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- Is there enough warm weather left to grow a fall crop of tomatoes? We've got some nice looking tomato plants and we think it's worth a try! Join us as we show you how we plant tomatoes in a raised for our little fall tomato experiment!
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I am a New Jersey gardener, but I watch a lot of southern US gardeners on ytube. Y'all got me using terms like, maters, taters, and okree. I am however in southern NJ.
Hey, its Skippy over here in Bama. I planted my fall maters a couple of weeks ago. Don't ask me how many, I only have 10 fingers and you always like to point out that we are not good with advanced math.
If mother nature cooperates, you'll have success but as you explained there is a lot to go wrong. My experience is about 50/50 but you're further south so your odds will be better.
The main reason I try every year is my 89 year old father loves nothing more than a tomato right off the vine. In his opinion, if you only get one tomato it was worth it.
I agree with your father completely
You father is correct.
Trav, I really liked the red snapper and BHN gold tomatoes I got from you over the winter. Ya know, the more I eat yellow or purple tomatoes, I think I enjoy them more than the red ones!
You are absolutely right about the different Falls that happen in Georgia! Not to mention the Late Summer, the Indian Summer and the Grasshopper Apocalypse....
Travis, we grew Fall tomatoes last year in 10 gallon grow bags. We're in SE Texas zone 9a... Got an early cold snap, so moved them into our greenhouse to protect them... Had Celebrity+ and Roadster... Worked like a champ.. Have transplants that are about a week or two behind yours, but plan to do it all again.
Good luck with yours!
We're in Ventura, California and started two more tomatoes...determinate and an indeterminate. They were "accidents". I feel your experiment's going to be a success! Love your videos.
You are cracking me up with the “psych fall” and “fake fall” 😂
I can remember one Thanksgiving it was about 80+ degrees. Never underestimate how difficult it is for summer to just go away in the South!
I’m in southeast Tx and we almost always eat Thanksgiving meal outside.
Hello from Houston Tx! Your description of the many occurrences of fall had me in stitches; Houston is much the same! Additionally, we semi-often get a "false winter" in late October, where the temps drop into the low 40's or below for a night or two before it warms back up to the 70s plus. Obviously tomatoes do not like this!
What I did last year - to great success - was to take incandescent Christmas lights and wind them around my tomatoes (around the base and woven through the foliage). They must be incandescent; LEDs won't work for this. I then took a frost blanket and draped it around and over the tomatoes, sealing up all sides and the top. My tomatoes last fall survived several nights in the low to mid 30's using this method! They were ugly but still producing yummy fruits all the way until mid January when we got that arctic blast.
I would say you have a >80% chance of success if you can protect them from the cold.
Another thing I have found works well for fall is using varieties that have very low days to maturity (45-60 days). That way you start to get a crop much earlier, before the day lengths get short and when the warmth is still giving the plants a boost (last fall I got my first tomato about 30 days from a normal sized transplant, but Yellow Patio Choice is insanely quick (and also delicious)). I'm trying bush early girl for the first time this fall. I am also trying some varieties with middling days to maturity, including roadster and the BHN 871G which I am super excited about! I started planting mine out under shade cloth last night and will continue through the next few evenings.
Here in Texas, fall tomatoes are a myth. Too hot to start!
I’m in N Texas in a similar climate and we have almost an identical setup with Shelby paste tomatoes I put in the ground about ten days ago. As always we lost about 90% of our tomatoes in July due to heat. I shaded some Mountain Vineyard grape tomatoes and all five plants are still alive.
Travis, I got some of your Dwarf Cowhorn okra last winter and planted about 8 plants in the spring. This stuff is easily the most energetic and prolific okra I’ve ever grown! Next spring I’m going to go with 4-5’ spacing between plants and rows.
I put in fall tomatoes here in southern Maryland. Some cherry they are knee high and flowering. Everyone around here thinks im crazy saying you got to start them early!
I’ve grown fall tomatoes successfully for the last 50 years in and around San Antonio. Usually plant transplants about last week of July.
OMG. Hey Bill....been a minute....looks like we watch the same channel here. I've got celebrities and Arkansas traveler in the ground....but I've moved further north than you. Live the fall tomato season the best.... enjoy it!
@@KariWhitakerRealtor where you are now? Been a long time.
@@KariWhitakerRealtor phoenix, tycoon and ruby crush here. Fall is my favorite garden time.
@billmillikin3292 cattle ranching an hour east of Waco since 2020.....we had our annual rainfall by May 1st this year..so spring garden a bust so I need these fall ones to happen!
@@KariWhitakerRealtor cattle my first love! What kind?
I’m a bit south of you in zone 10 FL. I’ve been growing fall tomatoes for years, and if we get a frost, I just cover them. It only delays harvest…instead of Dec, it’s Jan. You may be more successful than you think!
My seedling tomatoes are setting second set of true leaves. Tomatoes do best here in the south of Texas in the fall. Our first frost is December 15 at the very earliest. Usually it is around Christmas. So I think I am good. I think your tomatoes will do great!!
I think Travis you will get tomatoes about the end of October.
I am several hundred miles south of you and I have about 100 tomato starts. They are a variety called Empire. Germination was not as robust as I had hoped for I got around 50 %. They are a determinate hybrid of celebrity but are supposed to provide more leaf coverage to prevent sun scald. I am shooting to have them in soil by September 15th. I am looking for a harvest somewhere close to Thanksgiving.
Hi Travis. Another way to get fall tomatoes is to plant some patio tomatoes in hanging pots you can move into your greenhouse when it gets to cold. There is also
more cold hardy types avaliable. John S.
I think your chances of success are really good. I’m doing the same thing only I’m about 2 weeks behind you. My baby plants aren’t ready yet. I’m in Southern California zone 10a. I think my chances are really good also.
I'm in southeast VA in 7b/8a (depending on the year) and I have had success with Cherokee Purple (indeterminate) and Roma (determinate) in the fall garden... Arkansas Traveler and Paul Robesons have not been worth the effort. For the Roma's I plant a late batch of seeds because you can't take a "crotch sample" cutting and have it produce tomatoes later in the season. Even though it's an entirely new plant, it will produce all at once and die back at the same time the mother plant does. But, you can successfully plant a second crop of late starts. The indeterminate varieties will produce a second crop easily from a cutting and will produce right up until I get a first frost... even if temps dip below 40°F for a few days. They seem to like the cooler temps and fewer pests. I also plant in the shade of a large tree, but I plant them much earlier than this. Mid to late July is when my second crop goes in the ground. By planting them in the shade I don't have any issues with late blight. Plus they have the benefit of freshly fertilized soil which really sets them to vigorously root and grow. Another thing I noticed is that by not planting 2/3rds of the plant to form roots..I only plant about 1/3 of the plant... they don't lag behind or get stunted. So I get fruit sooner and I've only noticed benefits in switching my strategy. Hope this helps someone!
We've had a terrible Tomato summer, but being positive, your tomatoes are going to do great, and mine are too. 20-25 seeds of early girls because they have the shortest days to harvest of all the seeds I had
I’m in Texas and we don’t have Fall, we got Hot and Cold.
Travis you hit the nail on the head with the description of the phases of Fall. Being in Florida I really appreciate the very accurate observation. Go Gators
Jeff from East Tennessee. Planted my last late tomatoes on July 4th. You could maybe hold off to July 15th but pushing your luck! Now I planted some big cucumbers plants on Aug. 19th. Not sure if I will get anything.
Now just working on fall transplants. It’s getting hot again and I did buy some shade cloth. Will see how it works.
I think you'll get a lot of tomatoes, but you'll end up having a lot of tomatoes that stay green a long time because of low temps and low sun hours. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Fried green tomatoes are one of my favorite ways to eat tomatoes and there's also green salsa. I planted Juliet and another one called Geranium Kiss which is a small plant for pots. Juliets are 55 days and Geranium Kiss are 65, but I can bring them into the garage in the event of cold weather. Good luck Travis. This will be interesting. (Central Texas 9a, formerly 8b)
I hope the produce for you!
Worst case scenario: you get to eat fried green tomatoes around Thanksgiving! 😁
Lol!!!! Psych Fall, Fale Fall, re-Fall and Fall… 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am in Antigua 🇦🇬 and can grow year round. I am trying Red Snapper tomato for the first time. Even though we are in hurricane season until early November, I live in the driest part of the island and should hopefully not be plagued with too many diseases. Wish me luck.
By the way we have those same fake falls here in CA. The summer unfortunately is never fake. The oven is back on 105 tomorrow after 2 weeks of low 90s and 60s night. My tomatoes just stop producing with these triple digits. I've tried heat tolerant varieties too. No good. I got mine in late this year so just when they were going to set it got in the 110s. Now all huge bushes but very little tomato. This two week respite had them starting to set again but not now.
I’m thinking not only day length, but also colder nights will slow them down as well, but I’m anxious to see how your experiment works out
Danny King South Mississippi had tomatoes all winter in an un heated green house. They were still alive the next spring growing season.
That's what I do to my pepper plants, put them I'm grow bags from the ground I'll have peppers early spring.
I think they will make some good fried green tomatoes. At least that has been my experience in SE Texas zone 9a. They just seem to never want to ripen, stay green much longer than in the spring. And I have planted in mid to late July. Hope I am wrong, will be fun to see if the make it.
I've harvested tomatoes until 1st frost. So you should be good
Good morning yep it’s a guessing game here in NC also one year this cool weather started so I went ahead and got things into the ground then it turned back to 90-95% lesson learned good luck
So glad you are doing this!
We’re both in zone 9a (I’m on Gulf Coast of AL). I did this last year and had no issues. I actually finally had to end my tomato growing in mid-December just to get a break before spring planting.
I'm testing out some fall cherry tomatoes here in North Texas. Put them in early August under some shade cloth so they don't fry in 100 degrees. Thought I might have a better chance with a cherry tomato vs a slicer.
100% on your tomatoes 👍👍
I think a shorter day variety would work better. Of course it depends on this coming fall. Choosing a Seminis with better cool/cold tolerance rather than a Sakata bred for southern heat would increase your odds at least some. By the time you get flowers and fruit set it will be well past psych Fall, and the heat will be gone. I grow Early Girl {New Girl} and always have good luck. Keep your frost cloth handy for the end. Good luck. 75% chance of ripe tomatoes for Thanksgiving.
I had tomatoes that last to fall . When it cooled off. They started producing tomatoes . But they only got the size of a large marble by frost. I'm in zone 8A.
I'm betting 100%!! I'm rooting for your tomato seedlings and for you getting some good tasting fall tomatoes. I'm in 9b and putting my seedlings (started mid-July) in ground next week. I'm experimenting with a couple of determinates with different maturity dates. Fingers crossed for us both.
Normally It works well in Tennessee, we just have to start earlier. We can get our first frost around 15th of October, but Tennessee weather has large mood swings!
If you can throw a cover over to keep the evening chill off, I think you're on to something.
I picked my 9th green bean off of the pole plants this year. Our 100F+ temps have destroyed production. Today we hit a high of 77F. Maybe we'll get more fruit set.
I planted some roadster tomato seeds a few weeks ago. They aren't much taller than your transplant, but they have been outside. I'm curious about what will happen.
I’m anious to see how this works out
50 % chance . Sometimes we can get frost 12-15th of November but some years later . Even if no frost nights can still be down in the high 30s and 40s in November. It’ll be interesting to see the experiment. I planted a few in late July but they haven’t done great with the heat and no rain .
I successfully grow fall tomatoes back on 2020 and 2022, firs time i got a lot ripen before frost took them out here in Sacramento Ca, timing matter a lot when planting i fall. So i follow my 2020 schedule and transplant August 8/9 back then i put them in 8/20 so a bit early this time around and i got an open field lot with almost full day sun ☀️ i mean from sunrise to sunset, so im hoping for a good crop, roma type, tachi, shelby, and slicers roadster, red snapper, and hossinators. Since I plant a bit earlier I tackle a few heirlooms and some indeterminate hybrid which are already setting fruits on a 18" plants. They might have enough time to ripen before November and when you do yur update middle October i will follow with mine. Good luck
You should ! I grow a dozen plants every fall here in Louisiana ! I do plant them as deep as I can. ! I’m looking for so Louisiana shallots ??? Can you help me??
I think you’re going to have a great harvest. I’ve had tomatoes growing into November in Southern Indiana so I’m sure you can grow them even longer.
Psych Fall, Fake Fall - you're killin' me! Too funny 😂 I'm betting on you enjoying some tomatoes with your okra - yes, shorter & cooler days, sun's tragectory - that will affect growth - but far less stress. Have fun with it. I put in just 6 tomato plants for fall . Definitely less harsh sun already; wow, it's August, it should be hotter in my zone 8b - Virginia Beach, VA. 😊
I’m gonna say as long as you don’t get an early frost you will get tomatoes. Last year we had a frost around Halloween. I was less than 2 weeks from a massive harvest.
90%
did the purple tomatoes get pulled? I think the plants will grow small and make small tomatoes that take a very long time to ripen, but my tomatoes have proven themselves more cold hardy then expected on a few occasions and I believe you can make it work if and that's a big if old man winter stays quiet for ya. I think in ground would have a better chance as retains heat longer then the raised beds do. I always enjoy your experiments, thanks for sharing with us.
YUP I forgot about THEE Illustrious Purple Tomatoes!
Yeah I pulled them a while back.
It's interesting that I also decided to try some fall tomatoes for the first time this year. I am just doing two plants. One is about 30 inches tall, so far, and the other is about 18 inches. I am trying to avoid the summer heat when flowers tend to drop
Being in southern California I am hoping it will be successful because our mild frosts don't appear until December
On the Florida weave a neighbor gave me a bundle of bailing twine. It seems harder to do the weave with that than the string that you use. Should I not use the twine and start using something else. Just asking thank you and be honest about your opinion it’s not going to hurt my feelings at all. Have a great day and good luck with the tomatoes
Picked a big batch of Zebrange peppers today that are still on the yellow side to pickle.
I would give you a 75% chance. Good luck. My tomatoes are starting to grow and bloom again now that it is cooling off here in Oregon. My tomatoes are indeterminate, so unless I get a frost I will get more tomatoes. I hope we both do.
80%
I hate that psyc-fall. Just as soon have it stay hot than to get my hopes up.
My summer tomatoes did absolutely nothing! 😂 My fall plants are in the ground and looking good.
I think you have a very good chance of getting tomatoes before frost takes them out. If you want some throughout the winter wrap your largest green tomatoes individually in news paper, put them in a cardboard box in a closet or under a bed and pull them out a few days before you want to eat them unwrap , set on the counter or in a window and viola you have delicious tomatoes. People in my area have been doing that for many yrs. They buy a case of greens from Padgett farms and do the above.
68%
Even if you don't get a big crop momma can make a lot of chowchow for winter relish and fried green maters for dinner.
I have some of the prettiest tomatoes in the fall. They just won't get red on the vine.
I'm putting in my call at 65%
For the last two years I always plant my tomatoes at the end of September. I had an absolutely stunning harvest both years! Day length did not affect them at all! Matter of fact the plants all lived until spring. I’m in zone 10a but besides that day length had no affect on the maters! You will have cold to deal with though! I would save some of the tomatoes for pots and put them in your green house. You should be able to get them through the winter.
I surely hope not I have a 100 seedlings to go into the ground. I want to get them into the ground by Sept 15.
I say 85%. I planted mine last week
Also I am in central Alabama
I say 50/50 chance depending on weather. I'd feel better if you were using a determinate with a 65 or so days to maturity instead of 75 days. That's what I used last year to get my first successful fall harvest on anything not a cherry tomato. Them short fall days really do slow things down. I'd push them tomato plants hard early on to get them established quickly.
What’s a kill root? 😀oh btw my Hungarian Heart tomatoes weighed close to 2 lbs alot of them starting at half a lb seeds from Baker Creek. Used Agrothrive to get them started. Very thick stems. So thanks for that tip. They are pretty sweet for canning and veey productive in zone 7b.
He was saying kale roots. Sometimes those of us from the south can be hard to understand. 😁
50% chance. I think if they had gotten into the ground near Aug 1st. You would be near 90%
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90% I believe in you. 😂❤
I think you will get nice tomatoes, but they will probably be a little bit smaller than those varieties are when started in the spring due to the shorter daylight hours. In the spring, they start in shorter hours and fruit out after we hit summer (usually). So you are doing the opposite. Should still be good eating though!
Yo this Trav from DC not tryna be pessimistic but I'm guessing alot of green "maters" for u this fall hope I'm wrong
80/20 rule. 80% in your favor. If you see they're really cranking 'em out, might try greenhouse covers for extending into Jan. It's been done before w/ Celebrity. Keeping soil warm is the main thing so in raised beds like you've got, shd be very doable. I've seen bubble wrap around beds for xtra cold protection.
Farmers almanac is saying the winter won't be as bad as the last 3 years
Lazy Dog Farm, Dude, you're killing it! Let's collab and make magic.
It all depends on when you get your first frost this year. I'd guess 75% chance of success.
Are you late on okra this year or normal? 8A here planted June 15th. Been picking a couple weeks.
I think there’s 100% chance on tomatoes, might not set as heavy as your spring maters. Plus a lot of greens ones come first frost. I planted new Bella Rosa’s in mid July. All blooming with few setting.
Yes, very late on okra this year.
I noticed you are using the odd looking bright colored plastic seed trays. On your video last year about onions you said you didn't like them and would stay with the tried and true 10x20s. Have you changed your mind about them?
What are my chances?
Not good.
You mean like not good 1 out of 100?
I'd say, more like 1 in 1,000,000
So you're telling me there's a chance?..... Yeah!
30%
Day length will play no role
I think u will grow a great crop of tomatoes
i am going to say 90%
Buckets….moved to new high tunnel?????
I have 5 ft beefsteak they have blossoms but no fruit..smh.