Exactly. And of course being the source for TMZ, then taking the kids out, conveniently where paps could get clear pictures, like they are just rag dolls, just to look like a good father. So disappointed in him. IF the rumours ARE true.
@@npats550 exactly. it’s so odd that we’ve never seen him with the girls until he tried to paint her as a not present mom. now we getting pap shoots of joe with both the girls. like come on now joe you’re making it way too obvious you’re playing dirty
I've seen multiple people who didn't even know they had kids because of how well she protected them from the spotlight and he ruined it all to get paparazzi take pics of him looking like a "good father"
let’s be clear, he deliberately planned this. suggesting to take the kids because he knew she was filming in the UK, probably thought she wouldn’t catch wind of what’s swirling in american gossip when his team implied she’s not a present mother. filed for divorce in the US because the kids are to remain in the location they are at when filed, which is with him. his team was so quick to put out narratives back to back
What gets me is that during his Disney channel days his family band was made out to be “deeply religious” they’ve shown themselves half naked, sang sexually suggestive music, and now this dudes trying to lie publicly about his wife in order to gain custody of his children AND justify a divorce. All shameless sins.
Exactly my thoughts. Truly on point comment. The perfidious planning is so obvious. Distasteful and disgusting. I don't know how, but I'd like to see him being punished for all what he has done to Sophie and their daughters.
That’s why he filed in the USA because he knew (even without denying her the children’s passports) that while divorce proceedings are ongoing….the court will order the children remain where they are currently located. Very calculating how he did things and tried to smear her at the same time as a bad mum 🤦♀️ he just dug his own grave, because yes though he will win temporarily by forcing them to stay in the USA but ultimately it will go against him in final proceedings…judges don’t like such underhanded ish in family courts.
He's literally so gross. She was talking about the issues privately in her own home and he went and blew it all up. It feels so unplanned and unhinged. I feel like there's so much more to the history of Joe Jonas's villain story that we all just don't know. I pray that this coverage of him and general dislike will make others feel better about coming out about their stories of mistreatment.
I just hate that news outlets care so much about celebrities. They’re real people too, i feel bad for their poor kids. If anyone has ever experienced their parents divorcing you know how heart wrenching it is. Hope they’re all ok.
Well depends on where you live. Even UK has mass stabbings in schools. But I doubt these rich people has to worry about anything because their kids would be in the best private schools and low crimes areas.
He's not doing anything wrong. He's literally just keeping the kids in their primary legal residence (the States) and Sophie is claiming "international kidnapping". Lol. For what? Keeping the kids at home? That's literally his legal obligation. Like you're not legally ALLOWED to move kids around the world DURING a divorce case. When Joe agreed to move to England before... he pictured them living as a married couple in England. But the marriage broke down. Now he doesn't want to move to England anymore. So he doesn't consent to changing their joint kids primary address anymore (it has to be a unanimous agreement by both parents). So what is he doing wrong? The Mother doesn't have any extra "control" of the kids than the Father. They are equal. And Joe Jonas is NOT moving the kids to Australia or Canada (which would require Sophie's consent). He is simply....... not doing anything. He's just staying put with the kids in their old home, not changing anything at all... (which does not require Sophie's consent, obviously.)
Soo creepy he was listening to the footage of her and her friend. I don’t think the first thing they’re going to talk about is him, so I don’t think he got a notification someone was at the door at check to see who visiting. He was watching them sitting down having a convo. That’s probably not the first time he’s done that too
Let's be clear for one moment: his team could've easily said that she was badmouthing him but noooo. They chose to keep it vague so people can speculate and the worst scenarios could be trending. I even thought she did something to the kids but then again he would've used that against her. My conclusion is: this was planned since the day he took the kids back to the US knowing that she'll be filming and that he was going on tour. And the smear campaign was a plan to get him full custody but it backfired.
I agree. I bet he pressured her into letting him take them with him, then picked a fight to use as an excuse. For all we know she could have been venting to a friend about the fight and that’s his “ring” video.
that being said, I met Kevin Jonas at disney world. He noticed my sister and i (19, 23) trying not to look at them and his body guard came over and asked us if we wanted to meet him. He was extremely nice and down to earth and they didn’t have to do that :)
It’s sad. They’re two people who fell out of love and lost respect for each other. It happens. It’s so much worse when it plays out in public. I feel really sad for the kids who have to deal with the whole world knowing all the messy and painful information about their parents divorce. If Joe or his team were really the ones feeding stories to the press, they are truly shit people for turning this into a spectacle.
i still find it so weird and gross that joes team (allegedly joes team) spent weeks slandering sophie and he didn’t even speak out about it. like regardlsss of your relationship that is the mother of your children. it’s insane that he didn’t even try to say something like “even tho me and sophie are going through things rn i don’t agree with what’s being said about her” letting your team or even the media shit on her was so weird
Slightly off topic, but the idea of writing a homeowner to ask to purchase their home seems wild to me. Idk. It sounds like the house wasn't for sale to begin with. That's rich people shenanigans
You’d think but it’s become more common my friend just had to do it because she couldn’t offer more money but she could only match an offer and it made the person like her more
my guess is that it was likely already for sale or their realtor told them it would be on the market soon and they were hoping to stand out with this letter. it’s actually fairly common.
this definitely happens!! especially the way the market is now, it gets to the point that a few buyers are willing to pay top dollar so the homeowners (especially ones selling a house with a lot of sentimental value) will often try to chose people who will live in the home for a long time, a raise a family in it, and not make too many renovations rather than someone buying it as a vacation home or a rental property
I dont like weighing in but the safest place for the kids is the UK. Im sorry id never in good conscience raise my kids in the US ever. Free healthcare, free education, schools are safe, like the UK isnt without its flaws, but it is sm better than the US
@@Binstabih The UK learns about world history and that includes US history, and they can name capitols, countries, and continents. And agreed, they are less likely to get shot by a disgruntled student. If you break a limb or have to have an appendectomy, you don't have remortgage a house to do so.
I heard that on the doorbell cam, she was caught saying that the Jonas brothers actually was not that good and that Nick was the better Jonas brother of the group 😂
i saw so many people saying that this is proof of "gaylor" but like what a gross time to assume someones sexuality, i would do this for any friend if i had the means necessary. Its kinda scary that it implies yall dont care about helping your friends unless they are your partner
It’s precisely guys like him who complain the most about family court and then they try and pull underhanded shit like this that violates all prearranged, written agreements, in order to spitefully control their partners and children. The loudest “victims” in society. And then they peg the Mother as being the one doing it. Anything to get out of your responsibilities as easily as possible.
what makes this so sad is how the kids are being pawns throughout this whole thing Sophie never wanted her kids out in the media and it takes one second for joe to show his kids it shows his attention to this whole lawsuit everything for a publicity stunt to make his argument sound better then Sophie
So tired of this little princess! And no, I’m not talking about Sophie. This MFer broke up with his wife and mother of his 2 children through social media and is desperate to look like the good parent? Gross! Despicable behavior!
That part about breaking up with his wife on social media is an obvious lie because they had a fight that triggered the divorce on his birthday few weeks before hand and she literally made an Instagram post on social media less than 24hrs to the divorce filing that she posted she mutually and amicably ended their marriage as a united decision. You don't post something like that if you didn't agree to the divorce. Plus based on the divorce documents it literally said it was mutual decision. If she actually believe her husband wrongfully abducted her kids and wrongfully filed a divorce process she could literally filed the Hague lawsuit in UK forcing the kids and Joe to travel to the UK for the court hearing. She only filed the Hague lawsuit after she was in NY talking with the lawyers and how the lawyer literally told them both there is a court order that prevent the kids from leaving the country while in the process of a divorce and the lawyer was holding the passports to prevent them from breaking the law. If the divorce was filed in the UK the same thing would had happened. They would be charged with international kidnapping if they attempt to take the kids out of the country without settling their divorce and custody agreements. Plus Joe made a statement agreeing to share custody and responsibilities and doesn't mind kids living in both UK and US. Sophie hasn't agreed to shared custody and she also made statements about how Joe promised her the UK property and how he put down 10% down payment on her dream home and wrote a real estate love letter to make the purchase. The house is under contingency until December and if Joe backs down on paying for the house Sophie will be responsible for the property if she stills want it. And based on her networth she can't afford the €9 million UK home because her networth is only $12 million. She also signed a Prenup so she won't be able to get any money from Joe. This whole case sounds like she want full custody so she could get Joe to pay for her living situation in the UK through child support. It's also really hard to enforce payment for alimony and child support through international divorces.
My grown son said his first thought, when the news broke, is that Joe Jonas has another woman. That’s why he filed and that’s why he tried to smear her, so she’d look like the bad guy and not him.
Seems on the surface that Joe calculated this move in a sneaky way and his team was very deceitful. They were obviously going to live and raise the children in England. That should be what happens. Not cool Joe 😒 I hope Sophie gets custody and the girls are raised in the UK as it will be much better for them. Sad Joe’s team chose to put this out in the public. Poor Sophie as she is usually not about the media being in her business. So sad.
when it comes to public figures and theyre kids and court cases. they really should be protected more if thats the wishes of the parents and yeah, I hope there is change for that
I really feel for their daughters (names should have stayed private they’re minors for fucks sake.) to watch their parents like this in the media, I hope they are able to hide some of this from them. It must be so hard on them 😢
I don't think he ever planned this to be settled privately. He wanted to blast her in the media. At least from my point of view. What happened to a human decency...?!?🤦🏻♀️
That's normal. We met the couple who preo-wned our house a few times. Even for dinner. Not that we liked them so much, we just did the best to get our dream house
Here you can get almost anything on a state case through the freedom of information act. Marriages and divorces are usually public record tho. In the UK the privacy laws are different
There are strict child protection laws when it comes to court cases involving children in the UK that restrict media from publishing any identitify information about a child. so in the UK I'm quite sure it is illegal for any media outlet to publish a name of a child from a court case unless the court allows it. Media publishing a name with out consent from a court document would definitely be a scandal. (Its also important to note that countries in the UK all have their own legislative framework on childprotection and safeguarding but I think it's the same in England)
I think Sophie is keeping her issues with him close to the vest. To me it appears Joe does not look healthy. He looks gaunt and very thin to me. His skin looks a little sallow too. I would not be surprised to find out he is spiraling.
Oh dear I am so sad to hear their kids got exposed. I am not sure if UK is like us where court documents are public, but I would hope with any trials whether celebrity or not kids names should not be public.
Very true observation. One could argue that she has no obligation to say anything because it's not her marriage. At the same time- she too used to cover up her baby's face on social media too, for privacy- as Sophie did, but Joe didn't respect the mother's decision on that, if it proved that he was a better parent. This whole situation has icky, messy vibes, and despite liking and thinking the guy was nice and decent before...this makes me question that.
This whole divorce has nothing to do with feminism. It's just 2 rich adults can't agreeing with each other and they want what they want. Just shared custody already, she can live in UK with her kids half the time and He can have the kids live in the US half the time. Both of them literally made public statements on social media agreeing to the divorce as a mutually decision. Back tracking now and lying is just a contradiction. Anyone getting involved in other people's petty disagreements are just fueling the drama for the public especially making it so high profile and obvious PR stunt. Priyanka Chopra just isn't getting into other people's private affairs because it's not about her and she won't make it about her. Unlike someone else who literally make anything a high profile drama just being involved.
I mean it’s none of her business. I don’t involve myself in my sisters relationship details because it’s not my business. They’re adults. It’s also bold to assume that she hasn’t said anything behind doors, why would she announce that out loud when it’s something that shouldn’t even be public.
My whole this is why can’t they be civil!? It’s CHILDREN INVOLVED. Somebody should be the bigger person for the sake of the kids. It’s annoying as hell.
It’s weird asf too expose their baby name the disrespect is real and the obsession over this divorce I couldn’t imagine going through this in the public eye
I’m not a celebrity, not a person with major wealth. But I have a child. I’m sorry both of them failing! Father on tour with his band, mother filming a movie or series. So what Nannie’s raising their kids come on. Even to say relatives raising them isn’t cool! Aside from the divorce I’m sorry for their kids
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As someone who also has a 1 and 3 year old right now myself (around the same ages as their kids), I can tell you they are too young to decide this right now 😂😅
Someone who uses the children as pawns should not have custody. Their best interest is not in his heart. He is using them to be in control and have the power over sophie.
This is gonna work like I don’t understand why Taylor Swift his ex girlfriend is giving her an apartment Clearly, somethings going on, because why would she accept it if she is a successful actress ?
Taylor is letting Sophie and the girls stay in her extra apartment (which is an investment property for Taylor) because Sophie and her daughters were staying in a hotel for the time being, due to the fact that she had planned to take them back to the UK instead of staying in New York. Since the plans changed so abruptly with Joe filing for divorce behind Sophie’s back and Joe withholding the girls’ passports, Sophie needed temporary accommodations while this custody and living situation is figured out in the courts.
I don’t get how you think it’s weird that people are fascinated by celebrity baby names? Your entire career revolves around reporting useless celebrity news
Man who cares, he doesn’t want his kid living that far from him and we all know how u.k court works, look at amber heard. At the end of the day they’re rich and they’ll keep living and they have support from their rich friends.
I can understand how joes opinion changed on living in england. I wouldn’t want to move to my exs native land when my support system in in the United States. I would only want to live in the uk if I was with my partner. I don’t think the note should hold weight to be honest. But I also think one should live in ny and one in uk and just travel
i’m not in favor of joe at all but with that being said, i’m not a fan of sophie thinking the kids should STILL alive out their lives in the uk after they separated. that might have been the plan when they were together, things changed and it’s not fair to joe nor those kids to have them live full time in the uk.
@@caketropolis that doesn’t really matter tbh and from what I’ve seen/heard, they haven’t been in the uk for awhile, they’ve been in the us while their mom was working in the uk. I’m not saying they shouldn’t ever go back, but the custody should be equal. They’re both financially stable and present in their children’s lives, one parent shouldn’t limit the other parent in this situation. As a child of divorce, it’s only going to mess with them
For everyone sad about their “poor children” … they will be fine. Everyone experiences trauma and strife to some degree. The difference is their children will still have money to bail them out.
What upsets me is it's known that Sophie wanted the kids lives to remain private and then this happens.
Exactly. And of course being the source for TMZ, then taking the kids out, conveniently where paps could get clear pictures, like they are just rag dolls, just to look like a good father. So disappointed in him. IF the rumours ARE true.
@@npats550 exactly. it’s so odd that we’ve never seen him with the girls until he tried to paint her as a not present mom. now we getting pap shoots of joe with both the girls. like come on now joe you’re making it way too obvious you’re playing dirty
With a narcissistic dad, that's impossible
@@AlexUTTP876what?
I've seen multiple people who didn't even know they had kids because of how well she protected them from the spotlight and he ruined it all to get paparazzi take pics of him looking like a "good father"
It’s actually disgusting that the media would reveal their second child’s name. Absolutely not regard for her privacy, just looking for a pay day.
let’s be clear, he deliberately planned this. suggesting to take the kids because he knew she was filming in the UK, probably thought she wouldn’t catch wind of what’s swirling in american gossip when his team implied she’s not a present mother. filed for divorce in the US because the kids are to remain in the location they are at when filed, which is with him. his team was so quick to put out narratives back to back
What gets me is that during his Disney channel days his family band was made out to be “deeply religious” they’ve shown themselves half naked, sang sexually suggestive music, and now this dudes trying to lie publicly about his wife in order to gain custody of his children AND justify a divorce. All shameless sins.
@@ville__what is wrong with you Jesus.
I think he planned it too. What a dick.
@@kittystetson6737they’re a troll with a fitting username
Exactly my thoughts. Truly on point comment.
The perfidious planning is so obvious. Distasteful and disgusting.
I don't know how, but I'd like to see him being punished for all what he has done to Sophie and their daughters.
“Accusing Sophie of just wanting the divorce to play out in the UK instead of the US” nah that’s what YOU are doing Joe
Yes because he’s a us resident and likely had a prenup that is better enforced in America. Getting divorced in the uk is dumb
@@2299mikey No one is saying they want to get divorced in the UK idiot
That’s why he filed in the USA because he knew (even without denying her the children’s passports) that while divorce proceedings are ongoing….the court will order the children remain where they are currently located.
Very calculating how he did things and tried to smear her at the same time as a bad mum 🤦♀️ he just dug his own grave, because yes though he will win temporarily by forcing them to stay in the USA but ultimately it will go against him in final proceedings…judges don’t like such underhanded ish in family courts.
What’s the saying, “he who smelt it, delt it.”
You're right.
He's literally so gross. She was talking about the issues privately in her own home and he went and blew it all up. It feels so unplanned and unhinged. I feel like there's so much more to the history of Joe Jonas's villain story that we all just don't know. I pray that this coverage of him and general dislike will make others feel better about coming out about their stories of mistreatment.
I think he's possibly narcissistic
@@Dreamkeeper_101I'm quite sure he is narcissistic. You have to be if you can do things this vile and unhinged.
Despicable.
I just hate that news outlets care so much about celebrities. They’re real people too, i feel bad for their poor kids. If anyone has ever experienced their parents divorcing you know how heart wrenching it is. Hope they’re all ok.
it’s even more frustrating the joe jonas is using them as a prop in an attempt to have the upper hand.
Tell that to their dad that put them in this situation.
Who cares anyway. But I made a video about a girl dylng and she was crying in pain(try not to Laugh video..)))❤
But yet ur here 😂
News outlets care because people care
IMO, if i could choose to live in either USA or UK as a child, I would choose UK 100%. Less chance of being shot during Biology class.
The US is ghetto 😅
I have godchildren in both countries of similar ages - in the UK I’ve never heard their parents worrying about anything that those in the USA do.
Who cares anyway. But I made a video about a girl dylng and she was crying in pain(try not to Laugh video..)))❤
fr. the US simply isn’t safe to be having kids.
Well depends on where you live. Even UK has mass stabbings in schools. But I doubt these rich people has to worry about anything because their kids would be in the best private schools and low crimes areas.
I have a friend who had to go through the British family courts. None of the details would have been allowed to be made public!
Is your friend someone famous? Or well known?
We are tired of this man
He's not doing anything wrong. He's literally just keeping the kids in their primary legal residence (the States) and Sophie is claiming "international kidnapping". Lol. For what? Keeping the kids at home? That's literally his legal obligation. Like you're not legally ALLOWED to move kids around the world DURING a divorce case.
When Joe agreed to move to England before... he pictured them living as a married couple in England. But the marriage broke down. Now he doesn't want to move to England anymore. So he doesn't consent to changing their joint kids primary address anymore (it has to be a unanimous agreement by both parents). So what is he doing wrong? The Mother doesn't have any extra "control" of the kids than the Father. They are equal. And Joe Jonas is NOT moving the kids to Australia or Canada (which would require Sophie's consent). He is simply....... not doing anything. He's just staying put with the kids in their old home, not changing anything at all... (which does not require Sophie's consent, obviously.)
nobody he is f'ing hot
Who cares anyway. But I made a video about a girl dylng and she was crying in pain(try not to Laugh video..)))❤
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@@aditisharma2947 Yeah, and when he divorces you, your kids don't even get the house. They live out of hotels. Real "man" and "dad" he is.
Soo creepy he was listening to the footage of her and her friend. I don’t think the first thing they’re going to talk about is him, so I don’t think he got a notification someone was at the door at check to see who visiting. He was watching them sitting down having a convo. That’s probably not the first time he’s done that too
Let's be clear for one moment: his team could've easily said that she was badmouthing him but noooo. They chose to keep it vague so people can speculate and the worst scenarios could be trending. I even thought she did something to the kids but then again he would've used that against her.
My conclusion is: this was planned since the day he took the kids back to the US knowing that she'll be filming and that he was going on tour. And the smear campaign was a plan to get him full custody but it backfired.
I agree. I bet he pressured her into letting him take them with him, then picked a fight to use as an excuse. For all we know she could have been venting to a friend about the fight and that’s his “ring” video.
that being said, I met Kevin Jonas at disney world. He noticed my sister and i (19, 23) trying not to look at them and his body guard came over and asked us if we wanted to meet him. He was extremely nice and down to earth and they didn’t have to do that :)
It’s sad. They’re two people who fell out of love and lost respect for each other. It happens. It’s so much worse when it plays out in public. I feel really sad for the kids who have to deal with the whole world knowing all the messy and painful information about their parents divorce. If Joe or his team were really the ones feeding stories to the press, they are truly shit people for turning this into a spectacle.
For me it’s sad that the father of these children created all of this 🤷🏻♀️
No they didn't he fell out of love with her and wanted to be sneaky and let her know she wasn't planning on divorcing him before this all happened lol
Who cares anyway. But I made a video about a girl dylng and she was crying in pain(try not to Laugh video..)))❤
@@ville__and who cares abt that lol
@@ville__ using a girl pain for views yeah no one gonna watch your videos
i still find it so weird and gross that joes team (allegedly joes team) spent weeks slandering sophie and he didn’t even speak out about it. like regardlsss of your relationship that is the mother of your children. it’s insane that he didn’t even try to say something like “even tho me and sophie are going through things rn i don’t agree with what’s being said about her” letting your team or even the media shit on her was so weird
I’m no Swifty, but Taylor is such a good friend. I wish we could all have a friend like her! What she’s doing with Sophie is amazing.
Slightly off topic, but the idea of writing a homeowner to ask to purchase their home seems wild to me. Idk. It sounds like the house wasn't for sale to begin with. That's rich people shenanigans
You’d think but it’s become more common my friend just had to do it because she couldn’t offer more money but she could only match an offer and it made the person like her more
my guess is that it was likely already for sale or their realtor told them it would be on the market soon and they were hoping to stand out with this letter. it’s actually fairly common.
I been tryna make it out the hood so on my CZcams channel i do food reviews while I’m high 🤧
this definitely happens!! especially the way the market is now, it gets to the point that a few buyers are willing to pay top dollar so the homeowners (especially ones selling a house with a lot of sentimental value) will often try to chose people who will live in the home for a long time, a raise a family in it, and not make too many renovations rather than someone buying it as a vacation home or a rental property
Just like buying the neighbor’s home because you want privacy.
I dont like weighing in but the safest place for the kids is the UK. Im sorry id never in good conscience raise my kids in the US ever. Free healthcare, free education, schools are safe, like the UK isnt without its flaws, but it is sm better than the US
As an American, I agree 100%
Ditto. It is one of the reasons I don't want kids.
The curriculum isn’t always good but safety wise omfg YES
Sadly also an American and agree
@@Binstabih The UK learns about world history and that includes US history, and they can name capitols, countries, and continents. And agreed, they are less likely to get shot by a disgruntled student. If you break a limb or have to have an appendectomy, you don't have remortgage a house to do so.
I'm not really into Taylor Swift, but I definitely can tell she is a true friend. She seems like a woman who really empowers other women.
okay, taylor is actually the sweetest though. offering her place for sophie and her kids? that is such a sweet thing to do.
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I heard that on the doorbell cam, she was caught saying that the Jonas brothers actually was not that good and that Nick was the better Jonas brother of the group 😂
i saw so many people saying that this is proof of "gaylor" but like what a gross time to assume someones sexuality, i would do this for any friend if i had the means necessary. Its kinda scary that it implies yall dont care about helping your friends unless they are your partner
It’s precisely guys like him who complain the most about family court and then they try and pull underhanded shit like this that violates all prearranged, written agreements, in order to spitefully control their partners and children. The loudest “victims” in society. And then they peg the Mother as being the one doing it. Anything to get out of your responsibilities as easily as possible.
He has always tried to make himself look better with every woman he’s dated so this isn’t that surprising
what makes this so sad is how the kids are being pawns throughout this whole thing Sophie never wanted her kids out in the media and it takes one second for joe to show his kids it shows his attention to this whole lawsuit everything for a publicity stunt to make his argument sound better then Sophie
So tired of this little princess! And no, I’m not talking about Sophie. This MFer broke up with his wife and mother of his 2 children through social media and is desperate to look like the good parent? Gross! Despicable behavior!
That part about breaking up with his wife on social media is an obvious lie because they had a fight that triggered the divorce on his birthday few weeks before hand and she literally made an Instagram post on social media less than 24hrs to the divorce filing that she posted she mutually and amicably ended their marriage as a united decision. You don't post something like that if you didn't agree to the divorce. Plus based on the divorce documents it literally said it was mutual decision.
If she actually believe her husband wrongfully abducted her kids and wrongfully filed a divorce process she could literally filed the Hague lawsuit in UK forcing the kids and Joe to travel to the UK for the court hearing.
She only filed the Hague lawsuit after she was in NY talking with the lawyers and how the lawyer literally told them both there is a court order that prevent the kids from leaving the country while in the process of a divorce and the lawyer was holding the passports to prevent them from breaking the law.
If the divorce was filed in the UK the same thing would had happened. They would be charged with international kidnapping if they attempt to take the kids out of the country without settling their divorce and custody agreements.
Plus Joe made a statement agreeing to share custody and responsibilities and doesn't mind kids living in both UK and US.
Sophie hasn't agreed to shared custody and she also made statements about how Joe promised her the UK property and how he put down 10% down payment on her dream home and wrote a real estate love letter to make the purchase. The house is under contingency until December and if Joe backs down on paying for the house Sophie will be responsible for the property if she stills want it. And based on her networth she can't afford the €9 million UK home because her networth is only $12 million. She also signed a Prenup so she won't be able to get any money from Joe.
This whole case sounds like she want full custody so she could get Joe to pay for her living situation in the UK through child support. It's also really hard to enforce payment for alimony and child support through international divorces.
Get his ass Sophie
Joe wants to return to his playboy lifestyle since he’s on the road touring.
Yep that’s basically it. I mean he only became relevant again ever since he started dating Sophie.
@@michelletan03 Or he became relevant when the Jonas Brothers came back together?
My grown son said his first thought, when the news broke, is that Joe Jonas has another woman. That’s why he filed and that’s why he tried to smear her, so she’d look like the bad guy and not him.
Creepy Joe
@@crystalbluepersuasion1027 he has always been a playboy ever since he was a teenager so no wonder.
Joe still thinks he’s an A lister
Was he ever?
He never was😂
I only knew who Nick was Lmao I knew Sophie way before him
I’m not sure how I feel about this situation other than the kids should be kept private.
Seems on the surface that Joe calculated this move in a sneaky way and his team was very deceitful. They were obviously going to live and raise the children in England. That should be what happens. Not cool Joe 😒
I hope Sophie gets custody and the girls are raised in the UK as it will be much better for them. Sad Joe’s team chose to put this out in the public. Poor Sophie as she is usually not about the media being in her business. So sad.
when it comes to public figures and theyre kids and court cases. they really should be protected more if thats the wishes of the parents and yeah, I hope there is change for that
Joe needed the press.
Sounds like he would spy on her speaking to her friends on the Ring camera 😅 that’s invasion of privacy, and controlling if you ask me.
I really feel for their daughters (names should have stayed private they’re minors for fucks sake.) to watch their parents like this in the media, I hope they are able to hide some of this from them. It must be so hard on them 😢
Joe doesn't seem like a nice person. He's really smug in all of his photos.
Joe thinks he is so much hotter than he actually is. Sophie is so much better than Joe is.
@@ann5765 He's 5'7 and not that attractive very average
I really wish they could get some privacy, handling a divorce must be hard as is but imagine all this attention and backlash. I feel for their kids
He caused it so I’m up for it. I hope she goes for the jugular.
I don't think he ever planned this to be settled privately.
He wanted to blast her in the media. At least from my point of view.
What happened to a human decency...?!?🤦🏻♀️
@@crystalbluepersuasion1027👌what a comment! Short and precise af. 😏
Love Taylor she always does the most.
thank you SPILLYYYYYY
On a side note: is it normal to write a letter asking to buy a property? 😂 must be a rich person thing lol
It’s totally normal, sometimes suggested by realtors. People like to know their selling their home to a family rather than a corporation.
That's normal. We met the couple who preo-wned our house a few times. Even for dinner. Not that we liked them so much, we just did the best to get our dream house
Here you can get almost anything on a state case through the freedom of information act. Marriages and divorces are usually public record tho. In the UK the privacy laws are different
The British press are famously ruthless. So no, I don't think it would've been better if the kid's name would've been discovered over there.
Actually every press is in every country. But in Britain they do have some rules. But in a free country there is supposed to be freedom of press
@@ravenc4912rules they break. They literally illegally accessed a dead woman's phone and deleted messages to clear room so they could leak more.
There are strict child protection laws when it comes to court cases involving children in the UK that restrict media from publishing any identitify information about a child. so in the UK I'm quite sure it is illegal for any media outlet to publish a name of a child from a court case unless the court allows it. Media publishing a name with out consent from a court document would definitely be a scandal. (Its also important to note that countries in the UK all have their own legislative framework on childprotection and safeguarding but I think it's the same in England)
I think Sophie is keeping her issues with him close to the vest. To me it appears Joe does not look healthy. He looks gaunt and very thin to me. His skin looks a little sallow too. I would not be surprised to find out he is spiraling.
Ug, I just hope things work out the best possible way for their kids. It's not looking like it will right now :(
What a spiteful little man, he is. I feel bad for sophie and the kids
Hey did anyone else notice the super weird sign/poster hanging next to Joe Jones in the bathroom picture?
These celebrities definitely have higher security than just a silly ol ring camera
Child name wouldn’t come out in uk if someone leaked it from court they would be fired and be sued
Oh dear I am so sad to hear their kids got exposed. I am not sure if UK is like us where court documents are public, but I would hope with any trials whether celebrity or not kids names should not be public.
I am firmly on Sophie's side, he seems like such a scumbag
I am honestly now scared for priyanka aswell what if the other brother do the same it will be so tragic
Adorning I'm sorry but I cant let that go.
"One of her New York apartments" - how many apartments in one city does one person need?
She was in a hotel, now she is with Taylor. I don't think she owned multiple at once, they just sold and bought anew.
A lot of people invest in real estate.
Still shocked priyanka chopra done nothing. When all she does is lecture the world about feminism and woman supporting other woman
Very true observation. One could argue that she has no obligation to say anything because it's not her marriage. At the same time- she too used to cover up her baby's face on social media too, for privacy- as Sophie did, but Joe didn't respect the mother's decision on that, if it proved that he was a better parent.
This whole situation has icky, messy vibes, and despite liking and thinking the guy was nice and decent before...this makes me question that.
This whole divorce has nothing to do with feminism. It's just 2 rich adults can't agreeing with each other and they want what they want. Just shared custody already, she can live in UK with her kids half the time and He can have the kids live in the US half the time. Both of them literally made public statements on social media agreeing to the divorce as a mutually decision. Back tracking now and lying is just a contradiction.
Anyone getting involved in other people's petty disagreements are just fueling the drama for the public especially making it so high profile and obvious PR stunt.
Priyanka Chopra just isn't getting into other people's private affairs because it's not about her and she won't make it about her. Unlike someone else who literally make anything a high profile drama just being involved.
I mean it’s none of her business. I don’t involve myself in my sisters relationship details because it’s not my business. They’re adults. It’s also bold to assume that she hasn’t said anything behind doors, why would she announce that out loud when it’s something that shouldn’t even be public.
Not her marriage , not her kids.
Why should she do something? And why in public, so you can read about it? Are you so involved in the lifes of you family members?
He wants a divorce because she was talking shit? Omg I vent about my fiancé sometimes who cares? Nothing to divorce about.
My whole this is why can’t they be civil!? It’s CHILDREN INVOLVED. Somebody should be the bigger person for the sake of the kids. It’s annoying as hell.
TEAM SOPHIE ❤
Let it drop Joe!!
It's not really our business but I do find it odd that they would release the name of one child publicly but not the name of the other!
Literally just another reason for those who love Taylor to love her even more.
Joe is so nasty for this
It’s weird asf too expose their baby name the disrespect is real and the obsession over this divorce I couldn’t imagine going through this in the public eye
Stop reporting on these ppl and they’ll have their privacy. Plan and simple.
Can you make a video about lil tay? She spoke out a lot but I wanna know the full story
Sloan made a good video going over her whole live.
I personally just don’t think either are great. Those kids are gonna grow up resentful of the situation and how it affected them.
you should do a video on the lil tay insta live situation
Who cares anyway. But I made a video about a girl dylng and she was crying in pain(try not to Laugh video.))❤
@@ville__ that’s so messed up…
What happened?
@@morna224 Lil Tay went live to expose her abusive father and talked about what happened that made her disappear a few years ago.
@@KKlee773 thats crazy, thanks for replying
I’m not a celebrity, not a person with major wealth. But I have a child. I’m sorry both of them failing! Father on tour with his band, mother filming a movie or series. So what Nannie’s raising their kids come on. Even to say relatives raising them isn’t cool! Aside from the divorce I’m sorry for their kids
Spill sesh and theeeeeeen tea spill always
Who cares anyway. But I made a video about a girl dylng and she was crying in pain(try not to Laugh video..)))❤
Breaking News: Kit Harrington, Richard Madden, Emilia Clarke, Maisie Williams, and Gwendoline Christie spotted in full armored regalia outside Joe Jonas' home.
I know this is not something you normally cover but are you’re in the teen mom 2 Jenelle drama
I strongly feel like the kids should decide where they want to live the most.
As someone who also has a 1 and 3 year old right now myself (around the same ages as their kids), I can tell you they are too young to decide this right now 😂😅
They can’t they’re too young to go into court
Who cares anyway. But I made a video about a girl dylng and she was crying in pain(try not to Laugh video.)❤
Im super duper way better than Spill Sesh
As someone who is the child of a divorce they do ask the kids who they want to live with and take that into consideration. At least in my case.
Someone who uses the children as pawns should not have custody. Their best interest is not in his heart. He is using them to be in control and have the power over sophie.
This is gonna work like I don’t understand why Taylor Swift his ex girlfriend is giving her an apartment
Clearly, somethings going on, because why would she accept it if she is a successful actress ?
Taylor is letting Sophie and the girls stay in her extra apartment (which is an investment property for Taylor) because Sophie and her daughters were staying in a hotel for the time being, due to the fact that she had planned to take them back to the UK instead of staying in New York. Since the plans changed so abruptly with Joe filing for divorce behind Sophie’s back and Joe withholding the girls’ passports, Sophie needed temporary accommodations while this custody and living situation is figured out in the courts.
Just commenting for the algorithm ❤️🧡
Seems like TS is trying to clean up her image
I’ve never liked Joe.. something about him has always been off putting to me since his Disney days
especially what he did to taylor i’ve always know he’s a red flag
6:32 I appreciate that you didn’t say the name
Taylor is friend goals!
So we all don’t think the whole Sophia & Taylor KEKEing & becoming besties out of nowhere is kinda weird…. Just me
Omg I got divorce month on August I am so happy
The north remembers
People who hate on joe for the divorce. I doubt jf he had a reason hed file
it is now Jonas controlling mother!
Theres something so gross about seeing a house you like and thinking since you're famous you can buy a homee someone is living in.......
They’d be never had a home on the UK, so even if that was their dream, it’s not going to happen the way they dreamed and planned.
Taylor is a real one
Never liked him.
Sure, he's talented, but I've always felt a dark energy from him.
I don't want to be mean but this Jonas guy reminds me of a little boy trying to act like an adult.
Sophie is way out of his league.
I don’t get how you think it’s weird that people are fascinated by celebrity baby names? Your entire career revolves around reporting useless celebrity news
Joe jonas is best
meh
We dont believe you, Joe!
Just came here to say joe looks really hot in the cover pic lol 😳😮💨
His eyebrows are too much
Man who cares, he doesn’t want his kid living that far from him and we all know how u.k court works, look at amber heard. At the end of the day they’re rich and they’ll keep living and they have support from their rich friends.
What
Is this psycho really breaking up his family because a woman was venting about her husband to her friend in her house!?
I keep expecting Joe to be gay
I can understand how joes opinion changed on living in england. I wouldn’t want to move to my exs native land when my support system in in the United States. I would only want to live in the uk if I was with my partner. I don’t think the note should hold weight to be honest. But I also think one should live in ny and one in uk and just travel
That's stupid
She should’ve married little finger he’d be better than Joe 😒😒
i’m not in favor of joe at all but with that being said, i’m not a fan of sophie thinking the kids should STILL alive out their lives in the uk after they separated. that might have been the plan when they were together, things changed and it’s not fair to joe nor those kids to have them live full time in the uk.
But don't they already live mostly in the UK?
@@caketropolis that doesn’t really matter tbh and from what I’ve seen/heard, they haven’t been in the uk for awhile, they’ve been in the us while their mom was working in the uk. I’m not saying they shouldn’t ever go back, but the custody should be equal. They’re both financially stable and present in their children’s lives, one parent shouldn’t limit the other parent in this situation. As a child of divorce, it’s only going to mess with them
For everyone sad about their “poor children” … they will be fine. Everyone experiences trauma and strife to some degree. The difference is their children will still have money to bail them out.