Power of Story: The Art of Film with Christopher Nolan, Colin Trevorrow, and Rachel Morrison
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- čas přidán 27. 01. 2016
- Join Christopher Nolan, Colin Trevorrow, Rachel Morrison, and moderator Alex Ross Perry for a discussion on the aesthetics of film, its intrinsic qualities, and its appeal to filmmakers who have made the artistic choice to use film as a shooting format.
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when Christopher Nolan speaks, we listen .
...and i even turn my speakers waaay up ;)
God, shut up
Chris Nolan is getting increasingly outspoken as time goes on. Love it!!
13:35 - Christopher Nolan have just cursed... The paradigm of my life have changed.
Never have i heard 'oh shit' said so elegantly
Prepare yourself to hear his "fuck 'em."
I'm right next to the kid (Jamison), at 1:54:04 . I was extremely lucky to get in (as in, the last person able to get a ticket and get in lucky). Thank you to the Sundance staff for letting me and all those other waitlist people in, what an extremely insightful and interesting experience. This was my first time attending Sundance and I can't tell you how star struck I was seeing Nolan in the flesh! Wish I could've got the mic, but I'm happy for the kid regardless. They gave him the new Kodak Super 8 film camera at the end. Colin also continued to answer a few individual questions I believe at the end, but sadly Nolan left pretty quickly. An incredible experience either way.
That's awesome that Kodak did that! It sounds like an amazing experience!
Nolan is one classy dude.
Yeah he's very posh but in a good way, not a conceited way. He's very subdued, invested and attentive to what others are saying, this is why we've never heard anything but good things about him from people who've collaborated with him.
He’s posh and he’s English you can’t get more classy than that
One is not necessarily better than the other, there just needs to be the option for both, because both have their uses.
David Fincher has used digital cinematography to wonderful effect because it fits the tone of his films, which usually have a coldness to them that the digital look accommodate quite nicely. The icy, clinical feel of Gone Girl, or The Social Network, is captured perfectly by digital cinematography.
On the other hand, The Force Awakens benefits HUGELY from the gorgeous warmth of film, which totally fits the high-fantasy feel of that piece.
+Daniel King I agree with Social Network and Gone Girl... but I would have rather seen Dragon Tattoo shot like Se7en on film.
+Daniel King Totally agree. You can imagine scenarios where digital cinematography is more appropriate. For example, THE REVENANT and the way it was shot demanded digital cinematography.
Main thing with Fincher is he likes to do 100 takes for each scene, so digital makes it a heck of a lot easier to do the job for everyone involved.
Exactly. However, Nolan's point is that 1. Film still 'looks' better, something that maybe subjective but I agree with wholeheartedly, and 2. Film is a different medium to digital, with its own methodologies. A point that can be exaggerated but something I still find plausible.
Film needs to be preserved for ALL movie makers because it offers choice the the creatives.
@@usernameonutube That's a subjective opinion. Better than what?
Another panel for my Watch later for the next 6 months :)
Colin Trevorrow is so well spoken that i can't imagine he actually thought Jurassic World was good
+Pat Preto Blame the studios bro
@@usernameonutube racist?
I completely relate to the guy who asked about Nolan's writing process. You could tell he was thinking, "the title of the talk is story telling, so that's what I'm going to ask about." The talk title is misleading to many people who are interested in storytelling broadly, as Nolan & Trevorrow are discussing "film vs digital--a comparison of technical aspects" not storytelling or writing. They should have called the talk "why i prefer film to digital" to clarify that storytelling & writing process will not be discussed in the general sense.
The thing is after over an hour of discussion it should have been pretty clear to him what the topic of discussion was beyond the title of the talk. Assuming he was listening of course.
The robust fart sounds @ 57:18, @ 01:28:28 and rather more gently @ 01:30:52 are probably from Robert Redford sitting in the front row. I heard he's a demon for the Sundance canteen Chili Con Carne Special. :)
+Kevin Jon Davies He's still eating Chef's Salty Chocolate Balls which were bought out by Planet Hollywood.
01:00:25 - I think old Bobby is still dining-out on some out-of-date batch of *Newman's Own* he got when Paul was alive.
+Kevin Jon Davies Its not a fart. The moderator has a throaty "hmm, hmm" that distorts in the mike. If you listen back, every time you think he's farting, its coupled with the moderator saying "hmm, hmm".
M PG You killed it...
+creekandseminole Oops. Sorry.
Christopher Nolan is an amazing storyteller and speaker. It's also somewhat odd hearing him swear.
13:10 film equiquette
24:45 they dont COLOR?
25:30 studio pressures (steadicam > tracks, video > film)
+ 26:15 (upm, line producer)
27:55 grain stocks (film)
+ Nolan "im always looking for Naturalism."
31:25 education linked to film
36:25 Quentin had to work for his film shot (Hateful 8)
41:20 what Nolan shot at in recent years (everything .d)
43:20 "showmanship" (challenge re-dressed by Chris)
funny chris
- 46:36 "you gotta FUDGE the numbers a little bit"
- 46:50 "W/e it takes, man."
47:15 Line producer
Chris "Whole filmmaking is Intelligent compromise."
49:18
Chris "suspension of disbelief" (gotta see it For Yourself, tho.)
I always come back to this video for inspiration as I'm shooting my next feature on film. Everyone has such fantastic reasons for why they shoot on celluloid, specifically Christopher Nolan with his incredible eloquence. Thank you so much for posting this!
nolan is pretty witty.. best part is when he pokes fun at the mod for the 20year comment :D
+clrscr I don't get what he means with that. Is he being serious?
+Willem Sanders the mod was serious about what he said, but he phrased the question a bit awkward with setting a timelimit on nolan's career ^^
+clrscr wow lol. I think Nolan will keep making films until he dies. What do you think?
With Spielberg more than 20 years past your age, and Eastwood even 20 years older than he, that's quite some underestimating, Nolan!
+clrscr And he said it with a great deadpan, as well - which makes him surprisingly hilarious XD
29:51 Chris spoils some tea on his pants. Lol
I'm pretty sure the 'fart sounds' is just the moderator going "mhmm".
Man, in 2014 Colin Trevorrow got me hyped up when he announced he was shooting Jurassic World on 65mm.
Then in 2015 I watched Jurassic World. It was graded like a cartoon and didn't match the realism of the first movie.
Then I got sad. I'm never hyping myself up for anything you do, Mr. Trevorrow.
+EdNorty It's so true. When I saw the first real trailer for it I was so put-off by the Transformers teal/orange color grading. There's nothing about that look that says "Jurassic Park" to me, so if they were actually going for that original aesthetic, they failed miserably.
+EdNorty
I agree, but the problems with Jurassic World were deeper: tone, story, logic, and overall artistry. It was a lame movie experience.
Nineteen1900Hundred Well that goes without saying.
+EdNorty Their use of the 65mm was kinda wasted, they only used it on the super VFX heavy stuff and some landscapes, so most of the 65mm footage was processed to crap and had more digital effects than actual footage. Sad.
+EdNorty To be fair, that could have been the studios doing
I feel like what they were saying about accessibility is important. I also like how Nolan seems to have shifted to the believe that there needs to be a choice. It isn't about one dominating the other. People are going to have opinions but it's about what kind of film you want to make. Film for period pieces I don't feel is a true statement. If the director wants to then great. Interstellar and inception on film? Great. The arguments anti digital in this conversation rarely were true. Coffee on hard drive? How about the same on film? Just saying why can't we all just get along?
+ScottTalbot Totally agree.
Nolan has never said that digital must disappear. His worry has always been that the option to choose between film and digital is growing less and less possible.
Each filmmaker should be able to choose the tools (s)he feels are necessary and would benefit the film the most (digital/film/2D/3D etc).
+Andres Mikk Yeah I guess I just meant he used to be more aggressive. Maybe I'm confusing him with Wally Pfister who is definitely aggressive.
I just finished the video and I wish someone told that kid that it really doesn't matter. You aren't going to "make it" because you use one or the other. It's about story. They sort of said that because they didn't mention film in their answers but still. It would've been a funny conclusion to this panel.
+ScottTalbot I agree with you totally. Some of the anti-digital arguments, especially from the moderator, were specious. Its about preserving both media for all filmmakers, rather than "film is just better". It isn't always better. REVENANT could not have been made on film in the way that Inarritu did. Fact.
My opinion on Colin has changed somewhat. Jurassic World was very disappointing to me, and I feel like it being shown in film would not have saved that film from its horridness. But I find your independent work interesting, and I am undoubtedly looking forward to your Star Wars film.
Chris Nolan, thank you for the Dark Knight Trilogy. That's the reason why I want to make films. Your dedication to the medium is amazing. Please continue to make amazing films.
I find film to be beautiful, but I find it very difficult for young independent filmmakers to shoot on film. I'm not going to lie, most young people including myself are very uneducated on how to shoot on film. Digital is just easier to understand for my generation, but I will try to educate myself on film and hopefully I can see firsthand the beauty of actual filmmaking.
Lastly, it's important for new filmmakers to make what they want. Studios will continue to resist young directors from shooting on film because of its expense. If you can shoot on film, fight for it. I am working on my fight.
Thanks for reading, and lastly, Sundance, there's a humming sound throughout this video and the panelist is kinda awkward AF.
+Ben Parsons jurassic park was fine for what it was an attempt to reach speilbergian greatness which no one can not even speilberg i mean look at jurassic world sequels. the problem with that movie wasn't the director but the script and some cheesy moments
chris nolan did not go to film school? very hard to believe!
great conversation
+rebel code film school is not needed at all lmao..
+rebel code he does have a literature degree. film only helps to bring you around like minded people and give you more tools
+rebel code these days it seems like more and more successful filmmakers are self taught.
Nolan, Tarantino, PTA, etc most of the best Gen X directors are self taught
And Hans Zimmer never went to music school!
Someone else thought Nolan was a little bit dismissive when Rachel Morrison talked about the benefits of Kodak bringing back old stocks and reversal film?
Anyway, just a thought. The discussion was awesome and really admire Nolan and the way he's fighting for the format.
timestamp?
Lack of choice is a lack of innovation and ideas.
Nolan may not make every film appeal to all but what he brings to the film making table is so important to the history and future of film making.
The panel starts at 28:12
The issue with smaller films is that their presentation will most likely be through streaming, which in that case, if they want to save money, digital is the way to go. Film, for me, is easier to deal with. As a no-lo budget, shooting on film does put production value into the look of the project immediately. Most us small shows can't afford the Panavision scope lenses with Alexa 65.
+Statuskuo75 Also there is less fucking around with film as they point out. When the camera is rolling everybody is aware that you're burning money every minute. Makes total sense to me that a crew is more on their game then..
+clrscr So true!
Christopher Nolan FARTS at 26:19 and Colin Trevorrow smells and approves.
Oh Man Died laughing
Christopher Nolan - A List Director
Colin Trevorrow - D List Director
I love the irony in this video. Chris Nolan talking about people cherry picking issues with film for example about the audio being out of sync. As he speaks about it on the video, the audio is out of sync with the picture. That's all i have to say on that.
Keep filming your movies in imax, and we'll keep scanning them in 4k, 8k, and later 18k
A real shame we didn't get to see Trevorrow's Star Wars episode
28:12 GREAT START
Having captions would be so helpful
What great age we live in; where we get to hear the Greats talk about their craft, tools and techniques… This inspires me to get it work on my craft and get it out… I don’t need the ‘latest and greatest’. There is a working space for analog-ish tools, technologies and crafting ideas that you can never get in flat digital. #kelwinkwel
SUNDANCE: there is a glitch at the 33 minute mark.
Can you re-export and upload it again because that part of the conversation is very important in regards to getting one's first feature made in regards to medium chosen and budget available!
Fuck off bitch
I see Alex from RTP in the crowd!
+The Zedd Productions kind of
its weird to me that Colin Trevorrow said that he thinkst starwars movies shouldnt be shot digitally, because rogue one was shot digitally and i personally think that it looks as god as the original trilogy.
+Jack L That's just Colin being Colin. I'm genuinely afraid for Episode IX now.
Anuran Dev ill wait to see the trailer, but i kind of wish it was someone else directing
Jack L I wish Brad Bird was helming it. I wish... ;_;
Anuran Dev i wish jon favreau or Richard Linklater
A study in the art of synch, contributed by the Sundance Institute.
This moderator was right - he's a terrible moderator.
Colin Trevorrow seems very intelligent, a bit weird because Jurassic World wasn't that good. My guess is the studios had a very big influence on the film.
1:26:31
COLIN
What are those fart sounds?! LMAO 57:18 for example
Yeah lol 😂😂😂
The moderator seems to have a slightly childish attitude to this debate as opposed to Nolan and Trevorrow. Digital is a valid cinematic medium. Cinema is now a multi media platform. But it is VITAL that film remains a viable option for filmmakers. I've always loved film, the look and feel. It took me a long time to warm to the digital aesthetic. But I think filmmakers should have access and celebrate BOTH media. I myself will shoot my next short on 16mm. But I also want to shoot on the ALEXA 65, because I know its capable of beautiful cinematography of its own kind.
+M PG It's not surprising if you consider his films. His work pretentious and I'm sure he's "positive" he's right about film being better, even though that's not really the question we should be talking about.
Great stuff, but the video jumps around a bit during the film convo, around the one hour mark.
+Emmanuel Delpech It's obviously because this was shot digitally.. ;)
Ah ah ah, I like this comment ! ^^
47:56
1:01:00
FPS TALK
I wonder if this discussion was shot on film.
Ironic that Safety Not Guaranteed was shot in 1080p on the Sony PMW-F3
Kind of plays to Trevorrow's point that low budget productions (750k for Safety) simply don't have the ability to use film. Plus, he's used film on every feature project since.
29:15 im i watching the lighthouse ?
29:14
Guff
10:17
was that a Fart ? lol
The conversation is absolutely amazing
But i wanna know who is this men who is constantly fartinggggggg during shooting that panel hahahhahahahhahah😭😭😭😭
Look at that fuck face expression at 22:10 when Nolan says he started with super8 as a kid.
Forgive the crudeness, but does somebody fart at 01:28:28?
+NotPeterTravers Yes. lol
+NotPeterTravers I think all those sounds were kind of 'hmms', as in agreeing, from the moderator (Alex Perry). Also they trimmed the video, if not the discussion part. It was originally around 2hr.
+NotPeterTravers i counted more times than that lmao!
Yeah, I think I heard it happen three times.
+NotPeterTravers
I thought it too, but it's that guy going: "hmmm"
I went to a film school last year and they took away Film stock teaching the month before i started that class.. :/
+M Lundin what school was that?
sons of *****
Why the fuck director of Jurassic World is sitting with God Nolan
Colin Trevorrow is a discount David Fincher
The Dude lmao
Lol you're being wayyyy to generous
Very misleading title unfortunately, the panel discusses anything but storytelling.
52:00
I think digital is part of the reason that the Star Wars prequel trilogy lost some of its lustre. It lost a lot of its warmth when it went digital.
I love Nolan as a director and we need people like him if Film is going to survive in the long run.
Going digital didn’t effect the Prequels regarding warmth or luster. Episode I was shot on film and Episode II was the first one to be completely shot on digital. George Lucas had been trying to get digital filmmaking going for along time. Part of the reason is because he’s an editor in addition to being a director and editing film for him was a pain due to the scratches and tears that can occur when working with film. I remember he said that some friends of his were also annoyed a bit with film back in the 60s and 70s. Also, George Lucas was always a pioneer in filmmaking from sound to editing and digital is one of the things he was a pioneer in. Due to the way digital is these days, many up incoming filmmakers are able to use their phones to make their films, short length or feature length. Steven Soderbergh has just gone to using his phone to shoot his films from now on and won’t use any other cameras. All that said, film is great. It does look fantastic and digital isn’t to the point where it looks exactly like film quality, though it is getting closer. Thing is, I think digital and film can coexist. I don’t think Lucas intended for film to be eliminated or anything of the sort, but being an option for those who are frustrated when working with film potentially tearing, scratches, hairs and other things that can happen when using film as the medium to shoot on. Though, what often happens is once something begins to catch on, lot of people abandon the old and embrace the new to the point film has all but disappeared when it comes to movies.
And then we have Deakins who makes amazing stuff on digi alexa....
Who keeps blowing off !??
i'm envy for the Nolan bottle.
uhh.
when does he talk about batman?
+PeterZeeke why?
Werty Rome it was a joke, good talk
13:18
A talk about film format with 4 analogue advocates? Not really relevant. Where's the critic? where is the person that is pro digital? Would loved to have seen Steve Yedlin in this conversation.
+Gilles van Leeuwen or david fincher god i would love to see david finches rebuttal he's a better director than all of them
The pro-digital critic is the mainstream public. These filmmakers are a minority speaking about the importance of analog in the digital era. Not undermining digital but highlighting the importance of the choice of celluloid not only for big budget filmmakers, but indie filmmakers as well. Very relevant and inspiring!
Stokely!!!
The fart noises btw, are Alex Ross Perry saying "mmhmm" but he has such a nasal voice that it sounds totally like farting haha.
yeah exactly haha
Colin Trevorrow should never be in the same room as Nolan. Trevorrow is a mediocre filmmaker at best, did not like what he did with Jurassic World, felt very lazy.
+John Harrison Safety Not Guaranteed was a pretty solid film.
Not trying to hate or anything, but this moderator (Alex Ross Perry) is supposedly a director and he says that he doesn't understand how capturing images on film works? And he doesn't comprehend how piracy works? Weird choice for hosting the talent that was on this panel.
+Žiga P. Škraba It's not really about knowing how things work. It's about being able to tell a story that resonates with people. I've never seen any of his films, but I'm sure he's not just up there for decoration.
+Žiga P. Škraba except he's the most talented filmmaker of his generation and definitely the best director on stage
They got the money, so why not? Shoot man go for it! At least have fun while doing it spending that Disney money.
+creekandseminole Speaking of Disney i'm still waiting for some news for Alex Ross Perry who's writing the script for a Live Action Winnie the Pooh movie. I think it would be wonderful to see Alex make Pooh and his friends come to life.
Someone farted at 43:21
Power of story huh? Pity Nolan never told Snyder that when he fucked up Batman Vs Superman
See ultimate cut its awesome
Peter Rakoc No it's not
cinema started with film because that was the only technology available lol
Fart at 1:00:25 😂
Colin Trevorrow is set to direct Star Wars Ep9......ffs
this interview is full of fart sounds !!
lol who keeps fartin? Ex.: 29:14... It happens at least twice before that lol in under probably three minutes.
FART FART FART FART FART FART FART FART!!!
i have respect for a projectionist theresa spontaneity..........what why would you want something to go wrong this whole discussion is incoherent and full of personal anecdotes and 0 truths.
fart.
Going off topic... Why do film directors have such terrible taste in footwear?
+Stephen Sutton Park City, Utah, in the winter...
+Franklin González Look at all directors footwear, globally...
+Stephen Sutton I did. And I'm telling you that they all have ugly rugged boots because this took place in Park City, Utah, in the winter = LOTS of snow
+Stephen Sutton Spike Lee on the other hand...
garbage and gold
So much farts. Wow. A real fart-feast
They talk about how film is more real, tangible, believable and all that stuff. Then they condemn high frame rates. (Higher frame rate is CLOSER to realistic movement than 24 frames). So I don't think these people fully understand frame rate and are a little bit biased. And have 'nostalgia goggles'.
agreed. i think they are scared of progress, there is always something out there that surpasses what has come before it. i understand their passion for film, but the whole talk sounded very biased.
Nineteen1900Hundred I disagree
Instead of assuming they probably do not "fully" understand it and resorting to the "are a little bit bias" (sometimes we can accuse others of something while we might be doing the same thing) argument, you should meditate on whether your understanding of their discussion was mostly accurate or not. Remember, higher frame rates can provide a Hyper-Realistic visual presentation in contrast to the realistic naturalism perceived by the human eye, which seemed to be the intended focus of their conversation. In HFR details are amplified to varying degrees, even when whatever is on the scene is in motion, and the film or video may have a more fast-paced feeling that might not be quite so natural in terms of our perception of reality. In real life we can't see multiple heightened details to such a great extent (unless the person has something special in their eyes but of that I’m not sure), specially when rapid movements of various sorts are occurring. So, from my perspective, there appears to be a difference.
Who cares? Make better films. Just like audio. Tape or digital? Just make better music.
Fim for cinema use is dead. Why? Business and art rarely go along on this scale. Business is pushing digital projection in theaters, for them is pure profit. The price of celluloid medium is skyrocketed. Film will be used for artistic purposes only in future. In photography at the moment is the only artistic choice because of a printing process. But get real, people of the future will give anything for convenience even their freedom, they will watch netflix with personal AI assistance in their homes projected digitally on the wall.
Digital projection is more consistent than film projection and will continue to get better and better. But film is better for archival purposes. Digital is a mess in that regard. Doesn't hurt to have backups in both formats.
It sure does cost a fuckload of money for independents to output to DCP and 35mm. So for independents they will probably go digital as that's the more widely used format and its cheaper to distribute.
And film projection at its best, is still better than anything you will see digitally. I worked as a projectionist through university and I still find it a somewhat deflating experience walking into a digitally projected movie. Film is richer. The dynamic range is better. 35mm is genuinely sharper. This could change. Digital needs to standardise at 8K pretty damn quick if you ask me (2k projection???) But film still has the lead in real terms, at least to me.
blah blah blah
Thank you for your meaningful input on the discussion.
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