2024 Mahindra Scorpio Long-Term Review: Well, this is awkward...

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    We've spent 3 months with our long-term Mahindra Scorpio (aka Scorpio-N) and it's been a wild ride. Up until ANCAP, Australia's safety body, gave the Scorpio a 0-Star ANCAP safety rating, we were chuffed with the Scorpio. But now, we're just... confused. You see it also scored a 5-star safety rating in the Global NCAP testing program. So is the Mahindra Scorpio unsafe? Is it a bad buy? Well, not everything is as it seems here. Let's talk about that and our long-term review impressions for today's cheap 4x4 review!
    Full Written Review & Safety Deep-Dive here!
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00:00 Intro
    00:01:30 0-Star ANCAP Safety
    00:04:14 Exterior, Price and Specs
    00:06:48 Boot Space and Practicality
    00:08:19 Interior
    00:13:03 Sponsor: WIPERTECH!
    00:13:53 Back Seats
    00:15:00 3rd Row
    00:15:38 Performance Testing! (0-100km/h)
    00:16:36 Driving Impressions
    00:23:00 Final Thoughts
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  • @CarSauce
    @CarSauce  Před 6 měsíci +20

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    • @SunilSinghMr-Monk
      @SunilSinghMr-Monk Před 6 měsíci +2

      There are news in India where Scorpio n front suspension is breaking without any cause and Mahindra is blaming the driver that he was doing 120 km speed. There are multiple bad quality parts in Mahindra cars. Bad engineering bad quality check

    • @blue280485
      @blue280485 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Interesting video 👍
      ❤ Your style
      How is Mahindra Service in Australia?
      Kindly talk about that too

    • @sanjugartan
      @sanjugartan Před 6 měsíci

      Global ncap of uk give 5 star safety rating to this car, Australian ncap give 0 star. What the hell are going on? Are you kidding us? Australian ncap want exit mahindra cars from Australia that's why they gave such bad safety rating to this car.

    • @skgamer-zs6en
      @skgamer-zs6en Před měsícem

      idk about the australian tuned suspension but the indian tuned suspension was so stiff you could feel irregularities on the road which i didnt feel in other cars. plus after test driving the scorpio n i got car sickness.

    • @skgamer-zs6en
      @skgamer-zs6en Před měsícem

      @@sanjugartan just like 2 airbags are standard in india in australia adas is a standard. if an australian or american manufacturer came to india with a car which has no airbags it would get a 0 star rating the blame is on mahindra for not including adas which is clearly a standard like seatbelts or airbags in australia.

  • @casuallyannoyeddriver
    @casuallyannoyeddriver Před 6 měsíci +859

    the problem with "crash prevention" safety tech like ADAS is that in markets like India/nepal they can actually cause more accidents due to the nature of traffic

    • @rajanicn9269
      @rajanicn9269 Před 6 měsíci +77

      But they can make it country specific for markets like australia

    • @Wanboy
      @Wanboy Před 6 měsíci

      @@rajanicn9269no need to buy Scorpio xuv700 is good tooo

    • @TheCashman007
      @TheCashman007 Před 6 měsíci

      yes but that will take about another 3 to 5 years just for the R&D and that will also make the price go up to same as a Japanese and when that happen no one would buy it ! @@rajanicn9269

    • @sanjay59741
      @sanjay59741 Před 6 měsíci +54

      Correct! But then they should not launch the India version abroad. It's a strategic mistake. Period.

    • @mukulsoni6426
      @mukulsoni6426 Před 6 měsíci +13

      No because xuv700 gets this tech

  • @ozspencers
    @ozspencers Před 6 měsíci +497

    The lack of automated 'driver aids' is a big plus for me.

    • @shashankars3632
      @shashankars3632 Před 6 měsíci +23

      Same here. And we have the Scorpio N Z4 Diesel automatic here in India and the traffic here, even the ADAS can't judge itself.

    • @anugranmathimugan2778
      @anugranmathimugan2778 Před 6 měsíci +1

      That's what I thought .

    • @babukrishnan4703
      @babukrishnan4703 Před 6 měsíci +10

      There are safety issues with this machine. Google team bhp Scorpio N accident to know more. Mahindra is not transparent and not performing safety recall

    • @MecTecher
      @MecTecher Před 6 měsíci +1

      Nothing like fighting with the lane keep because it keeps trying to veer you into traffic.

    • @rowanmckeever7347
      @rowanmckeever7347 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Agreed. We have two Volvos, one is MY12 (usually my car) and the other is MY15 (usually my wife’s). I find the newer car’s ’driver aids’ far more intrusive and generally turn some of them off every time.

  • @bafman
    @bafman Před 6 měsíci +339

    Basically that means every car before 2017 is zero stars.

    • @AMLagonda
      @AMLagonda Před 6 měsíci +29

      Almost every car on the road is a 0 stars.....

    • @YasirKhan-nh4iw
      @YasirKhan-nh4iw Před 5 měsíci +3

      ​@@AMLagondaexcept a volvo

    • @parthprasad99
      @parthprasad99 Před 4 měsíci +7

      ​@@YasirKhan-nh4iw Yeah, that's 0.5.

    • @Rav01508
      @Rav01508 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Euro NCAP is widely recognized as one of the strictest and most comprehensive crash test programs. It evaluates the safety performance of vehicles sold in Europe and provides star ratings based on various crash tests and safety features.
      No indian automakers have ratings from strict rating agency Euro NCAP AND ANCAP

    • @dune7824
      @dune7824 Před 3 měsíci

      @@YasirKhan-nh4iw True, Volvo's cause other cars to crash in their desperation to get away from them. Still, repellence is a form of safety.

  • @vmac11k99
    @vmac11k99 Před 6 měsíci +275

    I actually prefer not to have all those gizmos. Nothing is more infuriating than constant chiming of the overspeed, driver alert and fighting with lane keeping assistance. ANCAP rating is there to prevent newcomers getting a slice of the Ford/Toyota market share. Five star rating in my book.

    • @daweigo6851
      @daweigo6851 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Emergency front braking is a very good feature to prevent accidents

    • @jarlnieminen4307
      @jarlnieminen4307 Před 6 měsíci +17

      ​@@daweigo6851that's what you think. It's just as likely to make you face plant your steering wheel because it's bin day.

    • @NAStheNomad
      @NAStheNomad Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@daweigo6851I agree, this is why insurance companies reduce the premium for cars with autonomous braking.

    • @Aviator7477
      @Aviator7477 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Indian cope 😂😂😂

    • @arpanabinaswar1811
      @arpanabinaswar1811 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Aviator7477He is not Indian see his Channel

  • @vxplore
    @vxplore Před 6 měsíci +229

    Who cares about automation.... Considering the budget....It still looks killer machine 🔥🔥🔥🔥👍🏻

    • @babukrishnan4703
      @babukrishnan4703 Před 6 měsíci

      There are safety issues with this machine. Google team bhp Scorpio N accident to know more. Mahindra is not transparent and not performing safety recall. Yes it is a killer machine that kills you

  • @hatespacebar4452
    @hatespacebar4452 Před 6 měsíci +211

    They should have an overall safety rating which includes the accident prevention rating.
    However, they should also include a crash safety rating which doesn't consider the ADAS but only how it protects the passengers.

    • @babukrishnan4703
      @babukrishnan4703 Před 6 měsíci +2

      There are safety issues with this machine. Google team bhp Scorpio N accident to know more. Mahindra is not transparent and not performing safety recall

  • @mindfreeze0838
    @mindfreeze0838 Před 6 měsíci +36

    The problem with the Scorpio's safety rating is because ANCAP needed to make a public spectacle of cars that didnt conform to thier whims, the car's crashworthiness is sound, its not easy to get 5 stars in GNACAP because they actually crash cars to see if the persons inside will make it out in one peice and not on gimmicks like ADAS.

  • @anugranmathimugan2778
    @anugranmathimugan2778 Před 6 měsíci +234

    So basically my mum's 2012 Hyundai Elantra is a zero ancap too lol

    • @CarSauce
      @CarSauce  Před 6 měsíci +60

      If it was tested by todays protocols, probably!

    • @josh3221ify
      @josh3221ify Před 6 měsíci +17

      That would be a -3 rating

    • @indian-jc5bo
      @indian-jc5bo Před 6 měsíci +23

      Basically a tank with no adas is also zero Star

    • @rowanmckeever7347
      @rowanmckeever7347 Před 6 měsíci +7

      As of today-ish, a 2024 Volvo XC60 (among others) has no safety rating purely because it ‘expires’. Always worth reading more into a safety rating like the guys say in the video.

    • @debasisghadai3633
      @debasisghadai3633 Před 6 měsíci +5

      ​@@indian-jc5boit has more issues, not just ADAS.

  • @umaruchan8828
    @umaruchan8828 Před 6 měsíci +92

    One guy in India travelled to UK by road and now he is going to Australia by road with scorpio n disel

    • @indian-jc5bo
      @indian-jc5bo Před 6 měsíci +8

      Currently he is going to Everest base camp by driving his Scorpio n

    • @Chomusuke23
      @Chomusuke23 Před 6 měsíci +9

      And he's also on trip to Australia with the same car!

    • @aruntabing1
      @aruntabing1 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Please share his channel name

    • @Chomusuke23
      @Chomusuke23 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@aruntabing1 Indian Backpacker

    • @aruntabing1
      @aruntabing1 Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@Chomusuke23 thanks mate. We are planning a trip from Perth to Kerala by road.

  • @TrainsandRockets
    @TrainsandRockets Před 6 měsíci +78

    This is an Amzaing Car and worth every penny...And doesn't need Aids for driving and ruin all the fun of driving.
    It is perfectly Safe in an Accident case.
    I would choose it anyday 👍🏻
    ANCAP can go do squats...😂

    • @adwaitsalve6531
      @adwaitsalve6531 Před 6 měsíci +6

      And then loose your Body parts bcuz the whole Wheel Assembly will just dislocate anytime if you will get a Defective car or incase ur Unlucky bcuz of QC issues💀

    • @TrainsandRockets
      @TrainsandRockets Před 6 měsíci +18

      @@adwaitsalve6531
      Nearly 1 million Scorpio is running on Earth that have travelled Billions of kilometres combined.
      I wonder why only one such case came forward? Ooooh... Maybe because he knew some issue was there in wheel some was misaligned or loose yet ! He still went on long tour and tested it at speeds over 120kmph which he said himself and was detected digitally as well.
      If there is something wrong with your vehicle, you either don't drive it or don't take it to high speeds BUT IF YOU DO, YOU ARE PLAIN STUPID.
      If there was a quality issue it would appear randomly in multiple vehicles, but it appeared one in literally in million.
      If you don't understand this simple fact, I wonder which school you went to dude. Don't be a sheep and believe if someone got hurt he must be right always.

    • @Raya8307
      @Raya8307 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Its not one. Thats the one came to social media highlight. There are many cases filled with such incidence. They never gained attention to social media. They just dont have the right quality standards. Well the choice is yours, you wanna save some bucks or concerned more with your family safety.

    • @adwaitsalve6531
      @adwaitsalve6531 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Raya8307 Bro that IDIOT doesn't even own a Scorpio N and is just choosing it🤡🤡....He is bootlicking Mahindra like crazy🤣

    • @Aviator7477
      @Aviator7477 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Indian cope 😂😂

  • @boobeshkumar406
    @boobeshkumar406 Před 6 měsíci +103

    That basically means more than 50 percent of cars in road are 0 stars. if they consider it as a must have, government should made it mandatory today not 2 years later.

    • @shashankars3632
      @shashankars3632 Před 6 měsíci +5

      😂😂true. Adas is sort of a gimmick imo

    • @boobeshkumar406
      @boobeshkumar406 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@babukrishnan4703 bro check the dates of those articles the accident news is amplified because of ancap's 0 star rating. If there are significant number of accident happening or lives lost governments would have involved to block and recall the existing units

    • @debasisghadai3633
      @debasisghadai3633 Před 6 měsíci

      ​​@@boobeshkumar406 one accident happened recently where the customer lost a leg and M&M is now blaming the customer in their statements and refusing to investigate the case after his car got burned(under shady circumstances).

    • @vivsanyt
      @vivsanyt Před 5 měsíci +1

      Ayo..'boob'esh 😂😂

    • @Rav01508
      @Rav01508 Před 4 měsíci

      Euro NCAP is widely recognized as one of the strictest and most comprehensive crash test programs. It evaluates the safety performance of vehicles sold in Europe and provides star ratings based on various crash tests and safety features.
      No indian automakers have ratings from strict rating agency Euro NCAP AND ANCAP

  • @Persian-Immortal
    @Persian-Immortal Před 6 měsíci +59

    so wait, the Chinese car Cherry gets 5 stars of safety for being a death trap.
    And the Scorpio gets zero!

    • @alexrajuabraham2682
      @alexrajuabraham2682 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Agree!

    • @Rav01508
      @Rav01508 Před 4 měsíci

      Euro NCAP is widely recognized as one of the strictest and most comprehensive crash test programs. It evaluates the safety performance of vehicles sold in Europe and provides star ratings based on various crash tests and safety features.
      No indian automakers have ratings from strict rating agency Euro NCAP AND ANCAP

    • @rareliongaming
      @rareliongaming Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@Rav01508Tata Safari, Tata Harrier, Mahindra XUV300, Mahindra XUV700, Tata Punch, Alroz, Nexon therse are the cars with 5 star safety rating in NCAP...

    • @Santiago01050
      @Santiago01050 Před 2 měsíci

      Chery improved the security in their cars, most vehicles from that brand have 5 airbags now and are selling well here in South America.

  • @abirnigam8816
    @abirnigam8816 Před 6 měsíci +44

    Great example of Australia being the up side down place... Global NCAP 5 stars... ANCAP 0 stars 😂😂😂

  • @Wedgetail96
    @Wedgetail96 Před 6 měsíci +13

    ADAS (Arrogant Driver Assistance Systems), for those who are so full of self importance that they think it’s quite ok to update apps and text whilst driving. ANCAP puts far to much emphasis on systems that are ultimately the responsibility of the driver, not the car.

  • @Safeena-xh6sb
    @Safeena-xh6sb Před 6 měsíci +62

    I agree it wont comes with any active safety features like ADAS
    But in case of passsive safety its really nice

    • @DRJHAMI
      @DRJHAMI Před 6 měsíci +1

      The maximum marks that can be obtained for Adas features is 18,
      while BMW M5 has only 14.

    • @nadeeraibrahim1495
      @nadeeraibrahim1495 Před 6 měsíci

      LOL😅😅

    • @oil-gas-energy
      @oil-gas-energy Před 5 měsíci

      Safeena you have good knowledge of cars.😮 Impressive

    • @Rav01508
      @Rav01508 Před 4 měsíci

      Euro NCAP is widely recognized as one of the strictest and most comprehensive crash test programs. It evaluates the safety performance of vehicles sold in Europe and provides star ratings based on various crash tests and safety features.
      No indian automakers have ratings from strict rating agency Euro NCAP AND ANCAP

  • @titanx04
    @titanx04 Před 6 měsíci +13

    My 2010 commodore wagon has zero rating and I’ve survived just fine along with every car I’ve owned prior, driver aids- that’s what you learn to drive for , I survived in a 1976 mini .
    I’d like to see tail lights come on with DRL as people think they do.

  • @SlavStojnic
    @SlavStojnic Před 6 měsíci +6

    BBOOYYYSSSS!!!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR! You guys deserve everything good in this world and to be number one in car reviews.. in my eyes you guys are No 1! Oh FYI you guys are due for a Q&A live lol btw you boys film near me so when can I the OG fan meet you boys??? Thank you for everything you boys do for us

  • @Eccentricplum
    @Eccentricplum Před 6 měsíci +54

    Imagine Mahindra came out with a sport division like how Hyundai have N

    • @CarSauce
      @CarSauce  Před 6 měsíci +18

      That would be sick 🤣

    • @ThulasidharanS
      @ThulasidharanS Před 6 měsíci

      They did. In fact they made a rally version of XUV 500 and it won the championship in India. Google "Super XUV 500"
      czcams.com/video/iIVx57Vodk4/video.htmlsi=wscfOwT6UNvsos20

    • @shashankars3632
      @shashankars3632 Před 6 měsíci

      You can't get to know which speed your doing on the highways unless you get the beep or unless you look at the instrument cluster. It's silently fast. We have done upto 150 in our Z4 Diesel automatic.

    • @manab.baruah
      @manab.baruah Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@babukrishnan4703are you a troll commenting everywhere?

    • @axel3895
      @axel3895 Před 6 měsíci +8

      ​@@babukrishnan4703cyrus mistry one of the richest business men in india, died in a mercedes. He was sitting at the back not even in front. Why dont you spam that everywhere. I know what happened is really bad but you spamming this everywhere seems like a paid troll

  • @benvisagie8844
    @benvisagie8844 Před 6 měsíci +9

    Yes, very good review. I have take. My 3rd row seats out, its a 5 minute job, the the boot is massive. But I only use the 7 seats vey much never. But what a nice economical car for its size and price. And you can go off road. I have towed a 130” kg caravan for 1400 km over 3 days in 35 degrees celcius, what a pleasure, doing 110 kph, fuel consumption 12,7l/100 km. Excellent

    • @johnpostle502
      @johnpostle502 Před 6 měsíci

      What can be done with the massive and intrusive mounting points for the 3rd row seats? They're a real problem for me!
      The poor storage such as a single cupholder and central bin would require a rethink of the cabin
      The zero ANCAP safety rating is a bad joke, especially for such a strong, well-engineered vehicle! The distractions and unreliability of all the mandatory electronic gizmos may well be contributing to the road toll, especially if drivers start relying on them!
      Meanwhile, the Mahindra Pikup is selling new in 2024 without any side bags but scores 3 from ANCAP! Maybe farmer's lives don't matter?
      So many commercial vehicles were allowed to be sold in Australia with only a driver's airbag and no side or head bags.

    • @benvisagie8844
      @benvisagie8844 Před 6 měsíci

      @@johnpostle502 ridiculous. Fortunately jn S Africa we dont have all the regulations and many people rightly so or not is switching off the so called safety things like lane change etc. Maybe its not as safe as the ANCAP people think. And I believe that safety systems that can be switched off because it is no proven safety factor, compared to ABS and airbags who cant be switched off as this is a real built in safety aspects. So how can they rate a car on safety if the systems can be used at will, then it isnt a safety factor…….. they havent made it compulsory.
      The boot isnt flat yes, its however not a problem to me as I normally have quite a load and the flatness of the boot is not playing a role for me.

  • @lukeclifton4392
    @lukeclifton4392 Před 6 měsíci +13

    If people were to follow ANCAP’s current rating system😂 They would be misled into believing many new model vehicles are intrinsically safer than some older higher quality cars, of which some score higher than new cars (for the identical test situations), but loose points for the lack of active driver aids.

  • @abhay53817
    @abhay53817 Před 6 měsíci +65

    This car has no any privacy glass because
    In india tinted glasses are illegal

    • @progyanjyotisarma9751
      @progyanjyotisarma9751 Před 6 měsíci +10

      Privacy glass and tinted glass are two different things

    • @chromewarnock9681
      @chromewarnock9681 Před 6 měsíci

      @@progyanjyotisarma9751 any glass that is not clear is banned

    • @sunitization
      @sunitization Před 6 měsíci +9

      With that logic, al ford car in India should have been left hand drive because they are from american company 😂. Most automaker makes cars based on country specification so its a lame excuse.

    • @chromewarnock9681
      @chromewarnock9681 Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@sunitization a company is not suddenly going to start acquiring or making tint because a small market who might or might not buy your vehicle
      and with 0 star crap i dont even know why mahindra is bothering with australia

    • @sunitization
      @sunitization Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@chromewarnock9681 its not small market. Mahindra is quite popular in Australia.

  • @tundercover81
    @tundercover81 Před 5 měsíci

    Loved the review... Honest, practical & funny... Go Aussie!!!

  • @ChiSa123
    @ChiSa123 Před 5 měsíci +1

    10:58 😂 I agree about the cup holders. My family has an old Scorpio and it has 2 cupholders and 2 small bottle holders in the centre console!😅

  • @NickAllgood
    @NickAllgood Před 6 měsíci +1

    Nice review. Captain's chairs is not new to Australia. In the late 70s I was driving an old Chrysler by Chrysler with a 360 motor and equipped with thick arm rests for both hands for driver and front passenger. When you state Captain Chairs, do you mean it swivels around? My 2010 ten year old Nissan Elgrand Highway Star had those back in 2020. Also RV Motor homes have them. Keep up the great reviews.

  • @sectokia1909
    @sectokia1909 Před 3 měsíci +2

    If ANCAP developed a rating system for hotels, they would decide a hotel gets maximum of zero stars if it doesn't have fast wifi. Thats how random and bizarre their requirements are. So this car is 5 star international, 4 star just a year ago, but now zero star because someone at ANCAP decided auto-mated breaking - which is more likely to make you stop when you want to quickly pull out.

  • @pistolpeds
    @pistolpeds Před 5 měsíci +4

    To me it sounds like Toyota, Ford, Mitsubishi and Isuzu may have had some influence on ANCAP when they found out the selling price. Maybe the Gov't thought they'd get less sales tax too if it was half the price of a Toyota.

  • @mighty_bunny
    @mighty_bunny Před 6 měsíci +12

    I'm really starting to think that maybe a longer version of this could be a good idea to have both the seating capacity and cargo capacity in one. Of course it doesn't really solve the packaging issues with the seats, but I still think there could be interest in it.

    • @DigitalVisitant
      @DigitalVisitant Před 5 měsíci +1

      It already is at nearly 4700mm long, anything bigger will suck as an SUV as longer the wheelbase, worser it's off-roading capability. Maybe it should just ditch the 3rd row and be a 4/5 seater proper SUV.

    • @mighty_bunny
      @mighty_bunny Před 5 měsíci

      @@DigitalVisitant Also agree!

  • @Stevegrande1
    @Stevegrande1 Před 6 měsíci +7

    No different with the rear door if it opens upwards Nissan patrol Y62 or the 300 series cruiser for example, you still have to drive in if you intend loading the cargo area up. Not sure people reporting on these, the tank 300, the Prado with spare wheel on rear door etc, any of them you need to leave space to either open upwards or outwards 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

  • @sirgobbledygook
    @sirgobbledygook Před 6 měsíci +24

    The most well rounded review I have seen so far. I was torn between this and the xuv and the only way I could make up mind would be if I spent enough time with both cars. This video helps a lot.
    Cheers!

    • @babukrishnan4703
      @babukrishnan4703 Před 6 měsíci

      There are safety issues with this machine. Google team bhp Scorpio N accident to know more. Mahindra is not transparent and not performing safety recall

    • @sravans149
      @sravans149 Před 5 měsíci

      Wait what , it couldn’t be simpler
      Putting the price aside
      The XUV is more city focused with a unibody construction ( more sedan like ) , so handles better and the Scorpio is a proper ladder on frame that can handle some off road but with the added downside of worse handling and more body roll

  • @andyh5666
    @andyh5666 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Can't speak for that car but I'm thankful daily for my uncomplicated 2022 BRZ 6sp. No assists, and no nagging - suits me fine.

  • @Sankalp1465
    @Sankalp1465 Před 5 měsíci

    Hey Man, nice to see australian youtubers also reviewing and appreciating Indian cars.
    In addition to that i wanna tell you that there is a youtuber from India with his channel named Indian Backpacker, He is currently on a 3-4 months long trip from all the way India to australia in his indian Scorpio-N (The Scorpio in Australia is said Scorpio-N in India), He has also done a road trip from India to London in the same car. I'll greatly appreciate that if you guys made some content together.
    Love from India

  • @jvbelarmino1052
    @jvbelarmino1052 Před 6 měsíci +1

    the Australian Throttle House!
    So entertaining, and funny guys! 😂

  • @neillh
    @neillh Před 6 měsíci +8

    Thanks for sharing another great review 👍

    • @CarSauce
      @CarSauce  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Thanks for watching!

    • @babukrishnan4703
      @babukrishnan4703 Před 6 měsíci

      There are safety issues with this machine. Google team bhp Scorpio N accident to know more. Mahindra is not transparent and not performing safety recall

  • @CampX4
    @CampX4 Před 5 měsíci +3

    This SUV is magic, I really did not wan't to take the one's I have back , It was like losing a girlfriend, I felt sad to let her go. one of the best entry level 4wd's for the outdoor enthusiast. I will buy one any time. I love this car.

  • @bestWARHOG
    @bestWARHOG Před 6 měsíci +19

    I think they'll launch a redesigned or a facelift version next year to fix their rating issue

    • @bestWARHOG
      @bestWARHOG Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@babukrishnan4703 man i hope they do something about it and don't jeopardize their image in international markets they wish to compete in

    • @Ganju.ghapghap
      @Ganju.ghapghap Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@bestWARHOG he is a troll

  • @Scappa8
    @Scappa8 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I’ve never laughed so hard watching a car review 😂 love your content

  • @mighty_bunny
    @mighty_bunny Před 6 měsíci +2

    My Outback also only has one cup holder in the centre, which is fine, it's a narrow '90s car. But y'know what else it has? A second pop-out cup holder in front of the passenger! You're not at all wrong to complain about this. Do better, Mahindra! Maybe they could do cup holders beneath the outboard air vents like some utes and other SUVs have.

  • @Devbright2009
    @Devbright2009 Před 6 měsíci

    happy new year mate

  • @adoreslaurel
    @adoreslaurel Před 3 měsíci +2

    And it does have a proper emergency brake, unlike others which have that el cheapo EPB.

  • @prayagmishra3537
    @prayagmishra3537 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Lots of love brothers keep growing 😊 . Let reach 100k🥳

  • @bigmatty50
    @bigmatty50 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Matt. I'm 51 years old and have been licenced since just after my 18th birthday. We put too much reliance on safety tech and take away the responsibility we have as drivers. My first car was a 1970 HT kingswood, all wheel drum brakes and 3 on the tree manual. I'm still alive. I care more about crash tests than I do about what safety tech a car has. Recently the road toll is increasing, yet cars have more tech. People have forgotten how to actually drive a car.

  • @marty4933
    @marty4933 Před 6 měsíci +5

    This “wrap them up in cottonwool” thinking also put us in lockdowns for our own protection. I prefer fewer autonomous safety features as they themselves become the distracting force when driving.

  • @garyanderson-smith9049
    @garyanderson-smith9049 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Well I am excited because hopefully a S/HScopio will drop dramatically in value and I can find one at a GOOD price😂

  • @vikramrao6391
    @vikramrao6391 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Personally I feel while launching a new product Mahindra should have future proofed the car. A zero rating looks really bad, they knew at the time of launch that they snuck it in just before rules changed. I hope they fix it soon.

  • @aloknjobi9539
    @aloknjobi9539 Před 6 měsíci +7

    So basically my 2013 SsangYong Rexton is a zero ancap too dang it

  • @kindofanmol
    @kindofanmol Před 6 měsíci +27

    It got 5 Stars on the Global NCAP which is like the de-facto safety standard globally. That's all that should matter imo.

    • @SaintKimbo
      @SaintKimbo Před 6 měsíci +5

      Agreed, get rid of ANCAP, we don't build cars here anymore, the testing programs in other countries are more than sufficient.
      It's a huge waste of taxpayers money, only continued because of ego and self importance, as if we know more about safety than others.

    • @debasisghadai3633
      @debasisghadai3633 Před 6 měsíci

      ANCAP is a lot better than GNCAP. In fact, all local NCAPS are better than GNCAP.

    • @SaintKimbo
      @SaintKimbo Před 6 měsíci

      @@debasisghadai3633
      So what?
      ANCAP already just copies and pastes Euro NCAP data for cars that they can't test themselves, they may as well use it and other crash testing NCAPS, instead of sucking up $16 million dollars of taxpayers money over the next 5 years.
      The average cost per test is $780,000, which is paid by the manufacturer who, naturally, passes that cost on to the consumer.
      Why, because we're 'Strayans, we can't trust those bloody foreigners to get anything right, can we, Mate?

  • @waynebuckley6633
    @waynebuckley6633 Před 6 měsíci +19

    I would buy one. in my case i would take the back back seat out and get a modification plate, 4 bolts i am told. Next cheaper is the Tank and I would pick Mahindra over that as I think the Tanks are more unsafe under braking.

    • @adwaitsalve6531
      @adwaitsalve6531 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Dont buy it.....Did you know about the incident where a Scorpio N Owner LOST his RIGHT LEG bcuz the whole left WHEEL ASSEMBLY came off on the Expressway due to Quality Control issues??💀💀

    • @waynebuckley6633
      @waynebuckley6633 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@adwaitsalve6531 no, i didn't hear that, i did have similar happen with a falcon less than 6 years old though.

    • @titanx04
      @titanx04 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@adwaitsalve6531did you see it in r hear about it ? How many has it happened too?

    • @ind-rishiyt1600
      @ind-rishiyt1600 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@waynebuckley6633you didn't hear it because it didn't happen 😂😂

    • @reinventthewheel8364
      @reinventthewheel8364 Před 6 měsíci +7

      ​@@adwaitsalve6531You're commenting same thing on every comment section. What's the issue? 😅

  • @Ganju.ghapghap
    @Ganju.ghapghap Před 6 měsíci +1

    i am a mhindra fan recently got mahindra in india and saw mahindra in shopping center here in aus....its a beast in its category...

  • @TK-hp2qo
    @TK-hp2qo Před 5 měsíci +1

    ANCAP ratings would help set guidelines for almost all manufacturers to ensure their car passes them on almost majority of the parameters this would be taken care of specially when you are trying to make inroads in a country/market. I understand the rationale behind changing goal posts(somewhat necessary as well) but what I am surprised about is the lack of communication between the manufacturer and the agency. Also mapping a car zero stars because it faults on a set of parameters requires a deeper analysis and further study. My personal understanding of the situation is that for a car to score a zero stars is because the car is absolutely a safety hazard which isnt the case here and hence ANCAP ratings are biased towards few manufacturers.

  • @TheBoomsonic
    @TheBoomsonic Před 6 měsíci

    17:31 - Apollo Apterra Tyres at the back and MRF Wanderer at the front. Haha.

  • @CarSauce
    @CarSauce  Před 6 měsíci +19

    This was a really interesting long-term review for us... 😅 what do you think of the Mahindra Scorpio?
    Here's the complete article and safety deep-dive:
    www.carsauce.com/car-review/2024-mahindra-scorpio-long-term-review

    • @vedantdeshpande571
      @vedantdeshpande571 Před 5 měsíci

      Mahindra cars best product is Bolero ....If you morden man you might not like it but in india that's best goddamn car for driving without care

  • @AashraiRavooru
    @AashraiRavooru Před 5 měsíci

    The red color is such a banger, looks amazing

  • @gazzachampas8058
    @gazzachampas8058 Před 4 měsíci

    Hi Matt and Jacob.
    When are you going to review the LDV D90
    Thanks Gary

  • @discoverkenya
    @discoverkenya Před 6 měsíci +2

    Renault Zoe has a zero star Euro NCAP rating. It was all assistant, nanny tech, the model before got 5 stars. It’s not worse, it’s that the perimeters changed.

  • @VIJAYBVERMA
    @VIJAYBVERMA Před 5 měsíci +1

    If further modernized, this may potentially rival the XUV 700. When the Scorpio was initially introduced in India in 2002, it stood as Mahindra's premier SUV offering. However, with the advent of the XUV 500 (previous generation of XUV 700), it carved its own niche in the market. Unless Mahindra can establish a clearer distinction between the two, they might prefer maintaining the current positioning.

  • @mattmacleod7212
    @mattmacleod7212 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Did the Apple CarPlay and instrument cluster perform well?
    Read on some forums that it was unreliable.

  • @Rav01508
    @Rav01508 Před 4 měsíci

    Euro NCAP is widely recognized as one of the strictest and most comprehensive crash test programs. It evaluates the safety performance of vehicles sold in Europe and provides star ratings based on various crash tests and safety features.
    No indian automakers have ratings from strict rating agency Euro NCAP AND ANCAP

  • @Pyjamarama11
    @Pyjamarama11 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I buy a car to drive it
    Not to be told by the car how to drive it
    I'm loving my Scorpio
    The single cup holder that every motoring journo whines about, was fixed with a $10 eBay purchase
    Oh and you forgot to mention, Guiness World record for fastest crossing of the Simpson Desert

  • @pauldoitcheap4343
    @pauldoitcheap4343 Před 6 měsíci

    I have trouble choosing a car because too many have not made the effort to put the column stalks the right way around for right hand drive. Can some one make this uniform for car makers to get their vehicles into this country, accident do happen when your attention is not on the road and steering the vehicle. Arm rests were in the cars before your time and so was the go pedal.

  • @asc-adfrica
    @asc-adfrica Před 4 měsíci

    My Mahindra Scorpio N (5 months old) has just been towed into Centurion Service Centre. It died on the Highway. Roadside Assist App didn't work. 9th time that the car has gone back to the dealership in 3 months currently 268 hours at the dealership.

  • @ex-muslimraj8652
    @ex-muslimraj8652 Před 6 měsíci +6

    😂well, there's something inf4ont of me....WHAT DO I DO?!?!?!? (Australian crashes for the lack of ADAS) (Indian presses slightly on the brake and avoids the obstacle and goes on with their life)

  • @aditya11589
    @aditya11589 Před 6 měsíci +3

    The crash prevention tech in my previous Honda Civic (emergency brakes) and current Stinger's (Lane assist) have almost gotten me into near accidents. I keep my lane assist off because it's so intrusive. Anyways I do think people should have the option to have it, I guess.

    • @gregnagy7569
      @gregnagy7569 Před 6 měsíci

      *brakes.....

    • @cthorno2991
      @cthorno2991 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I took a tank 300 for a test drive and the lane keep assist could have broken my thumbs with the violent way it works. I also drove an xc90 and the way it will brake when either reversing or crossing traffic from detecting cars that are pretty far away is so annoying. So with all this autonomous garbage on cars, driving tests should basically be made obsolete. Licenses for everyone!!!

    • @Rav01508
      @Rav01508 Před 4 měsíci

      Euro NCAP is widely recognized as one of the strictest and most comprehensive crash test programs. It evaluates the safety performance of vehicles sold in Europe and provides star ratings based on various crash tests and safety features.
      No indian automakers have ratings from strict rating agency Euro NCAP AND ANCAP

  • @TheQleon
    @TheQleon Před 6 měsíci +2

    Australia is well known to be a nanny state where everything is over regulated, so if you guys want to drive in autonomous bubble wrapped vehicles it's your prerogative. Vehicles are not only practical, functional and safe, they also evoke emotion and feelings. No one remembers how good safety features were, we remember how the vehicle performed and made you feel. I don't understand how you can develop your own safety rating that gives a vehicle 0 stars compared to the 5 stars of the global rating. Who are you kowtowing to....Chinese, Japanese, insurance companies, etc😂

  • @Wedgetail96
    @Wedgetail96 Před 6 měsíci +4

    So basically it doesn’t have stuff for idiots who’d rather update Facebook, or text, then concentrate on driving. Oh that and the ‘can you get out if it ends up under water’ test? Seriously, ANCAP have completely lost the plot. If it’s structurally designed to protect the occupants, ABS, Stability Control, traction control, effective airbags, and how about roll over (which I understand ANCAP don’t even bother testing), then great.

  • @sanatandharma4435
    @sanatandharma4435 Před 6 měsíci +2

    My ten year old Grand Scenic does not have some of this ANCAP s'tuff' nor does my Piaggio scooter!!!! And we won't talk about my four Landrover series III's that basically smash anything that they hit!!!!!

  • @dibyaranjanojha5757
    @dibyaranjanojha5757 Před 6 měsíci +2

    ANCAP is pretty much biased. Earlier they rate inferior cars as 5 stars, you may check. Also I request ANCAP to collide their 5 star rated car with the scorpio N and evaluate again.😂

  • @PetronasBoyy
    @PetronasBoyy Před 6 měsíci +2

    So now that u have visited India, u must be aware of the fact that Indian Roads are Savage. The ADAS systems are useless here. My friend almost got rear ended because his Honda City which has ADAS braked Hard on it's own as a response to bump on the road. I just wanna say that these cars are made keeping Indian Market in Mind. Even the cruise controls, forget adaptive, Even on Highways the car keeps going from 100 - 10 kmps to 100 again thanks to traffic and maniacs. Lastly the Cup holders. Indian Roads are so trash, a coffee cannot survive without spilling, cup holders are basically key or small things storage space here in India. Btw love your videos.

  • @user-ju9xr4yv2i
    @user-ju9xr4yv2i Před 5 měsíci

    Hi All, I bought a Scorpio-N 4xplor in September - the vin indicates made in January 2023. It has a loose steering issue which Mahindra SA is busy investigating. I spoke to another person with the same problem and their Scorpio-N was also made in January 2023. Are there any members here who have a similar issue and their vin number starts with MA1TK4YTTP6A With the 10th letter P indicating the year 2023 and the 12th letter A the month. It is a feeling of a loose component on the steering while traveling at low speeds over rough terrain. Could you please comment if you have a vehicle with the same problem and vin?

  • @belcopride
    @belcopride Před 6 měsíci +1

    Did Mahindra pay for your flights to India? Did you buy the car or is it on loan?

  • @fishingwiththomas
    @fishingwiththomas Před 6 měsíci +2

    I turn heaps of stuff off in my MG4 everytime I drive it. Don't have that issue in my 41 year old Land Rover.

  • @bharathms5560
    @bharathms5560 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Even today, wait period for this car in India is atleast 1 year. It is one of the most popular and safest SUV in India.
    I think they should take average and give rating. 5 star on crash test and 0 star on automatic safety. Average should be 2.5. 😕

  • @GauravSingh-nz7hi
    @GauravSingh-nz7hi Před 6 měsíci +1

    Bro how do you manage to get the cars for the long term review , Through dealers or via the Company itself or from some friends etc.

    • @CarSauce
      @CarSauce  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Mahindra Press Team in Australia 😊

  • @crazyyoutuber5415
    @crazyyoutuber5415 Před 5 měsíci

    Overall a good car but would have been better if they had an option to include ADAS as well for the people who needs it.

  • @yashjoshi25
    @yashjoshi25 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Yeah, in Australian perspective, it has 0 star, but in Global Perspective, it has 5. But i think, you shouldn't bother with that, Think what Australia needs, Coz this thing designed for India. But if you're off-road enthusiastic, & drive responsibly like your father, you want this Vehicle no matter what.

  • @abhinashkumar3161
    @abhinashkumar3161 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Red colour looks really cool ,so unexpected

  • @salomonjose9456
    @salomonjose9456 Před 6 měsíci +3

    cmon guys...the whole cow thing is a north indian hindu thing. India is one of the biggest exporters of leather and cow hydes. Many south indians and hindus in Kerala consume beef and pork. I hate that this steriotype exists. there are religios people who woul like others to think India is all about cows, but for many its just a cattle. Its just one way political parties in india get their votes(by asking people from other casts and religion to not eat beef). AS AN iNDIAN i wanted to clear the air about this topic.

  • @brabus4635
    @brabus4635 Před 6 měsíci +1

    In india you can also get in 2 litre turbo petrol the same engine as in xuv700

  • @RemusKingOfRome
    @RemusKingOfRome Před 6 měsíci

    I'm waiting for the 4Wd Van. Swivel Captain chairs.

  • @ShivamSharma-fx9my
    @ShivamSharma-fx9my Před 6 měsíci

    Love to watch your videos specially of indian cars❤

  • @spotty1666
    @spotty1666 Před 6 měsíci +24

    Thanks for the honest review here.
    Been contemplating one of these or a Tank 300 and seems like the tank might be the better option.

    • @andyh5666
      @andyh5666 Před 6 měsíci +9

      I've got the tank, petrol - ultra. I had no great expectations but must admit it has surprised me on the upside. Very capable and comfortable vehicle..

    • @CarSauce
      @CarSauce  Před 6 měsíci +5

      Thank you! Goodluck for whichever you choose, both are awesome 😊

    • @spotty1666
      @spotty1666 Před 6 měsíci

      @@andyh5666 Have you had any issues with the hands free microphone?

    • @andyh5666
      @andyh5666 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@spotty1666 Funnily yes. mostly google misundersanding me at times.

    • @adwaitsalve6531
      @adwaitsalve6531 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Do you know about the incident where a Scorpio N Owner LOST his RIGHT LEG bcuz the whole left WHEEL ASSEMBLY came off on the Expressway due to Quality Control issues??💀💀

  • @astutesa
    @astutesa Před 6 měsíci +6

    So essentially if Mahindra vehicles keep the driver and occupants safe in the unfortunate event of a crash, that is not enough or right and Mahindra needs to think about the idiot crossing the road in traffic or the chump who crashed in from the opposite end too... Wow this exactly that woke kind of thing isn't it. 🤔

    • @babukrishnan4703
      @babukrishnan4703 Před 6 měsíci

      There are safety issues with this machine. Google team bhp Scorpio N accident to know more. Mahindra is not transparent and not performing safety recall

    • @pritampawar-xz8gl
      @pritampawar-xz8gl Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@babukrishnan4703there are no issues with machine stupid , you don't own one to know

  • @craignorris126
    @craignorris126 Před 6 měsíci

    Is that the OEM Mahindra crossbars on the roof rails?

  • @adamclarke1105
    @adamclarke1105 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I hate adaptive cruise and lane assist. I turn them off as soon as I can

  • @premraj2817
    @premraj2817 Před 4 měsíci +1

    What star rating did Lady DI merc have??? I think it all depends on the way the crash takes place!!! Sometimes some people just get unlucky. When u fly a Boeing 777 till u land , its ur own risk!😊 good review anyway!

  • @babeyoulove1883
    @babeyoulove1883 Před 6 měsíci +4

    We checked out this car, and the big problem for me is the third-row seats and how they're designed. It's like they were added as an afterthought and doesn't really vibe well with the rest of the car.

    • @rahulpatti1288
      @rahulpatti1288 Před 6 měsíci +3

      It’s best to just get the third row removed if it’s not needed

    • @babeyoulove1883
      @babeyoulove1883 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@rahulpatti1288 We took that into account. The primary concern arises when we need to utilize our car for transporting items, and even the second row poses challenges. The manufacturer has fallen short in the realm of interior ergonomics. Despite its overall brilliance, the interior is a notable drawback. The design near the driver's front row is excellent, but having just one cupholder seems like an oversight. If they had reworked the interior, including the seat setup and folding mechanism, this car could have enjoyed greater sales success.

    • @vintagetintrader1062
      @vintagetintrader1062 Před 6 měsíci

      Totally agree, as a family of 4, the rear seat takes up way too much space, very hard to pack for family trips with luggage, the XUV700 has a way better systems

    • @ianweal3081
      @ianweal3081 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@vintagetintrader1062you have 4 comfortable seats, pull the third row out and be content, duh!
      Plenty of room.
      Here's another tip for free, put a small consul fridge in between rear seat, kids enjoy cold drinks and eats.

    • @Rav01508
      @Rav01508 Před 4 měsíci

      Euro NCAP is widely recognized as one of the strictest and most comprehensive crash test programs. It evaluates the safety performance of vehicles sold in Europe and provides star ratings based on various crash tests and safety features.
      No indian automakers have ratings from strict rating agency Euro NCAP AND ANCAP

  • @sumitron2k
    @sumitron2k Před 6 měsíci

    pretty sure fca had something to do with this and probably removed 1-2 stars it would have gotten without active protection.

  • @iRazanparkar
    @iRazanparkar Před 6 měsíci

    at 20:21 the camoflaged car in front of the thar is it me or its looking like a bigger scorpio???

  • @DevonReclaimed
    @DevonReclaimed Před měsícem

    Gotta love the Vegan interior! ❤️

  • @sg5555
    @sg5555 Před 6 měsíci

    There a is a weird noise comes when releasing the accelerator pedal at more than 80km/hour speed in z8l auto diesel. If any one is getting this please share your thoughts

  • @wesleymcdougall8207
    @wesleymcdougall8207 Před 6 měsíci

    If you don't set the high standards with ANCAP, the market is eventually force the rise to meet them. If you don't, they are happy to under perform.

  • @ROHIT690THAKUR
    @ROHIT690THAKUR Před 6 měsíci

    That means almost all cars on the road before 2018 are 0 stars.
    22:13 Did he say front of the car is too strong? Is that why the car transfers crash force onto its occupants?
    Wow didn't know making cars 'too strong' is also an issue.

  • @mukulsoni6426
    @mukulsoni6426 Před 6 měsíci +1

    @Indianbackpacker is coming to Australia with his mafia Scorpio N

  • @stendecstretcher5678
    @stendecstretcher5678 Před 6 měsíci +8

    If they put the safety tech on then yes. Although ANCRAP is not to be trusted just ask JC.

    • @jalexrosh
      @jalexrosh Před 6 měsíci

      Or better ask the owner in India who lost his leg after the car's wheel fell off

  • @andakara27
    @andakara27 Před 6 měsíci +2

    The fact that the engineers talk about their car for hours it means they put their heart and souls with the product, favorably it might turns up to be a good product
    Compare to any Chinese car, they always talk about how cheap they can produce it and their plan to sale their car in millions, i bet my hair on it its gonna be a bad product.

  • @pablom7060
    @pablom7060 Před 6 měsíci +2

    One only needs to look at the current road toll and accident reports which highlight the failure to the DRIVER's not paying attention or actually driving the car correctly. Relying on Nanny State electronics to warn a driver to drive safely or within the boundaries is a prop for idiots

  • @dancopper2023
    @dancopper2023 Před 5 měsíci +1

    jaguar, range rover, already indian brand, this car is our beginning wait and see

  • @nathiolifant6842
    @nathiolifant6842 Před 6 měsíci +2

    If you are talking about an AISEN transmission that's a Toyota company transmission which is bloody good.

    • @johnpostle502
      @johnpostle502 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Aisin 6 speed fitted to many cars and utes including Toyota

    • @nathiolifant6842
      @nathiolifant6842 Před 6 měsíci

      @@johnpostle502 my point exactly

  • @vignesh2304
    @vignesh2304 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I still dont understand how austrialian calling this unsafe. Kindly check some accidents videos of scorpio and u will know how safe Mahindra built cars are. The only issue is it lacks automatic breaking system

    • @jalexrosh
      @jalexrosh Před 6 měsíci

      Like the one from Pune where the car's wheel says bye bye on a smooth highway and the driver loses his leg??

    • @vignesh2304
      @vignesh2304 Před 5 měsíci

      @@jalexrosh that was a sharp metal barricade. Only bullet proof vechiles can standy by that kind of object. Mostly all 5 star car will fail.

    • @Rav01508
      @Rav01508 Před 4 měsíci

      Euro NCAP is widely recognized as one of the strictest and most comprehensive crash test programs. It evaluates the safety performance of vehicles sold in Europe and provides star ratings based on various crash tests and safety features.
      No indian automakers have ratings from strict rating agency Euro NCAP AND ANCAP

    • @vignesh2304
      @vignesh2304 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Rav01508 most of the euro cap rated car are in India. None match safety comfort when comes to Tata and Mahindra. You have many live accident footages of Volkswagen and Mahindra. Just check it

    • @Rav01508
      @Rav01508 Před 4 měsíci

      @@vignesh2304 yet none indian cars sold in highend markets like in north america europe east asia australia middle east? Why no one wants to buy it? 0 indian cars in tested in EURO NCAP AND ANCAP.... mahindra did the ANCAP TEST AND GOT 0 STAR

  • @mrme982007
    @mrme982007 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The Ancap star rating based on crash prevention is nonsense. What I as a consumer wants to know is “are my children safe when I drive into a tree” and to be honest, in this thing, no they aren’t. BUT I wouldn’t buy a family car with a 3 star rating. (I actually wouldn’t buy one without aeb, but thats beside the point) I want to know is how does it crash? Not can it avoid one.