The guys on Lightning Rodder are very helpful! I have a 02 Harley Truck and i learned so much about my truck that i would of never known if it wasnt for them
AJ, the only Lightning specific items are the intake, intercooler, blower, heat exchanger and the other related parts to support the supercharger such as the airbox, I/c pump, alternator etc. I bought the shortblock from ford racing then found a set of 8 thread PI cylinder heads and had them ported. Cams are the comp blower cams.
The title had me thinking you had an actual Lightning and dropped the body and drive train onto a 4x4 reg cab, short bed frame. still a cool truck though.
Yes, still have it. Haven't had any mechanical issues but I don't beat on it much. I did upgrade the heat exchanger to the big LFP one, that dropped my intake air temps about 10 degrees so that was a good buy over the stock heat exchanger.
@@inverted311 Takes some getting used to, she will get away from you if you're not careful. 507HP & 635TQ is a handful in a vehicle that doesn't have traction control etc. My 2013 GT500 has all those nanny systems and is MUCH better designed for the power lol
@@thastinger345 That Mustang is a nice ride for sure. I sold Fords and Lincolns at a huge dealership for a few years starting when the 2015 models came out. Retired now “not by choice” due to some medical issues, but I was able to drive many badass Mustangs while I was there.
I'm super interested in your build. I have an 02 Lariat Supercrew FX4 and this seems like the best for an everyday driver. Nice numbers too. I like your attitude about it "NOT trying to race a 5700 pound truck but maybe good to get a ricer occasionally" lol My sentiments exactly at 41 yrs old. Not looking for tickets, just maybe a conversational piece or a head turner at a red light once in a while. Piss off the Silverado guys who chop off their mufflers. The guy with the channel AUTODETOUR has a great series about his Grandpa Truck build where he took basically the same truck and threw a single turbo on his. It's amazing the things held up BONE STOCK, 10lbs boost and over 500 horses. I'd personally rather go the route of the SC for towing my camper and the Texas heat where I live.
Dallas, you'll need a 5.4 NA computer (ECU). You can't run a V8 from your V6 ECU even with a custom tune. Will likely also need the 5.4 fan shroud and fan and maybe reloacate some sensors such as head temp and coolant sensors. Throttle and cruise control cables come to mind as well.
I have a 2003 similar to what's in this video, but with the 4r70w trans (4x4). I have complete lightning blower hardware for it, but was told by a tuner that I need to use the lightning ECU. Pls give me details re how to use the existing ECU to avoid needing a standalone trans controller or switching to a 4r100 trans (not easy, requires moving crossmember, new longer torsion bars, etc.).
@@mikeaimone2339 I'm using my stock ECU, my truck came with a 4R100 transmission though. You just need to find someone who is familiar with this swap. I.E. tuning NA 5.4 ECUs for Lighting top ends
Just came across a Supercharged HD F150, and planning on doing a swap into my 1999 F150 4.6 5 speed. Fortunately, I am able to get my hands on the entire truck. It's been wrecked, and my 4.6 is on it's last leg and has been parked until the heart transplant. Anyways, I have a few questions about your truck/build. Did you use the stock driveshaft with the truck or have a custom. I know you kept the stock trans and rear end, so I guess this doesn't apply to my situation. I will be swapping the Auto into my f150 from the HD, until I can get hands on a T56 and swap again later, but until then, enjoy an auto for a while.. lol Anyways, thanks in advance for any help..
I replied to you before but it isn't showing up for some reason. I retained both my stock driveshafts since I retained my original transmission and transfer case. My truck came with the 9.75 sterling rear end and the 8.8 front so they are pretty stout and haven't had any problems handling the new motor.
That is a GREAT truck Stinger! Thanks for sharing your truck, very inspirational! Really like how you have integrated the interior like the factory! How is your transfer case holding up and what dash pod did you use? I have a vampire for mine as well and would like to put the WB & J&S on the dash. I am going with a wide navi console and putting my other gauges where the rear AC controls went for the sunroof equipped trucks.
I have the BW 4406 T-case, it is original to the truck and I haven't hurt it yet, even with 4WD street launches. I got the gauge pod off Lightningrodder.com, there was a guy who was making them at the time. I'm sure someone on the lightning forums is still making gauge pods like that, there was also a 3 pod option that had 2 on the left and one on the right.
hey thastinger345 look into fixing that CEL. old farmers trick is to stack 2 spark plug anti fowlers and drill through them. works a treat for a cat delete
Not trying to sharpshoot, but in 1998 Ford didn't call the heavy duty F150 the 7700 yet, they didn't change the name until year 2000. In 1998 Ford called it the light duty F250. Also, I thought Ford didn't put the 4R100 in the LD F250s until 1999; and your hub caps appear to be for the standard 5 -lug axle, rather than the 7-lug for the LDF250, or F150 7700? I own a 2003 F150 7700, and am considering this modification. Please, did you acquire a donor Lightening vehicle for all the parts, or did you buy them aftermarket?
This truck has a 9&3/4" rear end, 8.8 front and a 4r100 transmission, it is has the 7700 max tow package. It is not a LD250 so it doesn't have 7 lug wheels, all else is the same package the 250s got. The only lighting specific components are the intake/midplate/intercooler/blower/pulley bridge/alternator/lower crank hub/throttle bracket...and I used a harley air box because I thought it looked more factory
Who ported the heads? And did you ever dyno it? The 5.4 in my 1997 Ford F150 XLT 4x4 went down and I am almost done with my build. You and I have almost the exact same setup and I was wondering what kind of power I can expect to make.
I just relocated my IAT wires to fit the manifold. The 99-00 IAT sensor is on the driver side while the later years is on the passenger side. I used Lightning throttle and cruise control cables but those aren't made anymore so you'll need a bracket to use your NA cables or you'll need to find used L cables.
Yes it is. I ran the little Eaton blower up until this past Winter when I put on a Whipple 2.9 blower. It is about at the limit of what can be done on 93 pump gas.
Do you know anything about swapping a 4.2l v6 for a 5.4l? I know they both use the same transmission and I'll have to get a new computer, I just want to know what else I'll be getting involve with. Thanks, Dallas
How much more is the MPG if any more..... I have 2001 F150 5.4 Lariat I like to add an supercharger as well ...where could I find all these parts I'm a mechanic I completely rebuilt my other 03 F150 4.2 V6 motor and suspention ....what about a Kenne Bell ?
I would recommend the forums dedicated to the Lightning platform for the parts, they will have a section dedicated to parts. I don't really track gas mileage much but I probably lost 1MPG if I stay out of boost. It takes power to turn the blower all the time. I could go with a larger whipple or KB but I use this as an actual truck and love the TQ the roots blower makes. This motor makes 650LbFt of TQ, that gets things moving.
I probably get 1MPG less than I did. Depends on how you drive it, if you're in boost all the time it is gonna suck, you have to burn more fuel to go with the additional air under boost conditions. If you are just normally driving you won't see over 5Lbs of boost and even that is only merging/passing etc. The 1MPG loss, in my case, is most likely the power needed to spin the blower, they can suck up 100HP to turn them.
do you still own this truck?...I have a 2001 crew lariet that cost 31,450 new...I will never sell it but pass it down because my local cemetery said it not the same thing as a state approved casket..lol.....you got a great truck there....cheaper to keeper....i got online the other day and duplicated my truck with the tow group....and picked the lariet package.....OMG....near 50.000....give or take.....no thanks....i love what I have......and I love the payment....zero.....lol.. post more vids please
Chris, I do still own it. I use it mostly as a truck...mulch, firewood, fertilizer hauling, pulling the boat/camper etc. The local dirt drag track has a "street class"...has to be registered, pass state inspection, DOT tires etc. I've been toying with the idea of running it in that class just for fun.
thastinger345 that would be fun...wish I had your 17 inch wheels...i do have factory 17 inch...but they are the lariet group 1. wheels....uses the same center as yours....but mine aren't the directional aluminum
OFD, when you refer to having a complete swap kit, please are you referring to all the components you salvaged from a donor Lightening truck? I understand you sold it, but if you acquire another complete system, (price dependent) I would be interested in the entire engine. I have a 2003, F150 7700 4x4, 4R100 trans, extra cab, and I would like to rebuild the engine, front/rear axles, and transmission.
@@UnderSprayedWhiteSkies yeah it was a complete swap, I bought all the parts needed for the swap, I was getting ready to install it on my 03 f150 but sadly my truck got totaled but sounds good man I’ll let you know if I ever get another full swap. I’m probably going to buy another 03 f150, really miss mine.
If you have a 2000 and up F150 you could probably do just the Lightning top end swap for around 3K. If you want to turn up the boost the you'll need a built bottom end with forged pistons.
Hey I’m looking to put a lightning motor into my 03 lariat but did not get pcm or computer for the lightning motor. Did you use your factory truck pcm an computer or what did you do to get it to run
I bought all those from Ford racing back when they were still making them. The Lightning cables are no longer made but there is a guy on lightningrodders.com that sells some custom made brackets that let you use your stock throttle and cruise control cables in the conversion. You can find the tanks on ebay usually.
Depends on how hard you drive it. If you're in boost all the time then of course it is going to burn more gas because you are making more power than the NA engine used to make. If you grandma it around, it gets 1MPG less than it did before.
@@thastinger345 gearing up for my 97 Lariat swap in May with a 02 lightning engine and t56. Like you Hope, I'm doing for towing..Hope it turns out as clean as yours. Have you driven it much?
@@19jody72 I still have her, could daily drive her if I wanted to...but she takes 93 octane only. Transmission is built now, triple disc torque converter, 300m input shaft, billet fwd drum, 6 pinion planets etc...I race her sometimes now...fwd drive shaft is my only worry now
Is it bad to ask how much something like this is to buy? I have a 2001 f150 xlt super crew with the 5.4 and I would love doing this but don't know enough about all of it yet.
Price really depends on how "bullet proof" you want the motor and what your power goals are. To swap on a Lightning intake system to your truck you're probably looking at 2-3K and it would get you probably 380HP and 450TQ...how long the bottom end would last would probably depend on how hard your were on it. A fully built short block like my truck has will cost you 4k right by itself but its good to 1000HP...which I'll never come close to.
You would need the 5.4 ECU, wiring harness and some of the sensors. I would recommend going over to lightningrodder.com or f150.com and post in the conversion sections, there are a lot of folks who have done the conversion you're wanting to do but I already had the 5.4 so I can't tell you exactly what you would need.
@@carpetcleaning3605 I would think. I've read several reasons trucks had that trans it's just rare to see. That and I guess maybe see if he made a typo
@@scottskinner577 Nah, not a typo. It is a unique thing but if you got the "max tow" package then you got the 4R100(it is not an E4OD) for at least the first part of the model year. It is hard to say exactly when the switch to the 4R100 happened. I know all 99s and up have the 4R70 and it seems some 98s have the 4R100 and some have the 4R70.
@@bebeslife4519 It has the 7700 "max tow" package, it isn't a LD250 but it has the same running gear the LD250s had minus the 7 lug wheels. I have the 9.75 read, 8.8 front and 4R100 tranny, BW4406 transfer case.
Just to tow our toy hauler a little better than my old 5.4 did. In all honesty I could have lived with the towing as it was but I had a mid-life crisis and this was cheaper than trading my ol lady in on a set of 20 year olds.
If you have a 99 and up F150 you could probably do just the Lightning top end swap for around 3K. If you want to turn up the boost the you'll need a built bottom end with forged pistons. Since my truck came with NPI cylinder heads, I had to switch to PI heads so considering that, I went ahead and built a brand new engine, including buying a new block, steel crank, forged rods/pistons and ARP 2000 hardware, so I spent a bit over 8K including exhaust and a tripple disc torque converter. My truck had the 4r100 transmission already (the weakest version but still stronger than a 70).
Its been a while ago, truck is still running great though. I probably spent 8K but I build a whole new motor with a new block, Manley internals and ARP studs everywhere. The little things add up, like the fuel pumps, hoses, fittings etc. You can spend 700 on the SCT handheld tuner and the tune to go with it.
No. My truck came with the 4r100. Although it is a 4r100...it is the most weak of the bunch. The strength of 4r100s went, 7.3PSD, V10 expedition, Lightning, then 7700 package F150. My tranny has 145K on it now and it seems just fine. I don't beat on the truck much and I have a triple disc, billet front, aftermarket converter. My understanding was that the converter was the weakest link in the original tranny design. I will eventually get the transmission built more robust.
5-6 psi on an otherwise stock motor is different than 5-6 psi on a motor with cams, ported heads, high flow exhaust, etc. I'm making 15.6 psi with ported heads, cams, built bottom end, long tube headers etc and my 4r100 has been fine for 10K+ miles.... but I don't beat on it. Mine put down 423HP and 525TQ on the dyno. A 4r70 should be able to handle 350 Tq. A 4r100 should handle 500 Tq, at the crank of the motor...that is the way ford assigned the numbers to them. I would get a converter regardless, you'll eventually need it anyway. Mine is a Circle D and I've been very pleased with it over the years. I think you should be ok but you always have to be prepared to "pay-to-play"
@@19jody72 My truck had the NA 5.4 in it already so I used my original harness and ECU. I didn't use the 4 sensors on the drivers side that the Lightning uses though (barometric pressure, EGR controller, air density). I only had to extend my IAT wire and my TPS wire.
3:24-3:40 lol nice this is why i love CZcams you find gold at times.
The guys on Lightning Rodder are very helpful! I have a 02 Harley Truck and i learned so much about my truck that i would of never known if it wasnt for them
AJ, the only Lightning specific items are the intake, intercooler, blower, heat exchanger and the other related parts to support the supercharger such as the airbox, I/c pump, alternator etc. I bought the shortblock from ford racing then found a set of 8 thread PI cylinder heads and had them ported. Cams are the comp blower cams.
The title had me thinking you had an actual Lightning and dropped the body and drive train onto a 4x4 reg cab, short bed frame. still a cool truck though.
My God I'm seriously jealous. Superb job sir...
I’d b lying if I said I wasn’t jealous
Love the truck!
Thank you for sharing this!
Still have your truck? Very interested to know how reliability held up. Beautiful truck brother 🇺🇸🤙
Yes, still have it. Haven't had any mechanical issues but I don't beat on it much. I did upgrade the heat exchanger to the big LFP one, that dropped my intake air temps about 10 degrees so that was a good buy over the stock heat exchanger.
@@thastinger345 I have an 02 Supercrew 5.4 4x4 with 117k miles on her. I’m seriously considering putting a blower on her.
@@inverted311 Takes some getting used to, she will get away from you if you're not careful. 507HP & 635TQ is a handful in a vehicle that doesn't have traction control etc. My 2013 GT500 has all those nanny systems and is MUCH better designed for the power lol
@@thastinger345 That Mustang is a nice ride for sure. I sold Fords and Lincolns at a huge dealership for a few years starting when the 2015 models came out. Retired now “not by choice” due to some medical issues, but I was able to drive many badass Mustangs while I was there.
I'm super interested in your build. I have an 02 Lariat Supercrew FX4 and this seems like the best for an everyday driver. Nice numbers too. I like your attitude about it "NOT trying to race a 5700 pound truck but maybe good to get a ricer occasionally" lol My sentiments exactly at 41 yrs old. Not looking for tickets, just maybe a conversational piece or a head turner at a red light once in a while. Piss off the Silverado guys who chop off their mufflers.
The guy with the channel AUTODETOUR has a great series about his Grandpa Truck build where he took basically the same truck and threw a single turbo on his. It's amazing the things held up BONE STOCK, 10lbs boost and over 500 horses. I'd personally rather go the route of the SC for towing my camper and the Texas heat where I live.
Dallas, you'll need a 5.4 NA computer (ECU). You can't run a V8 from your V6 ECU even with a custom tune. Will likely also need the 5.4 fan shroud and fan and maybe reloacate some sensors such as head temp and coolant sensors. Throttle and cruise control cables come to mind as well.
I have a 2003 similar to what's in this video, but with the 4r70w trans (4x4). I have complete lightning blower hardware for it, but was told by a tuner that I need to use the lightning ECU. Pls give me details re how to use the existing ECU to avoid needing a standalone trans controller or switching to a 4r100 trans (not easy, requires moving crossmember, new longer torsion bars, etc.).
@@mikeaimone2339 I'm using my stock ECU, my truck came with a 4R100 transmission though. You just need to find someone who is familiar with this swap. I.E. tuning NA 5.4 ECUs for Lighting top ends
Just came across a Supercharged HD F150, and planning on doing a swap into my 1999 F150 4.6 5 speed. Fortunately, I am able to get my hands on the entire truck. It's been wrecked, and my 4.6 is on it's last leg and has been parked until the heart transplant. Anyways, I have a few questions about your truck/build. Did you use the stock driveshaft with the truck or have a custom. I know you kept the stock trans and rear end, so I guess this doesn't apply to my situation. I will be swapping the Auto into my f150 from the HD, until I can get hands on a T56 and swap again later, but until then, enjoy an auto for a while.. lol Anyways, thanks in advance for any help..
I replied to you before but it isn't showing up for some reason. I retained both my stock driveshafts since I retained my original transmission and transfer case. My truck came with the 9.75 sterling rear end and the 8.8 front so they are pretty stout and haven't had any problems handling the new motor.
I really like your set up did use all lightning components or did use parts from your f150
That is a GREAT truck Stinger! Thanks for sharing your truck, very inspirational! Really like how you have integrated the interior like the factory! How is your transfer case holding up and what dash pod did you use? I have a vampire for mine as well and would like to put the WB & J&S on the dash. I am going with a wide navi console and putting my other gauges where the rear AC controls went for the sunroof equipped trucks.
I have the BW 4406 T-case, it is original to the truck and I haven't hurt it yet, even with 4WD street launches. I got the gauge pod off Lightningrodder.com, there was a guy who was making them at the time. I'm sure someone on the lightning forums is still making gauge pods like that, there was also a 3 pod option that had 2 on the left and one on the right.
@@thastinger345 Thanks man!! You have got me so stoked about finishing this up by the end of summer!
Nice build
A 10lb lower! With an upper! Damn
Beautiful truck
Thanks, she is still truckin along fine, no issues to date with the conversion.
hey thastinger345 look into fixing that CEL. old farmers trick is to stack 2 spark plug anti fowlers and drill through them. works a treat for a cat delete
max, the cel is fixed. It now has 2 cats on it, properly sized, instead of the 4 it came with.
Estou muito feliz com esse vídeo
Great job I like it
Where did you get the afr gauge holder that goes next to the air vent?
Glad i found your video. I'm going to do the same and make a series of it. If you're on here i may come back to pick your brain. Subbed :)
Yep, still have the truck, still running good, have had no significant issues since the conversion.
What tuning software are you running?
@@4g3d SCT. I'm running my OEM ECU as I had a NA 5.4 from the factory.
Keep the stock wheels ( sleeper )
Not trying to sharpshoot, but in 1998 Ford didn't call the heavy duty F150 the 7700 yet, they didn't change the name until year 2000. In 1998 Ford called it the light duty F250. Also, I thought Ford didn't put the 4R100 in the LD F250s until 1999; and your hub caps appear to be for the standard 5 -lug axle, rather than the 7-lug for the LDF250, or F150 7700? I own a 2003 F150 7700, and am considering this modification. Please, did you acquire a donor Lightening vehicle for all the parts, or did you buy them aftermarket?
This truck has a 9&3/4" rear end, 8.8 front and a 4r100 transmission, it is has the 7700 max tow package. It is not a LD250 so it doesn't have 7 lug wheels, all else is the same package the 250s got.
The only lighting specific components are the intake/midplate/intercooler/blower/pulley bridge/alternator/lower crank hub/throttle bracket...and I used a harley air box because I thought it looked more factory
Who ported the heads? And did you ever dyno it? The 5.4 in my 1997 Ford F150 XLT 4x4 went down and I am almost done with my build. You and I have almost the exact same setup and I was wondering what kind of power I can expect to make.
MHP did the heads. It put down 423HP and 525TQ
Did you raise the compression ratio? Smaller dish in the pistons, thinner head gasket, etc..
No, used 18cc dished pistons, less compression than N/A..about 8.4:1
Did you use the Lightning wiring harness or just lengthen the IAT wires?
I just relocated my IAT wires to fit the manifold. The 99-00 IAT sensor is on the driver side while the later years is on the passenger side. I used Lightning throttle and cruise control cables but those aren't made anymore so you'll need a bracket to use your NA cables or you'll need to find used L cables.
This is really cool.
is it still running after 9 years?
Yes it is. I ran the little Eaton blower up until this past Winter when I put on a Whipple 2.9 blower. It is about at the limit of what can be done on 93 pump gas.
@@thastinger345 Dang that's cool, Dose that make it quicker than the stock SVT lighting?
@@prebuiltear3927 motor makes 620hp and 740tq now, probably a good bit faster than the originals
@@thastinger345 Wow that's insane, Have you thought about doing an update video on the truck?
Could you do an update vid?
Do you know anything about swapping a 4.2l v6 for a 5.4l? I know they both use the same transmission and I'll have to get a new computer, I just want to know what else I'll be getting involve with. Thanks, Dallas
It's very easy. I did mine. Just use the 4.6 wiring harness. My computer work with the swap.
How much more is the MPG if any more..... I have 2001 F150 5.4 Lariat I like to add an supercharger as well ...where could I find all these parts I'm a mechanic I completely rebuilt my other 03 F150 4.2 V6 motor and suspention ....what about a Kenne Bell ?
I would recommend the forums dedicated to the Lightning platform for the parts, they will have a section dedicated to parts. I don't really track gas mileage much but I probably lost 1MPG if I stay out of boost. It takes power to turn the blower all the time. I could go with a larger whipple or KB but I use this as an actual truck and love the TQ the roots blower makes. This motor makes 650LbFt of TQ, that gets things moving.
How did the supercharger impact your mileage?
I probably get 1MPG less than I did. Depends on how you drive it, if you're in boost all the time it is gonna suck, you have to burn more fuel to go with the additional air under boost conditions. If you are just normally driving you won't see over 5Lbs of boost and even that is only merging/passing etc. The 1MPG loss, in my case, is most likely the power needed to spin the blower, they can suck up 100HP to turn them.
do you still own this truck?...I have a 2001 crew lariet that cost 31,450 new...I will never sell it but pass it down because my local cemetery said it not the same thing as a state approved casket..lol.....you got a great truck there....cheaper to keeper....i got online the other day and duplicated my truck with the tow group....and picked the lariet package.....OMG....near 50.000....give or take.....no thanks....i love what I have......and I love the payment....zero.....lol..
post more vids please
Chris, I do still own it. I use it mostly as a truck...mulch, firewood, fertilizer hauling, pulling the boat/camper etc. The local dirt drag track has a "street class"...has to be registered, pass state inspection, DOT tires etc. I've been toying with the idea of running it in that class just for fun.
thastinger345 that would be fun...wish I had your 17 inch wheels...i do have factory 17 inch...but they are the lariet group 1. wheels....uses the same center as yours....but mine aren't the directional aluminum
Since this video was taken, I bought refinished directional alum wheels just like these. They look brand new and are available on ebay.
Oh nice
I still have a 02 lightning supercharger complete swap kit for sale, anyone interested let me know
I’m interested
what are you asking for the kit
kron694 i sold it already man but if I ever get another kit I’ll let you know
OFD, when you refer to having a complete swap kit, please are you referring to all the components you salvaged from a donor Lightening truck? I understand you sold it, but if you acquire another complete system, (price dependent) I would be interested in the entire engine. I have a 2003, F150 7700 4x4, 4R100 trans, extra cab, and I would like to rebuild the engine, front/rear axles, and transmission.
@@UnderSprayedWhiteSkies yeah it was a complete swap, I bought all the parts needed for the swap, I was getting ready to install it on my 03 f150 but sadly my truck got totaled but sounds good man I’ll let you know if I ever get another full swap. I’m probably going to buy another 03 f150, really miss mine.
does it take a lot of different stuff or is it mostly plug and play?
Would recommend you join "lightning rodder" as these parts are getting hard to find now.
if you don't mind me asking how much did this cost you to do i think I'm going to do this to my truck
If you have a 2000 and up F150 you could probably do just the Lightning top end swap for around 3K. If you want to turn up the boost the you'll need a built bottom end with forged pistons.
Colton McGee I have a 02 Lightning supercharger kit for sale if your interested let me know
Hey I’m looking to put a lightning motor into my 03 lariat but did not get pcm or computer for the lightning motor. Did you use your factory truck pcm an computer or what did you do to get it to run
I used my NA 5.4 wiring harness and ECU. You have to get a custom tune written for it, then load it into your original ECU.
I want to do this so bad to my king ranch!
gotta get going on it then, these parts are becoming more difficult to find. At least start acquiring the parts necessary to convert it.
Alex Puls I have a 02 Lightning supercharger kit for sale if your interested let me know
OneFastHD do you still have?
Where did you get the throttle cable & bracket & also the supercharger reservoir tank ?
I bought all those from Ford racing back when they were still making them. The Lightning cables are no longer made but there is a guy on lightningrodders.com that sells some custom made brackets that let you use your stock throttle and cruise control cables in the conversion.
You can find the tanks on ebay usually.
Cool I see what I find thanks
If u dont mind does this conversion make it burn more gas?
Depends on how hard you drive it. If you're in boost all the time then of course it is going to burn more gas because you are making more power than the NA engine used to make. If you grandma it around, it gets 1MPG less than it did before.
@@thastinger345 ok a did u have to do anything to your transmission doing this conversion
I noticed it had the old mechanical speedometer.. what year is this, 97-98?
EDIT: I see now it is.a 98
Yes...she is a 98...odometers went digital in the 99 model year
@@thastinger345 gearing up for my 97 Lariat swap in May with a 02 lightning engine and t56. Like you Hope, I'm doing for towing..Hope it turns out as clean as yours. Have you driven it much?
@@19jody72 I still have her, could daily drive her if I wanted to...but she takes 93 octane only. Transmission is built now, triple disc torque converter, 300m input shaft, billet fwd drum, 6 pinion planets etc...I race her sometimes now...fwd drive shaft is my only worry now
@@thastinger345 Awesome!!!
@@19jody72 Did you get the swap done?
Is it bad to ask how much something like this is to buy? I have a 2001 f150 xlt super crew with the 5.4 and I would love doing this but don't know enough about all of it yet.
Price really depends on how "bullet proof" you want the motor and what your power goals are. To swap on a Lightning intake system to your truck you're probably looking at 2-3K and it would get you probably 380HP and 450TQ...how long the bottom end would last would probably depend on how hard your were on it. A fully built short block like my truck has will cost you 4k right by itself but its good to 1000HP...which I'll never come close to.
John McClellan I have a 02 Lightning supercharger kit for sale if your interested let me know
I wanted to do this but I have a 4.6 in my truck what type of trouble am I going to run into what do I need to make this swap work
You would need the 5.4 ECU, wiring harness and some of the sensors. I would recommend going over to lightningrodder.com or f150.com and post in the conversion sections, there are a lot of folks who have done the conversion you're wanting to do but I already had the 5.4 so I can't tell you exactly what you would need.
Richard Lara I have a 02 Lightning supercharger kit for sale if your interested let me know
What kind of cam are thoes and do you have a part number?
XE262BH-16
@@thastinger345 thanks
What did you have to do for your gauges to work?
which ones? The factory guages all work as they used to before the swap. The aftermarket gauges come with instructions and sender units.
You have to install and connect in order for them to work.
What made your truck come stock with the 4R100 tranny? I figured that was more rare.
He said that it came with the 7700 package. I think that comes with the 4r100
Shouldn’t it be the 4r70w for that yr 97-03 ?
@@carpetcleaning3605 I would think. I've read several reasons trucks had that trans it's just rare to see. That and I guess maybe see if he made a typo
@@scottskinner577 Nah, not a typo. It is a unique thing but if you got the "max tow" package then you got the 4R100(it is not an E4OD) for at least the first part of the model year. It is hard to say exactly when the switch to the 4R100 happened. I know all 99s and up have the 4R70 and it seems some 98s have the 4R100 and some have the 4R70.
@@bebeslife4519 It has the 7700 "max tow" package, it isn't a LD250 but it has the same running gear the LD250s had minus the 7 lug wheels. I have the 9.75 read, 8.8 front and 4R100 tranny, BW4406 transfer case.
What did u need to add super charger...
Just to tow our toy hauler a little better than my old 5.4 did. In all honesty I could have lived with the towing as it was but I had a mid-life crisis and this was cheaper than trading my ol lady in on a set of 20 year olds.
Pedro Escamilla I have a 02 Lightning supercharger kit for sale if your interested let me know
About how much money did you drop for parts and stuff?
I’m just curious because I wanna do this to my f150
If you have a 99 and up F150 you could probably do just the Lightning top end swap for around 3K. If you want to turn up the boost the you'll need a built bottom end with forged pistons. Since my truck came with NPI cylinder heads, I had to switch to PI heads so considering that, I went ahead and built a brand new engine, including buying a new block, steel crank, forged rods/pistons and ARP 2000 hardware, so I spent a bit over 8K including exhaust and a tripple disc torque converter. My truck had the 4r100 transmission already (the weakest version but still stronger than a 70).
Do you think a 98 will work as well?
esaay I have a 02 Lightning supercharger kit for sale if your interested let me know
@@Jesus1320_ just seen this but do you still have it for sale? lmaoo
how much was the total cost ?
Its been a while ago, truck is still running great though. I probably spent 8K but I build a whole new motor with a new block, Manley internals and ARP studs everywhere. The little things add up, like the fuel pumps, hoses, fittings etc. You can spend 700 on the SCT handheld tuner and the tune to go with it.
Do you still have the 4r70 in there?
No. My truck came with the 4r100. Although it is a 4r100...it is the most weak of the bunch. The strength of 4r100s went, 7.3PSD, V10 expedition, Lightning, then 7700 package F150. My tranny has 145K on it now and it seems just fine. I don't beat on the truck much and I have a triple disc, billet front, aftermarket converter. My understanding was that the converter was the weakest link in the original tranny design. I will eventually get the transmission built more robust.
+thastinger345 do you think a 4r70 could hold like 5-6 psi????? Or would I need to get a new converter??
5-6 psi on an otherwise stock motor is different than 5-6 psi on a motor with cams, ported heads, high flow exhaust, etc. I'm making 15.6 psi with ported heads, cams, built bottom end, long tube headers etc and my 4r100 has been fine for 10K+ miles.... but I don't beat on it. Mine put down 423HP and 525TQ on the dyno. A 4r70 should be able to handle 350 Tq. A 4r100 should handle 500 Tq, at the crank of the motor...that is the way ford assigned the numbers to them. I would get a converter regardless, you'll eventually need it anyway. Mine is a Circle D and I've been very pleased with it over the years.
I think you should be ok but you always have to be prepared to "pay-to-play"
wow very nice pale
thank you Sir, she is still running strong
I have a 02 Lightning supercharger kit for sale let me know for more info
OneFastHD how much? What all comes with it?
turbomopie $2200 shipped it’s a full blower swap all you need to swap it on a regular F150 5.4 if you google it you will see it a lot of parts
turbomopie I’m open to offers too
You still around
Yeah, truck still runs great
@@thastinger345 awesome!! Gathering info and parts to do mine..except using a 6 speed. 97 Lariat 4.6 5 speed 2wd
@@thastinger345 Did you use the lightning harness or the stock truck harness?
Did you get your swap done?
@@19jody72 My truck had the NA 5.4 in it already so I used my original harness and ECU. I didn't use the 4 sensors on the drivers side that the Lightning uses though (barometric pressure, EGR controller, air density). I only had to extend my IAT wire and my TPS wire.