The expedition that failed to find the Titanic!
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- In this video we tell the story of expedition that attempted to find the Titanic in August of 1980 but ultimately failed. However that didn't stop some members of the team in saying that they actually found the ship.
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Thanks for the shout-out Sam! Glad the books made it to you safely, enjoy!
Thx for sending those books to him it made a great episode!
Thanks for this video!
Nice one Kenneth 👏👍
Very cool books, nice job!
Thank you so much Ken!
At first I chuckled when you listed some of Jack Grimm's eccentric expeditions. It was at that point I realized that if I was super rich I'd be out there looking for Big Foot and the Loch Ness Monster too. I mean, why the hell not?
Hey might as well have some fun with it. And if you do find proof your name would be remembered in history.
I would be looking for the SS Pacific and the Waratah
@@MrChickennugget360 Totally agree. The first expert that comes to mind is Emlyn Brown. He would be number 1 on my list to be on the expedition with me
@@thomasdaniels6824 I actually concur with both of you. I'd be out there finding lost wrecks. Like if they hadn't found the USS Indianapolis yet, I'd pump a lot of money in something like that.
Imagine finding out that you went over it while searching. Just losing your keys and then finding them where you already looked is aggravating enough as is.
Don’t forget the French expedition that came within a whisker of finding the Titanic too.
It just before Ballard’s expedition iirc and they had their own submersibles literally a two hundred metres from the wreck. Yet missed it 😂
The "propeller blade" was later identified as a rock.
No a fossil of a rock!
i thought it was olympic's propeller blade that she through during one of her voyages. Of course it did kinda look like titanic's propeller blade so i was like, "that's probably olympic's" but sadly it was just a rock...
Robert balland said it was a rock he got scared they found it they laughed say its a rock i can still go find her
@David Brazier Highly debunked!
@David Brazier Titanic struck the iceberg, Olympic went on to fulfill a great service and was scrapped for her trouble.
It’s so nice to see a community of people who all enjoy the same topics, and also a place where nobody is toxic:)
The iceberg is toxic
@@skyranger1366 😆
@@skyranger1366 facts
I met Robert Ballard in Springfield Massachusetts in 1986. Got to talk with him for few minutes. I asked him about the break up. Got his autograph too. There's also a titanic museum near me in India orchard Massachusetts. It has jj Astras lifebelt on display.
Possibly another reason Jack Grimm didn't find the wreck was that he hadn't really done much historical research beforehand. His only working hypothesis was that the Titanic had sunk east of the ice field that the Californian had stopped in for the night. The two oceanographers from the Scripps Institute who were on his expedition hurriedly did the necessary historical homework to try to correct this oversight.
This channel is just so darn wholesome. So happy to see it grow!
The people love sam and his dog
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@@Kshep84 who doesn’t love his dog? She’s adorable
@@Kshep84 Yes!
sailors writing songs about specific voyages is a long tradition in the old days of sailing ships, this documentary followed this tradition with that song they had
I was wondering if they were kinda copying “The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald” by Gordon Lightfoot.
The song was such cringe that the Titanic hid from the exbidition.
@@MegCazalet If so, they failed miserably. 🎶🤣
The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald is a classic, and my favourite Gordon Lightfoot song. The Titanic Expedition song didn't quite hit the mark.
@@Terri_MacKay Oh absolutely not even close, haha! But not everybody can be a folk icon ✌️
You might be interested to hear I knew of a middle school in Connecticut that used the Edmund Fitzgerald as a unifying subject to tie all their courses together for the 7th grade curriculum: so in math they calculated cargo weight and ballast and stuff, in science discussed buoyancy, weather, etc, in history covered the actual story, naturally, and in music, used the Gordon Lightfoot song as an inspiration for the kids to write their own. I thought it was a really cool way to approach education. I was sent all the materials because I was writing up a paper for the teacher who had organized it, for her to shop to education journals. I don’t know if it ever got published, but I hope that sort of cross-curriculum unit was used more. I have no continuing connection to schools other than my own k-12 Alma Mater, which is way to traditional to do something like that. But maybe some more progressive schools out there did similar courses. What a perfect topic they chose!
@@MegCazalet I'm Canadian, and went to public school here in Ontario. I'm in my 50's now, so we're going back a few years. During grades 3-6, we were taught in a similar way, except it wasn't for the entire year. Every month, there would be a "theme", and all the work in our different subjects related to that theme, plus we did experiments/projects/puzzles/played games/etc in order to learn about the theme. We worked in groups of 4 or 5, and throughout the month, each group worked on a presentation that would be presented to the rest of the class at the end of the month.
It was a fantastic way to learn, and the theme could be anything...ancient Egypt, the Houses of Parliament, Japan, birds, the weather, inventions, airplanes, and the Aztecs are a few that I remember. I was introduced to ancient Egypt when I was 8, and I've had a lifelong fascination with it. I wish we had gotten the Edmund Fitzgerald as a theme...I would have discovered Gordon Lightfoot even earlier!!
I hope that teacher did get her article published, and that it influenced other educators. I know from personal experience how that method of learning made going to school something that I looked forward every single day.
The instrument part made me laugh so hard what a random song.
Expedition Theme Song: "We're gonna fiiiiiiiiind the Titanic!"
Narrator: They were not, in fact, going to find the Titanic.
They did find the Titanic propeller
That epic bop sounds like maybe they were attempting to pay homage to “The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald” by Gordon Lightfoot, which was a pretty big hit in ‘76. It’s not a cheesy song at all (like that Titanic one) and I recommend it if you’ve never heard it, it’s a classic!
@Heather Ariza-Parker the song was definitely played in Caitlin’s “Ask a mortician” CZcams video.
I remember that film. It was on cassette and usually in a bin of other discounted, generic films. I remember getting my dad to buy it, it was like mid 90s. Ken Marshall even did a painting for the cover (14:50), or poster. But this was also when there was basically, entire shelves dedicated to Titanic documentaries. Thanks to the A&E documentary, and the Illustrated History book, everyone had to have a book and a documentary. Lol. I can't believe I remember that.
Sam playing the violin should be a gif in the discord server lol
Now i'm curious what Grimm's reaction when Ballard found the titanic
That would be interesting to try and find if there's any regarding that.
Most definitely, would be an interesting video!
I'm of the belief that the Titanics location was known for years before Ballard. He was just the one who was "allowed" to find it as a cover for whatever else he was up to. A funny time the Cold War. A history we will not really know in our lifetimes
That was the first thing that popped into my head. What did Grimm have to say about Ballard? Grimm died in 1998 swearing that he had found the Titanic. I don't know what he thought Ballard had found. There's a lengthy obit from the NY Times on Grimm, but little is said about Ballard's discovery that nullified Grimm's claims.
@@1940limited He found the titanic? Where's the evidence?
You've got such an easy voice to listen to. Your my bedtime story teller 😂
After Robert Ballard found the wreck Grimm actually had the nerve to ask Balllard to share in the glory.
At least with Grimm, he was such a goofball that he actually probably legitimately still believed that he'd found Titanic. And in fairness, some of the legwork was already done by his expeditions.
After I found an old car wreck in our woods my wife actually had the nerve to ask me to share in the glory.
"I'll make a deal with you" :
"I found the stern, you found the bow"
!!!!!!
Ballard found the Wreck Mainly bcoz Grimm took the pains to map the Area of nearly 1500 Sq Miles.
I’m glad that this is being talked about.
Thanks for telling the story of Jack Grimm. He was quite a promoter and a real celebrity in Abilene, TX back then. I actually saw his documentary film when it debuted in theatres. It was very exciting and disappointing that they didn't conclusively find Titanic in 1980.
Did he debut it at the Paramount? Or was that more or less dead during that time?
@@justafella Yes I believe I saw it at the Paramount. It got a lot of attention at the time.
He found the Titanic Propeller
My mom bought me a VHS copy of this documentary back in the 90s after everyone tried to make a buck off the movie by putting out all sorts of garbage related to the Titanic. Was hilarious when it ends with them claiming to a rock was the propeller.
Lol 8:09 that part made me laugh so hard
Hey Sam, you should do an episode about why people didn’t believe that the Titanic broke in two until it was found
There were a number of failed attempts to find the Titanic well before the 1985 IFREMER/Woods Hole Institution:
In October 1977, the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution under the direction of Dr. Robert Ballard, sent the "Alcoa Seaprobe" to 41 40; N, 50 01"E [sic-W] this so called "Titanic" expedition had to return due to equipment failure and a shortage of funding.
In 1979 Seawise & Titanic Salvage were conducting an expedition testing deep-sea underwater photography within the same location of the 1977 British sonar hit [note].
In 1979, Robert Gibbons, (one of the original founder's of the Titanic Historical Society) planed an expedition to search within the same general location. However Gibbon's isn't able to raise the necessary funding to complete this expedition.
In 1980 "Cadillac" Jack Grimm (Whom I had the pleasure of talking with several times over the years prior to his death) mounted his first expedition and was out in the same location with a magnetometer, searching for hits. If I remember correctly he located fourteen targets before having to return from the expedition due to bad weather. [note]
In 1981 "Cadillac" Jack is back on another expedition and checked out 13 of the 14 targets and claimed he had found the "Titanic," and this story was picked up by the worldwide press as front page news. However, due to the technology of the early eighties the images from the second Grimm Expedition had were just to poor to prove this fact. [note]
In reviewing the Grimm Expedition information and the current wreck location as found by Dr. Ballard. Jack Grimm's expedition passed right over the wreck. And the location of the fourteenth sonar target was within a tenth of a mile of were the ship was actually located.
Keep in mind this basic fact the bow and the stern are a quarter of a mile apart, and the debris field is over a mile and a half wide in some spots. In Jack Grimm's opinion he found it in 1981, and in my opinion he was damm close. [note]
In 1983, Jack Grimm was back in the area again for a third try too follow up on his prior sonar hits, and prove he had found Titanic as he claimed however, bad weather and high seas stopped his efforts. If the weather had been better in my opinion we would be talking about Jack Grimm and not Dr. Ballard.
People wanted to find and raise the wreck right after it sank in 1912. However we didn’t have the technology and capability to find it until the 1970s and 1980s
Some of the schemes I've read over the years to raise the ship ranged from technologically impossible at the time to just flat out ridiculous. I think the stupidest one I read was that there was an actual idea discussed of filling the ship with ping-pong balls and letting them force the ship to float back to the surface. Thankfully, and mercifully, wiser heads prevailed and this silly idea was aborted.
What if Titanic threw a blade when it struck the iceberg (very possible) and it was that thrown blade that Grimm and his team drove his cameras over in 1981? Just laying there all by itself below where the ship hit the berg but quite a ways a way from the actual wreck itself? In the time between the hitting of the iceberg and the wreck hitting the bottom two hours and fifty minutes later how far did the ship travel? To me that image looks like a blade, sitting all by itself flat on the bottom. It is unlikely... but not impossible. If that could somehow be proven to be a blade out there then would that change the narrative of who found the Titanic first?
@@michaelsinkler3069 That idea's been brought up before. The "propeller" was visited in 1985 and found to be a rock outcropping.
Maybe we should thank titan the monkey who Grimm consulted to show him on a map where the wreck is.
I was laughing so much when he brought out the guitar on the titanic song 🤣
Bob Ballard himself completely rubbishes "Grimm's Propellor Blade" in his own book on the Titanic.
There was actually a THIRD Grimm Expedition, but it was even less successful then the 1st 2. They had a VERY limited time on site, they were hampered by bad weather most of the time (if I remember correctly), and while the scientists wanted to continue into areas that they had poor coverage on, they found that Jack Grimm was obsessed with his "14 targets" from the '81 expedition; they would order the ship to unexplored areas, then go to sleep and awake in the morning to find that Jack Grimm had countermanded those instructions and ordered them back to one of his previous targets - he just couldn't believe that one of them was not the TITANIC.
There is another story, but I can't remember which of the expeditions it was from: Grimm wanted to include a monkey,named "Titan", who had been trained to point to areas where the wreck might be. He thought this would be a hoot for the documentaries. The scientists were SO aghast at this, they threatened to walk if the monkey went along - if he goes, WE go. Grimm's response? "Fire the scientists". Eventually, after a lot of back and forth, the scientists prevailed and Titan the Monkey lost his berth.
Idk the last time I had such a good wholesome laugh or be so entertained at a documentary than Sam at 8:09. It feels weird laughing at something so educationally wholesome. Bravo Sam
Hi Sam, I've read another interesting story about the wreck of the RMS Titanic, Paul Henri Nargeolet who was in the French team of the 1985 expedition, said in an interview that a wreck of a big vessel in this area was well known by military submarines, in fact they used this big wreck to hide their ship from other submarines. P.H.Nargeolet said that Robert Ballard may have known that information.We know that the 1985 expedition was first a military expedition to find the USS Scorpion and the USS Thresher, two missing submarines, the deal was to find these two ships first and then Ballard could continue the exploration and try to find the RMS Titanic, and he succeeded.
Military submarines didnt use the wreck to hid. If a submarine is 12000 ft below the surface, its sunk. They dont dive that deep. The water pressure, its the small submersibles that can be made to sustain that amount of pressure.
Theres also other ships in the neighborhood, E Y Townsend (daniel j morrell sister ship) broke up in a strom while entow to Spain for scrapping. Its also believed the lost WSL Naronic is most likely in the area as the bottle notes that surfaced from that wreck all said she struck a iceburg. There probably other wrecks around also, its one of the main shipping lines in the North Atlantic
@@tinypoolmodelshipyard Yes I know that military submarines don't dive so deep, I don't know exactly how they could "hide", Nargeolet just said that a big wreck is known by the military in this area. I didn't know about the other ships you mentioned, it's interesting. Thank you for your answer. regards
8:13 Hearing the string make that noise was priceless. Love the reaction Sam! And you're not wrong, that song is very cheesy.
😂🤣priceless
I've actually heard that Robert Ballard also went to Grim's "propeller" site and discovered that it's actually just a large rock. It looks kind of like a propeller, but it's just a rock.
oh! Thanks I didnt know that
@@HistoricTravels Get yourself a copy of "The Discovery of the Titanic" by Dr. Robert Ballard. It summarizes all of this, and it also goes into Dr. Ballard's disastrous 1977 expedition to find the Titanic.
Quite so. It is a large rock. This is gone over in both editions of Ballard's book, The Discovery of the Titanic.
@@mikedicenso2778 I do have this book in my personal library. Great read.
Great video as always, Travels. Always great to learn something new.
You missed several things here in this video. For one thing, the 1985 Ballard expedition did visit the "propeller" and it was found to just be a rock outcropping.
Grimm also undertook a third expedition in July of 1983. It was hastily put together, and only spent a few days on site, but it was all for nothing again as Grimm's eccentric behavior may have scuttled any chance of finding the wreck. What happened? As expected, they went back to the "propeller" to determine what it really was and they did not find the Titanic at all, so Ryan plotted for the ship to tow the Sea Marc sonar vehicle on a eastward course into brand new territory, but overnight Grimm order the ship back to look at the "propeller" since he couldn't accept there was no Titanic there. With all their time wasted and major storms on the way, they were forced once again to leave.
The three Grimm expeditions are well-summarized in Dr. Ballard's book "The Discovery of the Titanic" and how they relate to Ballard's 1985 expedition. You'll also learn about Dr. Ballard's first, disastrous expedition in October 1977 with the Seaprobe where hundreds of thousands of dollars in equipment was lost due to a simple reinforcement pipe not being in place.
thanks for telling me!
Yep spot on!!
@@HistoricTravels No problem. You might want to consider making a follow up video.
This channel is just so darn wholsome. so happy to see this channel grow
Yeah, I remember this quite well. The late James Drury, who was my cousin, travelled on this expedition and narrated the documentary. It was a real fiasco and Grimm tried to convince anybody who would listen that he found the Titanic. I think my cousin sent us a copy of the VHS AS WELL. Good research on your part.
Love your videos dude! Big love from the uk x
Hey very nice video! Respect for you finding all this info for 1 single video
According to a book I have owned for many, many years. Jack Grimm funded 3 expeditions in 1980 and 81, like what was stated in the video, and the final one was in 1983. It does not mention they may have located any part of the ship just that they found nothing. It does not go into anymore detail then that since this book covers the entire history of the ship from the concept, to construction, voyage, disaster, the aftermath and finally the discovery of the wreck. And some of the movies made over the years including A Night to Remember in 58, Titanic in 1953, Saved from the Titanic in 1912, a lost film, and of course Titanic in 1997 with Kate and Leo among many others. The name of this book is 882 1/2 amazing answers to your questions about the Titanic. Since I have had it well before 2012, but after 1997 one thing I wonder about is was there a large shipment of gold aboard. This is in the true or false section. It says most likely false and the records will be opened in 2012. Now over a decade later I do not remember ever hearing anything more about that. Do you have any info on that Sam?
Nah no shipment, they've been in the cargo bay too.
Hey Sam, Great job once more.... Very very interesting! 🧐👍
Never heard about the 1980 expedition. Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing, Sam!
Very very nice! Thanks for sharing.
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great video. i was around back then (i'm old) and i recall many times people wanting to find it. i really didn't think it would ever happen!
That song rocks. I am adding it to my collection! I've listened to it all day!
Great video Sam!
Thanks for your videos, Sam. This video brought back memories of when I was 6 or 7 years old around 1980 and was obsessed with the Titanic myself. My friend showed me his dad's model of the Titanic and told me the story. I wanted to grow up and find the Titanic until Robert Ballard shattered my dreams. LOL. My babysitter had some Disney book that had a bunch of myths and I remember a realistic picture of Medusa that freaked me out. I also specifically remember the Jack Grimm propeller mosaic photo that you can see on encyclopedia titanica. (not sure if I could put a link to that photo). I also remember that I was disappointed because Jack Grimm's propeller was not the right shape and I knew every inch of that ship, but it was the closest you could get to the Titanic and it stretched the imagination. Around that time the movie Raise the Titanic was on cable and I watched it over and over. I read the book in 2nd grade and loved it (not really for children). I own a Blu Ray copy and would especially love to hear your comments on the book and/or movie. I think it would make a great topic because although a work of fiction, it does have a lot of parallels to the real Ballard expedition with the Russians and all. Keep up the good work.
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Can you make please Britannic Story video i am waiting sooooo long
Great video sam. Had a chuckle at it with you
Sam, I remember the Jack Grimm expedition to find the TITANIC. It happened my sophomore year in highschool. Dr. Robert Ballard, in his book Discovery of the Titanic, say that Grimm's supposed photo of TITANIC'S propeller was the photo of a rock. I agree with Dr. Ballard.
I know, if only Sam had read The Discovery of the Titanic (especially the 1987 edition).
OMG THE VIOLIN IS BACK 🎻
Omg !!! The violin !! I have a violin !!! I played the violin back in high school
Listening to Sinkable by Daniel Stone right now and he is talking about Jack Grimm. Had to check CZcams for this sonar propeller and of course you have a video on it 😂😂 great content as always! ❤❤
I remember reading a magazine article about the expedition and the article contained a picture of the propeller. The magazine was a science magazine (Omni? Discovery?). Piqued my interest because 50 years ago I was like Sam but after a public humiliation by a teacher I scaled down my enthusiasm for the Titanic. I didn't give up my interest, I just kept my ear to the ground.
What was your teacher's problem?
@@1940limitedIt was 1972. Like three weeks until the end of the semester. Teacher had run out of curriculum for that day, so, he decided to fill the last 15 minutes with "What do you want to be when you grow up?" I was the second one called on. I said "I want to find and raise the Titanic." He started laughing and was laughing so hard that he had to hold on to the desk to keep from falling over. He got out, "It's so deep that no one will ever find it" and kept laughing. Because he was laughing, the students joined in.
Humiliated, I gathered my books and was crying by the time I hit the hallway. I raced down two flights of stairs and was about to exit the school when the principal caught me. He brought me in his office, calmed me down and I told my story. That day, he transferred me to another homeroom. The teacher that humiliated me-the principal must have torn him a new one because the several times I saw him on the playground-he gave me a death stare.
@@The_Dudester That's no way to treat a student about anything. I wonder what that jerky teacher has to say now what with all the Titanic interest worldwide? I wonder what he had to say about Ballard? I don't know if Ballard made a huge amount of money finding the Titanic but he surely achieved world wide fame. I think the answer you gave the teacher was fascinating and would have made a great talking point for the class. Obviously that guy shouldn't be a teacher. This many years later maybe he's dead and gone. No loss. You were a visionary. It took 73 years to develop the technology to find the wreck, but it's been done. It was a childhood dream of mine, too.
@@1940limited Thanks. Did you ever read the book: Raise the Titanic? Misogynistic, but interesting.
@@The_Dudester No, I saw the movie. That's it. I think the only book I've read about the Titanic are Walter Lord's A Night To Remember and the original publication from 1914: Story Of The Wreck Of The Titanic.
Never knew about that expedition ...thanks sam very interesting
In Robert Ballard's book that he wrote about his own expedition, The Discovery of the Titanic, he tells the story of Grimm's expedition as well.
Awesome, thank you for an informative video.
Thanks Sam very interesting 😁🇬🇧
I've been interested in the Titanic since 1960 when A Night to Remember aired on TV. I bought the book in paperback from our scholastic b ook sale. I do remember the 1980 expedition and the ultimate location of the wreck by Ballard five years later. So many vontroversies were cleared up.
Sam, it was the 80's, it was what they did. The Titanic Song.
Encyclopedia Titanica had a couple threads of people arguing about who found it first. A lot of them loathed Ballard. The threads were from like 2005-2006 though. I don’t know if they’re still up.
Great video sir! Here for the algorithm🤘🏻
Great Video!!
I subscribe today because he explains right to make me understand and be entertained
That Song though! Legendary! :')
Dr Ballard rocks, obviously, but is also a gentleman. He recounts much of Jack Grimms expeditions in his 1987 book "The Discovery of the Titanic" but doesn't gloat or mock, indeed Ballard suggests that Grimms trips helped to further underwater mapping etc. Dr Ballard did attempt to locate and film the Titanics propellers though, in an attempt to finally disprove Grimm, but was unable to locate them due to the technology of the time, and a sensible fear of venturing too far under a newly-discovered wreck that could have been very unstable. Great vid Sam, as ever!!!
What did Grimm have to say when Ballard really did find the wreck? According to Ballard, Grimm did come very close to finding the wreck, but missed the mark. Ballard combed a huge area of the ocean floor looking for the ship and almost missed it himself.
He, basically, said what you'd expect: that he'd actually found the ship first, and that he had been cheated.
Jack Grimm looks like the tall man from the phantasm movies
So I am a retired electronics engineer and I worked in the offshore oil exploration industry in 1980/81 and I remember there was a lot of talk within the industry about these expeditions at that time.
I learned something new today!
8:02
I swear to god I burst into laughter
that was way too cheesy
I knew about the Jack Grimm expedition. Think he came within a quarter mile of the Titanic. Might be wrong though. That song was so corny. Thanks for the update and stay safe.
It's my understanding Grimm did come very close to the wreck. That's according to Ballard. I remember reading in Titanic Historical Society newsletters that passengers who were still alive had "reservations" about Grimm's expeditions. I guess they wanted to leave the wreck alone, wherever it was.
He came on one pass within a mile and a half of the wreck. He'd have found it if he hadn't been such a nutter and had let his people do their jobs.
Thank you Sam.
Can you build the official lego titanic set? Its a masterpiece
I just wonder how this guy felt once Robert Ballard found the Titanic in 1985. Because once Ballard found the debris field around the stern section, it was apparent that this guy was or should have been labeled as a fraud in this expedition in 1980 and 81.
I remember the Grimm expeditions. He did about 3 of them if I recall. Many expected him to find it. They thought he had a sonar hit on one of the propellers and that looked like it. Truth is Grimm and his team went right by the Titanic(500 feet) and missed it. Bob Ballard even said, '..thats fate'. IMHO Grimm played a part in the eventual location of the ship. He did sonar prowls on much of the area where the ship could've been but left an area open after the last circa 1983. That's where Ballard's underwater camera sled found the boilers, in the debris field, and eventually tracked the debris into the Titanic itself. ...Yeah Grimm was so close and almost did it.
There were 3 and only Robert Ballard and his team could find it lol
Dr. Ballard the man
Or the Royal Navy, which probably found the wreck in 1977
@@chrisnicholson2407 the one who identifies it wins.
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc they did. They just did it using a then-classified deep sea sonar so they couldn't tell anyone.
@@chrisnicholson2407 And sonar has a few problems when it comes to positively identifying a shipwreck, which is partly why Jean Louis Michel didn't find the wreck a few weeks before Robert Ballard did. Sonar can't easily tell the difference between underwater geography and wreckage. It was later determined that Jean Louis came within 100 yards of the bow section on his first sonar run! But yes, the RN expedition probably did find the Titanic wreck in '77.
Another great video that I new nothin about apart from the Bob Ballard video.
I love your videos Sam. Can you pleas make video about ship Eastland (here in Czechia we sometimes call it czech Titanic). It was ship in Chicago that turned over in port and killed more than 800 people on board (and big part of theme were czech immigrants).
Hey my friend After seeing it on your channel I ordered "On a sea of Glass" it arrives in about a week. Thank you!
Robert said the propeller was a rock in his search for the titanic doc he got scared then laughed said its a rock kept moving forward to get his search on way
I found a cows leg bone in a hole when I was little, and I of course thought it was a dinosaur bone.
And I feel much smarter than this expedition result
Believe me, you've no idea. The first expedition was going to be more showmanship than science with Grimm wanting to have a monkey point to a site on the search field map and then that's where the ship would be.
The scientists nearly walked off the project, and Grimm was happy to have them all fired, but luckily saner heads prevailed and the monkey got left behind.
I’m so glad I watched this half way, watched the documentary and then came back. That machete order made your conclusion even better.
What a coincidence, I’m watching this on August 15
Wow they went right over the wreck and missed it,
They must have been so salty when Ballard found it
Dr Ballard devoted a whole chapter to the Grimm Expedition In his Titanic book. He even explained why it failed. And also what lessons he took from it
It's weird that Sam would not know of that. Surely he's read that book. Maybe it was long ago and a reread is called for.
Have you ever reached out to Robert Ballard and tried to get an interview with him?? How cool would that be!?
Oh dear God I just got slapped upside my head by that clip from that "documentary" about the Jack Grimm expedition. I had forgotten that I'd watched it as a 9-year old. That clip takes me back. It was a different era where Leonard Nimoy hosting "In Search of..." was plausibly more than just entertainment. Yea gods, what a rush!
Yeah now we know how this ends
I want to say I remember reading a book Grimm put out about his expedition as a kid, as Titanic always fascinated me. Funny that all he said was disproved by Ballard's discovery of the wreck a few years later.
I remember hearing about Grimm expedition back in 1980 or the later ones. I was a kid at the time. There was an article in in Time magazine or something like that and some newspaper coverage. Heard about the "propeller" but it wasn't until recently that I recently saw an image of it. I wonder if there was ever a book published about these Grimm expeditions.
glad i catched it
Catched????? Caught
I didn't see the notification so i missed the primer
Titanic I love 💕😢
They pointed out the propeller blade looks like from A white Star liner, I do believe Olympic sometimes took the route Titanic did as well. And if anybody didn’t know. The Olympic threw a propeller blade in February 1912, 2 months before Titanic sunk. Possibly Olympics propeller blade? Also another thing. In 1929, when the Olympic was sailing in the area over Titanic’s last known position an earthquake happened which saw the ship vibrate about 2 minutes. Now I am not sure, but maybe the shaking made the propeller blade fall off? Honestly, I don’t know but yeah. 2 theory’s I have.
I would love to see you play that violin if you can, also first time seeing someone "play" a violin like a guitar 😅
I saw Grimm's name and "propeller" mentioned in the original "Discovery of the Titanic" book by Ballard in the 80's. I didn't think it was a very obscure topic for Titanic buffs. Good to hear some actual details on the expedition though.
😅😂oh, that's funny 😁 the Titanic blades are enormous.
If only there were two sunken US nuclear subs in Turkey, Robert Ballard would have found Noah Ark too…😏
In 1980 there was also the movie Raise The Titanic
I'd like to make some suggestions if you're interested. Why not make a video on the power plant of the Olympic class (engines, electric system, machinery)?
You could also consider the HMS Victoria - it's a shipwreck that has settled vertically following a collision.
Food for thought. Love your work.