Gary Payton just ENDED THE GOAT DEBATE 😱👀 Lebron vs Michael Jordan 🔥

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  • @thomasbowling7458
    @thomasbowling7458 Před rokem +5620

    Let's talk about a killer. LeBron broke that record that night, in the third quarter and scored only two points afterwards and they lost that game. He's no fucking killer

  • @darylsheppard8480
    @darylsheppard8480 Před rokem +1068

    He ain’t turning shit but 40 😭😭

  • @jessewright8930
    @jessewright8930 Před 4 měsíci +370

    It’s been 20+ years how long will it take him to become a killer 😂

    • @daharambe.
      @daharambe. Před 3 měsíci +5

      it’s been 21 years you mean 😂

    • @jessewright8930
      @jessewright8930 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@daharambe. I put 20+

    • @daharambe.
      @daharambe. Před 3 měsíci

      @@jessewright8930 ooo

    • @bigphil56
      @bigphil56 Před 3 měsíci +8

      40k says hes a killer 😂

    • @jessewright8930
      @jessewright8930 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@bigphil56 40k says he been in the league for 21 years with no real injuries averaging 25+. You don’t have to be a killer to be one of the greatest to ever do it. We talking about what we see not just stats.

  • @alexwalker1608
    @alexwalker1608 Před 3 měsíci +15

    "He may have the best take yet!" and then it to turns out he said the same shit we have all heard a thousand times

  • @cellmate1
    @cellmate1 Před rokem +614

    Gary hates MJ after what Jordan said about him on The Last Dance 😂😂😂

    • @JS-fw9ot
      @JS-fw9ot Před rokem

      So he should. Jordan was an arrogant pr*ck who mocked Payton who was actually right when he said he did an okay job guarding him in the finals. Jordan only scored over 30 points once and had 2 other games where he shot 5-19 and 6-19. That's a decent job against someone that averaged 30ppg but Jordan couldn't bring himself to show any respect despite winning the ring and it being 25 years later.

    • @janirosario5751
      @janirosario5751 Před rokem +21

      He does 😂😂😂

    • @carlosvillafierte9119
      @carlosvillafierte9119 Před rokem +40

      And that MJ denied him of a championship 😂

    • @LamanchaNegra-zz6wg
      @LamanchaNegra-zz6wg Před rokem +8

      you gotta beat tha refs too 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @thechampion9525
      @thechampion9525 Před rokem +22

      Same as Isaiah Thomas 😅 obviously they will talk negative from the goat

  • @kurtbertrand9829
    @kurtbertrand9829 Před rokem +537

    The main difference is MJ had a killer mindset from start to finish.

    • @laamkingent1
      @laamkingent1 Před rokem +19

      Really but Lebron came out of HS and was better than most of the players already in the league

    • @kurtbertrand9829
      @kurtbertrand9829 Před rokem +25

      @@laamkingent1 The NBA was already soft when Le bron came to league. Jordan had it a lot harder than Le bron did. In todays NBA anybody can have a 30point night in the 80s and 90s you had to earn a 30 point night.

    • @sherm3259
      @sherm3259 Před rokem +28

      @@kurtbertrand9829 soft? Where did you get this understanding from. Detroit Pistons? Indiana Pacers? Boston Celtics.

    • @kurtbertrand9829
      @kurtbertrand9829 Před rokem +16

      @@sherm3259 Yes soft go and look at NBA 80s and 90s Physical. You don't see this anymore, todays basket ball is soft as bread. Jordan went thru hell with the Detroit Pistons . I don't remember Le Bron going thru this punishment.

    • @pumpkin9916
      @pumpkin9916 Před rokem +11

      The main difference is Lebron was extremely good from start to finish.
      Age 38:
      Lebron 30/8.5/7 , 50% FG
      MJ 22/5/5 , 41% FG (but was a killer, shhh)

  • @drakes1515
    @drakes1515 Před 4 měsíci +283

    4 times in NBA history has someone won the scoring title, mvp,won the championship, finals mvp and 1st team all defense in the same year. Jordan did it all 4 times. Hands down the goat!!!

    • @dorenittamalone4187
      @dorenittamalone4187 Před 3 měsíci +14

      Against 9 HOF😭 bron doing this against 21 HOF💯

    • @jdub2878
      @jdub2878 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Michael was given those accolades because he resuscitated the NBA.
      Corporations had a vested interest in promoting MJ's greatness.
      Money driven.

    • @BaracoObama
      @BaracoObama Před 3 měsíci +12

      ​@@dorenittamalone4187 lets not talk about bron in the eastern conference

    • @d-rosejames4553
      @d-rosejames4553 Před 3 měsíci +6

      LeBron is better all around Player and Yeah He the Goat. hehehe Awwwww All Stats ahead of MJ by far. except steals hehehe

    • @dontadeshun
      @dontadeshun Před 3 měsíci +28

      ​@@d-rosejames45536 titles in 8 years only played 15 seasons 2 of them he only played 18 games i believe. Mj did more in less time stats don't tell them whole story plus lbj really shots 37% outside of 6ft meaning his shooting percentage is from 65% layups and dunks in a weak defensive era

  • @user-kz4dl9qh9n
    @user-kz4dl9qh9n Před 2 měsíci +21

    MJ was a better scorer, defender, and more clutch 🐐

    • @sebastianro7746
      @sebastianro7746 Před 2 dny

      Did you mention he didn’t have a left hand😂

    • @strengthandhonor9334
      @strengthandhonor9334 Před 2 dny +1

      ⁠@@sebastianro7746It’s crazy how much better he must be than everyone else if he was able to accomplish what he accomplished with only one hand.

    • @sebastianro7746
      @sebastianro7746 Před dnem

      @@strengthandhonor9334 yeah because the era was weaker

    • @strengthandhonor9334
      @strengthandhonor9334 Před dnem +1

      @@sebastianro7746BAHAHAHAHAHA. Jordan would average 40 in today’s game.

    • @sebastianro7746
      @sebastianro7746 Před dnem

      @@strengthandhonor9334 you say that like he can shoot. He went 5/40 in the 3 point contest, that’s your goat😂

  • @ucruz3
    @ucruz3 Před rokem +853

    Becoming a killer at the end tail of his career is just damn near impossible 😔😂

    • @tankwhite.7036
      @tankwhite.7036 Před rokem +47

      Big lie LeBron has the most game winners in the playoffs with a higher PERCENTAGE.

    • @nassiglutt6587
      @nassiglutt6587 Před rokem +71

      ​@@tankwhite.7036where did that killer go in those 6 final losses😩🤣

    • @tankwhite.7036
      @tankwhite.7036 Před rokem +49

      @nassi glutt The same place killer MJ went when Isaiah Thomas Pistons eliminated him 3 straight years from the playoffs. MJ couldn't even make it to the Finals

    • @nassiglutt6587
      @nassiglutt6587 Před rokem +29

      @@tankwhite.7036 nah that aint no "finals" lol. Those days are the "young and learning stages' like your idol's early days. TBH Isiah was so embarrassed when he didn't shook hands after they were finally sweeped by the bulls so he retired early at 32, still a prime bull, as hes got too much pride. He can't take a loss again year after year😭🤣

    • @tankwhite.7036
      @tankwhite.7036 Před rokem +9

      @@nassiglutt6587 😂😂😂😂😂😂 wtf are you talking about.

  • @kac0404
    @kac0404 Před rokem +320

    Jordan.. PERIOD!!!!! Straight up GOAT 🐐

    • @coach_zachw
      @coach_zachw Před rokem +3

      MJ is guilty of making the NBA soft .. he got everything called …the pistons were labeled villains & the refs supported Mikes 1st 3 chips…go watch the tape…refs rarely help. Lebron ..I don’t get it . Almost same speed vertical agility ball handling but Bron 6’9 250 MJ 6’6 198😂 common sense Bron is the 🐐 MJ’s era was still so unathletic..honestly

    • @aaryasharma4940
      @aaryasharma4940 Před rokem

      @@coach_zachw mf you're spamming your comment everywhere, even people getting paid don't show this level of meat riding go get a life

    • @rdogletree4543
      @rdogletree4543 Před rokem +1

      He was 198 in his earlier years, he weighed around 220 after the 1990 playoffs. But getting hammered every time you drive to the basket was ridiculous. There's no hand check now so how did he make the game soft? If the rules didn't change back then there wouldn't be a flagrant 1 or 2 now. LeBron is a bigger and stronger athlete but it's not a game of one on one so it would've likely been Pippen guarding him since he was 6'8 235.

    • @aaryasharma4940
      @aaryasharma4940 Před rokem +6

      @@rdogletree4543 yea MJ would destroy Lesoft on offense, Lesoft can't defend him and Scottie locks him down these meat riders prolly get paid for doing this

    • @braydenlanza6476
      @braydenlanza6476 Před rokem

      @@coach_zachwtf u on

  • @scottsummers4707
    @scottsummers4707 Před 4 měsíci +148

    It’s sounds like Gary Payton said a lot words, and said nothing at the same time.

    • @carlossolrac5359
      @carlossolrac5359 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Seems more like you heard a lot of words and refused to listen. Casuals

    • @obrianward4190
      @obrianward4190 Před měsícem

      Let me simplify. He said bron is the greatest all around player ever!!!!!!

    • @scottsummers4707
      @scottsummers4707 Před měsícem

      @@obrianward4190 that’s not saying he’s the goat though!!!!!

    • @obrianward4190
      @obrianward4190 Před měsícem

      @@scottsummers4707 he said it without creating too much controversy for himself. It's called word play

    • @obrianward4190
      @obrianward4190 Před měsícem

      @@scottsummers4707 he said it without creating too much controversy for himself. It's called word play!!!!!!

  • @biggrime
    @biggrime Před 4 měsíci +53

    The dumbest argument of all time

    • @faygoyt246
      @faygoyt246 Před měsícem

      fr.

    • @zachk5652
      @zachk5652 Před 11 dny

      “Bron is the best all-around player, but Mike is a killer so I have to go with Mike”
      The cognitive dissonance goes crazy😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @nplamad6495
      @nplamad6495 Před 7 hodinami

      Good one but lebron don't give the expectation and worsen his history by illegal play like travel and flop
      Gifted physical but not mental

    • @zachk5652
      @zachk5652 Před 7 hodinami

      @@nplamad6495 MJ quit on his teams twice

    • @biggrime
      @biggrime Před 5 hodinami

      @@nplamad6495 for me the reason why this argument is dumb because we don't know how LeBron would do back in the nineties. And we don't know how Jordan would do in today's gameplay. We only can compare to what we've seen from them. LeBron and Jordan would play different if they played in different era. We don't know what that would look like

  • @waldo-ot6ul
    @waldo-ot6ul Před rokem +421

    Turning into a killer at 38 ? To late to do that. Mike was ripping hearts out at age 20

    • @ChanChan-ro7gd
      @ChanChan-ro7gd Před rokem +10

      Lebron was a killer at 20 as well

    • @waldo-ot6ul
      @waldo-ot6ul Před rokem +21

      @@ChanChan-ro7gd but not bringing the fear Jordan did

    • @capybara8855
      @capybara8855 Před rokem +31

      @@ChanChan-ro7gd Lebron was making people shiver, MJ made the world shiver

    • @lesterking2790
      @lesterking2790 Před rokem +3

      Word 😂

    • @lesterking2790
      @lesterking2790 Před rokem

      Chan Chan 😂🤣💦😂👌🏼

  • @joeyo5952
    @joeyo5952 Před 6 měsíci +610

    He is turning into a killer of teams…
    His own team 😂

    • @joebuss8835
      @joebuss8835 Před 5 měsíci +1

      This was fkn funny. Ty

    • @AJ_Editz15
      @AJ_Editz15 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @user-mw8sv9dq6yand got swept by the nuggets last season

    • @user-kx2rk2qz2e
      @user-kx2rk2qz2e Před 5 měsíci +1

      Turning into that killer😂😂😂
      Bro he's been in the league 20yrs already 🤦🏽
      The greatest all-around player 🤔
      They made the category up to benefit
      benefit Bron...
      If that's the case
      Who was the greatest all around player before Le'Teamshuffler

    • @Kingjames313
      @Kingjames313 Před 4 měsíci

      @user-mw8sv9dq6ylmao

    • @Blk9698
      @Blk9698 Před 4 měsíci

      Nah he's a crybaby bum ​@@user-kx2rk2qz2e

  • @_gw33do_
    @_gw33do_ Před 4 měsíci +31

    Year 21 and he’s “turning into a killer” 😂😂😂

    • @CharlesAaronTe
      @CharlesAaronTe Před 22 dny

      A team killer and coach killer. But the best is NBA destroyer.😂😂😂😂😂. Hope they make a competition for the NBA but with 90s rules and pure competition 90s style. Today's NBA Stinks of Big Babies pooping they're diapers most specially their King.

  • @dracoaf4489
    @dracoaf4489 Před 4 měsíci +35

    Micheal Jordan played 15 seasons w 6 rings, LeBron played 21 seasons so far w 4 rings. End of debate

    • @Monkeybrain760
      @Monkeybrain760 Před 2 měsíci

      I didn’t know you win championships by yourself goofy ass comment

    • @jameskennerly4412
      @jameskennerly4412 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Bill Russell played 13 years 11 rings. End of debate 👀

    • @courageokojie6849
      @courageokojie6849 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Their logice is so idiotic​@@jameskennerly4412

    • @faygoyt246
      @faygoyt246 Před měsícem +1

      @@jameskennerly4412 but still bill russell isnt the goat. its jordan

    • @krces1
      @krces1 Před měsícem +2

      13 seasons and 35 games(18 games-85 injury
      and 17 games-95 comeback)

  • @bibidybop
    @bibidybop Před rokem +2443

    You’re not becoming that “killer” at 38 years old 😂

    • @dontrellsloan8337
      @dontrellsloan8337 Před rokem +72

      Really though it only took 20 years 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤭🤭😂😂

    • @kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
      @kingmtjthegreatmillionaire Před rokem +150

      @@dontrellsloan8337 Lebron does has a Killer mindset Just not like Kobe an Mike every animal kills different. You don’t go to 10 straight finals an not be a killer or get over 38,000 points

    • @MaleikRaikwon
      @MaleikRaikwon Před rokem +27

      A lion anticipates the exact moment, tries to elimate every mistake and possibility of a miscue and then proceeds to rip your heart out and is a vicious killer that we respect. But a Tiger, They’re getting their kill whether you see it coming or not. Bron is that Lion and Jordan and Kobe are the exclusive tigers

    • @garrettgrimes9656
      @garrettgrimes9656 Před rokem +53

      @@kingmtjthegreatmillionaire one is undefeated in the finals and hae a mvp offensive scoring title mvp and defensive scoring title all within same season. Other is 4-6 in finals..

    • @bernie906
      @bernie906 Před rokem +50

      MJ cries whenever someone talks bad about him. Bron played 20 years at the highest level, being the most scrutinized athlete in US history. He played through the social media age where all the haters are 24/7. Yet he still delivers. If that isn't a killer instinct I don't know what is.

  • @JohnnyLightningV10
    @JohnnyLightningV10 Před rokem +229

    Payton just mad from Last Dance 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Tuskegeeflyboi
      @Tuskegeeflyboi Před rokem +4

      Payton and Kemp and detlift see but they don’t know about that sonics team

    • @rudyperez7680
      @rudyperez7680 Před rokem +3

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @bigron945
      @bigron945 Před rokem +6

      GARY DID NOT END ANY DEBATES

    • @blakeharris58
      @blakeharris58 Před rokem

      You really think so? Of all the players that could/should be, Payton is dead last.

    • @oye1996
      @oye1996 Před rokem +1

      Real mad....he actually just lost all my respect

  • @tipigi3570
    @tipigi3570 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Sounds like Gary is turning into a politician, and not really answering the question.

  • @goatprodz666
    @goatprodz666 Před 4 měsíci +2

    People who think MJ is better 👇

  • @Panazoniac
    @Panazoniac Před rokem +420

    MJ will always be "the Michael Jordan of" basketball.

  • @themainmanphi1246
    @themainmanphi1246 Před 10 měsíci +85

    Imagine hearing someone say that you're just getting started on being a killer like MJ while you're in year 20 of your career. That means a lot.

    • @BlindfoldSniper
      @BlindfoldSniper Před 5 měsíci +2

      And now I can't get the thought out my head of Ol' LeBruh on the front porch yelling
      "Maw, git the gun!"

  • @pucz8215
    @pucz8215 Před 4 měsíci +4

    And now you know way Payton isn’t on tv anymore lol

  • @brentallen15
    @brentallen15 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Whining has to be included in the discussion.

  • @petrosnemardos
    @petrosnemardos Před 10 měsíci +585

    "Lebron is turning into that killer" means he's not a killer.

    • @KingKong-ux3gg
      @KingKong-ux3gg Před 6 měsíci +32

      So he’s been playing for 21 years and NOW he’s becoming the killer

    • @Lebronking777
      @Lebronking777 Před 5 měsíci +13

      ​@@KingKong-ux3gg he is a killer just not like Mj or Kobe

    • @snerdterguson
      @snerdterguson Před 5 měsíci +13

      Yeah, MJ killed his opponents, he never had a playoff series like Bron has had multiple times, where he killed his OWN team

    • @Ozem_Israel
      @Ozem_Israel Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@Lebronking777stop the 🧢

    • @Lebronking777
      @Lebronking777 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Ozem_Israel your telling me the warriors got KD cuz they liked him? They literally beat him why would the want him bro

  • @brandongaspard1738
    @brandongaspard1738 Před rokem +447

    Jordan=Quality
    Bron=Quantity

    • @bradleyowusu9589
      @bradleyowusu9589 Před rokem +47

      Lebron has both

    • @flux2956
      @flux2956 Před rokem +19

      There's no quality in shots. It's either a basket or not. This is not Nba2k kid.

    • @lmaoidontcare6019
      @lmaoidontcare6019 Před rokem +29

      ​@@flux2956 are you slow? ofc there isn't, he meant there playstyles, their amount of finals wins, and how MJ did more in a shorter amount of time than Lebron did in 20 seasons

    • @flux2956
      @flux2956 Před rokem

      @@lmaoidontcare6019 I dont think you know what slow means. Btw, lebron did a lot in a shorter time than mj ever did. You obviously don't know what you're talking about 🤓

    • @lmaoidontcare6019
      @lmaoidontcare6019 Před rokem +17

      @@flux2956 Michael Jordan in fifteen seasons, six rings, five MVPs, 10 scoring titles, Lebron in 19 seasons, 4 rings 4 MVPs

  • @southerngunner2614
    @southerngunner2614 Před 4 měsíci +8

    hes turning into a senior citizen

  • @jeremyrafuse5330
    @jeremyrafuse5330 Před 4 měsíci +4

    LeBron isn't turning into a killer 😂

  • @doncorleone7940
    @doncorleone7940 Před rokem +282

    Lebron trades his team mates like a manager. He's a team mate killer indeed 😂

    • @Graeberwave
      @Graeberwave Před rokem +3

      Bro, exactly. The Rockets blew them out by 40 in December. The next day Bron goes to town trading away Isaiah Thomas, D. Rose, and Jefferson! Ridiculous.

    • @ROBERTWARDLAX
      @ROBERTWARDLAX Před rokem +2

      It’s pretty easy to tell which one is better if you look at there stats for the last 15 years that should tell it all😂😂

    • @Graeberwave
      @Graeberwave Před rokem

      @@ROBERTWARDLAX statsexual

    • @Graeberwave
      @Graeberwave Před rokem

      @@ROBERTWARDLAX Lebronisha’s mom got f*cked up Delonte West. Take that for data.

    • @coach_zachw
      @coach_zachw Před rokem +1

      Mike only went to 6 finals compared to Kobe Lebron & magic.. LEBRON THE GOAT 🐐 AND NOW ITS NOT EVEN A CLOSE DEBATE ANYMORE..Mike’s era were just too unathletic

  • @CanYouRepeatTheQuestion
    @CanYouRepeatTheQuestion Před rokem +243

    20 years later, he is becoming a killer..lol
    Yeah, I don’t think it works that way.

  • @chadtzygaming
    @chadtzygaming Před měsícem +2

    Mj taking it seriously>any version of Bron

  • @JO-cj2dv
    @JO-cj2dv Před 4 měsíci +2

    Calling a midlife crisis turning into a killer is just hilarious😂

  • @gavinperry8433
    @gavinperry8433 Před rokem +187

    Man is 38 and he's " Turning into that killer " ? MJ is the GOAT

    • @kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
      @kingmtjthegreatmillionaire Před rokem +4

      Lebron does has a Killer mindset Just not like Kobe an Mike every animal kills different. You don’t go to 10 straight finals an not be a killer or get over 38,000 points

    • @strifefresh3998
      @strifefresh3998 Před rokem +1

      Facts

    • @coach_zachw
      @coach_zachw Před rokem

      MJ is guilty of making the NBA soft .. he got everything called …the pistons were labeled villains & the refs supported Mikes 1st 3 chips…go watch the tape…refs rarely help. Lebron ..I don’t get it . Almost same speed vertical agility ball handling but Bron 6’9 250 MJ 6’6 198😂 common sense Bron is the 🐐 MJ’s era we’re still so unathletic..honestly

    • @Seth_Palmer
      @Seth_Palmer Před 2 měsíci

      @@coach_zachwrefs rarely help lebron. Nah.
      Also the pistons punched & tackled Michael.
      There’s a reason why his nickname is leActor

    • @AceParks
      @AceParks Před 2 měsíci

      Neither one of them can stop each other 😭

  • @fps3693
    @fps3693 Před rokem +168

    Mj for life no one has displayed the art of basketball like mj

    • @johnvanderwesthuizen2283
      @johnvanderwesthuizen2283 Před rokem

      I salute you in this comment!!!!!!

    • @johnbills3056
      @johnbills3056 Před rokem +9

      Comparing LeBron to Jordan is just an Insult. There's no universe where LeBron is on the same par as Michael Jordan. LeBron has zero move, Zero.

    • @kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
      @kingmtjthegreatmillionaire Před rokem +5

      Lebron does has a Killer mindset Just not like Kobe an Mike every animal kills different. You don’t go to 10 straight finals an not be a killer or get over 38,000 points

    • @kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
      @kingmtjthegreatmillionaire Před rokem +6

      @@johnbills3056 You actually right it is a insult to compare Jordan to Lebron because Lebron came into the league with a burden on his shoulders an met the expectations he sign a 100 million dollar deal before playing a NBA game people expected Lebron to be great. Everyone knew Mike was a great player but no one expected him to be the best of the best the face that runs the place. Which gave Mike room to grow an get better.

    • @kingmtjthegreatmillionaire
      @kingmtjthegreatmillionaire Před rokem +1

      @@johnvanderwesthuizen2283 Jordan was the underdog that became the man Lebron was just always the man since High school people paid money to see him play in high school 500 to a 1,000 front row seats.

  • @Marshall._F
    @Marshall._F Před 4 měsíci +1

    Someone said “Gary Payton is hated by nature at this point”💀💀💀

  • @trevanhatch8717
    @trevanhatch8717 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Killers don’t have epic meltdowns in the playoffs. Killers don’t throw teammates under the bus, constantly get coaches fired, and chase around the league for rings like LeBron and KD.

  • @adi_2
    @adi_2 Před rokem +198

    Hes turning in to a killer.... Lakers currently under 500.

  • @ericbethea1306
    @ericbethea1306 Před rokem +195

    News flash there was never a debate, Jordan the Goat Period in of discussion

    • @salvadorruiz3692
      @salvadorruiz3692 Před rokem +7

      100

    • @avrahamgoyenstein5117
      @avrahamgoyenstein5117 Před rokem +13

      Don't get upset when someone says Lebron is the goat. They're obviously too young to have witnessed true greatness.

    • @ericbethea1306
      @ericbethea1306 Před rokem +4

      I don't get upset and I know that and Lebron is great also but everybody can't be Mike lol

    • @randommthrfkr6568
      @randommthrfkr6568 Před rokem +4

      Its such a fake debate bring forced on us. But if there was a debate, the last dance ended it.

    • @mrankles7465
      @mrankles7465 Před rokem +12

      @@avrahamgoyenstein5117im 17 years old and even i know Jordan is the GOAT

  • @calvatronic
    @calvatronic Před 4 měsíci +2

    Drawing fouls isn’t a killer mentality

  • @yeloperil
    @yeloperil Před 4 měsíci +2

    Bruh Gary Payton for all his wisdom has failed to mention that lebron is turning into a career killer if you don’t help him win!

  • @df6148
    @df6148 Před 11 měsíci +271

    Jordan has elite stealing skills too. People forget what kind of defender he was 🔒.

    • @thatmadlad5381
      @thatmadlad5381 Před 7 měsíci +13

      That man has 9 All NBA defensive selections (I think all are first team too) and a freakin DPOY

    • @sliferxxxx
      @sliferxxxx Před 7 měsíci +21

      9 1st team all defensive while simultaneously leading the league in scoring. Lebron more versatile my behind.

    • @coach_zachw
      @coach_zachw Před 7 měsíci +7

      Defending unathletic players who were way shorter too isn’t lockdown 😂

    • @df6148
      @df6148 Před 7 měsíci +23

      @@coach_zachw By the time I’m done educating you on Jordan you’d be walking out of this conversation Enlightened with a New Appreciation for the man. But I don’t even think you deserve that much at this point. 😂

    • @user-gd6sl7yl7u
      @user-gd6sl7yl7u Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@df6148he a bronsexual

  • @arceus1507
    @arceus1507 Před 8 měsíci +243

    Killers don't flop. MJ is a competitor, he chased wins.

    • @radzsakape7845
      @radzsakape7845 Před 5 měsíci +11

      But Mj is the one invented flopping 🤷😂 the teacher and the Master its LeGOAT Thing 💪😁👑🐐

    • @buzzwilder805
      @buzzwilder805 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@radzsakape7845Le Choke 🥱

    • @cretestlloyd4681
      @cretestlloyd4681 Před 5 měsíci

      MJ is known for being a killer not flopping🤡​@@radzsakape7845

    • @TeranIcer
      @TeranIcer Před 5 měsíci +9

      Meanwhile THE biggest floppers (T Young, & Harden) who actually got rules changed bcuz of it, goes unnoticed by biased people like u.

    • @AdamEdn
      @AdamEdn Před 5 měsíci +6

      Do killers quit repeatedly? lol

  • @ferdinandbautista4912
    @ferdinandbautista4912 Před měsícem +2

    Lebron choked again against the Denver Nuggets. His previous GM accused him of quitting in a game. C’mmon, end this GOAT debate. MJ is the GOAT…………….

  • @masterkong363
    @masterkong363 Před 3 měsíci +2

    LeBron James = 👑
    Micheal Jordan = 🐐

  • @anthonyd8997
    @anthonyd8997 Před rokem +135

    Jordan plays the killer and Leflop plays the victim 😂👌🏽

    • @kernregis2342
      @kernregis2342 Před rokem +6

      🤣🤣😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣

    • @manfordedens6805
      @manfordedens6805 Před rokem

      Wilt who oh the guy who dominated against no bodies people who just learned they can dribble and pass at the same time stop it wilt ain't shit and he didn't win shit he was a horrible teammate

    • @Elias-pt6rv
      @Elias-pt6rv Před 10 měsíci

      can't make one shot kido 💀

    • @thatmadlad5381
      @thatmadlad5381 Před 7 měsíci

      bro 💀💀💀

    • @faitheater8490
      @faitheater8490 Před 4 měsíci

      😂😂

  • @ajjones5504
    @ajjones5504 Před rokem +36

    Gary Payton all OVER the place on the G.O.A.T. conversation 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @sloanmartin6512
    @sloanmartin6512 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The fact this is a debate in general is crazy.

  • @bennettlau2897
    @bennettlau2897 Před 4 měsíci +2

    As an individual who came of age in the 1980s, I had the privilege of witnessing Michael Jordan's career from its early stages. It is my firm belief that MJ stands as the greatest of all time (GOAT) in basketball, much like how Conor McGregor is regarded in the realm of UFC. His impact on the NBA has been so profound that it is difficult to imagine the league as we know it today without his enduring influence.

  • @Niuk-lg3pc
    @Niuk-lg3pc Před rokem +224

    Yep, Gary really "ended the debate" there with the most diplomatic, inconclusive answer possible👍🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @frogthug5927
      @frogthug5927 Před 11 měsíci

      how is it inconclusive when it’s true jordan was able to get more in his career but lebron is a better player accomplishments and skill are different

    • @tommydashed4205
      @tommydashed4205 Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@frogthug5927 What exactly is Lebron more skilled at? Passing more does not equal being a better passer. When you're the biggest scoring threat on your team, you shouldn't be giving the clutch shots up to someone else. But he does it because he's not a good shooter. So even if we give passing to Lebron, MJ was an unquestionably better shooter. Similar 3 pt% but Lebron faces wide open 3s all day from people sagging underneath because they'll take a wide open 35% chance over a nearly guaranteed slash to the basket if they don't. MJ was making his with a hand in his face and hand checking.

    • @AhmadAli-iq4oh
      @AhmadAli-iq4oh Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@tommydashed4205 scoring, defense, shooting, he's more fit...

    • @emmanuel9574
      @emmanuel9574 Před 7 měsíci +2

      6 RINGS POOR QUALITIES! COMPETED AGAINST WEAKLINGS WHILE LEBRON DEFEATED THE STRONGEST TEAMS IN THE HISTORY!
      OKC Durant,westbrook,ibaka,harden
      SPURS Duncan kawhi parker ginobili
      GSW Curry thompson iguodala green
      HEAT Butler adebayo herro iguodala robinson (An Equal game for everyone)
      MJ's finals opponents are laughable 🤣🤣🤣

    • @user-gd6sl7yl7u
      @user-gd6sl7yl7u Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@emmanuel9574where's LeBrons double 3peat? And they call fouls out the ass now bro everyone in today's league are sweet just like shaq said and Jordan is more clutch than LeBron if LeBron and Jordan played at the same time LeBron would be on Jordans dunk real a straight poster he did more in a less amount of time than LeBron bc he was better than everyone else #stopthebronsexuals

  • @justiceknights5827
    @justiceknights5827 Před 10 měsíci +200

    Took 20 years to start turning into a “killer” and 38yo💀💀

    • @PHXNKVHXLIC
      @PHXNKVHXLIC Před 8 měsíci +9

      LeBron James has more playoff buzzer beaters than anyone else in history. While Jordan has more losses than wins without Scottie Pippen and the greatest coach ever helping him lol

    • @thatmadlad5381
      @thatmadlad5381 Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@PHXNKVHXLICYou just talked about 3 things that help LeBron win when theres a ton of other factors to be included. Pathetic.

    • @resinfingers3896
      @resinfingers3896 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@PHXNKVHXLIC Lmao, you talking about scottie pippen only...how many all stars had Lebron balled with...how many chips he got?😂😂😂

    • @PHXNKVHXLIC
      @PHXNKVHXLIC Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@resinfingers3896 if MJ played in todays game, I’m sure he would want to play with good players too lol. And championships are accomplished by a team, this ain’t tennis bro

    • @bernardfields368
      @bernardfields368 Před 5 měsíci

      He is an old as serial killer then...smh.

  • @nubmaat-reiii4564
    @nubmaat-reiii4564 Před 4 měsíci +1

    It's never been a debate.

  • @cantgowrong1712
    @cantgowrong1712 Před 3 měsíci +2

    U don't become a killer at 40😂😂😂

  • @jobeytodd8015
    @jobeytodd8015 Před rokem +366

    You can't turn into something you aren't. MJ 🐐

    • @IheartLeDaddy
      @IheartLeDaddy Před rokem +3

      Nope

    • @southerncoastproductions7587
      @southerncoastproductions7587 Před rokem

      @@IheartLeDaddy Yup. Get yo lil ass outta here.

    • @IheartLeDaddy
      @IheartLeDaddy Před rokem

      @@southerncoastproductions7587 you make toy trains stfu

    • @southerncoastproductions7587
      @southerncoastproductions7587 Před rokem

      @@IheartLeDaddy What that gotta do with anything? It still doing better then your content by far. Second of all. Watch yo tone lil guy. I'm better then you. Talentless puppet.

    • @IheartLeDaddy
      @IheartLeDaddy Před rokem

      @@southerncoastproductions7587 very childish hobby also yo ass ain’t telling no one to watch their tone I know for a fact you living in some comfy ass suburbs somewhere mf

  • @matthewruda596
    @matthewruda596 Před rokem +214

    Stephen A Smith has the best. Everybody respects LeBron, everybody feared Jordan

    • @BPrice-tn8hz
      @BPrice-tn8hz Před rokem +24

      I’d even argue that not everyone even respects Lebron.

    • @timraymond7948
      @timraymond7948 Před rokem +9

      Nobody feared mj 🤣🤣🤣

    • @dyayo79
      @dyayo79 Před rokem +18

      @@timraymond7948 they all did

    • @timraymond7948
      @timraymond7948 Před rokem +9

      @@dyayo79 not on athlete feared jordan.. notna single one

    • @dyayo79
      @dyayo79 Před rokem +13

      @@timraymond7948 go watch some interviews

  • @AustinFreeman-RTR
    @AustinFreeman-RTR Před 12 dny +1

    Lebron will never be MJ. Hell, he ain’t even on Kobe’s level.

  • @ericyoung2352
    @ericyoung2352 Před měsícem +2

    I think LeBron has proven over and over that he isn't that killer.

    • @gonzielovesspanish8989
      @gonzielovesspanish8989 Před měsícem

      It's all BS calling NBA players killers, that's just weak @ss media guys (and you) calling them that. The toughest guys were not the best basketball players. For ex., Keyon Martin, Ron Artest, Ben & Rasheed Wallace, Latrell Sprewell, Vernon Maxwell, Rick Mahorn, The Karate Guy James Smith or something, at least 2 Boxers Isaiah (young guy) and West, etc. All these guys would destroy both MJ & LeBron on the streets, but nobody really remembers them for their BB skills.

    • @ericyoung2352
      @ericyoung2352 Před měsícem

      @gonzielovesspanish8989 yea, I don't think the term in reference to sports would mean tough or good at fighting, but would refer to not shrinking from the moment when the game is on the line.
      But I see your point. It's a stupid term to call an NBA player.

  • @SowerOfMustardSeed
    @SowerOfMustardSeed Před rokem +696

    The “killer” just got killed 0-4. That’s how great he is.

    • @ZidaneSteiner
      @ZidaneSteiner Před rokem +104

      How many times did Jordan make it to the finals with the Wizards?

    • @chasedownblocks1736
      @chasedownblocks1736 Před rokem +77

      @@ZidaneSteiner How many times did Lebron get swept in the playoffs? MJ had no reason to come back after his second retirement other than missing the game. If an old MJ had a super team like Wade and Bosh, he would have made it to the finals too.

    • @II2306.
      @II2306. Před rokem +32

      @@chasedownblocks1736mj was not that good on the wizards and you know that

    • @arealone7863
      @arealone7863 Před rokem +59

      ​@@II2306. bro stop you showing you a child ...MJ was in the mvp conversation in Washington and he had them in the playoffs b4 getting hurt in that 1st year and he didn't trade half his team to try to get a bunch of stars to carry him

    • @arealone7863
      @arealone7863 Před rokem +25

      ​@@ZidaneSteiner how many players did Jordan trade for all stars or top players in those 2 years 🤣🤣 man stop

  • @tyreebond9155
    @tyreebond9155 Před rokem +300

    Bron joined teams to chase rings while Jordan stayed with 1 team and Won 6 championships plus hit the game-winning shot for his college championship as a freshman!

    • @schmittiTV
      @schmittiTV Před rokem +32

      There is no different if join teams or use your influence to push your team to make trades and signings for players. If mj didn't have such a good influence over his team and basically orders the front office to make those trades mj would have left

    • @nunyabizwacks6711
      @nunyabizwacks6711 Před rokem +44

      and lets not act like that Bulls team wasnt a super-team in those times too because they absolutely were

    • @bradtdarius
      @bradtdarius Před rokem +34

      How many titles did MJ win before Phil Jackson came along , and put in the Triangle Offense ? Zero. Finals trips ? Zero. MJ is the best player I've ever seen, but not necessarily the so-called G.O.A.T. Folks generally liked/loved James until he went to Miami...dashing and shattering THEIR expectations of how his career should go. A bigger, stronger player who should play like Jordan. As if his NBA career began in 2010. He followed his own path, and bet on himself. Other than Kobe, no all-time great tried to be the second coming of anyone before them. MJ was more of a " do your part so I can win the game" player, than James, who has been more concerned about bringing a team along, making teammates contribute significantly, to make the team more competitive, Teammates, to James, were, just that...teammates. Jordan's teammates, Scottie Pippen included, were his "supporting cast". Coaching matters, too. All of Jordan's title teams were coached by 2 HoF coaches. James never had that. And, James did more with "slumbum" teams that MJ did. Jordan's first 7 years are very similar to James' 2 Cavalier stints. Until Jordan learned to trust and rely on his teammates, he wasn't getting out of the Eastern Conference Finals. James had the underwhelming Cavs in the Finals after his 5th season. He got more out of less than MJ did. Jordan was a great scorer...guaranteed buckets regardless of defensive pressure..., and a dominant defensive player who had to learn to trust his teammates. James was, and is ,more interested , and better at, empowering his teammates, and had to learn when to be more selfish. He was taught to include teammates when competing. Jordan had to learn, and, be reminded, to do that.
      It's how you like to see how the game is played. If I wanted to let a guy to do heroics to win, and be content having people look at me as riding his coattails, Jordan's that guy. If I want to win, and feel like I actually helped my team win, I'd pick James. He didn't win as much as MJ, but would be more satisfying to work with;he spread the wealth so that everybody felt they actually did some work in a game.

    • @hitek9too255
      @hitek9too255 Před rokem +13

      LeBron became a free agent, joined teams and won championships and won Finals MVP on each one. Jordan joined his hand picked Wizards and did nothing.

    • @tyreebond9155
      @tyreebond9155 Před rokem +11

      @@hitek9too255 you're comparing Jordan at age 40 on the wizards, you lost the argument just by bypassing all of his Chicago bulls accomplishments most great players want to play against the competition not join them to Chase rings but LeBron was different!

  • @user-tx4hj6gb3v
    @user-tx4hj6gb3v Před 20 dny +2

    MICHAEL JORDAN IS THE GOAT 🐐 ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Jimfoe77
    @Jimfoe77 Před 4 měsíci +1

    It took Bron 20 yrs to find that killer instinct 😮

  • @KASLtja
    @KASLtja Před rokem +622

    TURNING……..TURNING INTO A KILLER!? MJ was a killer his entire career bruh.

    • @rasepollz5291
      @rasepollz5291 Před rokem +17

      THANK U🤣💯💯like COMON why r we even still debating the boy lebron didn’t even reach his 5th ring let alone makin it to his 6th

    • @user-mm8ur9el9n
      @user-mm8ur9el9n Před rokem +4

      That’s it man

    • @bozokreso5555
      @bozokreso5555 Před rokem

      ​@@rasepollz5291 are we really dissing lebron? A man who has been averaing like 25 points for 20 fucking years? Eyo what the fuck?

    • @popcornsoup5444
      @popcornsoup5444 Před rokem +16

      @@rasepollz5291Rings dont decide everything if that was true you would be swallowing bill russells tip right now.

    • @kingdavid1828
      @kingdavid1828 Před rokem +11

      @@popcornsoup5444 u right but don’t bring up bill and his easy ass era😂 not even 30 teams. But rings matter for lebron cuz look how many times he’s lost, and mj was 6-0 with 6fmvp most all time

  • @Sean-gq6vj
    @Sean-gq6vj Před 11 měsíci +59

    Payton was a lot more adamant about this until Mike laughed at him in the last dance 😂

  • @bgko91880
    @bgko91880 Před měsícem +2

    Give me a healthy Bird over either. He could do everything and he was a killer.

  • @billhorstkamp98
    @billhorstkamp98 Před 21 dnem +1

    I think Gary Payton is right

  • @berdeauxlaveau6515
    @berdeauxlaveau6515 Před rokem +295

    Lol turning into a killer on his way out. 😂

    • @3rr1k_
      @3rr1k_ Před rokem

      @Reesko what? Throwing what away?

    • @arnoldcrenshaw4142
      @arnoldcrenshaw4142 Před rokem +1

      No the hell he isn't MJ was different all time goat daddy goat. M.J. Big brother goat KOBE. 2nd oldest brother goat LEBRON . little brother goat curry 💪💪💪💪

    • @Viibeofficial
      @Viibeofficial Před rokem +4

      Becoming a killer on a hopeless team
      😐
      Empty stats
      But since he lebron nobody saying anything
      But if it were Beal or lillard now people would say it’s not contributing to winning
      Mike did both 🫢
      Take your heart out and win so I’m team MJ

    • @Cameron_Caron
      @Cameron_Caron Před rokem

      @@arnoldcrenshaw4142 Agreed 🤣 MJ's the father goat. LeBron the brother goat. Kobe the 2nd brother goat lol.

    • @arnoldcrenshaw4142
      @arnoldcrenshaw4142 Před rokem

      Oh your real funny 😒😂

  • @calvinhaskett8712
    @calvinhaskett8712 Před rokem +109

    It's no Debate Gary ..MJ is the G.O.A.T.

    • @jonny_5750
      @jonny_5750 Před rokem

      Cap😊

    • @joaomattos2422
      @joaomattos2422 Před rokem +3

      MJ is the GOAT

    • @coach_zachw
      @coach_zachw Před rokem +3

      Mike only went to 6 finals compared to Kobe Lebron & magic.. LEBRON THE GOAT 🐐 AND NOW ITS NOT EVEN A CLOSE DEBATE ANYMORE..Mike’s era were just too unathletic

    • @calvinhaskett8712
      @calvinhaskett8712 Před rokem +2

      you've lost your mind...@ University of

    • @jovonbritt
      @jovonbritt Před rokem

      I know yall think jordan the goat and all but it is a debate atleast LeBron number 2# and it's over

  • @justicesamuelu2400
    @justicesamuelu2400 Před měsícem +1

    Beat the nuggets one time the entire 2024 season 😂😂😂😂 he sure becoming a killer alright

  • @godzillaepic
    @godzillaepic Před 28 dny +1

    Lebron is slowly turning into flop king😂

  • @Viper83
    @Viper83 Před rokem +136

    I'm still waiting to see that killer instinct Payton is talking about 🤣🤣🤣

    • @jgc792infinitee6
      @jgc792infinitee6 Před rokem +7

      Well you gon be waiting forever

    • @BPrice-tn8hz
      @BPrice-tn8hz Před rokem +5

      He kills which ever team he is on. We’ve been watching it for years.

    • @Viper83
      @Viper83 Před rokem +1

      @user-dk9wf1pn5z LBJ is great, no doubt about that. But he sucks during clutch moments of the game, especially at the free throw line. we've seen that in every team he's been on

    • @rdogletree4543
      @rdogletree4543 Před rokem +2

      ​@@Viper83Yeah he's definitely not a great clutch free throw shooter.

    • @qdontae6
      @qdontae6 Před rokem +3

      Killers don’t cry over missed calls

  • @italiswede1
    @italiswede1 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Lebron isn't even a top 20 all time player. He didn't go to college like everyone before him. That's 4 extra years in his prime. He has choked in big moments so many times that I lost count. He forces every team he played for to get rid of everyone he doesn't like. He plays dirty by holding jerseys and flopping. I can't stand the guy.

    • @plzstopthisplz1309
      @plzstopthisplz1309 Před 2 měsíci

      This has to be the worst take I’ve ever seen on the internet. 20 players greater than Lebron???.

  • @sportsfantastic361
    @sportsfantastic361 Před 2 měsíci +1

    People act like Jordan hit every shot he ever made lol

  • @user-xm6jq8jc6y
    @user-xm6jq8jc6y Před 9 měsíci +56

    It has never been a debate. Jordan is the goat💯

    • @MrJewlz83
      @MrJewlz83 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Goat belongs to Kobe

    • @lapx1
      @lapx1 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@MrJewlz83ur delusional. Take ur medicine 😂

    • @user-xm6jq8jc6y
      @user-xm6jq8jc6y Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@MrJewlz83 How? If Kobe was motivated by Jordan, copied his moves, asked him for advice and still came up short with less titles and played 7 more years in the NBA than Jordan did. Jordan wasn't motivated by anyone, he didn't have any superstar to ask for advice, he's selfmade and he's undefeated in the finals, Kobe lost 2 championships. How many championships would Jordan of won if he had Shaq? U must not know your basketball knowledge son...

    • @MrJewlz83
      @MrJewlz83 Před 4 měsíci

      @@lapx1 and you need to remember Kobe winning without any hall of famers when shaq left the Lakers..

    • @MrJewlz83
      @MrJewlz83 Před 4 měsíci

      @@user-xm6jq8jc6y how many hall of famers did Kobe have when he won without Shaq?

  • @Jigganaut80
    @Jigganaut80 Před rokem +409

    No one I mean NO ONE has ever been scared to play Lebron

  • @MrJewlz83
    @MrJewlz83 Před 4 měsíci +2

    He's turning after turning 40 😂 .. Mike was a killer since 1992 at age 25

  • @Mao-Digs-Escariote
    @Mao-Digs-Escariote Před 4 měsíci +11

    He is turning into a drama killer and defensive liability

  • @mazukamba2573
    @mazukamba2573 Před 9 měsíci +33

    MJ is the GOAT 🐐 PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

    • @Dogdigger-xy9vk
      @Dogdigger-xy9vk Před 12 dny

      👑💯🥇🐐🏀🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾

  • @ernestholloway9436
    @ernestholloway9436 Před rokem +236

    No LJ no killer. MJ wanted your heart.

    • @Will23081
      @Will23081 Před rokem

      Your like 12 repeating shit you’ve heard on the internet. I’m 100% sure you’ve never watched a full game from MJ

    • @nubclub2000
      @nubclub2000 Před rokem

      For real. LeBron ain't no fucking killer 😂

    • @kylinmooney167
      @kylinmooney167 Před rokem

      @@nubclub2000 who did Mj kill before Scottie? At least Bron made it places and finals with no star help jordan has a losing record without Scottie

  • @Pepsolman
    @Pepsolman Před 4 měsíci +1

    Lol.
    Lebron killed the debate years ago when he got swept in his first finals appearance.
    That’s the kind of killer he is.

  • @hubrismatrix
    @hubrismatrix Před 4 měsíci +1

    Jordan
    All-around better offensive player
    All-around better defensive player
    All around better leader
    More team success
    More individual success
    Lebron
    Better rebounder
    Better passer
    Better longevity in a softer/load management era
    It’s not close folks

  • @yerpyaboy
    @yerpyaboy Před rokem +99

    LeBron's becoming a killer while not going to the playoffs

    • @vincepreston9304
      @vincepreston9304 Před rokem +3

      Exactly WTF 😕💯👍

    • @dyayo79
      @dyayo79 Před rokem +1

      Exactly . What a joke

    • @D__634
      @D__634 Před rokem +1

      Facts!!!

    • @carrollreggie66
      @carrollreggie66 Před rokem

      That has to be a team effort as you can see MJ went nowhere without Scotty Pippin and the rest of the team they put around him

    • @yerpyaboy
      @yerpyaboy Před rokem

      @@carrollreggie66 Scottie pippen never averaged 20 points...
      Dwyane Wade's the third best shooting guard ever
      ... Please shut up.. You're just spreading stupidity in the universe

  • @TSmitty-ec7ll
    @TSmitty-ec7ll Před 6 měsíci +85

    Dude said a bunch of nothing

    • @gregbaxter6162
      @gregbaxter6162 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Agreed, not a bad take but not anything different than what everyone already knows

    • @HarkoretoDaBone-nf7ff
      @HarkoretoDaBone-nf7ff Před 4 měsíci +1

      i swear he said the debate ended.. all of us need to stop talking about it now.

    • @Crey-yk5yy
      @Crey-yk5yy Před 4 měsíci

      Jordan was a CHOKER that's why got his 1st ring at 28 or 29yo.

  • @HoYuPhat
    @HoYuPhat Před 5 dny +1

    Gary Payton is the goat at fence sitting...👀

  • @rafaelornelas2085
    @rafaelornelas2085 Před 26 dny +1

    Gary Payton has always been salty just like Isaiah Thomas !! Both are haters of Jordan !! This is a joke 🤣🤣 LeBron is a princess , floppy fake

  • @jordanchew9552
    @jordanchew9552 Před rokem +11

    He is killing alright, killing those flopping techniques

  • @philliphamilton4360
    @philliphamilton4360 Před rokem +77

    Turning into a killer vs a certified killer speaks for itself.

    • @thatboymike1732
      @thatboymike1732 Před 9 měsíci

      “Killer” has nothing to do w talent

    • @antioneoda1000
      @antioneoda1000 Před 7 měsíci

      Exactly 💯.. Jordan didn't need to turn into a killer. He established very early in his career that he was a killer in the game against the Celtics. Even tho he lost, there was no denying that.

    • @antioneoda1000
      @antioneoda1000 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@thatboymike1732 You are correct, that's why he said LeBron is the better all around player. But there's an old lesson that maybe you've never learned. You can out work talent. Talent only takes you so far. Mentality takes you to the next level. Having a killer instinct when you're needed the most and delivering every time is more valuable than talent.
      This is why Jordan and Kobe is revered. Ask yourself this question. You own a business and you have two salesman. One is more talented than the other but the other is more of a go getter who also has talent. Which one do you hire? The one with more talent or the one with more productivity?

  • @dannyvelasquez288
    @dannyvelasquez288 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Peyton is pissed MJ laughed at him and he said “I didn’t have any problem with the glove” 😂

    • @Sharon-rp7ir
      @Sharon-rp7ir Před 4 měsíci

      mj is the media , media is undefeated he ain't tha goat you just think he is 🙄

  • @jd4062
    @jd4062 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Gary Payton believes John Stockton is the white Goat.

  • @JowanaBueser
    @JowanaBueser Před rokem +22

    We need to follow-up on the "Lebron is turning into a killer" take from Payton 😂

  • @mazda3mike
    @mazda3mike Před rokem +337

    You can't turn into a killer after 20 years of playing. Should have "learned" to be a killer earlier.

    • @siddhanthtalukder6015
      @siddhanthtalukder6015 Před rokem +21

      Same dude who came back from down 3-1 in the finals

    • @phantom8699
      @phantom8699 Před rokem +3

      @@siddhanthtalukder6015 against a team with draymond green in the starting lineup

    • @Caretaker45
      @Caretaker45 Před rokem +26

      @@phantom8699 draymond green was an all star and a dpoy caliber player that year so what r u trying 2 say?.

    • @josephbooker259
      @josephbooker259 Před rokem +7

      He's been dominating the league for 20 years 💀

    • @RobinXlone
      @RobinXlone Před rokem +1

      @@phantom8699 did u see what draymond green did in game 7 2016?

  • @bobinchainz
    @bobinchainz Před 4 měsíci +1

    Lebron ain’t MJ. Time to start looking at new younger players and hype them up to that goat status

  • @cwavygaming6615
    @cwavygaming6615 Před 10 hodinami

    Lebron has never had THAT DAWG in him 😂

  • @dagobertotrevino1716
    @dagobertotrevino1716 Před rokem +124

    He’s just mad because Jordon said, “ I had no problem with the glove.”

    • @AmbassadorAusar
      @AmbassadorAusar Před rokem +7

      That's exactly what this is about!!! Gary knows better than this.

    • @merloncox4408
      @merloncox4408 Před rokem +3

      DAGoberto Trevino: Michael most definitely did have problems with the "Glove" Jordan was the NBA's poster child, and was able to get away with offensive fouls consistently, especially pushing off. Jordan was also one of the most selfish with the ball for many years. Scottie Pippen was spot on about his teammate. Didn't win a thing until Pippen showed up.

    • @greezythumb
      @greezythumb Před rokem +3

      BINGO!! Him and Zeke are so damn salty.

    • @greezythumb
      @greezythumb Před rokem +4

      @@merloncox4408 It is a team sport, right? So how about we just say there is no greatest basketball player of all time since no one did it by themselves? That includes LeBron who ran around the league chasing Scottie Pippens then calls himself the goat. Jordan didn't run from team to team, calling other players to come join him for a championship run then call himself the greatest.
      Pippens didn't win a damn thing without Jordan either. But who needed who more? Pippen could have been replaced just like Horace Grant, Cartwright, BJ Armstrong, Paxson , were all replaced. It's ridiculous to think he couldn't be. But Pippen and the Bulls aren't replacing Jordan.

    • @greezythumb
      @greezythumb Před rokem +3

      @@merloncox4408 Back then all the players got away with murder. Just look at how Pistons and Celtics were allowed to knock players around. Refs weren't so quick to call back then as they are now. And no, he didn't have any trouble sending Seattle back home 4-2. Jordan hit 30+ points in two games. Payton hit over 20 points once in the series. I like Gary Payton but he clearly is overrating himself.

  • @ausar09
    @ausar09 Před rokem +216

    Turning into a team killer.... His own team 😂

    • @yurtwnl
      @yurtwnl Před rokem +4

      Just like mj on the wizards ruining the future of kwame brown by mentally tormenting him for 3 years..:

    • @poseidon97912
      @poseidon97912 Před rokem +1

      Not to mention, giving up on teammates on and off the court

    • @exclusiveshorts350
      @exclusiveshorts350 Před rokem +3

      @@yurtwnlJordan was 40 plus’s dude just came back from playing a whole other sport pipe down.

    • @brianbrown3062
      @brianbrown3062 Před rokem

      ​@@yurtwnlyu

    • @rickytv12
      @rickytv12 Před rokem +1

      @@exclusiveshorts350lebron is 38 right now and said he has few GOOD years in him

  • @MaartenTersteege
    @MaartenTersteege Před 4 měsíci +1

    Mj was not asked to pass the ball, he was was asked to score, and that is exactly what MJ did.

    • @robertalcala899
      @robertalcala899 Před 3 měsíci

      Except when he passed it to Steve Kerr cause Michel didn’t feel right about the shot

  • @maricuchisdelafuente
    @maricuchisdelafuente Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lebron is the best number one pick in nba history next to Kareem

  • @PS2ISTHEBEST
    @PS2ISTHEBEST Před 11 měsíci +157

    You can’t be a killer when someone farts in your direction and you flop

    • @hezyx
      @hezyx Před 9 měsíci +1

      🤣🤣

    • @bertnem3561
      @bertnem3561 Před 7 měsíci

      Id flop if somebody farted in my direction

    • @user-gd6sl7yl7u
      @user-gd6sl7yl7u Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@bertnem3561you must be a bronsexual

    • @Dont_Read_MyProfile_Pic
      @Dont_Read_MyProfile_Pic Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@bertnem3561same

    • @CzarAice01
      @CzarAice01 Před 6 měsíci

      dude anyone would flop if someone farted in their direction 🤣🤣🤣 I understand what you're trying to say BUT GODDAMN THE ANALOGY is waaaaayyyy off. just said blew if you wanna be serious

  • @adamjiminez9605
    @adamjiminez9605 Před rokem +446

    Mike entered the league as a killer

    • @markoconnor4110
      @markoconnor4110 Před rokem +1

      He didn't start till he started weight training to beat the pistons

    • @henrymoore748
      @henrymoore748 Před rokem +10

      ​@Mark O'connor look at rookie mike tapes he was a killer for sure. He become a unstoppable killer when he hut the weights tho.

    • @aaryasharma4940
      @aaryasharma4940 Před rokem +6

      @@markoconnor4110 lol MJ was already averaging like 50 against Larry's Celtics in year 3 or 4 meanwhile Lebron had such an easy East for like 60% of his career

    • @caliwavy8636
      @caliwavy8636 Před rokem

      ​@@markoconnor4110 the weight turned him in the goat ..

    • @adamjiminez9605
      @adamjiminez9605 Před rokem +3

      @@markoconnor4110 Pistons is my team, I seen the entire feud. We’re talking about killer mentality on the court, not weight lifting.

  • @99potoy
    @99potoy Před 22 dny +1

    LBJ killer? I died 😂😂😂

  • @solarverse140
    @solarverse140 Před 4 měsíci +1

    MICHAEL JORDAN, IS THE GOAT. JORDAN COMPLETELY CHANGED THE GAME OF BASKETBALL AND HOW ITS PLAYED. 1 🐐

  • @one_up907
    @one_up907 Před rokem +124

    Jordan was an assassin

    • @coach_zachw
      @coach_zachw Před rokem

      Mike only went to 6 finals compared to Kobe Lebron & magic.. LEBRON THE GOAT 🐐 AND NOW ITS NOT EVEN A CLOSE DEBATE ANYMORE..Mike’s era were just too unathletic

    • @one_up907
      @one_up907 Před rokem +2

      @@coach_zachw 6 rings bro the only stat that matters, and this era is the cupcake era lots of flops handchecks and cry about calls.

    • @capybara8855
      @capybara8855 Před rokem +1

      @@coach_zachw bro is 7 years old💀

    • @johnjack902
      @johnjack902 Před rokem

      ​@@coach_zachw retardation iz real