FANTASY POWER RANKING! (EP. 1)
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Vin vs. Geralt would give a whole new meaning to "toss a coin to your witcher"
Omg this is a good one!
Toss a coin through your witcher...
Well done, that's the funniest comment I've seen in ages :)
Dude :D
Where the coin becomes a rail gun!
Daniel: "I think this character takes it"
Also Daniel: "BUT HE'S GOT A GUN!"
You have to finish Dresden. Your view of him is old.
Speaking of guns... WHERE’S TANIEL
What I got from this is that you average soldier isote powerful than most mc
yeah, where's Wax? He would be overpowered literally because of Guns and battle knowledge
If Dresden gets to have a gun, do the channelers get a terangreal?
Geralt can load an earlier save though, that's god level.
Gandalf is a god level. That’s to say if he was allowed to let go. Gandalf isn’t allowed to just fix everything for everyone. If he could, he’d absolutely blast everyone for fun.
I'd have loved to see tolkien write like a bonus chapter where gandalf just absolutely destroys everything
When Gimli says he thought Treebeard was dangerous, Gandalf answers: “‘Dangerous! cried Gandslf. ‘And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord.”
I agree tht he’s god level.
@@christophvonpezold4699 that's called the Silmarillian
@@Pauline-lc3mu isn't He wrong, because Legolas and Gimli went on to see the Valar?
@@serp0unce No idea 🤷♀️ 😊, didn’t know they met the Valar. But Gandalf, even if he’s very powerful, isn’t all knowing, and can therefore be wrong.
Hagrid isn't just magical. He's magic resistant for being half giant. The only thing stopping him is his personality.
Very good point, so i say he would defeat witcher.
or a gun
The real question is how his opponents are going to deal with their new pig's tails.
@@alidv6697 Doesn't a witcher have some magic resistance as well though?
@@rolandbuysse9374 Yeah, but it's more in the sense of mind control or the like just doesn't work very well on them(it does work, it just wears off a lot faster then normal). Spells don't literally just bounce off them the way they can Hagrid.
Geralt's signs just aren't going to do much of anything to Hagrid. Hell, Hagrid is rather physically tanky even *without* factoring in the magic resistance. He is also 11 1/2 feet tall in the books, and strong enough to bend a rifle into a pretzel with his bare hands.
"Yeah Kaladin can heal a bit, but a bullet to the head is a bullet to the head."
Shalan, who has the same healing factor as Kaladin, walked off a crossbow bolt to the head. Also, Syl can block bullets by turning into a shield.
NFSfan38 yeah, and just wait til he gets his plate. A lot of these end-of-series characters have a temporary edge, but at the same point Kal will leave them in the dust.
Bullets are many times more destructive and powerful than crossbow bolts
This was my only problem with his ranking. Kal could definitely take a shot to the head. Being a highly trained soldier as well makes me think he could probably take Vin out too.
@@HanZsl It depends on how long Kaladin can hold onto his stormlight. Vin's metals don't leak when she isn't using them.
Jackson Gould Actually, in this case, bullets would be even less effective, as they are smaller and would tend to fly completely through his head and out again. Stormlight would heal that in seconds. The crossbow bolt actually incapacitated Shallan somewhat until they pulled it out.
These other characters: Have powerful magic
Geralt: Wins by using Yrden
Don't forget dimeritium bombs!
The Gaming Samurai oh yeah
You’re talking about books level of power, not a game level.
@@ivobednar5608 so he has even more signs at his disposal
Dimeritium isn't guaranteed to work on creatures from other settings.
Not that he needs it, but Rand kind of can pull the respawn card too. Just would take him a couple hundred/thousand years and have almost no memory of prior events.
If you recall one of Rand's discussions with a certain Aes Sedai, he asks her, "If I wanted, don't you think you might just ... die? Like, 'coincidentally'?" That's a tough power to get around...
@@hoi-polloi1863 He admits to himself though that that was just him bullshitting. Ta'veren powers aren't controllable and don't care about what you want.
@@alvedonaren yeah but at the end of memory of light he literally is able to weave the pattern of existence. At that point he probably could just will people dead lol
I'm actually interested in another episode dedicated to Fantasy Villains. Wanna see who stacks up.
Morgoth OP
Voice Nerd I was just thinking the same when I got to your comment!
Yes plus i think there would be more god tier villains. By nature the protagonist usually has a weakness to overcome and ultimately win due to love or something thats total luck.
I think Odium would be OP
Yeees
"Protagonist power list... ok now Hagrid"
Me: "wot?"
Did I miss the Hagrid spinoff book bc I would read the fuck outta that.
^^
Fr, we got Hagrid for some reason instead of Dumbledore.
Or possibly more interestingly, Snape, given than he might be more likely to use the unforgivable curses.
I really love the fact that Roland, just a man who has an enormous amount of willpower and is superhumanly good with a gun dominates the Powerful section.
As he should lol
@@filip7527 I'd honestly put Drizzt over Roland. Drizzt has magical Items that increase his speed and perception.
He's also got his Magical darkness spell and is totally silent when he moves. and then there's Guenhwyvar
@@rngmstrdan Haven't read those books but i guess you're right
@@filip7527 roland shouldnt be on this list. bullets at 50 yards r pretty much instant. vin and kaladin both would both die instantly to roland. i know vin can push metals but i dont think she would have the time to do it. and kaladin has no range, hes a sitting duck for roland edit: on book 2, WOA, no spoilers please
Harry Dresden and Geralt would team up and take out whomever stuck them in the arena!
true that
Well that would be Daniel
@@conormcgreevy1327 ^^
@@conormcgreevy1327 whould they still need to team up then?
that just makes sence, they seem have very similar vibe and attitude and would instantly click.
By the end of the stormlight archive series, kaladin will probably belong in the god tier.
You are under the impression he will get there? Cause I think he will die in book 5
I don't think so. The skill ceiling for a Radiant is probably the level of the Heralds, and I don't think they qualify for God level. Hell, I think late-HoA Vin would still be able to defeat a Herald. Pewter and atium are _really_ overpowered.
Unless you're suggesting that Kaladin would become a Vessel for a Shard, which is a completely different thing.
@@1Hexxer The fact that everyone assumes that is why I think he will survive at least book 5. A lot of people around him will die and his character development would be that he won't blame himself for that and finally learn to move on.
@@maleldil1 Heralds can move supernaturally fast as demonstrated by Taln at the end of WOR,probably have some more tricks up their sleeves and they literally have thousands of years of combat experience. Vin has no chance against the Heralds. The Knight Radiants(without shardplate) maybe, but Heralds, no way.
Honestly his already power level already godly by book two
Lock lamora could probably talk himself out of a fight. He would convince everibody that he is a ganitor or something
Haha this!!
That's what I was thinking. Locke would survive by just... not showing up. 🤣
Locke would just hold on until Jean gets there
Yeah that's why these are not about talent but about power.
@@justagamingbulldog9246 lol, my bad.
With Kaladin, the healing factor is insane and he has a soul killing blade. Remember, Shallan took a crossbow bolt into the head and only blacked out when they pulled the arrow out. Renarin was crushed by a Thunderclast and was fine. Kaladin used barely any stormlight in the arena and was only on Oath #2 and healed broken legs and dodged before a FULL Shardbearer could recover and attack him. The SylSpear and the healing factor will carry Kaladin far into a lot of these fights, and if the opponent doesn't understand his powers, his sword will kill in 1 hit. Kaladin can also have Syl form as a shield, so Vin's coins won't do anything. Even with Atium, Vin would need to fear Kaladin, because even stabbing him in the throat wouldn't stop him and the Sylweapon kills in a single hit.
I still think vin takes it at least until he gets his plate. She's incredibly fast and is able to use her naked reaction speed to predict and beat someone on atium. They can both basically fly, both have magically amped physical stats, kaladin has a notable advantage up close, but vin has range. I think it's probably possible for her to exhaust his storm light by making him heal and then kill him, but I could see it going the other way a lot.
If we give vin some more unorthodox things:
Atium? That fight is over quick as fuck.
duralumin pushed zinc or brass. That would probably also take him out. That boy gets depressed pretty easily.
Chromium and she could completely drain him of stormlight and maybe even stop him from summoning syl as a blade(The wiki indicates this maybe possible)
@@mycenaeangal9312 This is something that is very important to note. Kaladin has severe chronic depression. He was almost on the brink of killing himself from someone merely *talking* him into it. Duralumin pushed zinc enflaming his depression would basically one shot him.
However, Brandon has stated that in a Kelsier vs Kaladin 1v1 Kelsier would win, and Kelsier is self-admittedly a pretty bad user of zinc. Which would imply that Vin can beat Kaladin without using zinc at all, though it still probably be the easiest way for her to beat him.
@@tudornaconecinii3609 The only reason Vin would win at all is because Kaladin wouldn't want to kill her. If they are bloodlusted, Kaladin wins basically every time. If she stabs him in the throat it would just heal. A coin in the brain wouldn't kill him either. And if you've read Rhythm of War, post RoW Kaladin couldn't even be hurt by anything Vin could do outside of maybe a duralumin-pewter swing, and even then I'm not convinced. He has a Kaladin's durability and healing is crazy. Normal knives or coins wouldn't even effect him. He can kill in a single strike. I still say, even with Atium Vin is in a bad place.
@@MasterZealot09 I have read Rhythm of War but I'm intentionally ignoring its existence because this fantasy power ranking video was posted before we knew Kaladin will reach 4th ideal. In the interview question where Brandon said Kelsier would win a 1v1 versus Kaladin he was also talking pre 4th ideal.
Now ofc it's an entirely different game. Especially since living shardplate can completely cover the head which would probably counter zinc.
You should’ve definitely picked Dumbledore as a HP character. That would’ve been INTERESTING
OP or god level?
@@sergioaccioly5219 just higher up in the powerful tier I would say
@@sergioaccioly5219 He has an immense level of combat experience, he has shown great proficiency in both offense and defense specifically against magic, so I would definitely give him an edge vs all the other powerful characters whose feats mainly rely on their offensive capabilities alone. In such battles, whoever understands defense better, will likely have the edge both in initial survival, but also in being able to figure our their opponent quicker and find a way to effectively counter their strategy.
And from a pure magical point of view, Dumbledore has a huge arsenal of offensive tools that both attack physically, directly, indirectly, and mentally. And most of it is unblockable unless you know exactly what type of spells he is using. His proficiency in incantationless magic is also very high for the HP universe, which ensures he doesn't fall behind in pace either.
I would say OP, not outright godlike as he can still fall victim to certain spells and magic (like traps and such obstacles) so there are hard limits to what he can and can't overcome.
13:00 Saruman was forsaken by the Valar which was why a stab wound killed him. He was already basically a mortal by the he time Wormtongue attacked him. Gandalf fell to his death and got resurrected with a power up. It's unfair to compare Gandalf the White (or even Gandalf the Grey) to the fallen Saruman. He's literally a minor deity and is not a glass cannon.
Yes Daniel should take that into account. Theoretically speaking, Gandalf could just be sent back by Ilùvatar until his mission is complete, albeit with added regeneration. We also know that he is higher up than Saruman, seeing as a single command does you know what.
@@martinwoldstavrum653 exactly.
@@martinwoldstavrum653 Ilùvatar would amount to outside interference. Besides, the setup for the fights is an arena match. Even ignoring the fact that Gandalf did in fact "die" when that happened, I'd say being ejected from the world into the Void amounts to one hell of a ring out. lol
Yeah, Gandalf is a Maiar, a parallel to our world's arch-angels essentially (even though ME is technically set in our world), so even just based off of that he should be granted God-level tier.
@@3dreamsequence "arch-angel" is nothing but a title. A characters actual feats are what matters in these sort of things.
Gandalf is a literal demigod. Of course he belongs in God-tier.
If Nynaeve is merely over powered, then Gandalf should be to, as even a Maia would cease to exist when hit by balefire.
Merecir I have read all of the Tolkien saga, but that is the only fantasy I’ve ever read, so you’re probably right, but as a butt-hurt fan, I simply can’t accept that
Faethon Well if makes you feel better.
Some of the top tier gods in Tolkien Cosmology are really hard to kill for most matchups, it is just Balefire is stupid af.
Also, the Maia are weird but I am sure you can scale Gandalf to that dude that rose Numenor, since he was also a maia.
And that is definitely stronger then Mistborn and even Wheel of Time.
But again, Balefire.
Kills anyone. Probably could kill soul form Gandalf too if need be.
Agree, What about Tom Bombadil though? :)
Depends if he is following the restrictions to his powers that he has in the trilogy.
"...but a bullet to the head is a bullet to the head"
Shallan in Oathbringer: Gets shot through the head with a crossbow and heals it
Mason Chesser exactly
Thanks for the fking spoiler
Yeas, but how about TWO bullets?
First: If it was decent size caliber, Shallon be dead. The crossbow was specific, it went through and hit certain parts of the brain, leaving the brain intact, nor going with anywhere near bullet velocities to damage the brain more than that (hence the slurred speech, vision, etc, just the sections the bolt was in).
However, A good bullet, ie: Something not like .22, if it hits correctly, will be dragging brainmatter with it, either the whole brain, or most of it, if it is dead center. And ANY caliber hollow point will also shred the whole brain at once....
Oh, and a .50 cal will probably just take out the top of the skull, so... Not really needed there. That won't be 'Oh, my speech is slurred, there is an arrow going through my speech and eye vectors, yo my favorite crew, I cannot take this arrow out lest I faint, help me pull it out', with these bullets.
So given the description on how Shallon healed, and what happened with that, and how we know others can die with stormlight... Yeah, I am thinking a gunshot of a medium caliber or higher would probably killed Kal or Shallon without plate. Provided it is a brain shot ofc.
So in the end, I am going to say, most bullets, if accurate, would put Shallon down. At least until plate.
@@adrianbundy3249 actually, Radiants can even regenerate from having their heads destroyed, so long as they have Stormlight.
Your point about Roland reminds me of the meme: "Who needs magic when all of your problem can be solved... *with guns* "
"Who could survive a shot to the head?"
Miles hundredlives (with a shotgun in his mouth)- "what now?"
Miles is a completely broken character in my opinion. Compounding itself is completely broken.
Meanwhile, Era 2+ Kelsier :
You should totally do a tier list of character plot armour
Rand 'al Thor wins, of course.
Michael Klaczynski as weird as this sounds (since Rand is the stronger ta’veren), I actually think Mat’s plot armor is stronger. This relies on the idea of plot armor being something that protects you physically when the physical situation should kill you. Mat has this happen all the time with stuff like falling from 4 floors up and being fine, someone trying to fight him but tripping and snapping their spine, and a building falling on him but Mat happens to be missed by the rubble. Rand has things go his way, obviously, but they tend to be more political (people making decisions that are favorable for Rand) or destiny-style where Rand’s decisions and actions work out in the end.
Mat Cauthon wins. flawless victory. Wheel of time. the only series were plot armor doesnt feel like a wizard did it.
@@trevorvanderwoerd8915 as someone who hasnt read wheel of time (and idk who mat is either) i will not comment on those. H.Dresden has some serious plot armor in every single book that almost always just comes down to pure luck or i will always have just enough power to pull off the 1 thing i need to survive.
@@snowman9631 as someone who has read both wheel of time and Dresden files, let me explain: Mat has no magic. But if Dresden tries to fight mat cauthon, he will end up either as mat's new best friend or dead in the most unlikely fashion. Mat has so much plot armor that if he needs a pot of water in a desert he will find it in the most random way possible. An assassin once tried to kill mat and ended up fatally stabbing himself.
Ultimate fight: Rand vs Vin with a gun
Rand could just incinerate her easily. Love Vin, but Channeling is insanely strong out of context.
Tim T but can he do it faster than vin can put a coin through his head. In a senario where vin doesn’t know her opponent, her first move would probably shoot herself into a pewter powered side step to throw off any potential ranged attack, then put a coin in her enemy’s skull to test for allomancy
@@ronanwalker6807 Rand would probably just add her to his Harem tbh
The Mighty Dab I mean, if she was anyone else? Yes, but I think not even rands overpowering ta’vearen ness could beat vin’s hostility towards everything and everyone
@@ronanwalker6807 Rand could literally balefire the whole arena in less than a heartbeat. or, as darth rand, simply will her heart to stop/her to freeze etc. reality altering abilities are pretty much unbeatable
Its weirdly one of my favorite things about Locke that every single time he gets in a fight he gets his ass beat. I don't know why but it tickles me
Definitely want to see some Waxillium Ladrian up in here
A character with a gun whose powers are also basically a gun? Yes please
Miles Hundredlives would be funny
Gun man who can stop guns
Raphael Schmidpeter gunman whose power is being a gunman who can FLY. Oh ho ho
Wax is clearly god level, just because is fucking Wax.
I mean... Gandalf fought a Balrog... 😂
Rebecca Inman Balrog would get absolutely destroyed by anyone in the over powered, even some of the powerful as well. So Gandalf should be in powerful, somewhere behind Yen.
That was also before he was Gandalf the white where he became more powerful
@@jusatin Agreed! The wizards of Tolkien's world have their powers diminished so they don't seek domination of middle earth. They're meant to be guardians and guides but not overpowered.
@@jusatin I just wana remind u that in the books that fight with the balrog took 10 days of no sleeping. 8 of those days were spent in battle while falling down a so thought endless pit. The last 2 were spent in battle on a mountain top where Gandalf unleashed lighting and the balrog flame.. seems pretty op to me
There is also the scene where he comes back to life and is attacked by our heros and disarms gimli, set aragons sword on fire and disintegrates one of legolas arrows mid flight all instantly. And also he can never die because hes an immoral. Even if his physical body dies he can always come back. So I think he deserves a spot on the overpowered.
If Dresden knows he is going into a fight he pretty much always has his gun. And usually a sword cane.
Rank all the dragons. It would be fun to compare Smuage with Drogon!
The Dragon Reborn takes them all, *all* I say!
Try Anacalagon
How about instead of making an entirely new video all the new characters just compete with the already ranked ones so at EP. 10 we get this 5 hour long video? ... no? Ok...
Could just keep the top character from each section to see if a new #1 is crowned in new rankings
@@SolidBlade75 unless Daniel Green includes something like Warhammer40K I doubt there's many that can knock Rand off, MoL Rand is just insanely powerful.
Greg Steele I mean, the only fantasy series that comes close that is popular is maaaaybe Keys to the Kingdom and Magic the Gathering,
I think. Rand is just really, really hard to kill in MoL and ticks all the boxes in a match that matters when it comes to survivability
Then again, Planeswalkers pre mending could do the same things Rand did so there is that.
@@gregtompson3432 I know I am late but there are Malazan characters which can give him a tough time.
@@rahulmore7681 Quick Ben seems like he could be a literal bottomless pit of power.
Like, I know he does have a limit, and there are many entities in Malazan that could wipe him out of existence, but he would easily make God tier in my opinion.
Which just makes characters like Rake or Hood absolutely insane.
Now that I'm talking about it, I think Malazan is one of those rare few fantasy worlds that reach Warhammer's apocalyptic power levels.
harry dresden could argueably do something vs the gunslinger's bullet. He does have a shield in his mind in the ready, and he only has to think to activate it.
that's what I kept thinking, in the books dresden used his shield bracelet (which he almost always has) to block a quick draw from a supernaturally fast vampire.
@@charlesdunlap4193 SPOILER
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He doesn't even exactly need his bracelet. It makes it easier but he can always use it and gets better at not using focuses in the later books
It's constantly stated in dresden files that no amount of super natural speed is going to beat the speed of thought required for him to shield a bullet. Long story short, nobody on this list is landing a shot unless they have a special bullet or he's too tired to shield.
@@Gileril I agree. I haven't read dark tower but Harry has blocked bullets from many faster than human beings wielding various firearms. He does so by having his shield prepared, which if he was about to do battle in an arena he would. The shield moves just as much at the speed of thought as deciding to pull up a gun and pull the trigger, let alone actually doing it. Now if the Gunslinger has a special power that moves faster than red or white court vampires with guns then maybe, but I dont think that is definite.
@@davidpeacock8276 It´s not about the speed of the bullet , but rather about the fact that Roland doesn´t just have "a gun" , he has a (basically) magical gun forged from Excalibur , which has special abilities and in the Dark Tower series , he shoots a wizard who is protected from regular guns just fine.
I think Harry Dresden depends a lot on what version of him you pick. His power level grows pretty considerably throughout the series.
14:52 I could not help but laugh at this. Who would've thought we'd get to a point where we're waging a fight between hairy potter and logan nine fingers? That is indeed weird.
I kind of want another list with the same characters, but instead of basing it on how they'd fight each other, it's based on 'who would be better at secretly bringing two young children through enemy territory, travel time about two weeks'. Because there are some of these characters that I think would kind of fail at considering a child's need for food and/or how to deal with a hangry tantrum 😂 feel free to consider, if a character could magically make the kids fall asleep etc.
Rand wins that easily
@@joeshafer2123 Skar and Drehy are top-tier here
@@joeshafer2123 Talmanes wins - no dispute
From The Bloody-Nine to HAGRID. That made me laugh :D
Also Hagrid has his thick magic resistant giants skin, might give him an edge.
Are we talking Pre- Changes Dresden? Because everything from Changes on is a whole different Harry considering a certain mantle.
Even then, Roland would do what against a shield bracelet?
Yeah, obviously this dude has not read far into Dresden Files.
@Liambrownz i wouldn't say he's OP prior to changes. He's a brawler for sure, but by his own admission on a few occasions he's like top 30 on the White Council. And that any of the Senior Council, particularly McCoy and the Merlin, would gang his lunch money.
@Liambrownz love that analogy and thats quintessential Dresden right there.
Great Video Daniel! I had fun listening to you work out the way each battle would go down. Thanks for all that you do, keep up the great work!
Kaladin can draw projectiles to a target he designates(remember the bridge runs)
Sure, but he also has to be able to react to it. If he doesn't know what a gun is he won't know he needs to redirect the attack meaning this ability is only really useful if he survives the first bullet.
@@kylepask4989 Which he very easily can, cause stormlight healing is insane
Kyle Pask he redirected the arrows without knowing he could, so I don’t think that’s the case. It seemed more like a huge net that, once snagged, dragged arrows to the bridge
Good point, but how would that shard granted power react to an object being pushed by constant force by another shard granted power?
@@ronanwalker6807 We know that pushing on a metal doesn't invest it. We know this because iron mistings were able to drag objects thrown by Vin into their shields despite being significantly less Invested than Vin. So it is reasonable to assume that Kaladin's Reverse Lashing would completely counter Vin's Steelpushing. However Vin has other easy ways to win that 1v1.
Gandalf: Balrog can't pass him so he should at least be powerful. Getting an unsuspecting knife to the heart would kill even Rand? So Sarumans demise isn't that big of a deal. But jeah what does he really do besides shine brightly?
Is part of a race of angel like creatures that sang the world into existence. Also as Gandalf the Grey he battled against all of the Ringwraiths and WON. Also also he states that he is the most dangerous being currently in Middle Earth if you don't count Sauron.
Gandolf is God level. For one he is a demigod. Two he defeated the balrog in single combat. The balrog that destroyed an entire dwarven nation. Then he came back stronger.
Can’t Gandalf’s “race”, since he’s essentially an angel, never die? I thought when they were killed they were just reborn.
@@11DaltonB they go back to valanor. Sauron and saruman because they fell most likely just went to some form of prison in the Halls of mandos.
This gets complicated, because Gandalf wields a different type of power. We can call it Divine Authority.
Imagine there are two plains of combat in middle earth, a physical and a metaphysical. Most battles have elements of both. Gandalf, I would argue, is formidable on the physical plain, but most of his power is metaphysical. So;
Balrog, a primarily metaphysical being? Gandalf takes it.
Ringwraiths, who are almost entirely metaphysical? Gandalf takes it.
A dirty hobo shoving a sword through your chest? Well, that's where it gets weird.
This was so fun! I love how serious you took jt
I think you really have to account for intent and experience. In a situation such as Harry versus Geralt, Geralt has experience and isn't afraid of brutality. He fights with extensive experience and ruthlessly which I don't think Harry is mentally equipped to handle.
All imma say is that Harry become an auror after the series which is effectively magically law enforcement so I feel as though as an adult he would fair better. Also the forbidden curses exist. I can understand him not using them but like Harry Potter magic is pretty crazy
Knowing (I think) you haven't read all the Dresden books yet: ahhhh, I mean it's fine. Its fine. :') but this was so fun!! :D
As soon as he started talking about Dresden I was like "WRONG!" Hahahaha. But that's okay, he'll get to it eventually. ;)
Yea, bye bye geralt in that battle after cerain... things... happen
Yeah, obviously haven't read all of Dresden yet. I'd give him even odds against Vin personally.
@@ResandOuies I need to finish the Mistborn books. Loved the first book but floundered with the second and haven't been back to them.
One word. Outsiders.
Kaladin has regeneration. Even if Vin eviscerated him, as long as he has stormlight, he's practically immortal
Nah, if his head/brain is damaged severely, it's over. Plus if you incapacitate him once, you can just repeatedly injure him until he runs out of stormlight.
@@TheYoungOne96 Nah, not even then. Remember Shallan got shot in the *head* with a crossbow bolt!
@@TheYoungOne96 Shallan took a crossbow bolt to the noggin'... she pulled the bolt out, for crying out loud.
@@braxalus she did? I can't remember that. Where did it happen?
Regular radiants can heal from almost anything as long as they have stormlight. They've been shown to shrug of a crossbow bolt to the head or shardblade wounds. The edgedancers and truthwatchers have an even more extreme healing factor. Remember when Renarin got right back up after being crushed by a thunderclast?
I know this is late, but when Vin 1v16ned the INQUISITORS. LIKE WTF. That truly showed how powerful she was. I know that she was becoming Preservation, but that entire fight scene was the best part of the book for me. Absolutely insane.
Damn thanks for the spoilers bud
This is such a super fun video! Thank you! I probably would have put Gandalf in god-tier without even thinking about it. I think the hardest thing about this list is factoring in the character's personalities. I think a more vicious Harry Potter might be more powerful than you're giving him credit for - same for Hagrid (who is probably more a defensive fighter), so seeing where Voldemort would rank might be more interesting. Also I agree about Vin, she is strong and ruthless. Can't wait to see the villain version!
u should do villians power ranking that would be awesome
btw loved this vid and im happy u r 109k keep growing bro
I would have included Matt as well, he would be an interesting wildcard
chris pilkington he wouldn’t beat Drizzt
@@jusatin I wasn't saying he would or wouldn't just that as basically the ultimate wild card he would have been a good addition to the list
@@jusatin Not so sure about that. During said fight Matts luck will likely give it to him. Drizzt is not immune to getting dust in his eye or slipping on a wet rock. Matt however is _also_ fast as hell, has perfect martial form, and hundreds of years of experience....
*Spoilers* If Matt gets his medallion and it works against any magic system he would be a solid OP, maybe even low god tier depending on how strong you think his luck is.
@@kittycannoli7225 probably minimal effectiveness against Vin as thrown evades the effect
Me at the start of the video: You're good Daniel make sure choices.
Me 3 seconds in: STOP UNDERESTIMATING DRESDEN!!!! like did he know this fight was going to happen? then he is bringing his gun, and like 10 million other things and probably has like a million mythical creatures hiding in the stands.
If Harry knows this fight is happening he's probably already made like 3 alliances with the other characters, Gandalf is a personal hero for him so definitely gonna try to team up there.
Great video. Keep these rankings coming.
Hagrid is also almost immune to magic due to his giant heritage. During the last battle he was shrugging off spells left and right while taking out Death Eaters by swinging around a whole goddamn tree
Your point? He put Hagrid in powerful...
I wanna hear you discuss how Mat would compare to people who are far more powerful than him but with his unique abilities... I think it would be an incredibly fascinating topic. (Maybe not easily done without massive spoilers though)
This was so entertaining, although based on how you ranked Dresden, I can tell you haven't read all the published Dresden books yet. Won't say why, because, spoilers...but eager to see/hear your thoughts as you get further in that series.
Love these!!! Keep'em coming Daniel!
Magic powers: I sleep.
GUN: Real shit
Generally agree with most of what was said except for how much you overvalued Vin against both Kaladin and Nyneave, I think they both can beat her. Against Kaladin, Vin just doesn't have a way to kill him until his stormlight runs out as he's effectively immortal while holding it, his own flight is way more versatile than Vin's pseudo-flight giving him more mobility and all he needs is just one hit to kill her (she doesn't have feruchemicial powers and can't heal shardblade using Gold). Against Nyneave, she can just put up an air barrier around her and that basically blocks Vin's ranged attacks (I mean, if it can block lightning strikes, it can prob block Vin) while Nyneave will have her own that she can throw at Vin.from behind the air barrier.
Can Kaladin or Nyn destroy Planets? If not then they can’t touch Vin. Cause by the end Vin is a planet buster. (I’ll elaborate more if people want cause it’s a semi-wordy explanation)
@@nastybird3397 that is not the version of vin that Daniel uses in the video
@@nastybird3397 Yes, give Nynaeve the female Choedan Kal and she can bitchslap any shardholder.
Merecir Hey look, a correct comment.
I knew I could find one of my powerscaling kind here.
Yeah Vin was kind of wanked. Like, if you did elevate her with the Shard to Planet Level, Balefire still erases hard lol.
I dont see how we dont talk about the shard because Vin with just metals is maybe like Building Level at best.
Even Dresden has better feats in this state.
I am unsure if Kalladin can win since I havent read much Stormlight, but Egwene, Nynaeve and Rand could legit solo mooost of cosmere or all of it by themselves.
Fun video Daniel! Would be interesting to see where you would rank some Malazan characters. Like Rake, Quick Ben and Icarium
Really loved your video and hope you make more of them.
Suggestions: Skulduggery Pleasant , Belgarion of Riva, Daenarys, Eragon, Roran (Eragon), Torak (Wolfbrothers), Lyra (His Dark Materials), Frodo and many more.
Loved the tier list!
Had a quick thought on Vin: One of the limitations for Vin (and all other Allomancers) was that it was extremely dangerous for them to carry around metal items such as jewelry due to the danger of those items being used against them. I'm imagining Vin with a jar of buckyballs vs. literally anyone on this list. She could just throw them into the air, and then push and pull repetitively to shred everything around her. At fast enough speeds, I'm not sure even Zen Rand could survive. Granted, he'd certainly be able to kill Vin as well and is all around definitely more powerful.
It's interesting to consider how some of powers and abilities of these characters are limited/enhanced by the context of their stories. Given continued access to the various metals she needs, I think Vin would be much more dangerous in a non-Mistborn setting.
I'd like to see this match up when he finishes catching up to the current book in Dresden files
I love this! I really do and you should keep doing more. Even updated versions or what you think now. This concept is very good. Ps Gandalf is a god. I'm partial to him lol and Voldemort is also one of my favorites. Thank you for your channel I use it alot for recommendations
Hell yeah! Fantasy fight debates are one of my favorite things ever, so great video. My two cents on some characters/matchups:
I thought Aragorn's bloodline would be a bigger advantage. With the descriptions about him taking out hords of Orcs on his own, I had always envisioned his pure speed and strength to be around Geralt's level. He might still lose to Logen regardless, but I'd have placed him with these fighters rather than in normal.
For Harry vs Geralt, I think you're underestimating nonverbal spells. These only become a bigger thing later on in the series, but more or less equalize the speed advantage Geralt has. A nonverbal expelliarmus could take the Sword out 5 seconds in, and then Harry takes it imo. It's hard to judge how well their protection mechanisms work against different magic systems. Does Geralts medallion warn him against such a spell? Does Protego block a witcher sign? Lots of open questions, but I think Harry might do better than we give him credit.
Staying with Geralt, I think Yennefer takes him out no questions asked. His advantage against superior magic users is that they don't know what he can do. Yennefer knows what to prepare for, and then she overpowers him. Without going into spoilers, there's examples of him being powerless against more powerful magicians.
Kaladin vs Kip is a great one. I tend to agree on giving it to Kaladin, but it's close. Kaladin's healing factor is better than Kips endurance, but Kip's power output is greater. One thing to consider is how much Stormlight Kaladin has. It might run out, Kip is fine as long as there's light. I wouldn't factor guns too highly here. They can be a big factor, but Kip is not a proficient shooter. He relies on his magic mostly and barely touches a gun. With the guns available in lightbringer, Kip would not manage more than one shot, and that would not be enough to incapacitate Kaladin.
While Kaladin takes it over Kip, Gavin would clearly take him out imo. He would be a good addition for the next vid :)
Aragorn and Geralt do seem to have about the same skills in straight up sword fighting but Geralt can also cast nasty spells and has no qualms against using some hard core pharmaceuticals to increase his skills.
Geralt vs. Yennefer ends with both of them killing whomever tried to force them to fight each other. ;)
Kalladin have deadpool levels of self-healing and he flies. And he has a shapeshiffiting weapon that cuts anything. Radiants are to overpower in a fight in comparison to the other cosmere investiture users.
A twinborn mistborn like the Lord Ruler is actually more powerful than any Radiant. Remember, he can regenerate from being a skeleton.
@@geosustento8894 Yeah, that's true
The lord ruler was one of his kind. Maybe marsh and kelsier are at his level right now but we dont know that. He's the only one with the 16 powers of both magics. But ANY radiant have super healing facctor. Shallan take a arrow in the head and the only effect is she speaking funny. Shallan isnt even one of the combat characters
@@joaofarias9986 we don't have any twinborn mistborn right now only because of Harmony. But anyone who has the Bands of Mourning can become just as powerful as the Lord Ruler, at least until the Bands are drained of their investiture.
Shardblades have difficulty cutting invested things so it cant cut through everything, like magical armor/weapons
Harry does have that shield bracelet to take care of a lot of pesky ranged weapons. And the kinetic force rings. He's got a ton of "James Bond" wizard toys! Also I would like to see where Pug / Milamber and Thomas Ashen Shugar from Magician would rank.
Awesome video! Regarding Harry Dresden, you also have to take into consideration which book you are using as a template. By the end of the series when he was working with the elves and literal Archangels, Harry's power level was absurd. What he did with winter's mantle, the island, having Lash in his head, plus all his wizard stuff? I think OP at least, God-tier at times is a valid argument.
There is a series call The Rulelords by David Farland - It's magic system is based off rune twinning between a donator and a recipient where the donator looses a certain attribute and the recipient gains that attribute. For example if they twin a sight rune the Rune lord can now see twice as well and the donator is now blind. Runes can be twinned in all kinds of different ways, like speed, strength, charisma, hearing, all kinds of things. the more Runes a Runelord has, the more powerful he is. needless to say a couple characters in this series become extremely powerful.
Vilgefortz would be between Powerful and Over Powered. He is a true Witcher battlemage.
Agreed.
He frincking Liquified an Immortal Higher Vampire, he sure deserves OP
he also fked both geralt and yen with the eye flaw (Though yen would be really weak after all that she had been through) , only reason he died is because he was cocky and wanted to kill Geralt in a more humilliating way than just blazing him, if he had gotten ciri's power, with his own power and inteligence, he would be a literal god of worlds
Dude, I don't think people understand how powerful higher vampires are in the witcher series... he liquified Regis... that's overpowered
Vilgefortz is a beast. OP for sure
Hagrid just throws a selection magical creatures from his back pocket or calls on a swarm of hippogriffs carrying Mandrake roots...
I would have loved to see some Malazan or Powder Mage characters in here, but I think you did a pretty good job.
Finnaly a power ranking that doesn't end with a standard space marine rolfstomping everyone. Nice list.
Great video Daniel! But I must ask:
WHERE IS THE BLACKTHORN?
Which book is blackthorn from?
@@utkarshgupta8991 Hi, he's from the stormlight archive (actually is the nickname of Dalinar Kholin)
@@gastarojo Thanks! I can't believe I forgot that. I guess it's time for a reread.
He would just try to Unite Them all
The real question is does Vin have Atium!?
I didn't know I needed to see The Bloody 9 vs. The White Wolf until just now. I need that craziness in my life
It’d be cool if you did this with some more characters, or like centered around which popular characters any given member of the fellowship could defeat and who they couldn’t
"Harry won't know how to stop it,"
Have you read the half blood prince, they say in the books that he has one of the most powerful protego spells in the whole series, and with how fast he can deploy it, (reference, in the first dada classes with Snape, Snape attacked harry and he responded with an overpowered protego) he won't even have to deploy his plot broken expelruimamus
Exactly. I was thinking of protego too. He stopped Voldemort's killing curse to Molly Weasley with protego. I think he can stop whatever Geralt throws at him too.
@@unprofessionalcritic3107 Unless it's a sword to the face. Fastest in Potter's universe is still very slow compared to Geralt.
@@Kobi_89 If Geralt could deflect spells with Aard, Harry is screwed. If he can't, I think Geralt looses. There are spells like Petrificus totalus or Levicorpus/Sectumsempra you can't really dodge. I don't know the reach of Axii but I think Geralt's spells are more close range spells.
@@Sandkasten36 There's also Quen. I may be biased, though, because I don't like Harry.
@@unprofessionalcritic3107 That was a special circumstance. If it had been anyone but Voldemort using Harry's Elder Wand there it wouldn't have worked.
Kaladin can beat Vin even now because he can fly, has a 12 foot spear, can heal almost immediately as opposed to Vin will nead time to heal with pewter, like days to heal. Even if Vin injures Kaladin, Kaladin can just fly upwards, heal and come back. If Kaladin gets even one hit, Vin would be incapacitated.
We're talking her height of powers so she could use that all-at-once metal (forgot the name) to blast one big hunk of metal at him. That would be like getting shot by a battleship. She might even rip the blood out of his body a la Magneto. Or she could skip the physical and blast him with a soothing that would leave him (and his little fairy) mindless.
Oh, and that spear? With the nice, metal tip? Yeah, I think he better leave that at home.
@@ZlothZloth She won't be able to affect the shard spear, with the level of investiture that it has.
@@ZlothZloth Vin can't affect a shardblade, as we have seen that shardplates don't allow any investiture to affect it, so I am guessing that shardblades won't either.
Well, yes Vin could use that all-at-once metal(duralumin) to throw sometging at Kaladin which he could ,at least, deflect using a full lashing. As for ripping his blood out, I guess that could kill him but that would depend upon how much he can heal. I mean, Jasnah said that they can die only if their head is crushed( maybe also if they are beheaded). After using duralumin, all her iron would be gone, so she gets one shot at this.
Also, I know this isn't relevant, but once Kaladin gets his shardplate, Vin wouldn't be able to affect him directly.
Also, SYL IS NOT A FAIRY.
@@jwinget1999 Suuure she isn't. Not at all! What do you bet that I can bring her back to life by getting a bunch of kids to clap? ;)
They've been resisting powers in their corner of the Cosmere. Will that work against Vin's powers, though? They come from a different shard.
There's a lot of questions up in the air about how the Cosmere works. We'll have to wait for Sanderson to do some crossover stories to really get a feel for it.
@@ZlothZloth Invested objects are shown to be difficult to be affected by allomancy and shardblades and plates are pieces of a shard. They have a lot of innate investiture. Vin won't be able to affect it.... not pre-preservation at least. And that is the level we are talking about.
Hey Daniel, Just a reminder, in the Nona vs Harry matchup, the gun would also be somewhat counted by Nona's black skin armour that red sisters have.
A thought that I had when Daniel started talking about Dresden having a gun:
_Do the combatants _*_know_*_ they are going into the battle arena?_
Because when Dresden knows he's going into a fight, he prepares. He not only has his gun, but he has methods of determining his opponents weaknesses through summoning demons, research, or simply asking Bob.
I don't know all the characters being stacked against Dresden here, but it's entirely possible that you're selling him short.
Jeez, we deserve a simulation PROGRAM for fantasy heroes fighting S O M U C H
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or fanfics
Dresden always says the power of a wizard is being prepared. A prepared wizard can defeat nearly anyone. Take his shield bracelet, it stops bullets.
Are Wizards are secretly Boy Scouts? Be prepared, wizards & scouts
@@Zac_Craig-Claveau if you play dnd and the wizard picks the wrong spells for the day, you'll never hear the end of it. No one is quicker to call it a day, than a wizard who's got the wrong tools.
On my man Geralt's defense: he could stop bullets with his Quen sign, and could also be fast enough to dodge them (or arrows/spells) with prior potions that enhance his reflexes. (Battle prep is a big part of his strategy, adapting to his opponents). He can also cancel any mage's magic out with dimeritrium bombs, or the use of Yrden. He'd just have to be fast enough to use them, lol. And he can instantly stupefy and/or confuse opponents with Axii, giving him time to close distances. Even if that doesn't change anything in the tier, I think these things needed to be pointed out. He's the Butcher of Blaviken and The White Wolf, for Melitele's sake. 🐺⚔️
Recently found your channel and I really enjoy your content.
Ahhhhhhh I can’t wait for you to get caught up on The Dresden Files.
I'd say Geralt using his signs can actually prevent himself from being instantly out of most fights, and if this gives him the chance to close the distance he'd be a force to reckon.
This only holds true if he has some knowledge of what he's up against tough. I'd say he can defend himself from a gun, *if* he knows beforehand what he can expect from a gun.
Maybe include some LoTR elves, Eragon universe?, and some more niche characters. Villain list would be awesome!
Wow! This was great fun! I've only read fantasy for a short time. I know most of the characters you ranked, but not all of them. Next time, could you list (in your drop-down section) the character's name and the name of the series the character lives in, please. Thank you.
“But Harry has a gun!”😂
It's one of those things. Jackie Chan insists on making sure that, if his character is armed, he's shown on screen to lose the gun, because only an idiot with a gun would opt to use kung fu in a life-or-death situation.
I know you’re not the biggest Kingkiller fan, but I’d still love to see Kvothe represented for any potential part 2.
The problem is, the Chronicles are not finished, and from the first two parts we vaguely know he is capable of great (horrible) things, bu that's it. We don't know much more (beside some naming and sword training).
@@michagornicki7269 Sure, but Stormlight isn't finished either and we still got Kaladin. Just a question of current power level is fine, some ability over controlling the name of the wind but not mastery, expert control of sympathy, Adem in training.
This came up as recommended and i enjoyed it, recognise all the characters. If you had included feists world however (Tomas, Macros, Pug) - it would have broken your list :)
I like that you take environment into account
No Sparrowhawk/Ged? He’s the man though! 😰
Haha no, but that aside great list! 👍🏻
I didn't know that the wheel of time characters would get so powerful! I'm at book 3!
lol wait til books 4 and 5...then realize that you still aren't halfway thru lol. Thats where I am halfway thru book 5
oh my, you are in for quite the ride!
I would avoid ALL WoT chats until you are done. Spoilers suck
Remember what Rand did to the shadowspawn army at the end of the first book?
Extrapolate from there...
This was another great vid😁
Could you do a character examination on HOID!!🤔
That would be great 😃
Ooh also, how far do you think Kaladin's powers will go?
In the first book nine fingers controls some kind of fire spirit/elemental,he inhales it and then blows it in a guy's face later and sets him on fire. So he has some kind of magical abilities
With Nyneave being the strongest healer, I think she takes the win vs Vin. She has enough defensive weaves to keep her in the fight until Vin burns all of her metal. When that happens, it's game over. If Vin throws a bunch of metal at her, she can open a portal, let the metal enter the portal, open another portal behind Vin who is then hit by the metal.
If you ever get properly into berserk adding Guts, Femto and Zodd would be interesting
Daniel needs to get MUCH further into Berserk to be able to judge this, tbh. But yeah would be a super interesting addition! Too bad Daniel didn't seem inclined to continue reading Berserk. Don't have high hopes for him going far enough to judge this...
Great video.
About Gandalf, we do have some solid feats for him.
1. He fought and killed Durin's bane in single combat, the same Balrog that single handedly gave Moria a bad name.
2. In the Two Towers he had a telepathic duel with Sauron, and he won.
3. He is a Pyromancer of great skill capable of starting and manipulating fire in spectacular ways.
4. He has other general magical feats that are noteworthy, for instance in the Hobbit he makes use of blasting magic strong enough to kill several goblins at once.
And after he leveled up his ability to perceive distant things was increased.
5. He is a fair swordsman capable of keeping up with battle hardened soldiers.
There needed to be another category between Normal and powerful. But great video!
I dont really remember how he used it in the Witcher novels, but Geralt has a Shield sign, right? Quen? It can deflect a certain level of harm from him, including maybe bullets. He also has Igni and Aard for mid-range attacks, and Tiid to slow down enemies. Axii to weaken minds. (I might have gotten the names wrong). Did you factor those in? Coz if so, the others on the powerful tier must be damn good
Dresden gets more powerful
(Non spoiler)
Shield of force and enchanted duster to block bullets.
(Spoilers below)
He gets soul fire and the winter mantle.
-Soul Fire makes his magic real hard to counter and or stop as well making his spells more long lasting
-Winter Mantle makes him superhumanly strong as well makes him feel no pain or exhaustion and gives him some vicious ice magic
Standard battle to the death rules are that all character constraints that would normally prevent them from killing the other are ignored for the purpose of the hypothetical fight.
its always fun to hear your own name in fantasy books (and in this list) 8:29