Plunge Base Router to Router Lift with the Router Raizer
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2020
- Save money and instead of buying a dedicated router lift, turn your plunge base router into a router lift with this 'Router Raizer' add on.
This add on works for numerous plunge base routers. NOTE: if you have a different model of plunge base router DO NOT FOLLOW THIS GUIDE EXACTLY, look at the instructions as the procedure may differ between different plunge base routers.
Check the manufactures site for a list of compatible routers:
www.routertechnologies.com
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For those who don't want to install a purpose made router lift there is an easier way, you still get the precision lift and its so easy too. All I did was install an old scissor lift car jack on the shelf under the router. To raise or lower just turn the crank shaft receptacle by hand. The load is so light compared with a heavy vehicle that you can turn it easily without the crank shaft. Bolt or screw the jack in position and turn the jack slightly offset so it isn't sticking out to your belly button. This method guarantees the router won't move down either so its rock solid in any position. My router always moves back down when I back off on the jack because it is spring loaded plunging model.
I have done this modification to a big Porter Cable 2.5 hp plunge router 2 years ago and I am completely satisfied with the result. Works great with the Kreg base I using.
I've been looking for something like this forever and just learned about this product a few days ago. This saves me from replacing my router table and router to accommodate a router lift. I already ordered mine with a collet extension that should will arrive in a few days, and I'm glad to have found this video to walk me through the set up. Thank you!
Glad you found this video helpful!
This was the perfect video to let me know I could make serious use of this product... Really well done!
Awesome! Thanks! Glad you got some value out of it.
I know this is 3 years old, but I just followed your video while I installed the RZ100, It was a breeze, I watched you do section, then I followed, done in no time. Thanks for posting!
Awesome! I'm glad it helped!
Thank man, I was just looking to buy a lift and a new router, because this model cant work with a table. This changes everything. Thank you so much. Saved me a lot of cash.
That's awesome! I'm glad this video was helpful for ya! :)
This is a wonderful video. I have the same problem with my router, and after seeing your solution, I may buy those or similar products. But what’s even better is the quality of your video. Kudos to you. Your narration isn’t too lengthy or over bearing like some you tubers; your presentation was excellent and well spoken. In addition, your editing was spot on, with speed ups at the right times. I’ve seen hundreds of videos on CZcams, and videos with your quality are rare to come by.
Thanks so much! That's what I'm aiming for as I appreciate videos that are straight and to the point myself. Thanks for watchin!
Very well done. A concise but thorough explanation and demonstration of what looks to be a very useful product.
Thank you.
Thanks for your kind comment! I'm glad you found the video helpful.
I have one of these DW625E,its been in a box for years,its too heavy to use comfortably.
Tbh,i have bought a Makita DTR50 and routing has become something i look forward too
I love your video and if i ever need to use a big router this is the way to go
Thank you for sharing 😊
Ordered mine from rockler and the the Extreme extender and t-handle wrench from amazon ! the raiser is coming tomorrow , can't wait to install it .Your video was extremely helpful and you made it look very easy .Thank you so much -will post my results after tomorrow's install on my Ryobi 3 1/2 hp plunge router - Fred
Great video, liked the way you laid everything out and gave a straight to the point explanation 👍
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful!
That is so cool. Glad this came up in my feed.
Awesome! Glad you liked it!
Thank you for this video. I have an older Ryobi and it is listed as one of the routers it fits. Perfectly done and very well explained.
Awesome! Glad it was helpful for you!
Well done. That price is nice too. Love seeing something assembled. I have a miserable time with printed instructions. Thanks I'll look into this.
Totally! I wish every company would do video instructions as well as printed. Thanks for watchin!
OMG! You are fantastic! I have a ELU MOF177E, served me well for decades! But you just solved my decades old problem, Thank you!
Right on! This add-on is a game changer, I've been using it regularly since publishing the video and it's been working like a dream. Thanks for watching and commenting!
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Glad to hear that, but you honestly will never appreciate just how much you helped me by posting this video.
It's been such a great router and still is, they just don't make them like that anymore, and now i won't moan about using it in my table.
Thanks again.
Hi. Watch this video only now. You have to work as a teacher. For this was the clearest instructional video I have seen. Excuse the spelling. Many greetings from Sweden.
Wow, thank you so much for your kind words! Your comment is super encouraging!
Great demonstration video, thanks. It's hard to find clear non-show off, clearly shown and explained videos. I have the same model Elu router that I intend to put in my (yet to be made) router table, so that was an added bonus. Just need to get the lifting gear now and I am looking forward to not having to fiddle around under the table. Can't wait.
Glad you found the video helpful!
Thanks for posting such an indepth video on how easy their system is to install. Found one on Amazon for $231.00 but will keep looking and You might think of sending this to their company as a How To for their viewers....
Amazon seems to be in and out of stock lately for a reasonable price. Check Rockler.com if you're in the states. They usually have them for $110.
That's a great idea, I'll hit them up! 👍
I've had one of these for years. Works great!
It's such a great upgrade!
Great step-by-step instruction. Thanks. Enjoyed it.
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome. I have a Dewalt 625E so will be looking to purchase a kit and extension. Very detailed instructions too. Thank you for this
I have the same router too. But I am not sure if it will fit to the 625e model. Were you able to install it?
Excellent informative video; have the same questions as you had so now going to look into the Router Raizer option. Many thanks indeed.
Awesome! Glad you found the video useful!
Very nicely done video in clearly walking us through the assembly steps and your ideas for improved assembly. I had earlier read through the instructions with the many parts needed for each step and I was concerned about making a mistake during the assembly process. I stepped through your video on my iPad as I went through the assembly process and it made it so much easier. My kit didn't come with item #46, the locating pin so I ended up using the template instead.
I'm so glad you found the video helpful!
I really liked the excellent step by step you did. You really should have been paid to do your review.
Thanks for the review, I have a Dewalt 625, I might have to get both accessories for it!
Do it! I've been super glad I did the upgrades. Thanks for watching!
That right there in my eyes is the Rolls Royce of routers. Loved using mine, gave me many many years of service before it died.
I agree! Such a solid router. Didn't know how good it was when I bought it used but so extra glad to have it now.
I'm used to larger, corded routers czcams.com/users/postUgkxfQ5_mgwq6PcudJvAH25t-I4D-3cTPz4z so this was a different experience for me. Basically, this is an incredibly sweet machine, fits well in the hand, etc. It has slightly less power than I'm used to, but that's understandable. Maneuvering freehand takes some practice. These days, it's especially nice to be able to avoid power cords. This is above the level of a hobbyist but below a pro level.
What an Excellent presentation.
Thank you
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
Great video. My Triton router just ran a bearing so I'm going to adapt my AEG router with a top lift.
Hard to imagine that routers could ever be that simple to use! lol. Cheers!
No kidding! I wish that piece came standard with all plunge routers. So handy!
Excellent video, thank you for taking the time to make it
Awesome! Glad you found it valuable. Thanks for watchin!
Thank you so much for posted this video. What a life (time) saver. I have a rebel router table and this is the only lift that will work. ❤️
Awesome! Glad it helped!
Excellent video and process. Thank you so much for sharing...
Glad it was helpful, and thanks for your kind comment! Cheers!
Excellent tutorial
Thanks! I hope you found it helpful!
Thank you for the good video. I installed one on a Porter Cable 7539 & Rebel router table. Was fun to do and it works well. HOWEVER, WATCH OUT for the little dust button (Dust cover #31)! Don't leave it on the router table out of its socket. It's about the size of a button battery and can drop easily into the router motor. It happened to me without me knowing it... I noticed it missing and, before turning on the router, scoured the area around the router hoping it would be somewhere other than where I dreaded it might be. Finally took the router apart and fished it out. Now, when I make a height adjustment, it goes into its own receptacle - no matter what...
Very helpful video. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
It looks good, excellent documentation and video.
Two tips:
1) After setting the depth, use the original lock to avoid the depth changing through vibration. Ask how I know.....
2) Enlarge the hole in the acrylic plate to be able to use bigger cutters, same size as the hole in the original baseplate
How did you find out you needed to use the lock?
I bought the RouterRazor and the Xtender four years ago and installed it with my Freud 2000. I LOVE IT! The balance between the quality, function and price absolutely makes the two tools excellent value. My two gripes are more like adjustments for my use. First the hex socket for the elevating rod faces up on the table. Included is a little rubber plug. If you don't put the plug back in after each adjustment the socket quickly fills with sawdust. Then you can't insert the elevator crank handle in the socket for the next adjustment. The little plug is hard to keep track of. I have shop air at my router table so I automatically give it a puff before I make the next adjustment. Second, when installing or changing a bitt the hex key used to tighten\loosen the bitt in the Xtender is very akward to insert in it's recess, then you can only turn it less than half a turn before your hex key hits the table top. I bought a tee handle ball tip extended hex wrench. Poof, it goes right in, it's off the table and I can turn it easily with ample force. I'm delighted with both these tools and support from Bob the developer was just excellent. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND BOTH THE RAZOR AND THE XTENDER.
It really is a great upgrade but not without a few drawbacks. I've got some improvements on it I'll be making a video about in the near future. Keep an eye out for that if you're interested :)
And thanks for watchin'!
Thankyou for the tips and video
You bet! Glad you found the video helpful!
Glad I subbed cus this is on my list of things to do (eventually) 😅
That was very nice information. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Well this helped me out a lot.
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
This great. Thanks for sharing
Great vid. Am looking to adapt this concept to my Ryobi Re180PL Not seeing a listing for my router so I'll try and reach out to this company to get there input.
Like the T-rule, gonna chk that out as well. Thanks for the tips
this looks absolutely perfect, thank you for the video! subscribing now lol
I'm glad you found it helpful! Thanks for subscribing!
Thumbs up I just installed my router raiser today for my plunge router works great after tweaking it
Great to hear! Just out of curiosity, what tweaks were needed?
I am going to be so happy if this kit fits my router. I am going to go to my shop in the morning to check model numbers for compatibility.
Did it end up fitting your router? Hope so!
Also, check out my latest video if an electronic router lift is of any interest to you.
Thanks for watchin!
Thank you very much for this super helful video. Love the way you do the edit!
You're very welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
Dear Sir, I’ve been looking for exactly this for years. I didn’t want to spend $1,000~$1,250 on a round body router + router lift and your option seems great. The combination of Router Razer, Chuck extension and collet handles comes in way under that at ~$150.00 AUS. Thanks a million.
Awesome! Glad to hear you found the video useful 👍🏼
great video. thanks for the step by step install help.
Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks Bro.... This saved the day for me!!!!
Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watchin!
Very good
Brilliant i was wondering how or if I could get a router razer
Thank you for posting this video!!!!!!!
You bet! Thanks for letting me know you liked it! :)
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I wondered if you needed this springs both before and after.
To adjust my router I removed the adjusting nut. I then heated up a piece of 3/4" pvc about 10" long and pressed it onto the adjustment nut. Let it cool. Thread the nut on the end of the PVC back onto the router. The PVC hangs low enough to twist by hand and I can make micro adjustments from the bottom of the router table. Total cost $1.28. I added a hole to my router table so that the router can be pulled out of the table and set down to change bits. The PVC fits into the hole of the router table.
Really Helpfull!
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks so much for sharing 👍👍👍👍
My pleasure! Glad you found it useful!
Thank you!
You bet! Glad you found the video useful!
Brilliant video cheers bud
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watchin!
Holy shit my dude, extremely helpful
Awesome! Glad to hear it!
I have one of these that I installed on my old Hitachi M12v years ago. It works very well. Threre are more expensive ones out there, but they don't do much more than raise the router and don't work with as many routers as the Router Raizer does.
Absolutely! I wasn't sure what quality and operation to expected before ordering it, but I'm quite happy with it.
I didn't know I could buy that part for the unge router so cheaply bro.. Thanks very much for the help and information.. It's very much appreciated BTW..
I only bought me a cheap router the other day. I ain't gonna lie man. THEY'RE MESSY AS FOOK. LMAO..
I love that I can put this router and build it into the table saw I'll be building in a few weeks or my workshop.. Thanks again man.. U do great work. I bet u just dug a helluva lotta people out of a hole with this brilliant video..
Awesome! Glad you found the video helpful!
Yeah, routers sure can make a mess 😄
A router in the wing of a table saw is clutch! Best of luck on your build!
VERY GOOD VIDEO
Thank you very much!
Very nice! 👍🏼 👍🏼
Thank you! Cheers!
WOW! It's very rare to see a parts diagram with full size drawings - I wish many more manufacturers did that!
Totally! So helpful in the assembly process!
great video! excellent work =) Router Raizer not cheap in Canada :(
Still a lot cheaper than a Jepson router lift, and it will fit almost any plunge router.
You have given the Elu a brilliant a new lease of life. That and the Dewalt, and trend model also the Fein model are the best plunge routers. There is hardly any play on the pillars if any. The best is the festool of2200, for play and locking of. Plus there is more than one bearing taking the strain of the cut. The dust extraction is the best. But with the Elu model use the dust collector under the table as well as above. That really catches the dust. Get a splitter for the dust hose. Don't worry about the opening in the dust cover being 50mm. That is the biggest sizefor this router. Do not go bigger. The bearing cannot take it.
Totally! They're incredible routers! That's why I wanted to keep it instead of swapping it out with a different router and more typical lift. So glad I did this upgrade.
Great video, which caused me to decide that I want to buy this. The only problem, is that I need the RZ200 model, and nobody sells it online any more. They also haven't updated their website in a long time, and Amazon reviews suggest that they've pretty much no staff to handle customer service. Such a wonderful product, it's aggravating to see the idea go to waste like it has.
Ya, real 'blast from the past' going to their website lol
Does it lock in the height adjustment?
I need me one of those.
It's a game changer 👍 I recommend it
Great video! Didn't know those products existed. I like the quick bit change feature, but do you feel comfortable with a set screw holding that router bit in place at such high speeds? Feels like there is some sketch factor there that makes me question the extension safety.
I had that thought too when I first ordered it but after looking at it with that thought in mind I really don't think it'll be an issue. The machining is very precisely and you can feel how close of an interference fit it is when you slide a 1/2" bit in. The locking mechanism doesn't compress like a traditional collet and my guess is that even if the set screw wasn't tightened, everything is so concentric that the bit wouldn't violently wobble out like it would on a loose collet. They also have machined out a small bit of material on the opposite side of the set screw to maintain a perfect balance.
Thank you for the instructions. I have Deealt dw625e router. Do you think kit will work for my router as well.
Yes, I believe that's the same as the one in the video. Dewalt bought ELU routers shortly after but kept the same design for that model.
Well this is second time I see this you know how much you saved I look the router lift today one is a 1000 English pounds which is nice but the price is not that nice and look how much you spend may be under 200 dollars and works I have dewalt 625 which is powerful router for hard wood thanks my brain they going to different level know because of my friend thanks again I say hello from London but my work shop hopefully is going to be in Colombia 🇨🇴 👌👌👍
awesome!
Thank you! Cheers!
Jessem also sells a router lift for plunge routers.
Yeah, they're pretty spendy though at $390.
Question: what is the Rapid Collar (#22) used for. Why would I need to tighten or loosen it?
Great video. I have the same Elu. Thanks so much.
Hmm, now that I think about it, I'm not honestly sure. I haven't had a need to adjust it since I put it together. I suppose it could be used as a height stop, but aside from making it slightly easier to assemble the thumbscrew by holding the shaft compressed, it's been pretty much set-and-forget.
You can also buy plunge bars from Woodrat to speed the height adjustment.
Did you do a video of the further upgrade you did to make it a motorized height adjustment?
Still working on it, ran into a code issue. Hopefully have it up and running soon!
Very informative! I've only recently started doing routing on a table, previously used it on A Triton Work Centre. One question: does it come with instructions for a Makita 3600BR router please? I agree, areal pain changing without a lifter. Cheers! John
Hmm, not sure. Take a look through the list of compatible routers on www.routertechnologies.com and if you don't find the one you're looking for, maybe shoot them an email.
Thanks for sharing this information ,, only question ,,, does the kit fit any router ? one size fits all ?
It fits most plunge-base routers. Check their website for the list of compatible routers 👍
Now l know how they put a extension bit and rising fine adustment.
Get yourself a “ER20 Router Collet Extension Chuck” and a set of ER20 spring collets.
Not only you extend the length of the shaft, you can clamp any diameter router or CNC bit you can find on the market.
You can also tighten the collet chuck with two wrenches from the top.
Clamping router bits with set screws that dig into the shank is a bad idea, but I will let you discover why on your own.
At the time of posting the video there weren't any ER20 extensions that had consistently high reviews so I didn't want to recommend something that was potentially garbage to the viewers. The Xtreme Xtension is highly rated, well made, extremely well balanced, and the set screw doesn't dig into the shank as there is a machined piece between the end of the set screw and the shank that has the same curvature as the shank and distributes the pressure so it's physically not possible to overtighten enough to damage a router bit shank.
They make a height adjuster for dewalt which you can extend. You should have bought the Trend T9 with built in height adjustment. Same router as Dewalt!
Interesting, I'll have to check it out!
Hi, do you know if the Router Raizer can be used on the Elu OF97E router? I believe the equivalent of the Elu is the Dewalt DW621 however, the top layout is slightly different. Thank in advance for your / anyone’s help. Martin
I'm not sure but I'd hit up the guys over at www.routertechnologies.com and I bet they'd be able to tell you. Best of luck!
nice vid - also considering getting the router raizer. Tell me - with the Raizer installed - can you still used the plunge action when handheld? or do you need to screw the bits down with the handle?
Yes, you can still use the plunge action, all you need to do is loosen the rapid collar thumb screw. Also, to get the full plunge distance, the leadscrew needs to be threaded most of the way into the drive nut.
Now just need a stepper motor with an up down switch, but great video thanks
Funny you should mention that... keep an eye out for a new video along those lines in the next few weeks 😉
Remember that a ⅜-16 steel rod gives you 1/16"with each full turn (and 1/32 each half, 1/64 each quarter turn.) So making a fine adjustment router under your table is easy with some simple tinkering.
Personally, I didnt like the weakness of the router raizer's main turn rod. My router is HEAVY so I needed to go beefier.
I'm happy with the video though... that's how you show a product and assembly right there!!! :)
Totally! I had the same thought since making that video and plan to make a diy one in the future.
Thanks for watchin!
@@42Pursuit I've made a bunch... still not happy.
You know what you should build/buy? The Pantorouter. It was a concept by Mathias Wendel. I have a handmade one, and it is amazing. You can buy fancy versions now from extruded and machined aluminum, but they cost a bit ... a large bit lol.
These are so fun to work with! (And you can tweak the handmade wooden version a bit as well by mixing co concepts from the handmade, and machine versions. A hybrid Pantorouter.
I just love making tools. I get carried away, my apologies lol.
@@carterscustomrods Man, I've been thinking about it, those pantorouters are sweet! I want to build one but those extruded aluminum ones look so good too. We'll see. Maybe a winter project.
@@42Pursuit well I look forward to watching the videos for it. :)
I've had 2 Router Raizers on 2 DeWalt 625s for ten or so years and have never had a hint of a problem with either.
Can we get a link for that ruler you used to measure the height of the bit at the end? That sure is nice.
You bet! amzn.to/2MS8n38 I quite like it.
@@42Pursuit thanks!
Hi, Thanks, really nice video. I have three question. Can I use this kit for my DW 626? Is this kit applicable without extension? Has the extension set approval from manufacturer?
Thanks! I'm pretty sure you can use it for that router, I believe it's mechanically very close to the DW625 which is a compatible router. Double check on their site though and shoot them a message if you can't find it there: www.routertechnologies.com.
I think the lift kit is fine without the extension, but the bit changes would have to be done from the underside of the table which is slightly less convenient.
The extension is listed on the same site as the router raizer, so I assume they're from the same parent company and are made to work in tandem.
Cant find anywhere in the UK that stocks this. Unavailable on Amazon. Any suggestions?
I believe rockler.com ships internationally. There's a link to the router raizer listing on their website in the video description.
Or go to the router raizer website at www.routertechnologies.com and see if they have local distributors.
I have both 0.5 and 0.25 bits. How is that accommodated?
Those two sizes of collets for the router are pretty standard. And if you decide to go the extension route, there's an insert that allows 0.25" bits to be used as well as 0.5" ones.
I’ve seen examples of DIY solutions very similar to this. However, they ALL seem to modify the router. In some cases functionality was compromised.
Q: can the router, after Router Raider installation, be removed from the table and used in handheld mode? And does it retain full functionality?
Full functionality is maintained and it can definitely still be used as a hand-held plunge-base router. You can see starting around 8:12 that it still acts like a regular plunge base router, just with the ability to turn a knob to precisely adjust the router down towards the faceplate.
Would be very keen to know if this system is compatible with Bosch GOF 900A
Any chance you can point me to the agents?
Hmm, I'm not sure and didn't find mention of it on their site. I'd try contacting them directly and see what they say. www.routertechnologies.com
@@42Pursuit not to worry, I tried their site, their contact us form does not work, ended up picking up a Triton.
:)
So your router has been to Billings? is that where you are at?
Hah, good eye. No, must've been from the guy I bought it from.
Hi is this compatible with a UK dewalt 618 router as we are metric and you are imperial
I would guess yes, but I'd contact the folks over at www.routertechnologies.com just to be sure. Thanks for watchin!
Thank you for this video. I have a question in regards to the instruction guide that comes with his product. It references utilizing this product with the porter cable 8529 model, which in my opinion already has the ability to raise the product from a router table situation. Does this product add any versatility to the functionality of the 8529, and if so what is that additional functionality? Thank you
I'm not familiar with the 8529 but from a quick search it looks like it's adjustable, but maybe not from the top of the table if it's mounted in a router table configuration? If that's true, than all it would add is the convenience of adjusting the height quickly from above the table.
I installed one easily with a Hitachi router. The drilling of the table is a bit nerve wracking, measure three times, drill once. My only issue in not putting the magnetic plug back in the table top. The little hole for the handle filled with wood dust! So remember.
True that. I'm glad they supply a few extra covers since I accidentally vacuumed up the first one. Whoops!
Will this work with the dewalt E625?
Hmm, it doesn't say on their website. You'd probably need to reach out to www.routertechnologies.com/ and ask if that newer model of the 625 is compatible. Let me know what they say!
I want to know where you got the extreme extension for $23.55?! That thing has been $65 forever
Ah, you are correct, I misspoke. I just checked and see that I paid around $65 for it. Not sure where I got that $23.55 number...