Purchased this as a gift to my inner child who knows deep inside that he started music thanks to that console, between other things. Thnaks for that tutorial ! game changer !
I've purchased this plugin some month ago, I must admit that in this years, since this plugin come out, I've lost one of the most powerful, best sounding plugins out there. Sounds good on all my material, the compressor is awesome, the parallel compression lets the sounds to bring new life, the eq section and master section are great too. Thanks Waves
This is the best tutorial of any plugin stuff I've seen thus far. The calm and easy pace in the explanation and demoing is great! Thanks! Big help in choosing...
Just bought this, after seeing halfway thru the vid the snare compression effect... If this gives me half the colours the REDD bundle does, it´s a double bargain. Great tools. Love this stuff.
Superb. Time passes by and your videos Mike, as this one, becomes greater and greater. What a video, what a plugin and what a real EMI Mixing Desk TG 12345. Amazing work all of you. Congrats and thank you a lot.
Great demo of this plug Michael. I found the 'eyes' vs 'ears' element when using the TG on the backing vocals really interesting. The eyes tell me that attenuation of 20db+ on the compressor (according to the VU) was excessive but the ears say something else. The overall mix A/B was powerful and gave a great example of how good this plug was in the mix, when used properly and sensitively. I've started using the plug more in my work, and with greater enthusiasm since watching this vid clip. Once again well done mate!!!
treztracks he explains what it can do well but doesn’t do a very well job of demonstrating the extremes when it comes down to mixing the vocal or the drums. We come to these tutorials to sort of trial the plug ins before we spend money on them. The least the can do is show us some serious knob cranks. That’s all I wanna hear. I’m sure that’s all anyone wants to hear is what this thing can do.
the same here, the plug in sound awesome. but i really don´t us it too much due i prefer more surgical tools. just cause i have to lead with a very bad room and as results of the acustics very bad recordings too. in fact i don´t loose too much time trying to mix in my room. a non pro here :-)
Great tutorial, this plug in is amazing, i saw this afternoon a bit of the making of the ultimate Pink Floyd album, they are using a similar console to this one, you don´t need a lot more with a thing like this, you cover practically all what you need to do a great mixing job, except of courses for the especial effects, and mastering. To me it sounds very warm punchy clear and vintage, great work from waves with this, as always they know how to do simulation stuff, thanks to you too for the great tutorial
When soloing the bass I thought that the Dyn-EQ- Pres setting would have been a much better choice. There was too much pumping on the other two settings which really made the low end sound choppy and unnatural. And although the low end may have been too loud with the comp first, that could have easily been eq'd out. Just nit picking, but I find many engineers have a different agenda than bassist do when it comes to mixing the bass. We have the bandwidth and dynamic range now. Use it! Just my two cents.
You're right. I've experimented extensively with those settings, and in most cases, putting the compressor first is indeed the way to go with this plugin (which I totally LUV, by the way). The sidechain-hipass is also a good idea to use.
I'm not a pro but I've been watching demos of plugins for years and I'm damned if I can hear a difference when they compress a kick drum, unless they turn all the controls right up, which they never do.
Just done my first mixe with this plug in, awesome, it can do it all with just gentle tweaks of the knobs, from de-essing, to smoothing, to de-reverb, to color (drive to taste) to add punch (of courses this thing add lot of punch, it can be heard in the vid demo even through laptop speakers :) ), to me the best from Waves until today, i have not tested the Redd console emulation, but with this one i have enough, easy to get hands on quickly, if you have trained ears, still needing a mastering solution i guess, but i have not an adequate room for that, it the first time, that i really have the sensation to be out of the digital world, it can work in conjunction with the Kramer Tape, but this plug in is far lot superior in terms of ¨antidigitalitis¨ slick
Great tutorial! Your example will help me to use this on many of my future mixes. One thing to note, on my Mac system 2009 Mac Pro 5,1 this plugin requires a lot of the cpu. I.d like to use it on every channel but because of this I will be a bit limited. thank you.
Thanks for this Clifton. Great demo of a great plug. The only question I have is around the way the gain reduction meter works. It appears to have a rather mysterious start and end point. Can you clarify that for everyone please?
wow its amazing but im shocked u guys got so much plugins I get lost :S .. I want to start buying some plugins by waves do you have any suggestion for plugins that fit ELECTRONIC DANCE MUSIC As producers such as hardwell etc..
You need a whole pack....if you are starting out and are overwhelmed by all the Waves plugs ins, I would start with fabfilter and get the total pack....once you learn those then move on to Waves and at that point you will have a better understanding of what you need.....really typing a list of good plugins is hard because there are so many out there....You can't go wrong with these two companies though.... also Native Instruments has been making great plugins lately as well...they are known for there instruments however they make top quality effects too......I would suggest getting Native Instruments Komplete 10...it has everything you need and more!
B Dub Thanksss :D !! Yeah I have experimented the Q2 fabfilter .. and also native instruments driver .. !! waves got tones and tones of plugins I will just try to get my hands on some demos .. and identify which ones suitiable for me cause Im not lookin for the vintage staff :D lookin at "loud and hard staff" !!
Anybody know the future of the TG 12413 plugin? I know Softube took over for Abbey Road Brilliance Pack. Any chance they may be developing for the TG 12413 as well? Any word much appreciated.
I really wish we could use better terms to describe things like eq than calling them "open." Particularly when the same adjective is used to describe other aspects of the plug in later. What does that mean? You're doing tutorials for Waves and we can't get some more descriptive vocabulary than "open?" "Smooth" isn't particularly helpful, either although at least it's fairly clear what that means in the context of a compressor.
The amount of aliasing on this thing is absurd. The eq curves are cool though. Crossing my fingers for v2 version. The new ssl strip sounds way better than the original one. This could benefit from the same treatment.
Anyone else cringing as hard as me when hearing the Drive tested on the guitar? especially the low settings sounded terrible. The setting he left it on added a harsh clipping that almost sounded like digital clipping. I guess this is not the Plugin to go to when you want to add just a little Distortion, Saturation. I like the overall sound of the plug. He could have demoed the M/S function, maybe on those backing vocals...
Hi C Dub, The song is in the final stages of mastering and will be released soon. You can contact Cliff directly at trackheadz@gmail.com for the latest information. Thanks for your interest...!
+C Dub Hey C Dub. I'm so sorry I didn't get this message. Thanks for you interest in the song. It can be downloaded at itunes.apple.com/album/id9559... The correct email is trackheadz718@gmail.com Thanks.....
you keep talking about differences that we can't hear. because you are using studio monitors and we are listening to it on tiny home computer monitors fed from a compressed internet signal.
Exposure hard to get and I put a lot into my craft and music videos so y’all might not give a fuck but give me some of ya time and check me out . 🙏🏽 blessings to those that don’t and blessings to those who do . Appreciate y’all in advance
it's very funny to hear again a tutorial with dreadful voice sound. I don't understand how audio professionals permit themselves to publish an "audio tutorial" and don't care about the sound quality itself...
WTF is Hold? Is it gain reduction? Is reducing the "raNGE" of the compression mean less gain reduction? so o Hold could be 30db of GR. And 100 Hold could be 15 gr????? THis makes no sense to me. Also, why doesn't the Gain Reduction needle work right? No one I know can read it. Why even have it? Can anyone explain this compressor with terms I know please?
It puts the comp into action before the signal gets to the threshold level. It puts a fixed voltage onto the VCA of the comp. Once the signal produces a higher control voltatge then that takes over. It's quite an individual circuit. When Hold is at zero the unit actually expands quiet signals up until they produce 1.5V on the VCA control/sidechain.
this guy is obviously a tech guy, but his voice puts me to sleep... in a good way. Not fair - those Bgs are too good, you can hear that these are PRO singers being recorded with great mics and signal chain. Sounds like Vegas to me.
BE WARNED...WAVES CAN CRASH WITH THE NEW OS. THEIR CUSTOMER DISERVICE WILL TELL YOU THAT IT’S NOT THEIR PROBLEM...but I found it it actually is. So I have switched to Fab Filter. Brilliant customer service, cheaper and just as good. And forget Waves synth! Shows their greed to me. A company like WAVES should be enable to make a decent synth at least. Check it out. It’s as miserable as the company. Lying bastards. That’s my subjective opinion of course.
Purchased this as a gift to my inner child who knows deep inside that he started music thanks to that console, between other things. Thnaks for that tutorial ! game changer !
Awesome comment.
Rock on
I've purchased this plugin some month ago, I must admit that in this years, since this plugin come out, I've lost one of the most powerful, best sounding plugins out there. Sounds good on all my material, the compressor is awesome, the parallel compression lets the sounds to bring new life, the eq section and master section are great too. Thanks Waves
Mike is a legend! I hope waves hire him to do all instruction videos and pays him good money! Thanks Mike!
He certainly likes to talk.
@@ER-ec4uq well talking is a big part of sharing information after all…
@@frankybebop2913 more sound examples would be an important (and less smacking) part.
This is the best tutorial of any plugin stuff I've seen thus far. The calm and easy pace in the explanation and demoing is great! Thanks! Big help in choosing...
Just bought this, after seeing halfway thru the vid the snare compression effect... If this gives me half the colours the REDD bundle does, it´s a double bargain. Great tools. Love this stuff.
this plus the nls emi channel must be quite a formidable emi emulation setup
Superb. Time passes by and your videos Mike, as this one, becomes greater and greater. What a video, what a plugin and what a real EMI Mixing Desk TG 12345. Amazing work all of you. Congrats and thank you a lot.
Bought it today and I'm impressed, I cannot compare it to hard unit - but I like what it does, killer plug WAVES
Great demo of this plug Michael. I found the 'eyes' vs 'ears' element when using the TG on the backing vocals really interesting. The eyes tell me that attenuation of 20db+ on the compressor (according to the VU) was excessive but the ears say something else. The overall mix A/B was powerful and gave a great example of how good this plug was in the mix, when used properly and sensitively. I've started using the plug more in my work, and with greater enthusiasm since watching this vid clip. Once again well done mate!!!
Yes yes new tones Michael White always give a great tutorial
treztracks he explains what it can do well but doesn’t do a very well job of demonstrating the extremes when it comes down to mixing the vocal or the drums. We come to these tutorials to sort of trial the plug ins before we spend money on them. The least the can do is show us some serious knob cranks. That’s all I wanna hear. I’m sure that’s all anyone wants to hear is what this thing can do.
Waves makes excellent plugins for mixing and mastering!
This is great detailed demo of the plugin. Learned a lot. Bought it and love it. Well done Michael. Great video.
Thank you for your great demo. I bought it sometime ago and I have not used it yet, now I have a great guide!
the same here, the plug in sound awesome. but i really don´t us it too much due i prefer more surgical tools. just cause i have to lead with a very bad room and as results of the acustics very bad recordings too. in fact i don´t loose too much time trying to mix in my room. a non pro here :-)
Great tutorial, this plug in is amazing, i saw this afternoon a bit of the making of the ultimate Pink Floyd album, they are using a similar console to this one, you don´t need a lot more with a thing like this, you cover practically all what you need to do a great mixing job, except of courses for the especial effects, and mastering. To me it sounds very warm punchy clear and vintage, great work from waves with this, as always they know how to do simulation stuff, thanks to you too for the great tutorial
Thank you Michael for the excellent video tutorial, and of course thank you for the Waves Team :)
Excellent tutorial - this channel strip is definitely a different beast
When soloing the bass I thought that the Dyn-EQ- Pres setting would have been a much better choice. There was too much pumping on the other two settings which really made the low end sound choppy and unnatural. And although the low end may have been too loud with the comp first, that could have easily been eq'd out. Just nit picking, but I find many engineers have a different agenda than bassist do when it comes to mixing the bass. We have the bandwidth and dynamic range now. Use it! Just my two cents.
You're right. I've experimented extensively with those settings, and in most cases, putting the compressor first is indeed the way to go with this plugin (which I totally LUV, by the way).
The sidechain-hipass is also a good idea to use.
At least the overview explanation is very useful. Thank you for this video.
I was extremely confused with the compression section thanks for explaining!
This thing sounds soooo damn good
I'm not a pro but I've been watching demos of plugins for years and I'm damned if I can hear a difference when they compress a kick drum, unless they turn all the controls right up, which they never do.
+Claymor It is a good demo though :-)
Excellent instruction on this plugin.
Just done my first mixe with this plug in, awesome, it can do it all with just gentle tweaks of the knobs, from de-essing, to smoothing, to de-reverb, to color (drive to taste) to add punch (of courses this thing add lot of punch, it can be heard in the vid demo even through laptop speakers :) ), to me the best from Waves until today, i have not tested the Redd console emulation, but with this one i have enough, easy to get hands on quickly, if you have trained ears, still needing a mastering solution i guess, but i have not an adequate room for that, it the first time, that i really have the sensation to be out of the digital world, it can work in conjunction with the Kramer Tape, but this plug in is far lot superior in terms of ¨antidigitalitis¨ slick
great video and music and plugin wow learned a lot thank you
Excellent walk-through/demo - Thanks!
Great tutorial! Your example will help me to use this on many of my future mixes. One thing to note, on my Mac system 2009 Mac Pro 5,1 this plugin requires a lot of the cpu. I.d like to use it on every channel but because of this I will be a bit limited. thank you.
Still love this plug on drums!
Doing a mix with it soon. i have the old version of the units.
Excellent tutorial.
Many thanks.
Merci pour ce très bon tuto !
Thumbs up soon as I heard the intro music....
The transistorized console used on Abbey Road was step down. It's brittle and grainy sounding.
I was thinking a similar thought but what about "Something" or "I Want You" ?
Great presentation. Trev
Best tutorial for eq !!! Do the same With Api collection
thanks a lot for the tutorial it was excellent
How the hell did you get so little hi hat bleed in the snare mic?
(I'm only guessing) he could be using a noise-suppressor type of plugin.
Use the mic directional patern wisely. Point the null at the hi hat.
Nice song!
fantastic video thankyou
When will Waves do something like the Console 1 for Waves Channelstrips??? The Omni-Channel and everything else? You need to do it, please!!
great tutorial . thanks
a great tutorial thanks!
Nice mix..
Hi I love this demo but can you tell me how you know your boosting the treble at 5k.... 22:10..on the vid..Thanks
Thanks for this Clifton. Great demo of a great plug. The only question I have is around the way the gain reduction meter works. It appears to have a rather mysterious start and end point. Can you clarify that for everyone please?
same question here! i am a bit confused by the meter ...
Powerful!!
i think it would help telling whats the problem with the original sound first and what is missing
Just bought this! Amazing sounding plugin. question - Are the drums real or sampler? If sampler what was it?
Thanks.
wow its amazing but im shocked u guys got so much plugins I get lost :S ..
I want to start buying some plugins by waves do you have any suggestion for plugins that fit ELECTRONIC DANCE MUSIC As producers such as hardwell etc..
the waves emp bundles are awesome for everything, especially for edm
***** I agree Waves & Fabfilter
yeah guys but can u name packs :P ? like I know fabfilter awesome but waves got tons of plugs so .. what to buy .. what plugins will be suitiable :P ?
You need a whole pack....if you are starting out and are overwhelmed by all the Waves plugs ins, I would start with fabfilter and get the total pack....once you learn those then move on to Waves and at that point you will have a better understanding of what you need.....really typing a list of good plugins is hard because there are so many out there....You can't go wrong with these two companies though.... also Native Instruments has been making great plugins lately as well...they are known for there instruments however they make top quality effects too......I would suggest getting Native Instruments Komplete 10...it has everything you need and more!
B Dub Thanksss :D !! Yeah I have experimented the Q2 fabfilter .. and also native instruments driver .. !! waves got tones and tones of plugins I will just try to get my hands on some demos .. and identify which ones suitiable for me cause Im not lookin for the vintage staff :D lookin at "loud and hard staff" !!
I'm wondering, do you ever carve out the boomy room sound on the kick?
How do you call up, or open, that Memory Location Window that you have open above Aux 1 and Aux 2?
Anybody know the future of the TG 12413 plugin? I know Softube took over for Abbey Road Brilliance Pack. Any chance they may be developing for the TG 12413 as well? Any word much appreciated.
What is a phase inversion switch? Some sort of cloaking feature? Perhaps he meant polarity inversion…
To invert the phase/polarity is the same thing hence just naming it one thing on the plugin.
Sounds like Jazzanova.
I'm using (Acoustica) Mixcraft 6 but it's not listed as a supported host?
DamageIncM thanks D.......
Please bypass toggle when showing examples!!
I really wish we could use better terms to describe things like eq than calling them "open." Particularly when the same adjective is used to describe other aspects of the plug in later. What does that mean? You're doing tutorials for Waves and we can't get some more descriptive vocabulary than "open?" "Smooth" isn't particularly helpful, either although at least it's fairly clear what that means in the context of a compressor.
The amount of aliasing on this thing is absurd. The eq curves are cool though. Crossing my fingers for v2 version. The new ssl strip sounds way better than the original one. This could benefit from the same treatment.
When you demo waves does it say demo?
Anyone else cringing as hard as me when hearing the Drive tested on the guitar? especially the low settings sounded terrible. The setting he left it on added a harsh clipping that almost sounded like digital clipping. I guess this is not the Plugin to go to when you want to add just a little Distortion, Saturation.
I like the overall sound of the plug. He could have demoed the M/S function, maybe on those backing vocals...
Is there a link to go buy this song?
Hi, the song is called Power of Love, written and produced by Clifton Hicks.
Waves Audio Do you have a link? I can't seem to find it in order to purchase it.
Hi C Dub, The song is in the final stages of mastering and will be released soon. You can contact Cliff directly at trackheadz@gmail.com for the latest information. Thanks for your interest...!
+C Dub Hey C Dub. I'm so sorry I didn't get this message. Thanks for you interest in the song. It can be downloaded at itunes.apple.com/album/id9559... The correct email is trackheadz718@gmail.com Thanks.....
+C Dub backvocals ?
you keep talking about differences that we can't hear. because you are using studio monitors and we are listening to it on tiny home computer monitors fed from a compressed internet signal.
Slarti Bartfast what do you expect him to do? Talk about what YOU are hearing?!? It’s not his fault you’re listening on tiny computer speakers.
Michael Hattem lmao
do pros use this thing lol just wondering
pros have a v high tendency to use waves plugins in general so i'm gonna say most likely
I'm glad that the beatles never sounded that way, it's far too much bass sound for my ears.
for a video about mixing quality, the dry mouth smacking comes along surprisingly hefty.
i hope this doesn’t represent the product quality…
Exposure hard to get and I put a lot into my craft and music videos so y’all might not give a fuck but give me some of ya time and check me out . 🙏🏽 blessings to those that don’t and blessings to those who do . Appreciate y’all in advance
it's very funny to hear again a tutorial with dreadful voice sound. I don't understand how audio professionals permit themselves to publish an "audio tutorial" and don't care about the sound quality itself...
WTF is Hold? Is it gain reduction? Is reducing the "raNGE" of the compression mean less gain reduction? so o Hold could be 30db of GR. And 100 Hold could be 15 gr????? THis makes no sense to me. Also, why doesn't the Gain Reduction needle work right? No one I know can read it. Why even have it? Can anyone explain this compressor with terms I know please?
MonstarMk3 Perhaps you can tune in more from 4:30 onward ...he's describing the functionality of the compressor/compression! 💡
Hymn
It puts the comp into action before the signal gets to the threshold level. It puts a fixed voltage onto the VCA of the comp. Once the signal produces a higher control voltatge then that takes over. It's quite an individual circuit. When Hold is at zero the unit actually expands quiet signals up until they produce 1.5V on the VCA control/sidechain.
I like no compression
Radio music is comp.
I tunes is also sounds like crap. Are you the man that takes a band. Then adds in the BRIGHT sound. ??
this guy is obviously a tech guy, but his voice puts me to sleep... in a good way. Not fair - those Bgs are too good, you can hear that these are PRO singers being recorded with great mics and signal chain. Sounds like Vegas to me.
Great sounding plugin. Awful presenter. He has no idea of what he's doing or saying.
BE WARNED...WAVES CAN CRASH WITH THE NEW OS. THEIR CUSTOMER DISERVICE WILL TELL YOU THAT IT’S NOT THEIR PROBLEM...but I found it it actually is.
So I have switched to Fab Filter. Brilliant customer service, cheaper and just as good. And forget Waves synth! Shows their greed to me. A company like WAVES should be enable to make a decent synth at least. Check it out. It’s as miserable as the company.
Lying bastards. That’s my subjective opinion of course.
I want to hear the plugin working and not some bloody guy talking and talking !!
Leo j
Plug sounds good but what the hell is up with your (narration) microphone? sounds all kinds of "inverted", it hurts my ears!
Oh thanks for this post, because I thought that it's only me. Yeah, his voice sound is terrible