Helter Skelter - Charles Manson and the LaBianca Murders | Visiting the Graves
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- Join us as we visit the home of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca who were murdered by the Manson Family in 1969. And then we head over to Calvary Cemetery to visit the final resting place of Leno LaBianca.
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I just wanted to thank you for visiting Mr LaBianca’s gravesite. It matters.
So often the forgotten victims.
I'm glad you care Sara Smile. WWJD ✝
I never knew they were located so near to my family member's gravesites. Have to go visit them next time I am in LA.
The LaBiancas we're coming back from what I believe was a weekend trip with their boat. They stopped at a gas station and bought a newspaper and were discussing the Tate murders of several days before with the clerk. Terrifying and sad to think that a few hours later they themselves would be victims of the same.
Yes! How awfull this is poor poor PEOPLE 😭😭
But still i belief in KARMA !!!😱😱
@@elsmeervd4893 unfortunately, shithead Manson died in prison at something like 82. I wish I believed in hell but I just don't. He got to live and so did the others while Sharon Tate and her baby and all the others have been in the ground for over 50 years. An immeasurable injustice. They should have all been executed 50 years ago. If anyone had ever done that to any of my loved ones, they would hope they'd better stay in prison because I would use my last breath making sure they never did it to anyone else.
The Tate murders were the day before the Labianca murders.
@@juliewessels4045. Right you are
Yes, that house to the right of the Labianca's is Harold Trues former house and is the one that Manson previously partied at.
The original news footage from August 1969 gives your video an ominous feeling.......
Hard to believe no other inmates never took charlie boy out was he in protective custody all those years
That is so respectful that you covered them. Thank you for giving ALL victims a voice. 🙏❤️🕊️
People can just see the video rather than coming in and bothering people that live in the neighborhood.
Sharon Tate ♡♡♡ Forever remembered. Rest in peace and to all the other victims.
WWJD ✝
@@nicholasshade stop repeating the same thing
@@awesomeheat2569 I just got up and looked at my phone and re-saw your comment. My dog was digging through the trash, and Extra was on. I was thinking about what I should say here. I came up with this. Don't tell me how to comment. I'll comment how I want.💛
RIP GRANDPA....FOREVER MISSED
✝️🙏🏽🛐
I love how respectful you two are of the departed and the amazing content that you are putting out.
That prayer bench is a kneeler bench I believe.
WWJD ✝
'thankyou for your respect of all it is so fun. Let's have a good one in 2022!
I know you guys love spooky stuff, but I have to tell you that I love love love that you have so much respect for the dead. You make the deaths of people who have died either tragically or mysteriously interesting without being crass. I really look forward to your videos.
Spot on...yes;!
This happened before I was born but every summer, they seem to air a doc on the Manson murders and the LaBianca's get very little coverage. I think it's sad, they were brutally murdered in their home by those psychopaths and they get forgotten about . It's horrible what happened to all of the victims but I always felt no one really paid any attention to Rosemary and Leno , they lived a quieter life and weren't famous so they get a little blerb and that's it. So sad to me. Thanks for including them and not making it a 2 second thing.
They're always mentioned along with the Tate murders when people cover the story, so not sure why you say they're forgotten. I'm sure that when people try to go to the Cielo house, they go to this one right after. If not, they wouldn't have changed the grounds so much.
I just got up. My dog was digging through the trash. My back kitchen door was wide open, and now I can't sleep. I also had to comment on some rude comment made to me. I have to bring some wood into the house now. I'll probably find something on here to watch.💛
@@nicholasshade your dog would let u know if someone was in the house, I would hope
@@kimwarner1681 yeah. My dog actually has some behavior problems, but he would definitely let me know if someone was here that didn't belong here. Love and light from Gore, Oklahoma.❤💡💛
I think they got their fair due. The murders came to be known as the Tate-LaBianca murders. It’s Steven Earl Parent, the 18 year old who was the first victim shot in his car on Cielo that tends to be forgotten. He and Gary Hinman, and Shorty Shea, who were each killed by the Family in completely separate incidents.
I'm glad that Zak wasn't able to do anything with the LaBianca house. That family and that community really have been through the most difficult circumstances.
The LaBianca driveway looks like the one next to Rick Dalton's house in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.
I don’t know whether this is sarcasm or not? Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was based off of The Labianca/Tate murders
@@hunterlandrews I was saying the filming locations look similar to the real murder locations.
Kind of weird that your parting shot of the house has a crow cawing and flying over the house. These murders had the city of Los Angeles in absolute terror in late summer 69'. It definitely shows the fragile nature of life and the strange power that one demented mind can have to "control" the actions of others. Awesome video. You never disappoint your legion of Grimmlifers with these informative, yet somehow macabre segments. Creepy! We love it! Keep them coming, we can't wait for the next one!
They were kids eager to follow, and the drug use helped a bit with Manson's scheme.
Great archival footage as well as current day shots... nothing creepier than this case
In 1968 Harrold True lived next door to the LaBianca's and Manson and the girls were staying there at one time before Spawn Ranch. They partied all the time with loud music and one night the LaBianca's called the police on them. The police came and told them to turn it down, and Manson remembered that the night in 1969 when they were all driving around looking for a house...
It would be so eerie and uncomfortable to live in a house where something so tragic took place. If Zak Bagans bought that place for the reason mentioned then he is really odd and disrespectful as he aimed to exploit this tragedy. Good on the residents for telling him where to go.
That's what Zak does for a living though
Unbelievable that that guy wanted to turn the LaBianca's house into a museum, basically looking to make money off their hides. How incredibly crass and disrespectful, not to mention inconsiderate of the neighbors. No wonder they were up in arms.
I think Axl Rose wanted to do the same thing with Cielo Drive when Trent Reznor moved out.
- I think, not saying for sure.....
@@josephrivett7378 Can't speak for Axl either, but I do know that Sharon Tate's sister Patti actually confronted Reznor while he was still there. He had the nerve to name his Tate house studio "Le Pig," after the word "Pig" which had been scrawled on the front door in Sharon's blood by one of her killers. "Are you exploiting my sister's death by living in her house?" Patti demanded. Though Reznor initially denied it, he later admitted that right there, Patti deflated his rationalizations and made him think. Good for her, for bringing about a change of heart in Trent Reznor.
Lol cry
@@guydreamr After Reznor had the house razed, he took the front door with him to New Orleans and put it on the front of an existing Magazine Street funeral home which he converted into his new recording studio.
@@paulvoorhies8821 My understanding is that Reznor was renting the house, so how could he have it razed? That would ordinarily be the landlord's decision. I did hear though that he took the door with him when he vacated the premises. Also, I don't know exactly when during this sequence of events the confrontation with Tate's sister occurred.
Damn I used to do plumbing for the house back in the early 2000s. I remember my boss mentioning that and always felt uneasy there
I do love how respectful you guys are. I'm also glad the community shut Zacks big ideas down . I have nothing against Zack or ghost hunters I just don't think a place where two innocent people lost their lives should put money in someone's pocket .love you guys 💜💜💜💜
what was zack planning on doing with this house?
Imagine living there and having an opportunist wanting to turn your neighborhood into a circus. SMH
Ghost Adventures
Ghost Hunters were the sad looking older guys
My father in law was riding his motorcycle through Box Canyon in 1969 and saw about 3 girls walking up towards the 118 highway (before the fwy was built). A few months later, they were on the news.
Life is so strange. No more than a fleeting dream. And then no more. Gone like a puff of smoke
Great video. I clearly remember when the Manson murders took place. My mother and I were fascinated, and we found the gate to the house on Cielo Drive, where Sharon Tate and the others were murdered. I can't remember whether we looked for or found the LaBianca house, but I can't imagine we wouldn't have.
Of course, with no GPS back then, we had to follow paper maps to get where we were going!
Thanks for the respectful videos!
I use to live at 3901 Los Feliz in the mid 80's, when I told friends how close I lived to the LaBianca's, most everyone wanted to go have a look. My late Mom when she came to visit, had no interest. The convent next door is prime real estate and Katy Perry tried to buy it 5-7 yrs ago, there was a dispute over who owned it and the sale didn't go through. Great job using old photos to show what it looked like at the time of the murders. They changed the house number after the murders, it was 3301, changed to 3311, not sure what yr they changed it?
Great job, once again! Those roofs are called Spanish Style roofs.
The crow cawing and flying by, youza!
These people need their own TV show. Super informative and incredibly respectful of victims.
A show on Shudder would be cool
CZcams is better than TV.
They are called Portable Kneeling Benches, Personal Prayer Kneelers or even Abby Kneelers & you can buy them online, even from Amazon.
Some churches have them (made of the same materials as their church pews) if also have a mausoleums or crypt to allow patrons & members to use them to pray to loved ones while visiting the interred.
mausoleums,
You are right about the party house. The wall you mentioned is where Mr LaBianca parked his car that night. The monetary was a residence for Nuns. Katie Perry tried to buy it not long ago
Monks use it now. No nuns.
Im glad they didnt issue permits to Bagans for this. Im a geek for this stuff too, but as you say the neighbors dont need a circus everyday. I believe your right about the 3rd house being the one that was occupied by a Harold True, whom the LaBiancas had complained in the past about "pot parties" being held (and raided) right next door. I really hope this is not a tear down, and whoever buys it loves it and is happy there, despite its dark history. I think bad things happen everywhere, we just dont always hear of them. Thanks for another awesome video. I love your material! : )
So fascinating. I could never live in a house that had such a violent crime happen. I'm weird because I believe buildings, even land...trees...absorb energy. Not enough sage in the world. 😆
I remember seeing Helter skelter, the remade version.. that scene with the poor LaBiancas.. I couldn't check my doors enough to make sure they were locked!! RIP to all of Manson's innocent victims..
What a good video and very informative, I never new the Manson family carried out more murders so was very interesting to watch.
Thanks from Australia 👍
In my 12 years of catholic school we just called them “kneelers”.
In the Church of England, we call them kneelers as well, mainly used in church when knelt in prayer
My mom used to drive past this house every day. She saw all the cops there and just wondered until the 6 o'clock news what happened there. We lived about 2 miles away from this house. My sister closed up our house at night in the summertime. We didn't have AC just fans to draw up the cool air to the second floor and the heat out. Our house was an oven in August because of the Mansion family.
Wow what a memory!!
I Love the Silence in the cemeteries.... My loved ones are spread all over in Southern California and when I visit them it’s just so calming... God Bless the Souls of All these Beautiful People and May they All Rest Peacefully 🙏🏻♥️
The echo underground added a great spooky element and i was also waiting for a silver ball to come down the hallway or a really tall man to sneak up on you !! great info thanks for the video !!
How about doing one on the Mama Cass house! I think it was Dan Akroid who lived there later and he said it was crazy haunted!!!
Beverly DeAngelo bought it from Dan Ackroyd - she still lives there and says it haunted by MaMa Cass
@@melissacoleman3804 I would love for them to check it out!
We just did a video on it about a week ago....Ghostbusters Filming Locations in LA
@@melissacoleman3804 Mama Cass is haunting the house looking for something to eat😋🍖🍗🍝🍔🌭🍟🍣🍡🌯
@@grimmlifecollective How did I miss that? going to watch it now!!!
Thanks for this story.
What a beautiful cemetery. Thank you for sharing & being respectful.
Thanks for letting us tag along.
Grimm for Life!
I used to be Catholic. We always just called that thing a kneeler, but the fancy name for them is prie-dieu.
Thanks for the info. WWJD ✝
You're a mesmerizing storyteller
I wish I would've Known about this video sooner. I could have sent you pics to add to this video. I worked on the house some years ago but I can't say why. But I took a dozen pics/videos while on the property. still enjoyed watching and reminiscing of my time working at this house with its morbid history.
Look forward to each and every upload. Always interested in anything Manson related. Jay Sebring's funeral was held at the cemetery you visited about a month ago when paying your respect to James Stewart. Thanks for taking me along with you.
I love true crime, great video. Nothing much is creepier than Manson
I think The Nightstalker Richard Ramirez was worse. Both were insane lunatics though.
I WAS JUST A YOUNG GIRL WHEN THIS HAPPENED , I REMEMBER HOW HORRIFIC THIS WAS YEARS AND YEARS LATER AS I GOT INTO MY TEEN YEARS , HORRIFIC BLOOD BATH , MAY THEY ALL RIP AND MAY THE PERPETUAL LIGHT SHINE UPON THEIR FACES 😥💔🙏🕊
I wish they never destroyed the Tate home.
It’s pretty likely the La Bianca house will be too. Unfortunately
@Tim Mentzer those who lived there said it was more like a funeral home more than a scary mansion or something.
I wouldn’t want to live in a house where that happened. Or even the property. A new house on the same plot won’t mean squat to me. No thanks.
Zak bagans bought this house
@@Zephr238 He's selling or has sold. Permits kept getting denied to what he wanted to do with it.
The thing Jessica is kneeling on at the end is kneeling bench for praying, you heathens!
This was a fun one. The kneeler is what Jessica was kneeling on.
The LAPD didn’t connect the Tate-LaBianca murders, but Sam Donaldson did.😂
They didn´t connect them? That is strange, indeed.
They wrote "Death to pigs" in blood, on the door at LaBianca´s home and "Pigs" at the front door at the Polanski-Tate´s house. That should have been a clue.
I love the name and # of the La Bianca's address. 3311 Waverly Drive. WWJD ✝
@@nicholasshade I love the name of the street of Sharon Tate's house Cielo Dr
@@JULIOHERNANDEZ-cy7sq me too. Thanks for commenting after my reply. Love and light from Gore, Oklahoma. WWJD ✝
A news crew found the bloody clothes.
And the firearm was found by a young boy. His father had turned it in to the cops. A few weeks after the crimes.
He called Bugliosi when watching the news about them catching the murderers to say the police had the firearm
Back then police depts were all separate and very competitive. They didn’t share cases or information like today. Computers and Son of Sam helped make it much easier for them to share..
The piece of furniture in the mausoleum is called a "prie dieu" or more simply, a "kneeler".
Live in England, just found yr channel..... LOVE IT, think you come acroos really well. I'll be watching more.
My uncle was born in 1951, when he was 17 in 1968, he hitchhiked from San Diego to LA. He was about 6’3 and 200 pounds of pure muscle at that age too. He ended up at “SPAHN RANCH” and had no idea of the shady inhabitants. He had hitchhiked there with his guitar and he told me that in order to “stay a few days”, “Charlie” wanted his guitar. He said he saw all the freaks, Tex, Squeaky, Linda, all of them. Then he said Manson took his guitar. He said Manson was a little coward, small, weak, but the whole place was covered with guns. You couldn’t do much about it without getting shot. He ended up getting his guitar back from Manson and left after a few days. Then about a year later, he saw that Manson had committed the murders.
During the early ‘70s, my uncle would go on to be a pretty tough dude. He was a Hell’s Angel during those years until he got into a pretty horrific motorcycle crash and got out of it. He could have beaten Charles Manson to death at 17, I promise you that. My Uncle is also extremely intelligent, smarter than Manson.
So it was Manson’s control of young, drug addicted, down and out, highly impressionable teenagers that gave him his power. He spun stories of magnificent bullshit and those kids ate it up.
It’s a cautionary tale for sure.
Great video.
Manson saw that kids were eager to follow "gurus" in that time, his ego latched onto getting some followers for himself that he could manipulate.
@@treetopjones737 Yup.
Very true about the “gurus” of that time.
My uncle said he really was a little weasel but also like he said, he controlled all of his followers with terrific tales of bullshit and drugs.
Manson was no dummy but he’s hardly the genius he made himself out to be. Good con man for sure. Intelligent, yes. Genius, no.
I know this is an older post from a few months ago, but I was 11 years old in the year 1969. At that time my parents would take one month of each summer to go camping, and I can tell you the hippy movement was alive and well for sure. Not only that but I saw for myself at least a few instances of one guy camping with several young women, who all seemed to idolize him. Very much like the Manson girls. And in each case the guy had long hair and at least some facial hair as well. It just seemed to be a common theme during that time.
I still hate all the Mansons. I was 14 when the murders happened and being a Hollywood freak even at that age who used to live in Southern California, I was enamored of the case from the very beginning. I started a scrapbook from the day after the murders till the end of the trial that I wish I still had but I tossed it years ago. I never had any confusion about who the villains were, that may sound strange but Manson quickly became a cult figure who was admired by many, unbelievably. I've seen pretty much everything Manson but stopped watching it quite some time ago because it's just too depressing, but I like your output so wanted to see this. So tragic that Sharon Tate and the others, including her baby, have been in their graves for over 50 years while most of the culprits still breathe. They should have been Zapped.⚡⚡⚡
Strange question but do you have a son named Lou?
@@alexmullen27 nope!
Exactly.
Barrel tile roof. Beautiful classic Spanish style house
It was the house directly east, 3267 waverly. Manson walked up the curved drive, and cut across the lawn to the LaBiancas
The property behind the wall was a convent, not a monastery. Katy Perry tried to buy it at one point
It is now a monastery.
Absolutely loved this video! Thank you for all you guys do. & I love how respectful you guys are, you go about all things the right way & it’s very commendable & honorable. Doesn’t go unnoticed!
I wish I could travel back in time & cross paths with these people in a safe way, maybe as a fly on the wall lol already knowing what I know now. Just to witness how they acted, the things they did on that farm, the way they spoke to each other & did things would have been crazy to witness. I’m just so curious how these women acted around Manson & how they all were back then.
I kinda just wanna witness the 60’s period Lol
WOW amazing and your always on point .
Much love from Huntington WV 🙏❤️😳🥰
It’s called a Praydo , I had a friend in the Seminary.
So sad for the LaBianca family that their grand daugher was also recently murdered.
Those stained glass windows are beautiful
I've definitely become a fan of this channel in the past few days. Great content, and looks like your subscriber number is growing bigly as well. Thanks!
Hard to let this one go. it still creeps me out.
I love how much you love each other; it’s very obvious. Great content xxxx
Rather coincidental that a crow/raven flies over the LaBianca house with a squawk as you make your closing statement. I appreciate how respectful you are at the properties and gravesites.
I've been obsessed with this case for so many years 💐🙏
So incredibly sad. I hope NONE of the Manson clan ever get out...the ones who passed are no longer a threat. Awful. Rest in peace 🙏
I love the way you compare pictures to what it is now!
Again another awesome video guys. I find it pretty sad that the husband doesn't have is wife resting next to him. Also u guys heard voices down below but no one was there??? Truly creepy 👻👻
Leno LaBianca was previously married to a different woman, so maybe it's her tomb next to his? A lot of couples buy plots together when they're married, but sometimes forget to or don't bother to rearrange their funeral arrangements after getting divorced.
It may have been Manson say "hi' from .....below. 😨
That might be where matinance is done and could have been workers or maybe sprites, it's possible.
I never feel alone in a cemetery. Only once I felt uneasy and looking behind some tombstones there were beheaded chickens so weird stuff was done there.
In the children's section I got a very faint EVP warning of; " No drink Rucker food place water."
I was visiting a fellow soldier at Fort Rucker, Al. at the time and we were going to eat at the mess hall after leaving the cemetery. I refused to eat at the mess hall and we ate at MacDonald's.
STRANGE BUT TRUE. Someone had put dead birds in the water tank and many soldiers got really sick I don't remember if some died.
We went back and thanked the little children's sprites and left them some toys. This was 1974 - 75 ish or so, not sure.
Correct about 3267 Waverly Drive! Manson's friend Harold True lived there in 1968 and Manson attended LSD parties there.
They just gathered at the murder site of Sharon Tate for a reunion of the Full House cast for a Bob Saget memorial. Jeff Franklin bought the property years ago on Cielo Drive and built a new Mansion there. He created the TV show Full House.
The portable kneeler is a called a “prie-dieu.” Thanks for the tour. So sad.
Love your camera work. If you ever get in the Atlantic Georgia area, check out Westview Cemetery. I did some filming there. The mausoleums are inside a castle type structure. Reminded me of Spain. Absolutely beautiful.
I just came across your channel and it’s right up my alley. Thank you for being so respectful to the victims. I live pretty close to Laurel hill cemetery I. Philly and it’s one of my favorite places to be. Have you ever travelled out this way?
Great video! I love how you put the news reel footage at the beginning to tell the story. That is a prayer kneeling bench I think? ..
Thank you for another informative and entertaining video. I read some years ago, the house at one time, was owned by Walt Disney.
The house he owned was in area up above Los Feliz Blvd, not this.
u guys and Scott are my new addiction! thank u guys u make my boring life less boring!
The roof is called Terracotta, made of clay! It lasts forever, so I'm pretty sure that was there during the murders! Awesome video!
I live on the east coast in Maryland. This story was pushed so hard by the media, people here began to lock their doors at night and kept guns very close. Most of the people I lived around were farmers, bluecollar workers or watermen. They never cared for hippies much anyway, but after this they dispised them, and anyone who did drugs.....
A warning to heed. When you got close to the two Square columns outside the fence you risked a snakebite. When there is shade under foliage a rattlesnake can be found there. Get used to California Bro we don't want you hurt.
Scott Micheal from "Dearly Departed" ( in Los Angeles) would know where Mrs. LaBianca's ashes are spread.
Happy Halloween? Addicted to this channel. I just visited Sharon Tate's and Bela Lugosi's grave last week in Culver City.
Halloween is everyday for us!
I was just going to say the same thing, that on this channel it's always a fun HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!🤗🤗🤗
BIRTHDAY BASH NIGHT COMMIN' SOON!!!
I thought there was Sharon , Jay and two others , not five....anyhow...love your videos..
I live next to Spahn ranch. There's nothing there now its pretty empty. Nothing really left from CM days except debris from the old foundation of the structures that were there before. But it does feel kinda creepy there 👻👻👻
çok güzel konulara değiniyorsunuz..çok ilgimi çekiyor bu konular..ve ayrıntılı bilgi veriyorsunuz teşekkürler..
Hey, I enjoyed this video. My mum was a deep The Beatles fan, and she spent the last few years of her life dealing with lung cancer. I am glad she out she managed to out live Manson, with it only by 12 hours.
You do this with such class, ty for remembering the laBiancas and their lives, they mattered
I love the music for the cemetery exploration 😁
This is my new favorite channel for sure, you guys are so much fun to watch, I am going to have to visit Calvary Cemetery the next time I am in California because it is absolutely beautiful.
Awesome video guys. Hope you guys do the Halloween 1&2 filming locations.
A really good vlog. I like subjects like this. That is called a pew. For kneeling on.
The whole Grimm experience should be transferred to mainstream TV..it has its very own identity ,the music ,the atmosphere all very marketable...some station missing a trick here.
I remember my mom telling me about this growing up and I said why no one was put to death for there crime mom always said the courts are to soft on Manson and his follwers
Hello guys great video like always!👍🏽❤️💯 But I wonder how the immediate family members are doing these days. With the horrific memories of that hot summer day. Rip LaBianca’s
such a gruesome moment in time.
As always, another story presented so well. The work you put in to each of you stories/videos are incredible....this is why I'm one of your number 1 fans
The thing Jessica is kneeling on is called a prie-Dieu. Translates from French as "pray-God".
In a weird twist of fate, Rosemary LaBianca's granddaughter, Ariana Jean Wolk, was found stabbed to death in her home on July 3 2020.
I agree. Wojciech’s son was also stabbed to death, I believe, in Poland.