for live shows and ease of use, NO DOUBT.. For studio, drives still have a tad of character. I tried this at home a/b too with tonex and dsrives... it is very good.
You could build a smaller board with a couple of tonex pedals, an hx effects, and a midi controller. You could have any amp, any drive pedal, and all the wet sounds you would need at the hit of one button. Wish i would have went that route instead of the true big board route
Tons of options! The ToneX with drive pedal captures on a midi-enabled board would be insane ... in this case, 24 drive pedals in the place of 1-3 haha.
I have the TONEX now and WOW! This thing is so close you cannot tell for most things that a simple EQ could not straighten out. Ive just hooked this up to the return in my tube amp in my pedal chain and hot damn this pedal rocks. The only thing I don't like is the money trap part of the pedal with buying plugins and stuff, but I guess it's no different buying them elsewhere. I am either going to buy a second one for doing effects pedals and having them on the board separately with other amp captures. TONEX ONE more than likely.
I think what this video proves is that you can get killer tone from just about any overdrive pedal! Great job David and Kenyon. All these presets sound amazing.
Do you plan to capture the amplifier along with the drive pedals in a single capture, so we can run the amp and stomp in one Tonex? If yes, when? Thank you for the video.
Thank you gentlemen. Been trying hard to save space on the board. I love my Russian fuzz but it's taking up space for two mini pedal slots. So I can use one of these and my mini OD.
Great video; thanks. I just purchased the ToneX and I'm still working through how to use it best. Do you guys have an overview video highlighting its functionality?
Look forward to you guys checking out Neural Amp Modeler, the open source version of ToneX basically. Would be super interested on your take, I use it and love it! I need your JMI in NAM format!
I'd like to try to capture my Paul Trombetta Bone Machine. It's got terrific. Edge of breakup clean sounds reminiscent of a Tweed or AC 30. But the fuzzy trumpet voice might be tricky to capture.
Would I be able to use an stomp-amp-can if I had just one tonex? I guess my idea would be one preset with no drive and the other two with different drives into the same amp. Read the manual but couldn’t find an answer
When are you guys making ac30 or fender with these pedals captures? Most of us wanna use tonex as amp clean and amp with these drives… So thankful for you job!!! 😁
What I got out of this is how similar most of the drives are, not same but in a mix they really are shades apart. From that perspective using the Tonex will get it done I guess but 2 complimentary drives that stack well is probably better.
Hey gents, do you have a video somewhere that could walk us through your pedal capture process ? I'd be super curious to know what capture signal chain you use etc.. to try and reproduce the level you've achieved on some of our pedals!
Hello, I bought the kilt and the JMI on your site, but it does not sounds the same as the video. I use the kilt and the amp on amplitube, what can I do to have the gain and the punch like the sound on this video ? (I hope my guitar is not the problem)
Thanks for checking them out! On the pedal, we recommend adjusting the input trim to around +7.5-8.5 to get the breakup and gain to be proper. On the plugin, there should be a similar trim that you can adjust.
If you can throw in some curve ball there and run the captures on a real valve amp and see how sound differs from the real pedals. That would be the real test there how the captures and real pedals reacts into a real valve amp.
Hey! Thank you for your AWESOME job. I couldn't find answer anywhere and I'm wondering if I can use ToneX ONLY as drive pedal, without any amp profiling, just like an multi-overdrive effect in my pedalboard? Thank you!
Thanks! YES you can! That is exactly what we are doing in this video. The tonex is just acting as a drive pedal. You can then feed that into whatever you want. In this video, we are using a second Tonex off camera as the amplifier (with our amp captures).
@@Tone_Factor ohh yeah, firstly I didn’t get that exact distinction. Thank you! Now I’m thinking about using my Kemper with yours profiles as my amps & „post amp and cab” effects and adding ToneX as my drives, cause they sound SOO good! You honestly inspire, thank you guys!
@@wabisabi7399 thanks! We didn’t directly compare total max output volume to the Klon specifically, but between the capture preset volume and master volume on the tonex, there is plenty of headroom to push your amp like a real pedal.
Hi guys, great video, i purchased the tonex but im waiting to arrive. I have a little question, Its possible to use (for example i have my real amp vox nighttrain combo) as a cambinet, and use tonex with a patch Klon+Twin Reverb(without cab), and another patch without the Klon, only the twin?. I mean, i need to download a patch just created with Klon+Twin? or can i drag n drop Klon into a Twin and place to the Tonex? thanks guys!
Definitely late to this video, but would these overdrive captures work well for bass? Not sure if they were captured in a way that would be just optimal for guitar. Any help on this would be appreciated!
So basically I can clone any pedal I have, not just a specific amp? Can I than merge a specific pedal with any amp / pedal to create my own preset let say an ampeg svt + boss OC-5 & C-2W?
This seems like a great way to also demo pedal tones before you go drop big $$$ on the real pedal. Good to know if you really like it or if it was hype, I mean how many people talk about a klon but don’t actually use that tone in their set? Makes those unicorn pedals fun while saving cash
David, I bought all the pedals you guys put here. I'm using it with Ruby UAD and the result is fantastic. In your opinion do the Captures behave well for recording?
Thanks for checking all of them out! Glad you like them! We think the captures sound awesome and wouldn’t hesitate to use them live or in the studio. - David
Alright so I tried this… the concept is incredible. Having infinite options out of one pedal is very appealing. The presets from TF sound really good, but when I compared it directly to my shnobel daily driver, I couldn’t convince myself to go this route. I could get it about 90% of the way there with tweaking, but still preferred the way the real pedal pushed the amp. If you don’t have the pedals to compare side by side, you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference, especially in a mix.
Thanks for checking them out! One thought on your use case - most of our captures are saved around the same volume, so they aren’t necessarily boosting or pushing the amp hard as is. Did you turn the volume of the master as well as the capture to get the same volume output to push the amp like you have your real pedal dialed in? That would be biggest variable in this case.
How the gain work. Is the pedal range alread been captured? In the demos u didnt mess with gain... for me we cant be sure of the tonex capturing all pedal adjusts or only the sound that was cloned.
Yes, we captured all of the pedals in all the various gainstages that each pedal has to offer. In the demo section of this video, we demonstrate every capture that is included in each pedal capture download.
@@Tone_Factor Got it now. Thanks for answearing. So its not possible to use a gain Knob and expect a similar pedal response. We have to change to another capture. Rigth?
@@rodolfosrb3868 you can do either - the gain knob (and EQ) on the TONEX actually does a great job and still sounding like the pedal when tweaked! That’s why we didn’t do 40 captures per pedal… that would be kind of useless.
@@Tone_Factor At this point I just need to wait until ToneX 2.0 with stereo amps and the ability to add captured overdrives. That would be game over. But good work guys, these captures are sounding PRIME.
Download our Pedal Capture Packs HERE: www.tonefactor.co/tonex
Love that I was able to compare 24 different drives side by side! Though I might be dreaming about the same lick over and over again...
I was already loving my TONEX, but this video opened up a whole new world with that pedal! Excellent work! Thanks!
for live shows and ease of use, NO DOUBT.. For studio, drives still have a tad of character. I tried this at home a/b too with tonex and dsrives... it is very good.
wild wild wild.
This is one of the most comprehensive drive reviews on the internet.
Wowowow! Way to set the precedent again, boys!
RC Booster would be super helpful for the next batch!
These sound awesome. Just need IK to release a ToneX Max/XL/2.0 with stereo amps etc.
You could build a smaller board with a couple of tonex pedals, an hx effects, and a midi controller. You could have any amp, any drive pedal, and all the wet sounds you would need at the hit of one button. Wish i would have went that route instead of the true big board route
Tons of options! The ToneX with drive pedal captures on a midi-enabled board would be insane ... in this case, 24 drive pedals in the place of 1-3 haha.
Even better place your pedal away or on top of your amp and have nothing but a midi controller and expression on the floor.
Pretty much me, I just fumbled by getting a ACS1. Should’ve waited for the tone x …
Tone X One is now the perfect drive pedal!!
Exactly!
This was SO cool to see the comparisons! Thanks for your hard work. I’ll for sure be picking up some of these
Right on! Thanks for watching.
This channel needs more subs asap! More videos needed asap!
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I have the TONEX now and WOW! This thing is so close you cannot tell for most things that a simple EQ could not straighten out. Ive just hooked this up to the return in my tube amp in my pedal chain and hot damn this pedal rocks. The only thing I don't like is the money trap part of the pedal with buying plugins and stuff, but I guess it's no different buying them elsewhere. I am either going to buy a second one for doing effects pedals and having them on the board separately with other amp captures. TONEX ONE more than likely.
Great work!! Awesome video.
I think what this video proves is that you can get killer tone from just about any overdrive pedal!
Great job David and Kenyon. All these presets sound amazing.
Do you plan to capture the amplifier along with the drive pedals in a single capture, so we can run the amp and stomp in one Tonex? If yes, when? Thank you for the video.
Could you guys do a demo of the ACS1 IRs sometime?
Thank you gentlemen. Been trying hard to save space on the board. I love my Russian fuzz but it's taking up space for two mini pedal slots. So I can use one of these and my mini OD.
So it still can't quite do fuzz, but it got about as gainy as the Tube Driver...
Great video; thanks. I just purchased the ToneX and I'm still working through how to use it best. Do you guys have an overview video highlighting its functionality?
I should make Tonex captures of my Muse inspired dirt products (My real Animato, Big Muff Black Russian)
Thanks so much for making this!!
Yeah!
Yes it did for me. I had 4 drive/distortion pedals on my board and the TONEX replaced all of them.
That’s amazing 🤘🏻
Look forward to you guys checking out Neural Amp Modeler, the open source version of ToneX basically. Would be super interested on your take, I use it and love it! I need your JMI in NAM format!
for gigging musicians software-based sound is not viable yet (
@@igorzavalnyi5341it is with keybords tho
I'd like to try to capture my Paul Trombetta Bone Machine. It's got terrific. Edge of breakup clean sounds reminiscent of a Tweed or AC 30. But the fuzzy trumpet voice might be tricky to capture.
Would I be able to use an stomp-amp-can if I had just one tonex? I guess my idea would be one preset with no drive and the other two with different drives into the same amp. Read the manual but couldn’t find an answer
When are you guys making ac30 or fender with these pedals captures? Most of us wanna use tonex as amp clean and amp with these drives…
So thankful for you job!!! 😁
Perfect captures. Are you going to add new pedals?
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Makes ToneX seem really good, really good.
In terms of capturing and replicating the tone of an amp or pedal, we think it's the most accurate platform out there right now (we have all of them).
Bet you guys will be whistling these licks for the next few weeks 🤭
It was a nice break from the ToneX capture samples, but yeahhhh.
@@Tone_Factor We appreciate the dedication to the cause 👏🏻
Hey David, regards your TONEX capture of your AC30. What was your trim input level setup for the amp capture?
Thanks!
Try running around +7.5-8.5
@@Tone_Factor thank u!🙏🏻
What I got out of this is how similar most of the drives are, not same but in a mix they really are shades apart.
From that perspective using the Tonex will get it done I guess but 2 complimentary drives that stack well is probably better.
Hey gents, do you have a video somewhere that could walk us through your pedal capture process ? I'd be super curious to know what capture signal chain you use etc.. to try and reproduce the level you've achieved on some of our pedals!
I assume you can also do a capture of 2 or 3 stacked drives?
Hello, I bought the kilt and the JMI on your site, but it does not sounds the same as the video. I use the kilt and the amp on amplitube, what can I do to have the gain and the punch like the sound on this video ? (I hope my guitar is not the problem)
Thanks for checking them out! On the pedal, we recommend adjusting the input trim to around +7.5-8.5 to get the breakup and gain to be proper. On the plugin, there should be a similar trim that you can adjust.
@@Tone_Factor thanks for your answer ! I will try it !
Do the secret preamp please 😀😀😀
Can it do the Swedish Chainsaw? The iconic Boss HM-2. Or a modern monster like the Lichtlaerm Medusa.
If you can throw in some curve ball there and run the captures on a real valve amp and see how sound differs from the real pedals. That would be the real test there how the captures and real pedals reacts into a real valve amp.
I’d be interested to hear that as well!
bump !
Hey! Thank you for your AWESOME job.
I couldn't find answer anywhere and I'm wondering if I can use ToneX ONLY as drive pedal, without any amp profiling, just like an multi-overdrive effect in my pedalboard? Thank you!
Thanks! YES you can! That is exactly what we are doing in this video. The tonex is just acting as a drive pedal. You can then feed that into whatever you want. In this video, we are using a second Tonex off camera as the amplifier (with our amp captures).
@@Tone_Factor ohh yeah, firstly I didn’t get that exact distinction. Thank you!
Now I’m thinking about using my Kemper with yours profiles as my amps & „post amp and cab” effects and adding ToneX as my drives, cause they sound SOO good!
You honestly inspire, thank you guys!
How did you set input trim in your box?
Holy shit! Can you compare this with the BOSS OD-200 or to the drive sims on the Fractal? Now, you've convinced me to get a Tonex. 🔥
The TONEX is impressive!
@@Tone_Factor that Klon capture is impressive! Does it have the same headroom? Thanks for this video! Subscribed! 🤘
@@wabisabi7399 thanks! We didn’t directly compare total max output volume to the Klon specifically, but between the capture preset volume and master volume on the tonex, there is plenty of headroom to push your amp like a real pedal.
@@Tone_Factor thanks for the reply! Cheers! 🍻
Did you Guys tweak the eq of the captured amp? Or is the ‘clean’ sound the stock capture? It sound incredible!
Hi guys, great video, i purchased the tonex but im waiting to arrive. I have a little question, Its possible to use (for example i have my real amp vox nighttrain combo) as a cambinet, and use tonex with a patch Klon+Twin Reverb(without cab), and another patch without the Klon, only the twin?. I mean, i need to download a patch just created with Klon+Twin? or can i drag n drop Klon into a Twin and place to the Tonex? thanks guys!
I have question, can i use amp captures and pedal captures on tonex at the same time?
No you can only run one capture at a time. In this video we are running pedal captures on one ToneX and amp captures on another.
Can't wait for mine to arrive and try some of these going unto my UAFX Dream 65.
Would also love a 1981 Drv and Lvl 😉
Great suggestions. Let us know how you like the captures!
How do you load a pedal capture before the amp capture ?
Definitely late to this video, but would these overdrive captures work well for bass? Not sure if they were captured in a way that would be just optimal for guitar. Any help on this would be appreciated!
They work great on bass as well!
So basically I can clone any pedal I have, not just a specific amp? Can I than merge a specific pedal with any amp / pedal to create my own preset let say an ampeg svt + boss OC-5 & C-2W?
Hey will these be available for Headrush Prime⁉️
Sold.
GET IT DUDES ⚡⚡
How well do the Tonex amps react to wet effects in front? That seems to be the weakest part of the different modelers I’ve tried.
This seems like a great way to also demo pedal tones before you go drop big $$$ on the real pedal. Good to know if you really like it or if it was hype, I mean how many people talk about a klon but don’t actually use that tone in their set? Makes those unicorn pedals fun while saving cash
Nice job! Which amp capture are you using on your other tonex?
We are using Kenyon’s JMI capture pack! www.tonefactor.co/product-page/jmi-30-6-kenyon-reed-tonex
@@Tone_Factor thank you!
awesome 😊
David, I bought all the pedals you guys put here. I'm using it with Ruby UAD and the result is fantastic. In your opinion do the Captures behave well for recording?
Thanks for checking all of them out! Glad you like them!
We think the captures sound awesome and wouldn’t hesitate to use them live or in the studio. - David
But , can we stack it ??
Are you guys gonna make any more stuff for the ACS1?🥺
Yes! More (the best yet) IR packs coming soon!
Alright so I tried this… the concept is incredible. Having infinite options out of one pedal is very appealing. The presets from TF sound really good, but when I compared it directly to my shnobel daily driver, I couldn’t convince myself to go this route. I could get it about 90% of the way there with tweaking, but still preferred the way the real pedal pushed the amp. If you don’t have the pedals to compare side by side, you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference, especially in a mix.
Thanks for checking them out!
One thought on your use case - most of our captures are saved around the same volume, so they aren’t necessarily boosting or pushing the amp hard as is. Did you turn the volume of the master as well as the capture to get the same volume output to push the amp like you have your real pedal dialed in? That would be biggest variable in this case.
@@Tone_Factor UPDATE: the tonex was on an old firmware..updated it and it fixed all the problems :)
Glad to hear it!@@paulwney
@@paulwneydo you mean to say that it sounds the same as the real pedal now that you updated your tonex? Can it replace your daily driver?
Better than Quad Cortex??
Purely in terms of capturing amps or pedals and replicating the tone, the ToneX is more accurate to the real thing in our experience.
Can use these plugins in the plugin too ?
Yes you can! And they sound great that way as well.
How the gain work. Is the pedal range alread been captured? In the demos u didnt mess with gain... for me we cant be sure of the tonex capturing all pedal adjusts or only the sound that was cloned.
Yes, we captured all of the pedals in all the various gainstages that each pedal has to offer. In the demo section of this video, we demonstrate every capture that is included in each pedal capture download.
@@Tone_Factor Got it now. Thanks for answearing. So its not possible to use a gain Knob and expect a similar pedal response. We have to change to another capture. Rigth?
@@rodolfosrb3868 you can do either - the gain knob (and EQ) on the TONEX actually does a great job and still sounding like the pedal when tweaked! That’s why we didn’t do 40 captures per pedal… that would be kind of useless.
You should do a collab with Josh Scott from JHS.
We love Josh & his show (and his pedals!).
What amp capture was used for the base dry tone?
Think ac30
Silly question here, but how many captures can I use at the same time? Is it limited to one capture per tonex pedal, including the amp captures?
You can use one capture at a time. In this video, we have one TONEX running pedals and another running the amp.
@@Tone_Factor Could you use a "complex" rig ? i.e. featuring a full signal chain example your favourite pedal into an amp for instance ?
Are you able to release them for helix? By the way, are you planning to release more song presets for Helix?
He Helix can't capture pedals like the ToneX, but we do have lots more Line 6 presets on the way!
@Tone_Factor I'm excited!!! Thank you, guys!!!
can you stack the pedals?
You can only run one capture at a time. So it would have to be captured that way.
Can it be a pedal?
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Dang
no vemuram there ?hmm
That is a great suggestion for the next batch!
They all sound very similar. I own almost all the pedals that were presented here and they sound much more different.
Looks like y’all needed a…JHS switchback…
We have some loopers we could have used, but we thought the changes would be more clear with physically bypassing them since the tone is so close! :)
Wait so could I use a tonex as an amp modeler and pedal sim at the same time? I’m debating selling my pod go but I don’t want to have to buy 2 tonex’s
You would need two in this case - one to run drive pedals and one to run amps.
@@Tone_Factor unless you wanted to run in stereo, then you'll need 4 ToneX's ;-)
@@clintyoung9902 the drive pedals are mono, so you just need one for that and then two if you ran stereo amps.
@@Tone_Factor True!
@@Tone_FactorI bet we’re gonna see a rig with three ToneX’ii for this 😂
lmao, even in the intro examples the answer is obviously no. it’s close but like all digital models/captures, it’s not quite the real thing.
meh.....save money and headache....get the Boss ME-90
About to watch but pedal capturing on ToneX or QC is way more unreliable than amps
To buy a third ToneX or not to buy a third ToneX? 🫣😂
Exactly
@@Tone_Factor At this point I just need to wait until ToneX 2.0 with stereo amps and the ability to add captured overdrives. That would be game over. But good work guys, these captures are sounding PRIME.