallon of water to. Make sure you cut off the top so its big enough to release the water. Make a backswing(less than full) and get the water to go as far as you can throw it. Great feedback! Also do the same drill with 4-6-8 lb medicine balls.
I saw video lesson on driving power by Rory McIlroy that describes the same backswing concept, which supports the validity of this video. Thank you!
Brendon, I’ve enjoyed your videos for years. I gotta say that your quest has been great.
As I’m getting older, less flexible, and having more time constraints with work and family, I think I’m getting off the ball speed “bus”. I think it’s great for younger folks or people who don’t have largely desk jobs/sedentary lifestyle/ (other than just going to the gym 4x/week or so). I think the quest for speed for most of us will end up shortening our golfing lives and may cause injuries that affect our daily living. I’m not sure a few more mph is worth it. I went down the SuperSpeed golf route, using GRF, and all that and gained considerable speed (for me). I’ve found that speed is so beneficial, but it tears me apart. My back aches from all that turning and torquing and side tilting, etc.
I think I’m going to go more of the way of Jimmy Ballard/Rocco Mediate and try to relive tension off my body and more specifically, back. I think at this point with my professional career, family life, and limited time, this change will help me. I’ve already been playing with this some, and I’ve found it to be more consistent and just plain easier to do. My ball speed has dropped to the low 150’s with driver, but my back is enjoying it. Plus, the top LPGA players are around that speed, and they’re tons better than me! So that speed is enough!
This is to Some Dude, I went thru Jimmy Ballard style training and my golf game went out the back door. I’m retired and started using a Milo/Dr Kwonstyle and my game came back.
@@simmo5071 thanks for the comment. I like Milo. I strongly advocate his emphasis on the right wrist extension in the swing, even through most of the downswing until you “throw” just past the ball. Not sure if I can turn as good as he does though.
This only shows more of how ahead of the time Mike Austin was he's already got this figured out in medical term and teaching way back in the 60s.
He was talking about the golf swing with Mike Dunaway of a swing being a fission not an explosion.
I got one up to 130 mph club speed once with my light driver using this thought going into my speed session.
He was the man
Love it!!
Body Activated back swing changed everything
Very interesting…. I used to do something similar when I was younger, going to find out if all my power is still there now at the range today something tells me you unlocked something I need to do in my swing that I stopped doing….
Hey Brendon would this more aggressive back swing help from taking the club a little too far inside and laid off? That seems to be my problem in the back swing.
l think I noticed the wrists over twisting showing club head moving behind the hands, pointing the handle way forward of the feet to ball go zone. Obviously destructive for ball speed smash factor given any club speeds . Which video harder one still , the hit the nail ? No, one of the stepping drills may of automatically pulled the club into position being a non stop motion ? Thanks again .
Gonna try this takeaway when I do my stack system speed training tomorrow. I’m 107-109 with my normal swing would like to live around 113-115.
We’ll done. Kwon kettle bell swings are quite helpful. Josh Koch with the Mach 3 stuff is amazing.
Cool video.
And Bryson definitely is patient on downswing. When giving people driving tips he always says to leave the hands up for longer at the start of the downswing when they are trying to generate more speed.
Athletic Motion Golf disagrees with the "leave the hands up" theory. They have put many PGA tour winners on their "gears" motion detection, and all the pros have a relatively fast, early lowering of their trail arm in the downswing. They do talk a lot about recentering.
I seen the same video I’m curious about that?
@@jackarmstrong1838 yes saw that one, it seems to get the right elbow in front of that right hip
@@jackarmstrong1838 It’s a feel. Golf is feel, not real.
This all makes me think of a golf article by Kelvin Miyahira several years ago called "Muscle Power Golf? NOT!" It was his assertion the power in golf comes from connective tissue, not muscle. So, a fast, violent backswing would more greatly load the stretch of the connective tissue than a slow and leisurely pace. The "passive" downswing is really just the golfer staying out of the way as the connective tissue delivers much greater power as it unloads its stretch.
Great video B. inspiring! Where did you get those awesome tour player slomos. loved em.
From Ed Lasater. They r on my telegram
Hi,yes we can get as tactical as we like.his stronger now ,working out hard ,with power work to get stronger.there is no way to get batter without improving your core and then hands, legs,arms.good for him ,trying to do it myself.stopped playing,workout and practicing .thank you
Not trying to cast aspersions but it appears to be a much much longer and whippier shaft?
Totally Dr. Kwon stuff...
ayoo this my gym teacher
Tried just staying active and athletic at address. Started my backswing when I had pressure on my lead heel and let that transfer to my back heel before I start the downswing. Got my best swing speed session today by +3. Which was +5 from day before yesterday.
i'm thinking to do this with a left handed club to help me speed up my backswing. what do you think of that?
This exactly why soo much can be lost in watching slow motion vids. It loses the dynamic swing elements just as you've shown here. Great content!
Drew is more turn than squat, and I noticed his throw went down his target line where yours went left. Great video!
How about consistency? Will I be able to hit still straight ?
Hi Brendon. The power; ground forces and direction comes from our swing center circle known as our obliques muscles groups. We see Dr. Kwon often touching them; but does not mention their name. Our Obliques also protects our spine from harm ; separates our upper body from our lower body and allows the head of our club to swing on it slanted circular path to the bottom of its swing arch where the head of our club becomes closest to its swing circle center..
So yes swinging the club as fast as the conditions of your obliques allows you to go is good. So no one please do not over do it. But know that the club head at the top your swing experiences a brief period of weightlessness loping clockwise at transitional part of the downswing. This is why you should never rush the downswing. To understand this better think of yourself inside a roller coaster going to the top and the weightless you feel as the roller coaster suddenly descends to the bottom.
Because of the above: instead of bending from my hips as I address my ball i now simply tilt my chest as this one action instantly activate my obliques muscles groups.
Hope I made myself clear. Cheers
So after you activate your obliques do you then bend your hips?
@@nicholasdemetriades9154 no. Do the hips bend a little? Probably; but I pay no attention to them as my lead knee moves my trail hip out of the way for my backswing and then on my downswing my trail knee automatically moves my lead hip our of my way.
Before I would focus too much on my hips and often found myself spinning my hips too fast on my downswing. I also feel more relaxed simply tilting my chest as I place my clubs perpendicular to my ball. My knees flexes in the degree they need to depending on the club I am using.
Also their in no swaying in my swing as my feet remains in the same place on the ground as they exchange pressure with the ground while I am swinging my club.
I Hope I made myself clear enough. When the weather is better I will be making a video on my new swing. Cheers
Great video ! 100% back, 80% through.
Awesome! Thank you!
The key is when in your golf journey to be doing this, specifically technique.. meaning this is probably not sound to apply to high handicappers. And what is the dispersion vs gained speed data look like?
Great stuff. I remember Kyle Berskshire recommending periodic range sessions where you spend the entire time hitting out of your shoes. By doing so, your body gets used to what it feels like to handle tremendous speed. You get faster almost organically. Get wild! lol.
I'm a pro long driver - my fastest recorded swing speed is 152mph
Its interesting to look at the setup changes on Schuyler as well. Look how much under the club his right hand on the extreme swing. 20:05.
good stuff
It's the thing I immediately noticed, just how quick the backswing was. Put simply if you have a fast backswing, you need to use more energy to reverse it.
I think the crux of all this is that muscles only work in one direction, E.G. they can only contract.
The back swing muscle group must have time to disengage, before the down swing muscle group starts to hit.
If you rush through the top of the swing, you will interfere with the hitting muscle group .
There is a vid on CZcams where Kyle Birkshire tells Bryson about being patient in the transition. He also told Bryson to not be afraid to let the body move away from the ball in the backswing.
He is just swinging more and more aggressive through the ball...looks looser as well...thanks for another great video...going to try the med ball toss
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Idk how
That looks a lot like what Matt Wollf is doing with the hip activation at address and the right elbow going away from the body, slight hesitation at the top then fire.
So somebody corrected me if I’m wrong (...and a thought provoking vid by the way 👍) but what is the lesson here is to take a fast moving (but not “jerky” or sudden) backswing, and then a downswing that is not overly fast but complete and well performed - that is how you maximize your power? (I’ll give it a try!)
And who would have guessed that the backswing speed was what you needed to increase!?!?!
You could watch the Dr Kwon stage drills to help you do it correctly
This works, no BS here. Faster back swing allows for better no deliberate move back thru to the ball. Thx!
Please do this with a senior (or anyone else) golfer with a sub 100 mph clubhead speed. They need the increased speed as much if not more than the young strong golfers shown in most videos.
Plus 6.7 AoA and more backswing speed.
Or
Hit it over a tree and hook the crap out of it?
Not sure if camera angle but ball is more forward and he is more extended and tense after.
Hogan foot drag through the ball - he’s less rooted to the deck, more mobile.
🤷🏼♂️
I've noticed doing Dr Kwon drills ,when you do a fast back swing you literally have to slow it down at the top to get back in control that causes the much needed wait at the top.
Definitely. Have to be careful to find your limit otherwise prone to sway slighly. I use a pole in the ground about 1" away from my back thigh on an angle
Commenting at 5:10 mark so I have a long ways to go, but here is my answer before watching the whole thing (no cheating here lol) it seems to me, the biggest change was the increase in backswing speed, combined with more rotation through the ball, it almost looks Bryson DeChambeau esque the way he’s finishing and spinning that lead foot out. So probably using more ground force reaction. Other than that I can’t see anything else that he is doing on a visual analysis.
Yes definitely a correlation between using the ground more and distance. Make sure you have good golf shoes because otherwise you will slip!!
I started golf in 2021. Last year my max driver speed was 105 mph. I did speed training and went up to 134 mph in 3 months. It's not that unbelievable. Just have to do speed training all the time consistently. You'll get faster. Ball speed also went from about 150 to 194 mph.
What I observe is the new backswing brings the club further back, the right elbow flies instead of staying tucked and the overall width seems wider. This provides more path length to accelerate the club.
Not cheating. What he did so much better was take the club back at a much faster rate. In turn I think that cleaned up his swing plane. His last swing with 130 clubhead speed is a much freer swing, with better flow. (Very Kwon-esque).
Excellent vid, great insight regarding both pre- and back- swing dynamics. However, I feel compelled to point out one major problem: it's either "nailed it down" or "brought it home" but most certainly not "nailed it home." 😉 @13:26
Not sure if anyone will notice but on my 2nd day of golfing ever I hit 310 yards at golf galaxy. So let's see if I can improve my stroke and ball impact placement ... happy Gilmore #
Ok so roughly and quickly backswing (potential energy) then relax slow and out .. ok up try it
DK definitely!
Brandon, what about Cameron Champ? He looks so effortless and is hitting these numbers.
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To me, the big difference is, in the faster backswing, he's aggressively force loading either the stretch-reflex, the connective tissue, or both, whereas his slower backswing was just a deliberate positioning of the club at the top of the backswing. In the faster, more aggressive backswing, once the stretch-reflex and/or connective tissue is loaded, it fires itself leaving the golfer almost feeling like an innocent bystander.
Drew works with Dana Dahlquist. So this is what we are watching
Heck out David Lee’s Gravity Golf
What score can he shoot?
I was doing a clothes hanger drill with a shortened swing and accidentally ran into this back swing phenomenon. I am now using a shorter back swing but I added about a club distance to each club because my backswing is faster. Now I’m just finding videos that agree with this theory😂
The key is keeping the right hip back on the downswing with a full body release.
For sure this helps! Otherwise easy to come slightly over the top
How come they don't teach to have the elbow "fly" like a baseball swing? I can swing about 3-5% faster using this method and it's more comfortable. John Daly swings like this. I'm surprised the long drive guys don't. Maybe it has accuracy or launch issues that negates the speed or something. I'll try it on the course when I play next or with the simulator this weekend.
Think it causes a cupped wrist at the top and needs more manipulation on the way down. It can work but takes more timing/practice
Let us know how it goes
@@nicholasdemetriades9154 Yes, it also promotes the shaft pointing over the target line instead of parallel, which scared me off before, though the snapping of the flying elbow down shallows the plane and gives you some free speed. Looks like Freddie Couples swing. I'll test it on the course.
@@gzman1 I tried my "baseball" or Freddie Couples style swing and a backswing using the scapula glide method, which I first heard about with Rotary Golf, but this is the person that taught that guy the method. I couldn't believe it but my ball striking was so much better doing this even though I never had a lesson and just watched 2 videos. My 2nd game on the simulator I did that style for all but 3 holes. The first simulator match we played the same course as the Waste Management Phoenix Open and I played the first nine with my baseball swing and the back nine with the Scapula Glide backswing, nothing else. I did about 4 strokes better on the back nine, which shocked me. I got an 89 which is about average for me, then I shot a 81 the second game using the Scapula glide trick on all but 3 holes. I would have broken 80 had I used it the whole time. My best ever is a 77 but I had 3 birdies that time and no birdies today. I'm hooked with the Scapula Glide method to bring the club back.
Got a link?
Another way to think about it is something Drew said on another BBG video: by moving aggressively on the backswing, you stretch all the relevant muscles and make them ready to snap back, adding what he called "free speed." A quiet backswing won't do that.
Any updates on this dude ? Great video
Thanks Ned, I haven’t heard from him in a while. He did say I pronounced his name wrong sounds like “Skylar”
I wider how he is doing.
Is there a reason that it looks like you’re just trying to heave the ball as far as possible, but when Drew does it, he looks like he’s just trying to swing it? I’d have to imagine tossing the ball with his rocking motion and arm swing correlates much better to an actual swing than just loading up and heaving it…
That’s the glaring difference to my untrained eye.
Drews clubhead speed is faster than my ball speed lol
its skylar
Your brain is THE MOST important tool in the bag. Swing changes will happen quickly if you change your thoughts. They will take forever and you will revert back if you don't!
Bryson says he pulls backswing violently, and downswing violently. Pull, Pull are his primary swing thoughts.
Isn’t this what you learned in Kansas with the golf training guy???
Impressive as it is...it does look more than a longdriver swing than something you would do on the course....but i guess this vid is about pure ballspeed increase ?