Brutally Honest Rant to All TCGPlayer Sellers

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Komentáře • 182

  • @CNA-Games
    @CNA-Games  Před 3 měsíci +33

    Yall.. the bafoon is meee! I didn’t even mention the actual “shipping cost” - the postage cost - in the pricing breakdown. So all those numbers subtract 64 cents - it illustrates my point even more. Ah well, that’s rant videos for ya, they aren’t exactly planned out to the T. Thanks for watching

    • @JimmyTheSaintDailyVideos
      @JimmyTheSaintDailyVideos Před 3 měsíci +1

      A LOT of sellers are using "forever" postage stamps. You can buy them for less than 20 cents per stamp when buying in bulk and that mitigates the costs dramatically. But I 100% get your point. Several years ago I learned to only list cards for 25 cents or higher as it wasnt worth my time to bother with anything cheaper. I think most people listing bulk/cheap cards are trying to get the volume up enough to qualify for direct.

    • @GIC2023
      @GIC2023 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@JimmyTheSaintDailyVideosWhere are you buying forever stamps for 20 cents?

    • @JimmyTheSaintDailyVideos
      @JimmyTheSaintDailyVideos Před 3 měsíci

      @@GIC2023 Ebay. I double checked before I posted. I found a listing for $199 for 1000 forever stamps.

    • @Fatescore
      @Fatescore Před 3 měsíci

      @@JimmyTheSaintDailyVideosthose $0.20 stamps are counterfeit.

    • @Crocodonk
      @Crocodonk Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@JimmyTheSaintDailyVideos Where does one get stamps for 20cents that are not fake? I'm asking for a friend.'

  • @boondockgames8805
    @boondockgames8805 Před 3 měsíci +17

    Directions unclear, PSA slab is now stuck in my blender.

  • @ProfessorOakYouTube
    @ProfessorOakYouTube Před 3 měsíci +19

    Don’t confuse rant with communicating expertise. Love your candid speak 💛

  • @Eddyb1e
    @Eddyb1e Před 3 měsíci +13

    As a smaller TCGplayer vendor not in the direct program, with shipping on the lower side (but not the minimum), when I come across an order with say 50/100+ cards, I simply accept that the few times that occurs per year I will have to ship in an envelope or small box with tracking to get the right rates. And in this case, yes, our situations are different. You can't compare a store(s) such as yourself whose time needs to be worth more, to mine own where I spend an hour or so once in a while sorting/listing the one box I cracked. I do make this up with the majority of orders that I can ship in a regular windowed envelope. BUT I get your point, if the vendor is complaining, then raising your shipping cost is a viable solution. No reason to complain about something that is within your control. I only wish that their shipping structure allowed for automatic realization that a certain number of cards meets a weight category and it pushed it to the next shipping level. That their system can't figure that out is probably a worthy discussion.

    • @CNA-Games
      @CNA-Games  Před 3 měsíci +3

      For sure, dynamic shipping costs would be great, but with everyone doing things differently, it would make for a very confusing shopping experience for buyers.

    • @heatwavetcg
      @heatwavetcg Před 3 měsíci +3

      The $5 free shipping threshold is way too low. It's $50 for direct sellers. Trying to compete with direct sellers on low cost items will never be possible unless they increase that threshold or change the default filter to item price only, which isn't gonna happen.

  • @Libcath101
    @Libcath101 Před 3 měsíci +10

    I would be happy it TCGPlayer would set a floor for card cost to be 10 or 15 cents so it is a more level playfield.
    The difference of selling with "free shipping at $5 and shipping for a fixed shipping cost is 10x for me. I personally experimented on this. I had 3-10 sales a week when I matched the minimum shipping fee, but when I switched to "free shipping" my sales went up 10 fold (most of them do not make the minimum). The best price algorithm is skewed to the "free shipping at $5", even if the buyer does not reach the $5. I personally complained to TCGPlayer to increase the minimum from 99 cent as my cost is .82 cents per letter.
    The noobs like me don't have thousands of cards, don't buy bulk at $1 for 100 cards, auto sorting machines, or buy up collections to have more chance for bulk orders. They are trying to sell a little to get some money back from opening packs. Call it a loss leader if you sell something with no profit, as long as you make some money back in the end. At least for the hobbyist, different matter for the full time business owner like you.

    • @heatwavetcg
      @heatwavetcg Před 3 měsíci

      If I turn free shipping off I get the same result - a huge reduction in orders. I tested a lot with different strategies but free shipping (even with some downsides) is a must imo if you're non-direct. To counter the loss in shipping fees I just price it into my cards. I might have 1 or 2 cards at TCG low out of an inventory of 4000. Most are about 1.5x market, but I have a script I run once or twice a day to keep my prices competitive. But yeah, you need a strategy and you need to price the loss of shipping into every single card. People will still buy from you consistently as long as you deliver a good product.

  • @peekdatchu
    @peekdatchu Před 3 měsíci +16

    “Babe wake up…Mason posted a new rant.”

  • @Rubiksguy
    @Rubiksguy Před 3 měsíci +9

    you accidentally hold someone’s address up for a full second, clear as day to see, while you’re thinking. Twice. 3:40 and then later near the end on the last order I’d go into the CZcams editor and cut that part

    • @williampaskewitz5383
      @williampaskewitz5383 Před 3 měsíci +1

      RIP privacy

    • @chesterfeild7
      @chesterfeild7 Před 3 měsíci

      2 addresses actually. There’s another one underneath Christian’s for a Virginia address in the same grab that is filmed in 4K 😂

    • @jaketanner7961
      @jaketanner7961 Před 3 měsíci

      in reality the chances that theres a person on the internet with the sole purpose of harassing random people online by exploiting their address comes specifically to CNA Games youtube channel to find said addresses is astronomically slim, there are infinitely better places and methods to acquire people's personal information if that was your goal. you would have to be an incredibly inefficient cyber criminal or internet troll to click on a video like this for it. relax your paranoia.

  • @nuvixgaming
    @nuvixgaming Před 3 měsíci +4

    Similar to every game store that sells boxes for wholesale cost right off the bat

  • @drewduffiney
    @drewduffiney Před 3 měsíci +29

    The base requirement of $600/week in sales to get accepted into direct is too much for most sellers

    • @CNA-Games
      @CNA-Games  Před 3 měsíci +2

      I am of the understanding that that is a guideline, but moreso your inventory count is important above all. If you have around 3000-5000 cards you should be able to join direct.

    • @drewduffiney
      @drewduffiney Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@CNA-Games Maybe how open they are to new members fluctuates, ive been denied 3 times and because i was denied i reduced my store size for the same reasons you spoke of in the video.

    • @ThePatrickmcrae71
      @ThePatrickmcrae71 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@CNA-GamesI've had over 10k in inventory for over a year and haven't been able to get in. I believe the $600/wk threshold is the main reason

    • @TheBearNecessiTCG
      @TheBearNecessiTCG Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@CNA-Games I have 19 thousand cards listed and I got denied direct even though my sales are steady.

    • @lukebobb
      @lukebobb Před 3 měsíci +3

      I have a million cards listed and they still won’t let me in.

  • @thepghcid
    @thepghcid Před 3 měsíci

    this is great info!. passed along in the RNG Gamez discord, just a heads up, that address flashes on the screen a couple times. I'm probably being a little OD, but the internet will internet

  • @MadTownHobby
    @MadTownHobby Před 3 měsíci +6

    "the most business illiterate people i've ever had the pleasure of having as competition" had me rollin! tell it Mason!

    • @eco8gator
      @eco8gator Před 3 měsíci

      Mason...you can't fix stupid. I get that profit is profit but some folks just don't understand that the end result needs to be worth all the time and effort.

  • @dustinstaats3372
    @dustinstaats3372 Před 3 měsíci +1

    We’re finally getting a consistent amount of TCGs and are moving a lot more singles. We’ve increased our shipping and now have no car for less than .25 cents. It just doesn’t make sense to list a card and manage the sale of it unless it’s at least a quarter. Glad we raised shipping because it definitely helps when someone orders a $2 or less card.

  • @barbarahouston6127
    @barbarahouston6127 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Good info! What about requiring a minimum order amount?

  • @FinalTrade
    @FinalTrade Před 3 měsíci +4

    I've progressively increased my shipping fee from $0.99 to $2.49 and it's only slightly reduced my non-Direct orders, maybe by 20%. There's a lot more room for sellers to raise their shipping fee than they think.

    • @heatwavetcg
      @heatwavetcg Před 3 měsíci +1

      There's a lot more room for direct sellers because the free shipping threshold is $50. There's essentially zero room for non-direct sellers with the free shipping threshold at $5.
      If I raise my shipping 25 cents I basically guarantee that none of my bulk cards will ever be seen unless they're add-ons or someone's searching by item price only, which is pretty rare.

    • @FaryaWolyo_
      @FaryaWolyo_ Před 3 měsíci +1

      Just to double check... When you increase your shipping fee, you can't use the "free shipping over $5" feature, right? You charge the value of shipping regardless of how much was purchased?

    • @heatwavetcg
      @heatwavetcg Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@FaryaWolyo_ If you're a non-direct seller, correct. You cannot change it. If you do you'll lose the algorithm boost.

    • @FaryaWolyo_
      @FaryaWolyo_ Před 3 měsíci

      @@heatwavetcg I happen to be a direct seller, what exactly does that change though? Thanks for the help. :)

  • @snakeberg24
    @snakeberg24 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This video is very justifying and eye opening for me. I sell on tcgplayer as a means to fund my collection, and hearing Mason have issues with the margins of sales as a business makes me feel better about similar issues as an individual. I am in no means a big seller as I average 20 sales a month max, and really do not list any big value cards (I've only listed over $10 maybe 5 times). Back in November I upped my shipping to above what tcgplayer decided to do recently and found that it worked decently for me. But I think Mason's input of not listing cards under a certain price is what will really help me in the long run. Thank you for the insight and advice! Look forward to more videos!

  • @benelleliv
    @benelleliv Před 3 měsíci +28

    Pro tip, if you're gonna 'hide' people's private info, dont wave the paper around in a 4K video, doesnt take much to see their address.

    • @JimmyTheSaintDailyVideos
      @JimmyTheSaintDailyVideos Před 3 měsíci +9

      "Im not gonna show anybodys address or anything." Immediately waves it around displaying the buyers name and full address. Clearly visible when paused.

    • @dadcanibeagirl
      @dadcanibeagirl Před 3 měsíci

      yeah unlike you skitzo freak im not really interested in random people's addresses

    • @Mat-tg4fk
      @Mat-tg4fk Před 3 měsíci +2

      Replying to give this comment closer to the top. CNA please add censorship edits to every frame where the documents are visible.

    • @galoyd2
      @galoyd2 Před 3 měsíci

      Pro tip, you can't make out the info even on a 4k video, and there's no address info on the part he showed anyway. Mason knows what he's doing.

    • @JimmyTheSaintDailyVideos
      @JimmyTheSaintDailyVideos Před 3 měsíci

      @@galoyd2 Pro tip, you are wrong. At 3:40 I can clearly make out the order number, date and the buyers full name and mailing address in Wisconsin. At 8:58 I can make out the buyers full name and address in North Carolina. Again at 11:01 I can see the buyers name, address and apartment number in New York. Im not going to type it all out as then I would be doxing these people also.

  • @20soccerjock
    @20soccerjock Před 3 měsíci

    One thing I don't understand, and I think it is prob more a USPS issue than TCGP issue, is how an order from a seller a state or two over takes 2-3 weeks to arrive when a seller across the country gets here in 4-5 days. Seriously, this happens all the time for me. And I'm talking about orders around $5-10 with and w/o free shipping in a regular envelop. Any ideas?!?!

  • @quarterd50
    @quarterd50 Před 3 měsíci

    Yea I had what I felt was a good flow of sales over the last month and was told I didn't have enough in total sales. I have enough cards listed, almost 5k, and I am in good standing but apparently I don't make enough money off .05 cards to get into their direct program lol. I also have a floor of .15 so idk what else to do.

  • @UnwantedCommentary
    @UnwantedCommentary Před 3 měsíci

    Always love your insight and takes. People are really bad at business...

    • @UnwantedCommentary
      @UnwantedCommentary Před 3 měsíci

      Lol I wanna see the original post you are talking about though

  • @justinspragan4885
    @justinspragan4885 Před 3 měsíci

    Was your shipping 1.99 when you started? I understand that all these out of pocket prices were lower when you started, but I would still like to know.

  • @PopCultureArchives
    @PopCultureArchives Před 3 měsíci +2

    $4.99 shipping here. I don't want any orders under $10. The number of times people buy a 50 cent card and pay $4.99 shipping absolutely baffles me.

    • @kyr_glassjar
      @kyr_glassjar Před 3 měsíci

      This. It might just be the cart optimizer, but I've shipped countless orders under $0.25 with 4.99 shipping pwe.

    • @PopCultureArchives
      @PopCultureArchives Před 3 měsíci

      @@kyr_glassjar I don't feel right charging the fee and not shipping first class. It would be nice if it was generally acceptable, then I could make a couple bucks on the labor.

  • @viyami
    @viyami Před měsícem

    Just tossing my 2 cents of profit into the ring here: We're a Direct shop and to discourage small marketplace orders we charge $4.20 for shipping and have a price floor (what we charge at a minimum) of $0.35 which is competitive with other major professional sellers SCG and CK. We're even considering upping that to $0.69 like TOA has set, because of economic pressure and the extremely low profitability of those small items, even as add-ons.
    Our base pricing is about TCG mid/median and the items most effected items are in the

  • @Classat12
    @Classat12 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Can’t get on direct without making lots of sales. Can’t make lots of sales without being low on price (and shipping).
    Good concept, but not actionable for most

  • @99davecutts
    @99davecutts Před 3 měsíci +3

    It blows my mind that any seller lists any card for under $0.25.

  • @bradcox8754
    @bradcox8754 Před měsícem

    Sold on TCG for 2 and half years loved it. But always kept my minimum card listed at .75¢ and 5$ minimum for free shipping and 1.25$ flat shipping. So bulk listings I got at least 2$ and low end 5$ below didn't feel as lowsy.
    Everything I eventually moved to sell was 5$ or more just because I had to value my time higher.
    So I understand your frustration Mason. Thanks for the video 😊

  • @ChicagoMintTCG
    @ChicagoMintTCG Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love it. Great topic today Mason

  • @UniversalKC
    @UniversalKC Před 3 měsíci

    I found similarities with what you said that can be related to any business that has an increase in traffic, to keep up with traffic prices have to rise so that needs can be met- increased stock takes money increased manual labor takes money. It’s a part of any business, but small traders have to get ongoing customers so to be competitive in early stages of their business any competitive edge make yield a return customer!

  • @bcutt8629
    @bcutt8629 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm so glad I have good Vision fixing My glasses that many times would drive me insane.

  • @TheBearNecessiTCG
    @TheBearNecessiTCG Před 3 měsíci

    My floor price is .25 but I'm thinking about raising it to .50 that way everyone can get the best packaging/shipping on every card and I can still make money. It amazes me how many people just buy a single card at .25 cents, I think I make a few pennies on orders like that.

    • @kylekppack7978
      @kylekppack7978 Před 3 měsíci

      50 cents seems more logical. Half the orders = the same money. Less packaging supplies and more time to list more cards.

  • @jakefrompallettown8181
    @jakefrompallettown8181 Před 3 měsíci

    Mason i hope you see this because I want an honest opinion. I am one of those what are you doing people....Im a small store ~2k total sales. I am a stay at home dad and vast majority of my inventory is just cheap bulk. I buy stamps in bulk and cut costs to a minimum. Do you think I should switch to direct? For me its mainly just a time killer to make an extra $10-40 a week lol.

    • @jakefrompallettown8181
      @jakefrompallettown8181 Před 3 měsíci

      to add to the note at the very end I do not lose out on any sale even a .05 card which is my minimum i was profiting .10 after fees & supplies before the increase in shipping.

    • @Crocodonk
      @Crocodonk Před 3 měsíci

      @@jakefrompallettown8181 Hello, where do you buy stamps in bulk?

    • @Earnham
      @Earnham Před měsícem

      China

  • @leekichang8359
    @leekichang8359 Před 2 měsíci

    Is that 40 cents including stamp? Next level

  • @TheSnackAttackingSnorlax
    @TheSnackAttackingSnorlax Před 3 měsíci

    I have 4 sales and I don’t even know what direct is!!! I have no interest in listing and managing thousands of cards. Nor do I have any interest in having to sell $600/week. I just want a place to unload some sealed product down the line. I rip some product for fun and I’m gonna start selling some of the bigger cards. But I don’t wanna mess with bulk. Even like $5 card isn’t really worth it :/ lol.

  • @soldbyronnie
    @soldbyronnie Před 3 měsíci

    I honestly didn't even know that I could apply to be a direct seller. I assumed it was only for brick-and-mortar storefronts. I've struggled with selling multiple cards for one flat shipping rate of $1.22. I wish it was progressive and each card added x number of cents. Oh well. Thanks for the info, Mason!

    • @drewduffiney
      @drewduffiney Před 3 měsíci

      you have to be doing $600+ per week in sales to get in

    • @soldbyronnie
      @soldbyronnie Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@drewduffiney yep I got denied 🤣

    • @drewduffiney
      @drewduffiney Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@soldbyronnie ive been denied 3 times lol

    • @Crocodonk
      @Crocodonk Před 3 měsíci +1

      I agree that after x amount of cards purchased the shipping cost should increase some. Troll & Toad does that. Troll & Toad starts charging more for shipping when you go over 28 cards or something like that.

    • @ThePatrickmcrae71
      @ThePatrickmcrae71 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@Crocodonkfor sports cards COMC and Sportlots do the same thing. Most logical way to do shipping.

  • @lukebobb
    @lukebobb Před 3 měsíci

    This is useful info thanks man 👍👍

  • @quarterd50
    @quarterd50 Před 3 měsíci

    Also this could be fixed super ez by tcg if they would jsut let you set shipping based on how many cards or weight

  • @MrChonkachu
    @MrChonkachu Před 3 měsíci

    Im probably giving up on tcgplayer all together. The way their market prices are generated is super messed up and unclear. Pulled all inventory today!

  • @ShiningCardsandCollectibles
    @ShiningCardsandCollectibles Před 3 měsíci +1

    Damn your beard is fierce mason

  • @CardThrone
    @CardThrone Před 3 měsíci

    Agreed with everything said here, been running my tcgplayer store the same way. I don't buy into the "lose money to make money" argument, definitely better to just cut out unprofitable orders entirely.

    • @rogueinvestor2375
      @rogueinvestor2375 Před 3 měsíci +1

      It works for big businesses, but not small businesses.

  • @KrispyLegend69
    @KrispyLegend69 Před 3 měsíci

    Only ever go direct when I have made a very expensive purchase, or I have purchased high dollar cards that I don't want any tomfoolery to occur with them. The extra cost is well worth it imo.

  • @skaternesto
    @skaternesto Před 3 měsíci +4

    Mason talking rn

  • @ricardoblikman2676
    @ricardoblikman2676 Před 3 měsíci

    They should add a minimum total amount of combined orders!

  • @professorburch
    @professorburch Před 3 měsíci +2

    Mason be spittin' 🔥

  • @MTGUnpacked
    @MTGUnpacked Před 3 měsíci +1

    If you're selling that cheap, either go direct or invest in a shredder and feed your cash into it one note at a time. At least that way you're not wasting quite as much time!

  • @hughmyers8583
    @hughmyers8583 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Every time I setup an order on TCG player the order says it's coming from 20 sellers and I just delete the order. It's not a great platform.

  • @Card_Capital
    @Card_Capital Před 3 měsíci

    I wish I could sell direct. It has huge huge requirements tho

  • @RaymondChing
    @RaymondChing Před 3 měsíci +1

    The direct seller program is insanity. I really dont know how they are doing it for .01 sales. I refuse to sell cards under .15 as well but I'm a one man show

  • @Iamwillz
    @Iamwillz Před 3 měsíci

    You chose to do sell bulk tho.

  • @johndougan8728
    @johndougan8728 Před 3 měsíci

    this is why i quit selling cards under $2
    everything in my tcg store cost $2 or more

  • @herotcg4028
    @herotcg4028 Před 3 měsíci

    Can you make money selling singles?

  • @renaokawa6199
    @renaokawa6199 Před 3 měsíci

    I usually go to direct unless not available for a reasonable price. Only thing i dont agree with is a 4x maekup on some cards that are worth in the hundreds. A bit over market sure, but 1000$ for a 250$ card..... i dunno.

    • @chexnfx7161
      @chexnfx7161 Před 3 měsíci

      Nobody is paying $1000 for a $250 card

    • @renaokawa6199
      @renaokawa6199 Před 2 měsíci

      @chexnfx7161 there are definitely some direct cards that are well over 4x markup. Didn't say anyone was buying them I just said I dunno how I feel about that.

    • @chexnfx7161
      @chexnfx7161 Před 2 měsíci

      @@renaokawa6199 kind of silly imo to think somebody can’t ask whatever they want. I saw a common Pikachu with an asking price of $197,000 haha

  • @Mr.Walrus.
    @Mr.Walrus. Před 3 měsíci

    Catching up on all I missed. I think the main issue is how many sellers just do it as a hobby and do it poorly.

  • @superretrogamerbros.8492
    @superretrogamerbros.8492 Před 3 měsíci

    This is exactly why I arbitrage these stores for my own store. I hope they don’t go away anytime soon because I like paying a penny for a card that I’m selling for 50 cents.

  • @thepullfather
    @thepullfather Před 3 měsíci +1

    Night Audit Power!!!

  • @Chad-Culver
    @Chad-Culver Před 3 měsíci

    I hate the direct because they charge you tax amd the cards and if gone through customs I also have to pay custom fees that are Unproportioned

  • @quarterd50
    @quarterd50 Před 3 měsíci

    What i.dont understand is the people who race to the floor price, like why. Just stick with your price and once the 1 or 2 guus above you sell urs is next.

  • @Fatescore
    @Fatescore Před 3 měsíci

    At the end of the day we all lose because people don’t understand the concept that time is money. Time is your most valuable asset and there are people who don’t value anyone’s time.
    I personally wish I could just charge $4.49 shipping and include tracking with every order and keep the same sales velocity, but we all know what wouldn’t happen.

  • @GypsyStacker
    @GypsyStacker Před 3 měsíci +1

    You're all hopped up on Propell and Pop Tarts Sir...

  • @AndyseousOdyssey
    @AndyseousOdyssey Před 3 měsíci

    Then the ppl that do free shipping , I want to quit tcg player but it moves product so fast.

  • @furstenfeld3296
    @furstenfeld3296 Před 3 měsíci

    This lack of time awareness hits hard when folks go to sell cards to a shop and scoff at only being offered 70% of tcg player prices. "For everything?"

  • @KetchumAllCollectibles
    @KetchumAllCollectibles Před 3 měsíci

    If Oldskoolpokemon of 2 years ago heard this video he would have words for you

  • @jeffreys4417
    @jeffreys4417 Před 3 měsíci

    Have you ever considered that they would be selling at a loss to essentially try to drive you out of the marketplace? You can’t complete with these low prices so you either lower your prices or leave the marketplace

    • @CNA-Games
      @CNA-Games  Před 3 měsíci

      Hold on... People are losing money and wasting their time to make ME leave the platform? I don't follow.

    • @chexnfx7161
      @chexnfx7161 Před 3 měsíci

      Lol...yeah right. Timmy and Jimmy arent trying/will be succesfull with that.

  • @The_clutch_sliped
    @The_clutch_sliped Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is why I sell on Mercari 😂 right now theres 0 sellers fee it’s way easier to upload your cards and if your package gets lost you’ll get your money back

  • @JediMasterT
    @JediMasterT Před 3 měsíci

    I don't sell anything less than 50 cents cause I learned super early that selling anything lower than that I'm losing money.
    I don't factor in the "worth your time" because I do it for fun. I don't sell enough for it to take hours for me to send out cards but yea I don't sell anything that low it's pointless.

  • @eace446
    @eace446 Před 3 měsíci

    Oh no I just started selling on TCG player I hope this isn't about me.

  • @KetchumAllCollectibles
    @KetchumAllCollectibles Před 3 měsíci

    Oh it makes sense. Er cents I mean. Literal cents!

  • @Romanshorn84
    @Romanshorn84 Před 3 měsíci

    I charge 5$ for shipping to scare of buyers since I focus on TCG direct. However it never works, lol. The number of people that buy a single 5 cent card and pay $5 shipping is staggering. Oh well.

  • @TheCardFatherTCG
    @TheCardFatherTCG Před 3 měsíci +1

    Sure. You're selling MTG and higher end Pokemon. Try doing the same thing with bulk Pokemon. The costs for selling bulk Pokemon cards is no where near $.24 card.The only way to move bulk singles of Pokemon is running them near or below market and often times, Lowest Price w/o Shipping.
    As I agree with your rant, and I'm a direct seller through TCGPlayer, the reality is that the card market is being diminished by racing to the bottom and TCGPlayer favors MTG over the others. I have all of my mass price, direct systems, costs for shipping down, but IF I price my cards with a floor of $.15 or $.20, the don't sell. If I raise my shipping beyond the free over $5, they don't sell. So as for your logic, I agree. But it does not apply across the spectrum. I continuously have to sell Pokémon cards below the market and or lowest price to move them. So the shipping of 30-40 cards becomes a hassle when I can't move them any other way. The logical statement is to increase your prices, which I've seen in the same group, but that doesn't apply to Pokémon. And often times they aren't in direct and you can't charge a premium when they TCGPlayer doesn't have them.

    • @TheCardFatherTCG
      @TheCardFatherTCG Před 3 měsíci

      And upping your shipping, people won't buy. I'm on direct. I have increased my prices and still no orders in the last week.

    • @floridaman6982
      @floridaman6982 Před 3 měsíci

      @@TheCardFatherTCG the rant was to prevent small orders in the first place.

    • @TheCardFatherTCG
      @TheCardFatherTCG Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@floridaman6982 That point does not escape me. I sell through TCGPlayer often as a Direct Seller and my comment does state that I agree with him. But again, the issue is certainly undercutting and creating a vacuum. But in general, MTG sells better than Pokemon and if his orders reflect that, the rant is specific, not general and not all the info applies.

  • @Krusttyy
    @Krusttyy Před 3 měsíci

    So why do you sell cheap cards on tcgplayer?

  • @TheTobaccoman
    @TheTobaccoman Před 3 měsíci

    Hey god bless all the legit single sellers out there. I appreciate you and hope all goes well with the sales and profits from it.

  • @scottlandis5985
    @scottlandis5985 Před 3 měsíci

    Would be great if every game was on direct sure. Or if i owned a $22k ROCA…sure

  • @pokene_pokemon
    @pokene_pokemon Před 3 měsíci

    I love me a good honest rant

  • @theTegRNG
    @theTegRNG Před 3 měsíci

    Some of us just treat this as a hobby man - in those cases your time goes from a cost to a leisure with no overhead

  • @mrguymanjr5777
    @mrguymanjr5777 Před 3 měsíci +5

    !!GUYS JUST POINTING THIS OUT FOR YOU THAT HE FAILED TO MENTION !! to get direct there's a ton of hoops you got to jump through. i also think a lot of guys are selling the low low to get to level 4 if tcg player got rid of seller levels the market would stabilize PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO CHASE THE BOTTOM TO GET TO LEVEL 4. also bro your talking about direct like its just a click away and you are IN! this is not the case. also there a bunch of casual sellers who just wanna be in the hobby and have fun buy selling cards to so they don't care about the low or if they take a loss.

    • @refineme
      @refineme Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes. This is my situation and I’m thinking of selling on TCG as a casual seller purely as part of the hobby. I’m not in it to “make” a profit, but just to get the most of what I sell and roll into other parts of my collection. I could sell on FB or Craigslist, but it is such a hassle and buyers either low ball once you do meet or never show up. I don’t want to be a store and make it my daily job, just use it as a platform to sell things I no longer want. I just feel pressure to sell lower items at a loss or break even to get volume and feedback up, then be able to be trusted by buyers on my more expensive stuff.

  • @RandomLILZAY1
    @RandomLILZAY1 Před 3 měsíci

    What you dont take account for, and i understands why, is that alot of these sellers use fake stamps lol. There's plenty of people on fb and ebay that sell rolls of fakes for like 20-30$ a roll. Usps doesnt catch them often either. I know stores who use them also. Thats how and why alot of them dont complain much about shipping. Spend 200$ for 1k fake forevers, then you use the momey you save to buy bulk envelopes, top loaders, etc... the people doing it legit are spending close to 1k a year on shipping supplies while people cutting corners are spending half that and not getting caught.

  • @AndyseousOdyssey
    @AndyseousOdyssey Před 3 měsíci

    “Inflation” I’m surprised how much cheaper ppl are selling cards now than ever. Especially for Pokémon , dbs, yugioh , an many more. And customers just wait now cuz they know some ppl will dump product on tcg player. I’m with mason I don’t understand how ppl get into business to lose money on tcg unless they get it cheaper than distro , which is not possible or it’s stolen product . Selling at these cheap prices makes no sense

  • @mtgmocksman1407
    @mtgmocksman1407 Před 3 měsíci

    Yeah, I don’t know if I agree with this at all. I don’t care what other sellers want to do with their inventory, but I expect to be paid for what I do. I personally don’t sell anything under .25, and I’ve had orders of one or two hundred cards at that price, specifically the new Star Wars cards which are flying. When that order costs $5,6,7,8 to ship, I should at least have an option in my sellers portal to charge more for shipping. In those instances, everyone wins except the guys doing all the work.

  • @G0ATMANJAR0
    @G0ATMANJAR0 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You talk extremely fast! I thought my video was playing at 1.5 speed!

  • @kyleneeley1
    @kyleneeley1 Před 3 měsíci

    Sometimes I’ll be looking for a random card and see the lowest listing is a penny. So I’ll go to that guy’s store and see he has lots of cards listed for a penny. It just makes me think like I could order 500 cards from this guy right now and he’d make $0 and then spend hours putting it together 😂 Man don’t set yourself up for that

  • @Jesse31597
    @Jesse31597 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I will change my shipping rates and check back with you in a month

    • @travisrob5311
      @travisrob5311 Před 3 měsíci +1

      How many cards do you have listed?

    • @Jesse31597
      @Jesse31597 Před 3 měsíci

      @@travisrob5311 7000

    • @Jesse31597
      @Jesse31597 Před 3 měsíci

      @@travisrob5311 7000

    • @Jesse31597
      @Jesse31597 Před 3 měsíci

      @@travisrob5311 7000

    • @Jesse31597
      @Jesse31597 Před 3 měsíci

      3 days in and...0 sales, surprise suprise 🤦‍♂️

  • @user-johndep
    @user-johndep Před měsícem

    This is why I quit buying from TCGplayer. I decline to pay 0.15 plus 1.99 shipping for an overvalued 0.08 card.

  • @bigegames2019
    @bigegames2019 Před 3 měsíci

    Not criticism, more open discussion and a random thought bubble. TCG mission statement says they where formed for the player to offload their extras to other players on the el cheapo...it says nothing about being the primary platform for stores to make money and or survive of the slinging singles. Not everyone has the volume to do TCG direct. Nor do they want to do TCG Direct. I wonder what the stats are for individual consumer casual sellers, versus game stores squeezing blood from a rock. If any business operation relies on the thrift market of cards for stability and or sales to cushion their margins, I think there are bigger issues that they may need to address. Also, why can not TCG not implement the same tracked pwe that Ebay did? or make smalls adjustable to quantity. Imagine if they just made it 1.22 per 8 cards, then when someone ordered 50 cards, shipping tracked in a box would be covered. The whole argument for Direct also includes sitting down and pulling a few, to a few thousand a week. RNG just showed his direct pick for a few thousand individual cards. That is more inventory than many casual basement and living room sellers can have. I get the argument from a business perspective, why businesses do not just host singles on their own site and avoid all the fees is silly to. I imagine there are arguments on both sides. My 12 year old son sells on TCG, so yup, your competition is a 12 year old boy, and he sells enough a week to buy a case of pokemon, then rips, sends the hits to be graded, and lists the junk on tcg, and sells the graded on ebay, he just rinse and repeats for two years now. Hopefully he goes to college one day. Have a great day.

  • @FabledAcquisitions
    @FabledAcquisitions Před 3 měsíci

    Let's take it a step further. All uncommons should be no less than 25 cents. All rares lowest at 50 cents. All mythics are no less than a dollar. If I can get in contact with every direct seller and Lgs with a tcg account, we could make changes. No more racing to the bottom. If we rally, we can decide what the bottom is. What say you to that?

    • @Crocodonk
      @Crocodonk Před 3 měsíci +1

      I've wondered about what if TCGp set a floor price for cards like you mentioned, but if that was the case you would have thousands of people selling the same card at the same floor price and the chance of your card selling is like winning a lottery or most likely the only people getting the sales is stores with a vast inventory. This is just my humble opinion.

    • @FabledAcquisitions
      @FabledAcquisitions Před 2 měsíci

      @@Crocodonk I concur, however if the floor price is say 25 cents, I would imagine that you could list it higher and still be competitive with pricing. lol I'm competing with stores as is, I'm just doing at penny's, and it would be nice if we just raised the bottom price to reflect new box prices. I mean is thunder junction coming out as 135$ a box. On top of that if the stores ban together and everyone agrees not to buy sets that are garbage, we could also change how wizards make their products. Imagine just taking a set off. Wizard's can't take a money hit like that. They might have to fire another CEO ;) Id also like to find a way to force Wizards into selling direct and cut out these distributers. I feel like I am making a list to Santa right now lol.

  • @gumpbrave
    @gumpbrave Před 3 měsíci +1

    I loved this

  • @skaternesto
    @skaternesto Před 3 měsíci

    I took the business illiterate comment personally

  • @MDSportsCards
    @MDSportsCards Před 3 měsíci +2

    This is exactly why I am Direct and charge 4.99 shipping. I don’t want any bulk orders, but still get 25-30 weekly. I’d love to be able to just be exclusively Direct, but unfortunately that option isn’t there for whatever reason.

  • @EricDrinksWater
    @EricDrinksWater Před 3 měsíci +1

    Mason is so fking based its crazy.

  • @geekworthy7938
    @geekworthy7938 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Please finish one thought/sentence before starting 6 more. Hard to follow what you are saying.

  • @mikegrant8031
    @mikegrant8031 Před 3 měsíci

    Yall are nuts, there is not enough margin in those little cards to matter. Sit around and use that time to come up with ideas that make money. Working makes you tired, making money makes you rich.

  • @4smo
    @4smo Před 2 měsíci

    If you're selling bulk at .15 w/ 1.99 shipping, then you aren't selling anything. Volume is the name of the game. If you aren't selling at least 20-30 orders a day you won't make it. TCGPlayer simply needs a better shipping model, don't blame the sellers for being competitive because you're contempt with eatting our dust

  • @OMGJESSUS
    @OMGJESSUS Před 3 měsíci +2

    Bruh can’t you just do you and let other people be dumb? Maybe they have a reason to have lower prices. Build feedback, establish a sales history, scaling their business but at the moment they need to take smaller profits for cash flow. This comes across really weird to dump on smaller sellers. Like this is just you complaining how other people do business lowers your margins. If the competition gives a reason to shop with them over you it’s a good reason.

    • @jadl3278
      @jadl3278 Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah weird, free market is free.

    • @CNA-Games
      @CNA-Games  Před 3 měsíci

      I made this in response to the posts I've seen of people complaining that they don't make money selling cards.

  • @ketchemallcards
    @ketchemallcards Před 3 měsíci

    I found bulk stamps on eBay for .31 a piece makes it pretty reasonable.

  • @GoatFarmGames
    @GoatFarmGames Před 3 měsíci

    I've been clowning the people in that page that are posting stacks of 100 cards, that they're selling at TCG Low, which is $0.01 and losing all the money. After educating the first couple, I learned it is not worth my time to keep explaining how a business works, when I can just make my money. I am a lower volume Direct Seller, so it feels good that a person like you is saying what I am thinking. Thanks, Mason. Hope your day goes well!

    • @Crocodonk
      @Crocodonk Před 3 měsíci

      What page are you referring to in "I've been clowning the people in that page that are posting stacks of 100 cards"?

  • @JasonOStirling
    @JasonOStirling Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think you aren’t keeping an open mind that running a shop selling bulk a card at a time as a hobby from home, doesn’t have a loss selling at Pennies for 1.22 shipping. Bulker buyers only give fractions of a penny per card on sale. “What are you doing?” the answer is having a hobby dropping a envelope in the mail casually watching CZcams 😂

  • @superarsenal009
    @superarsenal009 Před 3 měsíci

    You mentioned TCG player takes a cut on the $ amount you sell include the shipping. Pretty obvious why they raised shipping fees.

  • @awllmann363
    @awllmann363 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Shout out to capitalism.

  • @magemarshall3139
    @magemarshall3139 Před 3 měsíci

    We are all competing against each other
    To have that dollar 99 shipping you’re not gonna make the sales
    And I don’t need the requirements for direct anyway
    So even though I appreciate the video and the information your rant does me no good

  • @Tenshuzente
    @Tenshuzente Před 3 měsíci

    If I sell a card for $.01 I make $.06 after everything. I make about $300/month this way and I'll never stop!

  • @johnbarrientes4807
    @johnbarrientes4807 Před 3 měsíci

    I bought/ sold MTG for a while. Granted the profit was to just build a personal collection. Sold on TCG player/ Facebook/ in person.
    - the cringiest thing was buyers always wanted 10-15% off low because that’s what eBay/ tcg player takes.
    Or they want a full play set at x low pricing when there’s only 1 available online. You explain it but just the 1 brain cell just can’t process. Buyers are now used too someone else’s business model as low ball leverage.
    Then you go to buy collections and they want 70% of low…
    I’m sorry my guy my time/ effort/ labor/ ect, is worth more than a 15% margin because of low ball buyers/ low ball sellers.
    Don’t bother trying to explain risk vs reward or the 1 that incurs more risk should have the most gain with labor.
    it all started with sellers giving it away like candy. So now every buyer is spoiled.
    I could go on another 7 jumbled mumbled paragraphs of tiltness on this subject