What's the Difference between Captain Falcon and Ganondorf? (SSBU)

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  • čas přidán 4. 06. 2020
  • Captain Falcon and Ganondorf undeniably have similar movesets.
    But does Ganondorf still deserve to be called a "clone"?
    Just how different are they? Let's find out! DORIYAH!
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  • @AlexEXE
    @AlexEXE  Před 4 lety +441

    I suffered through *so many* technical difficulties while making this video. Ends up I had to replace the HDMI cord leading to the capture card (I'm just glad the card itself isn't faulty).
    There were things I had to cut just because the footage was unusable. So, please forgive the obvious things missing like not having a clip of Ganondorf's midair Warlock Punch, among a couple of other things.
    I've got things fixed now, so the next video should be better quality!
    Anyway, things are a bit crazy in the world right now, so I hope y'all stay safe and healthy. :)

    • @gamertendo860
      @gamertendo860 Před 4 lety +9

      Next should be: What’s the Difference between Fox and Falco

    • @drdaricul4778
      @drdaricul4778 Před 4 lety +1

      Difference between zelda and sheik?

    • @gamertendo860
      @gamertendo860 Před 4 lety +1

      DrDaricul47 TM Unfortunately he only does cloned characters and echo fighters

    • @princekingkingprince
      @princekingkingprince Před 4 lety

      Okay

    • @shieldlesscap6124
      @shieldlesscap6124 Před 4 lety

      For the record, Nair comes out on the same frame for both, being f7, but the 2nd hit is faster for Falcon's (13 vs. 17)

  • @cag_0k642
    @cag_0k642 Před 4 lety +2054

    Imagine being one of the most iconic villains in all of fiction and having your move set copied off of a dude from a dead racing game series. This post was made by bowser gang

    • @gamingyoshifanatic4082
      @gamingyoshifanatic4082 Před 4 lety +180

      How dare you insult our beloved captain?! *Sniff*

    • @cag_0k642
      @cag_0k642 Před 4 lety +206

      GamingYoshi Fanatic
      No offense to cap himself, but his games are as dead as smash 4

    • @gamingyoshifanatic4082
      @gamingyoshifanatic4082 Před 4 lety +116

      @@cag_0k642 Welp, you're right.
      Atleast he's doing better than Ice Climbers or Takamaru

    • @CertifiedBruhMoment.
      @CertifiedBruhMoment. Před 4 lety +137

      Falcon's moves aren't even from fzero as well. They're just copied from sakurais original fighter before smash had nintendo characters lmaoo.

    • @aabfnrjkfnvrofnfnrpldcbrko9027
      @aabfnrjkfnvrofnfnrpldcbrko9027 Před 4 lety +19

      SHOOP-AHHH maybe they’re from... the... anime??

  • @apollossunrise381
    @apollossunrise381 Před 4 lety +772

    The difference:
    Falcon is for people who want to move fast with less power
    Ganondorf is for people who power and don’t care about speed

  • @supermandanny2434
    @supermandanny2434 Před 4 lety +1623

    Ganon, Roy, Falco etc are all "clones" until you play the game competitively

    • @AacroX
      @AacroX Před 4 lety +228

      Or until you play casually long enough

    • @samuelaugenstern5822
      @samuelaugenstern5822 Před 4 lety +184

      *Glances at Daisy and Richter*

    • @Wings_Of_Nightfall
      @Wings_Of_Nightfall Před 4 lety +29

      This is obviously a Melee reference, isn't it?

    • @darkx415
      @darkx415 Před 4 lety +63

      Roy hasn't been a clone since Melee

    • @Wings_Of_Nightfall
      @Wings_Of_Nightfall Před 4 lety +53

      @@darkx415 Eh, he's changed, but only by so much. Now if you really want to talk about declines, look no further than Falco

  • @Sycholesent
    @Sycholesent Před 4 lety +601

    2:00
    “Ganon doesn’t have any armor during this move, so it leaves him *very* exposed.”
    Mario: **proceeds to F-Smash Ganon’s crotch**

    • @youraveragerobloxkid
      @youraveragerobloxkid Před 4 lety +32

      Oof

    • @small_SHOT
      @small_SHOT Před 4 lety +29

      *_A A A G H_*

    • @kidwuulf5692
      @kidwuulf5692 Před 4 lety +25

      of course he doesn't have any armor...
      Every men's weakspot!
      (Except you don't have any, then you are somewhat immortal)

    • @L0SEIN
      @L0SEIN Před 4 lety +15

      *YoU hAvEn'T sEeN tHe LaSt oF mE*

    • @zeno7244
      @zeno7244 Před 4 lety +10

      it leaves him very exposed

  • @EternalFuckshit
    @EternalFuckshit Před 4 lety +608

    "Captain Falcons KNEE Smash"
    It's called the Knee of Justice, smh

    • @ribsofmanhattan404
      @ribsofmanhattan404 Před 4 lety +49

      That is a nickname, Knee smash is the actual name.
      If that was a joke, i get it

    • @luziiiii
      @luziiiii Před 4 lety +14

      @@ribsofmanhattan404 i was about to whoooosh you

    • @Sgt-Wolf
      @Sgt-Wolf Před 4 lety +24

      @@luziiiii
      He saved himself at the last second just like captain falcon would.

    • @Dante_Sparda_DMC
      @Dante_Sparda_DMC Před 4 lety +1

      @@luziiiii you saved yourself from all the hate

    • @luziiiii
      @luziiiii Před 4 lety

      @@Dante_Sparda_DMC true tho lol

  • @fishgilbert6875
    @fishgilbert6875 Před 4 lety +501

    Am I the only one who finds it so strange that these two characters that have absolutely nothing to do with each other have identical movesets?

    • @petery6432
      @petery6432 Před 4 lety +72

      I think everybody except Sakurai thinks that

    • @kkflick
      @kkflick Před 4 lety +106

      Ganondorf is the only clone that was copied from a character from a different series, so yeah it's kinda weird, considering most of the clones are from the same series as their other clones.

    • @kkflick
      @kkflick Před 4 lety +63

      @Ren 1 8 3 I just wished they added Ganon as a Brawl Newcomer so he can have a different moveset from C. Falcon

    • @kirkskilling3249
      @kirkskilling3249 Před 4 lety +4

      He isn’t really a clone

    • @petery6432
      @petery6432 Před 4 lety +36

      @@kirkskilling3249 He is like Roy to Marth, except they are both Swordfighters, so having Similar moveset in partially justified. Captain Falcon is a racer, Ganondorf is the King of evil. Why is so much in common?

  • @jaimeberco1606
    @jaimeberco1606 Před 4 lety +378

    I now want to see F-Zero starring Ganondorf...

    • @billbobs678
      @billbobs678 Před 4 lety +4

      Same

    • @juanrodriguez9971
      @juanrodriguez9971 Před 4 lety +19

      Add Zelda and Fire Emblem characters to the next F-Zero and that will save the franchise.

    • @LegoMarioDude1
      @LegoMarioDude1 Před 4 lety +4

      same bro what if we get a mod that changes captain falcon’s model to ganon’s model so basically ganon over captain falcon. why do this? because we could get to see ganon in the blue falcon lol

    • @LegoMarioDude1
      @LegoMarioDude1 Před 4 lety +2

      Juan Rodriguez Honestly we should just get a Nintendo racing game that has content from a lot of 1st party Nintendo games. The gameplay could be a mix between Mario Kart and F-Zero, or just one or the other. A Nintendo all-stars racing game or whatever could be the only way we could see Ganon in F-Zero, that and mods lol

    • @juanrodriguez9971
      @juanrodriguez9971 Před 4 lety +1

      @@LegoMarioDude1 I'd like too keep some things separated, Mario Kart for the casual gameplay and maybe for give more visibility to the rest of Mario sub-series (Wario Land, Warioware, Luigi's Mansion, Mario & Luigi, Paper Mario, Donkey Kong, etc) while F-Zero should be the more "hardcore" and competitive, something nice to watch and to play, I never liked the idea of a massive racing crossover for Nintendo, I think that only one massive crossover is enough, instead SEGA should make another massive crossover but this time including Nintendo character for the Switch version, because limiting themselves to just Sonic is quite lame.

  • @peggylee6482
    @peggylee6482 Před 4 lety +64

    One goes “FALLCCOOONNNN PPPAAAUUUNNNCCHHHH!!!!!!”and the other goes “DDDDORRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIYYYAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!”

  • @wpower7435
    @wpower7435 Před 4 lety +190

    Captain Falcon: speed and power
    Ganondorf: damn powerful

    • @misterboxhead3045
      @misterboxhead3045 Před 3 lety +10

      Captain falcon: plus ultra

    • @MfwPrivate
      @MfwPrivate Před 3 lety +6

      Captain falcon: One for all
      Ganondorf: All for One

    • @AtypicalStart
      @AtypicalStart Před 3 lety +3

      @@MfwPrivate In both ways captain falcon is all for one
      He usually doesn’t do a raw knee, he uses a lot of moves to combo. And he has a fair diversity in his moves.
      Gannon usually only does one combo: side b to down tilt. Other wise he is just using one move to try to kill you (DORIYAH)

    • @gammaf1365
      @gammaf1365 Před rokem +3

      and damn slow

    • @wpower7435
      @wpower7435 Před 7 měsíci

      yes @@gammaf1365

  • @Fightzpike
    @Fightzpike Před 4 lety +274

    they should make it so if you tap neutral b, it does his iconic fireball, but if u hold it, it does the warlock punch.

    • @juanrodriguez9971
      @juanrodriguez9971 Před 4 lety +31

      That could be amazing, you make it more real to his character while keeping the cloned parts.

    • @ABAgamer_
      @ABAgamer_ Před 4 lety +20

      I would actually like those kind of changes while still making him the true Ganondorf.

    • @trentbell8276
      @trentbell8276 Před 4 lety +6

      That's a really good idea. I wish Nintendo would see it.

    • @petery6432
      @petery6432 Před 4 lety +28

      I think they should put Warlock Punch on a Black Shadow Echo and redo Ganondorf from the ground up.

    • @juanrodriguez9971
      @juanrodriguez9971 Před 4 lety +7

      @@petery6432 I think we will never get a new F-Zero character xd

  • @MonadoJoJo
    @MonadoJoJo Před 4 lety +412

    They're different enough, I'm just more dissapointed that Ganon's moveset doesn't reflect his character in the Zelda games at all.

  • @TinkC43
    @TinkC43 Před 4 lety +108

    2:25 “For the first time in the series, Ganondorf uses a sword in battle.”
    Smash 4 Ganondorf with Warlock Thrust Custom Move: Am I a joke to you?

    • @luziiiii
      @luziiiii Před 4 lety +17

      Yes,yes you are

    • @nousername191
      @nousername191 Před 4 lety +18

      They literally just stuck the sword onto his hand while he was doing a Warlock Punch. I'm surprised Sakurai was OK with that.

    • @nicc8451
      @nicc8451 Před 4 lety +11

      @@nousername191 yeah but it had a tipper and much more range. Yet somehow the sword was weaker than the warlock punch, which is, well, just a punch.

    • @GothicSoldier9000
      @GothicSoldier9000 Před 4 lety

      Almost everyone hates the idea of custom moves tho. They could've been done better at the very least; his sword back then was a slightly modified Warlock Punch.

    • @pizzawonderer5024
      @pizzawonderer5024 Před 3 lety +6

      @@nousername191 They didnt even give him a new animation or anything. They just cropped a sword into his hand and called it a day.

  • @ShaulaXNinja
    @ShaulaXNinja Před 4 lety +614

    "What's the difference?".
    Long story short: Doriyah!

    • @juanrodriguez9971
      @juanrodriguez9971 Před 4 lety +5

      Long for the range short for your life.

    • @MatchupnRemixes
      @MatchupnRemixes Před 4 lety +3

      And F smash and up smash Is just Ike and Down is cloud

    • @MorrisPXG
      @MorrisPXG Před 3 lety

      One uses a Sword

    • @Jumpm4n
      @Jumpm4n Před 3 lety

      If someone swaps falcon and ganon's models and voice lines no one will notice

    • @LocalGoober10
      @LocalGoober10 Před 3 lety +1

      Oh boy! Kid is at kill percent! (30%)
      Time to yolo f-smash!

  • @L0SEIN
    @L0SEIN Před 4 lety +248

    What there worst enemies are:
    Captain falcon: *Ganondorf*
    Ganondorf: *Pichu*
    Pichu: *DO R Y I A H*

    • @mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747
      @mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747 Před 4 lety +35

      I feel like pichu is both ganons worst and best matchup at the same time

    • @jimjam1556
      @jimjam1556 Před 4 lety +5

      @@mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747 In what universe is it his best MU?

    • @TheEmeraldTyrant
      @TheEmeraldTyrant Před 4 lety +5

      @@jimjam1556 it's because pichu does so early. That's about it. Pichu still wrecks him more often than not

    • @jimjam1556
      @jimjam1556 Před 4 lety +8

      @@TheEmeraldTyrant If the Pichu player has any idea how to play the MU they realistically shouldn't lose. Like yeah Pichu dies early but good luck even hitting one of the smallest most nimble characters in the game with one of the slowest and lethargic characters in the game. Ganon needs to rely on hard reads in order to accomplish anything in that MU, whereas Pichu can combo him into infinity off a single whiffed move, or just camp him out. That MUs like 30-70 at best.

    • @TheEmeraldTyrant
      @TheEmeraldTyrant Před 4 lety

      @@jimjam1556 i know. Like i said. It's only cuz he's light and dies early. OTHER THAN THAT pichu mops the floor with ganon

  • @petery6432
    @petery6432 Před 4 lety +182

    The fact that after 4 games of Ganondorf being playable, he has so many moves that look like Falcon's moves, and his sword moves, the thing people have been begging for, are just Ike and Cloud attacks is just depressing. Especially since his Special moves, which generally house the signature moves of most characters, didn't get overhauled in Ultimate.

    • @notlunchbutloafy6360
      @notlunchbutloafy6360 Před 4 lety +3

      cloud's nair is nerfed

    • @CertifiedBruhMoment.
      @CertifiedBruhMoment. Před 4 lety +37

      Instead of a non-canon sword, people should've begged for magic and a float instead.

    • @notlunchbutloafy6360
      @notlunchbutloafy6360 Před 4 lety +6

      @@CertifiedBruhMoment. the sword is canon. But u right

    • @zapp7938
      @zapp7938 Před 4 lety +6

      The sword wasn't used nearly as much compared to some of Ganondorf's other weapons

    • @petery6432
      @petery6432 Před 4 lety +12

      @@CertifiedBruhMoment. He uses a Sword in Twilight Princess. I think that his Smash attacks should be based off of sword attacks that he uses in Twilight Princess, and the rest of his kit be more Magic-based.

  • @taniacaraballo3321
    @taniacaraballo3321 Před 4 lety +47

    Ganondorf has been doing 2 years of yoga to perfect the volcano kick

  • @mrsaturn1011v2
    @mrsaturn1011v2 Před 4 lety +54

    More magic attacks should be given to him in Smash 6

    • @fullfrontal7422
      @fullfrontal7422 Před 3 lety +1

      The magic is not efective with the master sword link have and zelda the light arrow and the magic power,ganon use the triforce of power not magic

    • @RohitSingh-zz2mu
      @RohitSingh-zz2mu Před 3 lety +6

      @@fullfrontal7422 Each triforce grants different powers. Ganon is a magic character, play Zelda games and then compare.

    • @ThatGuyLegend
      @ThatGuyLegend Před 3 lety +2

      That's if we even get a smash 6

  • @polishtoygamer1420
    @polishtoygamer1420 Před 4 lety +94

    We desperately need a Ganondorf rework in the next game.

    • @petery6432
      @petery6432 Před 4 lety +21

      No kidding. Why can't he summon Phantoms, use an electric orb, or warp?

    • @polishtoygamer1420
      @polishtoygamer1420 Před 4 lety +14

      I want him to use his Cape as a reflector and the Orb from Ocarina of time

    • @thelavaslug5465
      @thelavaslug5465 Před 4 lety +2

      Better yet, give him the trident from Hyrule Warriors to make him represent Pig Ganon as well!

    • @guedacheese
      @guedacheese Před 4 lety +8

      Sakurai: Huh? Oh you want him to stay as Captain Falcon right? Got it. I mean it's not like other characters were changed but my Ganondorf is special he gets to stay shit in every game because I decide never to change him for no reason.

    • @honor2425
      @honor2425 Před 4 lety +2

      PolishToy Gamer14
      Not really. I like Ganondorf how he is.
      I would miss him if they changed him.
      I feel like if they reworked him he would be less hype and more campy.
      Ganon is best how he is

  • @AvatarCritic
    @AvatarCritic Před 4 lety +11

    I remember when I first unlocked Ganondorf in Melee back in the day, I was telling people he was a clone of Captain Falcon and nobody believed me at first. It didn't make sense for someone to be a clone of someone else from a different franchise

  • @nicc8451
    @nicc8451 Před 4 lety +29

    2:25 It's actually not the first time, since Ganondorf had a custom move in Smash 4 that let him use his sword from Twilight Princess.

    • @pizzawonderer5024
      @pizzawonderer5024 Před 3 lety +2

      But that was a custom move and not a special move that ganoondorf had by default so technically he doesnt use a sword.
      And besides, they literally just cropped a sword into his hand and called it a day.

  • @nintendonian7776
    @nintendonian7776 Před 4 lety +148

    Honestly, Ganondorf needs a re-moveset.

    • @benshapiro4597
      @benshapiro4597 Před 3 lety +3

      m.czcams.com/video/QOliN6nVxP0/video.html
      Done, this dude is genius

    • @fullfrontal7422
      @fullfrontal7422 Před 3 lety

      Too broken in you dream gano is a clon but same time not and ganon is strong withour magic and sword.

    • @zipjaccet3820
      @zipjaccet3820 Před 3 lety +3

      Like Little Mac

    • @AverageCatz
      @AverageCatz Před 3 lety +6

      This may not be the Ganon we know from the Zelda games, but this is the Ganon we know in Smash

    • @kennardthenon-youtuber9944
      @kennardthenon-youtuber9944 Před 3 lety

      No don't touch Ganondorf and instead introduced a new character called Gannon

  • @longthornhenderson331
    @longthornhenderson331 Před 4 lety +37

    The difference? Ganon shows much more disrespect in his moves

  • @AZUREREV
    @AZUREREV Před 4 lety +159

    Me when Ultimate was announced and showed off Ganon with a sword: OH SHIT.
    Me now: *playing literally anyone else*

    • @mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747
      @mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747 Před 4 lety +7

      I like the fact that I found out recently that the version of ganon smash uses,he never uses a sword in his game(im pretty sure it was from a tech demo for the gamecube back in 2000 for a zelda game that was cancelled for wind waker and theres also a sword similar to that one in hyrule warriors) so they gave the sword to the wrong guy

    • @petery6432
      @petery6432 Před 4 lety +15

      @@mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747 Yeah, they gave Ganondorf a Sword, but cut Twilight Princess Ganondorf out of the game, you know the Ganondorf THAT ACTUALLY USED A SWORD IN HIS HOME GAME. I find it odd they didn't just include both in one slot the way they did Ike.

    • @mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747
      @mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747 Před 4 lety

      @@petery6432 I agree,or what could've happened was a second ganon based on his oot appearance and his old moveset could be used for his twilight princess appearance but he uses his sword a lot more(including maybe a new up b and his down b could be him stabbing forward with his sword)

    • @GBDupree
      @GBDupree Před 4 lety +3

      @@mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747 True, BUT the sword Ganon uses in TP isn't visually consistent in a way. Its a sword of light, so someone seeing him wield that in Smash and hasn't played TP may be confused. Moreover, that sword wouldn't be very good at doing what his Doriyah sword does, since its a smaller sword like a rapier. And Sakurai wanted the Zelda characters to be visually distinct from the previous game and use more designs from the series history (Zelda representing the classic 2D games, Ganon the 3D ones, and Link the new era of open world games that just started), so his OoT design was the best fit because that was GanonDORF's first appearance (before that game it was just Ganon) as well as the most popular 3D Zelda. But doesn't Ganon wield a weapon in his Phantom Ganon appearance in that one fight, as well as his final fight where you play tennis with him? I think it might have been a Trident though (it's been awhile). However, people have been clamoring for Sakurai to give him a sword, so I think what he did was a great middle ground with all this (and the sword is a good design for Ganondorf I think).
      However I think that maybe a trident could take its place just fine in the next game (if there will be one) and I think that might make people happier. But I think people might be happy with his moveset in this game, its a fun one that has made him very popular while still referencing his history and personality. Although I've heard some people still don't like it, but I really don't think it needs fixing, maybe just make a few visual changes to make it feel more like him. Like the moves are essentially the same but have some new additions to please people who like the moveset and those that want something different. So I think maybe have his Down B on the ground could create a Phantom Horse like what he rode in the Phantom Ganon fight (perhaps so that it doesn't create too big a hitbox they could make it more like an effect of magic rather than a full sized horse he rides, so it could be he is engulfed in the magic flames as a semi-transparent horse head leads the charge, kinda like the Falcon in the Falcon Punch I suppose). And his Up B could be redone to more resemble what he does when he throws the balls of lightning in the final fight with him in OoT, while still retaining elements of his current one. First he leaps like he does now, except he thrusts his Trident up as he ascends, and can still grab people with the trident (and if he grabs someone he can still ascend with them unlike now) then at the peak of his jump he swings the trident throwing a lightning ball towards the ground, and if he grabbed the enemy then he throws them instead. And he could have much better control in the air at the peak of his jump like he is floating for a short time. Then his Jab should have a larger hitbox with a magic wind effect (more for visual, since it would likely be too strong if he could send windboxes with every jab) that can shock opponents but isn't too strong. This is referencing his waves of evil energy or whatever it was that he does to Link in the cutscene before his fight in OoT, which I'm pretty sure the Jab is referencing anyways. But I think the Aerials should maybe be made different overall (except the FAir and DAir which are too good and iconic, but DAir could at least be a different animation but the same move). But anyways, those are my thoughts on what can be made different, but I think its good enough already.

  • @swagdrakefan8791
    @swagdrakefan8791 Před 4 lety +68

    Difference in side b’s:
    One works, one doesn’t
    Edit: it was buffed let’s gooooooooo

    • @patricknguyen5645
      @patricknguyen5645 Před 4 lety

      Wdym both of their side b’s work

    • @swagdrakefan8791
      @swagdrakefan8791 Před 4 lety +10

      Patrick Nguyen
      Falcon’s side b is awful.
      It’s so hard to hit
      Lucina can be walking and avoid it no problem

    • @mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747
      @mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747 Před 4 lety +6

      @@swagdrakefan8791 I also want to add that its so inconsistent in the air and its not really a good recovery move since if you miss the ledge at the end of the move then you cant drift to it as well as his up b

    • @IIIISai
      @IIIISai Před 4 lety

      @@swagdrakefan8791 I think falcons side b is good for long combos, ya ik it's ass for air fights though

    • @patricknguyen5645
      @patricknguyen5645 Před 4 lety +1

      ProFish Oh I forgot about that it sometimes whiffs but it’s still a really good combo starter

  • @L10nel_Messi
    @L10nel_Messi Před 3 lety +11

    So the most important things are
    1. Captain: faster/longer, Ganon: stronger/heavier
    2. Ganon's smash attack is sword(very different)
    3. Ganon's side b is a command grab

  • @austinwakanda9310
    @austinwakanda9310 Před 4 lety +36

    The smash community are the type of people to say.
    Goku and vegeta: The same
    Apple and android: The same
    RED AND BLUE: THE SAME!

  • @cheeleong9947
    @cheeleong9947 Před 4 lety +11

    Title: What’s the difference between Captain Falcon and Ganondorf?
    Me: Their Games & Speed

    • @shrike_8136
      @shrike_8136 Před 4 lety +1

      You edited the post but still used the wrong “their”

    • @cheeleong9947
      @cheeleong9947 Před 4 lety +1

      @Shrike _ There I fixed it

  • @keksidy
    @keksidy Před 4 lety +23

    2:24 *ackshually he uses a sword in a custom special in Sm4sh*

    • @pizzawonderer5024
      @pizzawonderer5024 Před 3 lety

      ackshually that was a custom move which are banned in tournaments so technically he doesnt use a sword in sm4sh

    • @monoko1234
      @monoko1234 Před 3 lety

      @@pizzawonderer5024 But people used custom Palutena for Trophy Rush

    • @pizzawonderer5024
      @pizzawonderer5024 Před 3 lety

      @@monoko1234 yeah, but notice how i said TOURNAMENTS which is a completely different thing from trophy rush.

    • @MorrisPXG
      @MorrisPXG Před 3 lety

      @@monoko1234 *HEAVENLY LIGHT*

    • @reecehunter7
      @reecehunter7 Před 3 lety +1

      @@pizzawonderer5024 But consider: Tourneys are not the only way the game is played, you can't base everything off that

  • @marcelklasa9277
    @marcelklasa9277 Před 4 lety +6

    There is only one simple diffrence....
    DORYAH

  • @Pigmcginnyrig
    @Pigmcginnyrig Před 3 lety +14

    You know, Ganondorf would be a lot better if his armor was always active. I mean, what kind of armor stops working randomly?

  • @MartinRodriguez-jy5cx
    @MartinRodriguez-jy5cx Před 4 lety +18

    I dont think him having his sword actually makes him unique, because his smash attacks are just ike's/cloud's smash attacks. And also he never used the sword and was used in a demo of a game that never existed. I would wish for ganon to have a completely new move set where he's a floaty mage with a trident or him as ganon with 2 swords as a beast

    • @joshuabennett8256
      @joshuabennett8256 Před 4 lety +2

      Look up Mage Ganondorf

    • @MartinRodriguez-jy5cx
      @MartinRodriguez-jy5cx Před 3 lety +1

      @@joshuabennett8256 i actually have that mod/played project xp and i love that ganondorf so much. I wish nintendo would put that ganondorf into ultimate

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Před 2 lety

      @@MartinRodriguez-jy5cx Let's face it Ganondorf battles in the Zelda series were never a challenge, except for maybe Pig Ganon. Ganondorf in Smash feels more hype by comparison. Dead man's volley, that weakest spell in villain history.🤦‍♂

    • @Krakenburgvortex79
      @Krakenburgvortex79 Před rokem

      Ganondorf never used a trident in his human form outside of a non-canon game, and was only a floaty mage in Ocarina. In most times he's been fought as a Gerudo, he has mainly used swords and some physical attacks. I'd rather not have my main become another floaty zoner, thank you.

  • @pedrovilasgomes9144
    @pedrovilasgomes9144 Před 3 lety +4

    There's one thing I never understood, and that was why Ganon's recovery is so weak, like, he can freaking fly so why can't even get back at the stage many times

    • @insertcoolnamehere8516
      @insertcoolnamehere8516 Před 2 lety +2

      This. I’m a Zelda fanatic and ganon main and this ticks me off so badly lol

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Před 2 lety

      @@insertcoolnamehere8516 Ridley can barely recover also.

  • @themasterblaze7563
    @themasterblaze7563 Před 4 lety +12

    Knee Smash? "The Knee of Justice" commonly referred to as just "The Knee" is no ordinary smash. Smh.

  • @kenahumuza8832
    @kenahumuza8832 Před 4 lety

    I love this guy's intro so much man its so cool. Great vid btw

  • @noahberman8177
    @noahberman8177 Před 4 lety

    OMG YES! I have been waiting for this one for a while.

  • @ashielilystar6134
    @ashielilystar6134 Před 3 lety +4

    “the falcon punch needs no introduction”
    ahem its called the “FALCON PAWNCH"

    • @BurningWinds
      @BurningWinds Před 3 lety +1

      It's more along the lines of
      FALCON...............PPPPPAAAAAAWWWWWWWNNNNNNCCCCCCHHHH

  • @seanmyster6
    @seanmyster6 Před 4 lety +40

    I consider characters like Ganondorf, Luigi, Roy, and Lucas to be "semi-clones"; meaning that their movesets are conceptually similar to those of other characters, but wildly different in execution.

    • @gregoryhenry8464
      @gregoryhenry8464 Před 4 lety +2

      “Fraternal echos” maybe?

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor Před 4 lety +1

      Ganon is the only semi-clone in that entire line-up

    • @spongeman3090
      @spongeman3090 Před 4 lety +3

      I never thought of Luigi as a semi-echo fighter.

    • @spongeman3090
      @spongeman3090 Před 4 lety +1

      @Elijah Parker Exactly. Mario and Luigi are typically polar opposites.

    • @GmanSir
      @GmanSir Před 3 lety +6

      There are actually three subgroups: Semi-Unique (Luigi, Lucas), Semi-Clone (Falco, Ganondorf), and Full Clone (Daisy, Dark Samus)

  • @saiki3603
    @saiki3603 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the video my man finally someone made this vid

  • @sealvain6810
    @sealvain6810 Před 4 lety +7

    Should Gannondorf star in his own F-Zero game?
    *I didn’t know I needed this until now but get in my life*

  • @noobio5510
    @noobio5510 Před 3 lety +5

    The main difference: Gannon swings his sword twice and kills you

  • @romariomejia5396
    @romariomejia5396 Před 2 lety +3

    You say it's a loss, I say it's a win. I like how similar they are. True icons

  • @tastedmonster86em92
    @tastedmonster86em92 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm a Ganondorf main that plays a bit of Falcon. Watching this video really helped me out thanks mate.

  • @tbxnintendo531
    @tbxnintendo531 Před 4 lety

    Awesome Video 😎

  • @noahvickery5913
    @noahvickery5913 Před 4 lety +11

    Villager and Isabelle for the next edition in this series!

  • @enochfernandocuetomendoza4077

    What’s the name of the outro song? Saw the description of your friend’s soundcloud but I cant find it

  • @SuperDuperNick
    @SuperDuperNick Před rokem +2

    I was so happy when Ganon finally got the sword, something to differentiate himself from Captain Falcon, but it still wasn’t even since their special moves are still identical. yeah they have different properties, and slightly different animations, like Falcon’s Down B doesn’t spike but Ganon’s does, but overall, still the same idea :/

  • @ignacioperez5479
    @ignacioperez5479 Před 4 lety +10

    Actually, a Reverse warlock punch conected while in the air can 0% kill

    • @pizzawonderer5024
      @pizzawonderer5024 Před 3 lety

      Ganondorf cant cuz his jump height is pathetic and he falls too fast. But kirby can thanks to his slow falling speed and multiple jumps, to top it off kirby even has a 1.2x damage and knockback multiplier to copied special moves.

    • @JustAguy006
      @JustAguy006 Před 3 lety

      @@pizzawonderer5024 no I think you confused Ganondorf's fall speed with Falcon as Captain Falcon falls faster while Ganondorf is slower while falling so it could be possible but I agree on the fact that he doesn't have the best jump height.

    • @pizzawonderer5024
      @pizzawonderer5024 Před 3 lety

      @@JustAguy006 Yea ive tested it and he cant land an aerial reversed warlock punch in a regular match.

    • @JustAguy006
      @JustAguy006 Před 3 lety

      @@pizzawonderer5024 ah okay I forgot to say that I don't have a switch and the game so thanks for correcting my mistake.

    • @pizzawonderer5024
      @pizzawonderer5024 Před 3 lety

      @@JustAguy006 I cant tell if youre being sarcastic or not

  • @edgelord8337
    @edgelord8337 Před 4 lety +23

    People used to call ganondorf the "crappy clone of captain falcon" but this guy can warlock punch and has a sword.
    I say it's worth calling him unique.

    • @polishtoygamer1420
      @polishtoygamer1420 Před 4 lety +1

      Well not for my standards

    • @Wings_Of_Nightfall
      @Wings_Of_Nightfall Před 4 lety +3

      Who needs speed when you have an Armorslayer and Saitama's Punch?

    • @seniorshrek6197
      @seniorshrek6197 Před 4 lety +1

      His up and forward smashes are just copy and pasted from Ike and Cloud.

    • @miitopianlife6180
      @miitopianlife6180 Před 4 lety

      @@seniorshrek6197 at least he uses the power of DORIYAH

    • @theendersmirk5851
      @theendersmirk5851 Před 4 lety +4

      I think the real problem is "why does Ganondorf, a dude who uses either a sword or ranged magic, have a fighting style so similar to a dude who fights like an anime protagonist, despite it having little to do with his original game, if any?"

  • @oziasazrielben-israel6750

    Ganon was more of a clone in previous versions

    • @yovis300
      @yovis300 Před 11 měsíci

      And previous smash but now it’s a semi clone

  • @jakobmcfadden9163
    @jakobmcfadden9163 Před 4 lety

    This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for. This is EXACTLY, I don’t mean to sound like Cat Williams, but this is EXACTLY what I’ve been waiting for!

  • @wachipungoexdi6902
    @wachipungoexdi6902 Před 4 lety

    very good video 👍 : D

  • @smilingman4299
    @smilingman4299 Před 4 lety +4

    I honestly thinks Ganondorf's aerials are fine as they are. If something needs to be changed, it's his specials.

  • @ghst7848
    @ghst7848 Před 4 lety +3

    GREAT, now i want a version of the game where Ganon has the Blue Falcon as his final smash

  • @umcorinthianoguitarrista
    @umcorinthianoguitarrista Před 3 lety +2

    I have ideias to Ganon air attacks:
    B air: do a sword attack like F smash, but backwards and is stronger on the final of the sword
    D air: do a sword swing downwards and is stronger at the start

  • @alexherrera9081
    @alexherrera9081 Před 4 lety

    Great video can you do fox and falco next?

  • @andrewt329
    @andrewt329 Před 4 lety +19

    To this day I still don't see why Ganondorf has yet to be given his own built from the ground up move-set. Rushing him in Melee has basically ruined him for the entire series.
    Just add in a second F-Zero character with Ganon's old move-set if you've gotta have it so much it's worth ruining an iconic character forever.

    • @benhuang2773
      @benhuang2773 Před 4 lety +2

      Because changing too much would have meant creating an exception to "Everyone is Here." And how many people actually _care_ about the F-Zero cast? Current Ganondorf mains don't just want to keep the moveset, they want to keep the moveset on a Zelda series character.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Před 2 lety

      @@benhuang2773 Let's face it Ganondorf battles in the Zelda series were never a challenge, except for maybe Pig Ganon. Ganondorf in Smash feels more hype by comparison. Dead man's volley, that weakest spell in villain history.🤦‍♂

  • @flamingpaper7751
    @flamingpaper7751 Před 4 lety +7

    Ganon still being a clone (moveset wise) is honestly super lazy. Having a sword doesn't change that at all

    • @thelavaslug5465
      @thelavaslug5465 Před 4 lety +4

      Especially since he's never used that sword in a single Zelda game and the animations he has with said sword are just reused from other characters.

    • @flamingpaper7751
      @flamingpaper7751 Před 4 lety +1

      @@thelavaslug5465 Yeah Smash Ultimate feels almost rushed in some ways. Link was updated to be his BotW appearance, but they barely even changed him. It should have been a full overhaul instead of him having remote bombs and basically nothing else. Young Link is fine as he is honestly, but Toon Link so pointless. At least give him unique items instead of the basic Link bomb, boomerang, and bow for specials.
      And don't get me started on how Peach/Daisy, and Richter/Simon have almost no differences and could easily be swapped between. Or how Chrom makes no sense with him literally appearing in Robin's final smash and even victory screen sometimes, which feels super strange. Or how Palutena's guidance was updated for Piranha Plant, yet none of the previous 5 new fighters (Plant was obviously finished and was just delayed to advertise the DLC). Or how the right platform on Pokemon Stadium 1 is slightly angled all of a sudden, which is clearly just a mistake. Yeah the game should have been updated post release beyond characters

    • @petery6432
      @petery6432 Před 4 lety

      @@thelavaslug5465 He uses a Sword in Twilight Princess. His Smash attacks should have been based of that game, but they decided to go cheap and just copy-paste over moves from Ike and Cloud.

    • @thelavaslug5465
      @thelavaslug5465 Před 4 lety

      @@petery6432 Yeah I know, but since that Sword has only been used in one game, and the rest of his swords are also exclusive to one game, I still feel like he should use his recurring trident. Or maybe revert Ganondorf to his Twilight Princess design with sword and magic fighting style and then make Pig Ganon his own character using the trident.

    • @thelavaslug5465
      @thelavaslug5465 Před 4 lety +1

      @@flamingpaper7751 Yeah, I definetly agree with you there. While I am satisfied with Ultimate overall, it just feels like it could have used a few more months of development time to flesh out the clones and make them feel more distinct. Also, I still find the Chrom situation really stupid. Like, would it have that hard replacing the Chrom in Robins moveset with someone like Lissa or Tharja?!

  • @eye-saacthegalaxyeye4567

    Good thing you put f - zero gx music

  • @minimaidenist1936
    @minimaidenist1936 Před 3 lety

    Good video and great editing, but you got a lot of information wrong about Ganon throughout the video. Other than that, I really liked this video :)

  • @gamingyoshifanatic4082
    @gamingyoshifanatic4082 Před 4 lety +21

    Can you do Fox and Falco next?

    • @dootdoodle569
      @dootdoodle569 Před 4 lety +5

      I was thinking that too lol

    • @AlexEXE
      @AlexEXE  Před 4 lety +12

      Yup! That'll be the next WTD.

    • @ValorFennekin_
      @ValorFennekin_ Před 4 lety

      @@AlexEXE how about Ryu and Ken ;)

    • @pizzawonderer5024
      @pizzawonderer5024 Před 4 lety +3

      But apart from their special attacks ALL of their moves are different

    • @gamingyoshifanatic4082
      @gamingyoshifanatic4082 Před 4 lety +1

      @@pizzawonderer5024 Still, would be nice to have some more in depth analysis

  • @pacoramon9468
    @pacoramon9468 Před 3 lety +3

    I'm glad they changed Ganondorf in Ultimate to be less of a Captain Falcon clone.

  • @tomarune
    @tomarune Před 4 lety

    I love the Alex.exe's community there all so smart.... and they RESPOND!

  • @Some_Electric_Boi
    @Some_Electric_Boi Před 4 lety

    Sometimes I rewatch this video just for that sweet outro music but now I wanna see Ganon star in an F-Zero game

  • @OPcakeYT
    @OPcakeYT Před 2 lety +3

    every what is the difference video: Mario getting suffer

  • @Blazedlevelbort
    @Blazedlevelbort Před 4 lety +15

    Smash 4 only players: yeah they are pretty much the same
    Smash Ultimate only players: oh you sweet summer child, hes just smaller, faster, weaker ganondorf! how could you be so wrong?

    • @juanrodriguez9971
      @juanrodriguez9971 Před 4 lety

      Sm4sh player: "Wow, his smash attacks are different now? That's amazing!"

  • @williamsuero8145
    @williamsuero8145 Před 4 lety +1

    Good vid

  • @sam.ithink2299
    @sam.ithink2299 Před 3 lety

    Just some positive criticism, I think it would've been cool if you filmed all of the falcon parts on an F-Zero stage. Great video btw!

  • @-creev
    @-creev Před 4 lety +5

    Personally, I'm fine with Ganon being a pseudo clone of Falcon. Yeah it would be tight if he had his own original moveset, but I've grown to love this slow but heavy hitting Gerudo with a big ass sword.

  • @lycantubeves5992
    @lycantubeves5992 Před 4 lety +3

    What's the difference between lucina and chrom? Xd
    Just kidding, What's the difference between KEN AND RYU
    One ultimate thing, maybe they could give that moveset to black shadow from F-zero and create a new moveset for ganondorf, I really wish that, at least like DLC I don't care I pay it

  • @jamiegioca9448
    @jamiegioca9448 Před 3 lety +1

    Ganon went from 'Slow Cptn. Falcon" to "Slow Cptn. Falcon with a bigass sword"

  • @joshuagutierrez7269
    @joshuagutierrez7269 Před 3 lety +1

    One Is Crazy Fast And feeds off of Easy to use combos, while the Other Is hard to use and takes Time to Actually use him efficiently

  • @darkpit456
    @darkpit456 Před 4 lety +3

    When you make a copy cat character, you make them from the same series! Why would you mix two different characters from two completely different series? All of the echo fighters or fighters like Pichu, Dr. Mario, Young Link, and Toon Link are from the same series. The Legend of Zelda is a game series about Wizards, magic spells, fairies, emeralds, and an evil and dark lord called Ganondorf and Link has to stop him with any light weapons and F-Zero is all about death racing, bounty hunting, and the one and only Captain Falcon.

    • @jimjam1556
      @jimjam1556 Před 4 lety +1

      Ganon was a last minute addition to melee, a game that was already incredibly rushed. Falcon had a similar character model to Ganon (both tall humanoids) and so they just copied his moveset and tweaked it. Even Falcon himself was a product of time saving; in 64 Falcon was only added as a means of re-using the assets from the original demo build that just had generic fighters, which is why Falcon in smash has almost nothing to do with his home series either.

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 Před 2 lety

      @@jimjam1556 At least Ganon embodies POWER.

  • @TotPocket
    @TotPocket Před rokem +1

    "Up tilt leaves Ganondorf vulnerable"
    Dude is just begging to get hit in the Doriyahs the way he picks his leg up

  • @prolificpoultry4899
    @prolificpoultry4899 Před 2 lety

    Hiya does anyone know the name of the song that was used in the outro? Or if it’s based on something?

  • @roberdelss
    @roberdelss Před 4 lety +2

    The reason I main Ganondorf is because he is so read heavy. I've taken a-many stocks with JUST 3-5 hits.

  • @Amyroseplaysstuff
    @Amyroseplaysstuff Před 10 měsíci +2

    I say that Captain Falcon's Dad should get a reworked moveset but Black Shadow get added into the next game and uses Captain Falcon's Dad's old moveset.

  • @sosukeaizen7056
    @sosukeaizen7056 Před 4 lety +2

    Kinda wish they are Phantom Ganon as a dlc. Since they have about 3 Mario's and 7 Marths, it wouldn't be a problem

  • @peupater7414
    @peupater7414 Před 4 lety

    YES! I KNEW I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO ANALYSED THIS DURING QUARANTINE!

  • @leonigama5597
    @leonigama5597 Před dnem

    good job about What's the Difference between Captain Falcon and Ganondorf? (SSBU)

  • @banefamily85
    @banefamily85 Před 4 lety

    More of these types of videos!

  • @mariapilgrim7399
    @mariapilgrim7399 Před 4 lety

    Ganon has the same moves and Captain Falcon but different
    I'm so finally glad someone brought this up

  • @rey-9911
    @rey-9911 Před 4 lety

    Gabon final smash at the start with the sword swing spikes

  • @dragonnest7811
    @dragonnest7811 Před 4 lety

    I remember once that I've digged someone with the Falcon Kick in the air, but I haven't managed to do it again. I gotta be around a sweet spot 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @Wings_Of_Nightfall
    @Wings_Of_Nightfall Před 4 lety +2

    Fun fact: In 4 and Brawl, Ganondorf could use his Volcano Kick on top of a rolling crate and fly forward at an incredible speed, being a hard to hit but insanely epic combo. When items were changed to not be affected by his Volcano Kick's windbox, he sadly lost that ability.

  • @whatnamelol1835
    @whatnamelol1835 Před 4 lety

    Ya know Alex, when you were explainimg falcon's up smash, you could have said that his backmeat was exposed

  • @Sgt-Wolf
    @Sgt-Wolf Před 4 lety +1

    Ok to cover what you missed about there final smashes.
    Captain falcons final smash is just a generic flashy super but ganondorfs can do two things the obvious one is he charges into everyone in front of him knocking them back and killing if at high enough damage.
    And the second thing he can do is at the start he swings his swords down which acts as a powerful spike that acts as a powerful edge guarding tool.

  • @emanueltheodorus1056
    @emanueltheodorus1056 Před 4 lety

    Movement animation comparison, when?

  • @ethanepic.s
    @ethanepic.s Před 4 lety +1

    Can u do Mario and Luigi next?

  • @Zoniko
    @Zoniko Před 4 lety +2

    *_The Next is:_*
    _What's the Differece between Fox and Falco? (SSBU)_
    _:D_

  • @awesomeeevee133
    @awesomeeevee133 Před 4 lety

    You should do a version of this for Melee

  • @Wheaty03
    @Wheaty03 Před 4 lety +1

    4:08 bruh that is the Knee of Justice™

  • @Kill3r360
    @Kill3r360 Před 3 lety

    Still checking the ads before the video, but the difference is the sword :d

  • @prolificpoultry4899
    @prolificpoultry4899 Před 2 lety

    Does anyone know the name of the song used for the outro?

  • @Gloom_Lore
    @Gloom_Lore Před 3 lety +1

    Since Ganondorf finally is able to use his sword, can we get a petition to allow Falcon to use his gun that he has?

  • @galaxybrain3259
    @galaxybrain3259 Před 3 lety +2

    The difference you ask? Captain falcon gets all the buffs, Ganon gets none.

  • @mewtron5242
    @mewtron5242 Před 4 lety +2

    Imagine being the king of evil and can summon demons and use magic but just go "falcon kick"

  • @nynokul9376
    @nynokul9376 Před 4 lety +2

    They forgot that ganon’s down A kills anybody at 0% in mid aid

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor Před 4 lety

      That depends on the position. Also, it doesn’t matter at all when discussing whether or not he’s a clone

    • @nynokul9376
      @nynokul9376 Před 4 lety

      Edgeperor but it’s still a difference between captain falcon’s down A

  • @gaylynnhorncri
    @gaylynnhorncri Před 2 měsíci

    I just wish they lean more into his magic abilities. Oot he could curse things, his energy blast, he could float in the air, and other games he could make shadow forms of himself.

  • @sallowmyst1303
    @sallowmyst1303 Před rokem +1

    I wonder if there's a mod that puts Ganondorf's model over Captain Falcon. That'd be neat