I was with MACV and we did a number of things well outside any standard military procedure. We put a 50 Cal on a M 151, made the jeep jump when firing, and if you fired off the side, tipped it over. We "found" a minigun, and mounted it in APC, with the thinking when enemy contact was make, the track would pivot 180 and rain down holy hell. We took it out to a gun range to try it out. We forgot about dealing with 5000+ a minute HOT brass. After about a 10 second burst the gunner came shooting up through the top with burns all over him. We tried!!!
Thanks for the info. By Brother was in the attack in 1967. Just jumped from his truck when it blew. Was pulling out at the end of his tour with the 11th ACR and took a grenade blast (KIA 4/17/67) that saved three fellow soldiers (one later died of his wounds).
In fairness, extemporized fighting vehicles are often modified in ways beyond the obvious. So I interpret it as him saying that while the bed areas of the trucks were modified, the engines, drive trains, and chassis remained factory.
@@nathanjones6638 Nah, he's obviously describing the gun truck to his interviewer without any visual aid, we're not watching a video like they are so you can't really blame him for stating something that's obvious to viewers. Also the word "cargo" truck makes you think of flat-bed trucks with those cloth fabric roofs, very different to the kinds of images "gun truck" elicits
American ingenuity has always been our greatest asset. I think it was a German officer during WW2 that complained about how American soldiers didn't follow the U.S. Field manual.
It isn't stealing if it gets lost during repairs. Also you would be surprised what gets lost during gorilla warfare. Logistics are a nightmare during a normal one.
Iv seen pictures of depos in nam where they'd have wrecked choppers laying around outside of repair buildings to use for spare parts so id assume you would just wait for a fresh wreck and "barrow" the mounted gun after dark
@@suddendeath2285 yup seems chinooks will bring wrecked helos and drop them into the tarmac it would make sense for them to come deliver theirs plane-fuel at an airforce base and come back with scavanged miniguns.. also could you provide a link for thoses pics of depos in vietnam?
I just met a Vietnam veteran At the grocery store today and he was actually one of the gun truck drivers. I was born in 1962 so I missed the Vietnam war. God bless our veterans who have fought in these foreign wars and God bless all the souls that we have lost fighting these foreign conflicts.
@@kshitijghormade584 north Vietnam was communist, the politicians do not like communism. So we shot our own boat and said it was them. The next thing you know we are there.
I was in Phu Tai and saw those things roll down the hiway. They were beautiful. They would roll through the An Khe pass on their way down to Qui Nhon. I never saw one with a mini gun, but those that had 50 calibers were formidable. And they all had multiple mounted machine guns. To me, they were a thing of beauty.
my TC was the scrounger. i remember raiding old tank graveyards on downtime during maneuvers, for m60 lug nuts in germany that were for some reason hard to come by at the time. he said he never stole anything. as long as a soldier is using it, it's where it's supposed to be. 19e
True, but in Vietnam they had the new challenge of having to drive convoys straight through enemy territory with both sides exposed. That was new, not having been seen in Korea or WW2
Because WW2 and Korea were in a sense "traditional" wars. We took territory and it was ours. Then the supply trucks could move through in relative safety. In Vietnam, when we took an area, the VC would sneak back in. There was very little "friendly territory" in Vietnam.
Naive TV presentation. Since the start of war, enemy logistics has been a primary target. Nothing to do with traditional, conventional, asymmetrical, insurgency etc. If you can hit logistics its a soft target. OTOH, these guys probably killed a lot of civvies as they were spraying their gunfire everywhere they went. Looks like little has changed.
Do your homework or talk to a vet? That’s a joke. Of course supply lines are targets, the challenge of getting them through enemy territory was new. Guerrilla warfare tends to work that way
My brother in law told me about them getting WW II Navy 20 mm anti aircraft guns and mounted it in an armored truck. The rest of the bed would be filled with ammo. They would aim it at the base of a tree then weed whack the line of trees.
joel reed those were keep at base , heck our army still have stockpile of m42 duster in storage , it don't do shit to plane now day , but more then enough to wack soldier , heck those m42 with it dual 40mm will be heavly demand in city fight , it gun can aim at high level building while tank and apc gun cant
@@inouelenhatduy Nah, it'd be pretty bad in urban environments. It's open topped, anyone could throw a molotov into the fighting compartment from the ground or from a rooftop. And it's a SPA, self propelled anti-air, with buildings blocking your view constantly, how they gonna cover they're boys.
My PS(we were engineers) scrounged a 5/4 ton truck, a turret from an M113, and a minigun. Scrounging was acquiring by any means necessary. He put the whole thing together with what must have been 10,000 rounds. It only got used once but it paid for itself that one night. I did a lot of scrounging when I was an LT. Mostly, I traded for things. I did favors for many people so, they were willing to do favors for me. I learned from my father who was in WWII. He did a lot of scrounging too.
Back in the days of my youth I was in the reserves, we were on a range fire weekend playing with all the toys... The M60 range targets consisted on 2' - 3' thick trees with corrugated iron wrapped around them. We cut down about 6 trees that weekend, M60 will get that job done, it takes a bit longer. :)
And there was a remake of this in Iraq, gi's welding extra armor and guns to humvees. Give a bunch of American kids some vehicles and a workshop and they will do magic.
I believe that one thing us Yanks do better than the Brits, the Japanese, The Chinese, and whoever else, is improvising. Taking something and making it better. We aren’t very great at coming up with original ideas, but dammit, we can certainly make it work with a 2x4, some string, and a pack of gum!
It’ll be a fresh from West Point butter bar PL getting shagged by the 3X divorced e7 platoon daddy who’s mad because his daughter is sleeping with the 1SG. All while the new guy in the unit is fresh from UCLA with his HR degree and the CO is pissed because he was supposed to stay stateside vs a deployment thus letting his unit run crazy and waste fools and cover ups the TIC.
Was there in 68-70 and 72-74 not as a GI but as a contractor fixing helicopters. Primarily with the 25th division (CuChi). They had M-60 tanks and M113 APCs riding herd on their convoys from Saigon and then out to other bases in III corp. I also saw some gun trucks but not with mini-guns. If you do a search for gun truck on the internet there are a couple sites that have lots of info. And for those that say that we got out of Vietnam in 72 that is true, most of the combat troops were gone, but the Air Force gave the VNAF 2 squadrons of C-130A transports and us contractors were their to train the VNAF. Not that they couldn't work on airplanes, but they had trouble reading the manuals.
Logistics lines (along with command centers) were always the primary target during a war. A tank or an airplane is dead without fuel. That's why the Germans attacked the convoys during WWII and the rail lines and bridges was a constant target by the allies. Attacking supply lines is a legitimate war target
"The M2: caliber: 13MM" Nahh get out of here with that, it's a 12.7, I know its close enough, but .3 of a millimeter is alot when talking about ammunition
The US machine guns were "50 caliber" or .5 inch so if 1 inch = 25.4 mm then it was 12.7 mm. And 30 caliber, "rifle ammunition" was 7.62 mm. Not only was the bullet volume a proportional to radius squared (50 was 2x size of 30) but 50 had higher muzzle velocity (bullet power = mass times velocity squared) and (at least anti-aircraft) used high explosive rounds.
@@valsgardegaming68 they place .50s on vehicles all the time, I think it was more of lacking dedicated defense vehicles during Vietnam and the army not willing to officially support these gun trucks
My grandpa was a marine aircraft mechanic in Vietnam and told me a few times about how he and some friends took a bunch of 20mm cannons off of decommissioned aircraft and showed the army how to mount them onto trucks and APCs. Probably related?
Too bad it's wasted on figuring out how to kill people. Not to mention for a war that was built on a lie against a people who originally respected and reveered the US Constitution.
I was stationed in Cha Rang Valley 1970 -'71... one of the Trans. Companies was about a 1/4 mile down the road from our compound.. used to see their gun trucks several times each week... simply awesome!!!!
In a pointless war, killing young American men who would otherwise be productive members of our society. So yes, honor the soldiers, and spit on the politicians.
@@jackdrummond3891 honour to those who fought against the war, were locked up for their resistance and ultimately ended the war. I do not say dishonour to those who joined thinking it was a worthy cause, but we hardly call enough attention to those who helped end it and applaud them.
@Josh M and why did south Vietnamese women shoved their babies over the embassy walls during the fall of Saigon. Why they hung off the skids of helicopters. Why the risked their lives crossing the ocean to get to America. I am not saying the US and Aussie soldiers did not Bad things to South Vietamese civilians but the murder of millions was committed by the North Vietnamese and the Chinese during the war and later when they won. Unfortunately the writers of US history were hippie war protestor who never stepped foot in Asia.
I just love how the troops in Vietnam knew how to have fun even when things go slightly bad Just the military in general of the modern era of war (1900-present day)
Its funny you say that. I buddy of mine told me a story like that: they had engineers offer a piece of gear to the army. The army made the engineers dress in full MOPP 4 NBC gear before disassembling and reassembling it; the tech guys ended up fumbling around and had a hard time because the screws (and the screwdrivers that were used on them) and what not were of a normal (read as small) size and consequently almost impossible to work with while wearing the heavy NBC gloves. The engineers went back and modified the product.
lol nope , we win the War , why would we care to dislike a video , that why American still amaze how we Vietnam can move on so fast vs them lol , could we didn't lost so we didn't give shit about a war that we won , war with you guy is a small dot on our long war history , America and Vietnam in cold war cause have been partner too bad you guy chose French loser to recolonize us , ho chi minh was communist sure , but he was nationalist first and he allway wanted to partner with America and stay neutral in cold war , he and all Vietnamese know real enemy will allway be the Chinese not the westerner , that why stalin didn't trust and support ho chi minh in the late 40-50s , heck Vietminh and ho chi minh was train and equip by OSS *CIA* in ww2 lol , during our independence speech you could see Vietnamese and American flag fly side by side not soviet or Chinese flag , it was American plane p38 that do flyby and doing aerobatic not soviet or Chinese plane . the French basicly pushing Vietnam into the arms of soviet and china , while Vietnam wanted to be like Yugoslavia partner of both side and stay neutral and live our life
people are idiots!!! the big fish let the small fish fight wars at the other side of the globe and suffer so that the big fish can make a profit and stay cosy at home eating caviar and drink champagne. is that something to be proud of???
Traveled in a lot of those convoys to Ah Khe., and back. The serials ahead of our serial, or behind got hit at times, but somehow never the serial I was in. Took a lot of pictures of those gun trucks, still have them too. Interesting times you could say.
I was, at times, a gun truck machinegunner using both M60 and M1 BMG. Our truck was 5 ton with an APC shell mounted to the bed. We escorted fuel and ammo convoys out of Camranh Bay from the coast to and beyond the Cambodian border. We were hit hard and often, one of the worst places was Duc Lap with many snipers. Lost a few friends there. This video keyed my PTSD...time to end this.
What we really need is for a company that isnt Russian to operate warthunder. Their notion that they can make a game simply to beat up Germans with fake Russian military tech is absurd.
@@zachhaus8488 Ya it is but is also stupid fun. There is tanks that are almost immune though. You have to know the exact spots that u can pen. A single machine round can take u out or incapacitate you. I just dont fight B2s from the or sides unless im point blank.
Its about time they talked about this👍 I was a gunner in the Iraq war... Not enough has been talked about this. My Humvee was my home for the longest time...
We have a joke in my country. It translates to something like: There is that dude on a flight to Chicago, sitting on a plane scared shitless and guy sitting next to him notices and asks him why he is so scared? "Well you know i heard stories about chicago, how it is dangerous to live there and stuff and now Im moving there for work" "On don't worry, I live in Chicago for 25 years and its not that bad. You will buy a house in one of the safe neighborhoods, kids will go to save school and all will be cool, you just see" "Well and what do you do for living?" "I'm second backgunner on brewery truck"
@Knight-Sgt. Reyes Nah I'd still prefer tunnel rat. What bring you more pain? A VC stabbing/shooting you point blank range in the tunnel? Or endure 50 seconds with your body covered in flames, feeling every inch of your nerves in agonizing pain?. Tunnel rat is less scary.
My buddy served 2 tours in 'Nam and told me his platoon couldn't get armed escort for their convoys because they were already better armed than the escort. They had "acquired" a couple of 5 inch Naval Guns for their trucks.
I was a m60 machinegunner in Quang tri Vietnam in1970 .We escorted hundreds of JP4 fuel trucks. The name of our truck was the Dirty Bitch. Would like to have a copy of the book.
My buddy flying cobras got sick of taking fire from the rear. He got some tuning and welded a machine gun and created the first rear firing cobra. It was very lethal
now do a follow up vid of the GUN TRUCKS used in IRAQ... My crew had to demil 90% of them.. Welds looked like peanut butter and only blood and sand held them all together.
Gov't should listen to the troops in war. Afterall, they are the ones actually working. If they need gun trucks or special guns - soldiers should NOT have to make them themselves, steal or borrow. The military gets plenty of money to make this happen.
@@yoshcarrillo2511 nobody broke the geneva Rules doing thoses upgrades not even by using miniguns,it's just pencil pushers and officers who never went outside the base (except for using hookers)
Pretty sure those mini-guns would've better served on helicopters headed for actual hot zones. Lots of door gunners had to make do with M60s, wonder where the mini-guns went?
Ammo runs from Chi Chi to ammo dumps 1966-67. A battery 13th. artillery- ammo humper. Driver and shotgun with an m79. “Road Runners”.74 years old but remember it like yesterday. Welcome back to all !
@@TheHigherVoltage Dabbing is this stupid arm gesture what young millenials made and Fortnite dancing is obviously a canceros dance moves from a cancerous video game
We started out with crap ones in Iraq; Humvees overloaded with extra "hillbilly" armor. There were some 5-tons too, I was in the trail vehicle 5-ton with the .50-cal for a lot of runs through the Sunni Triangle. Later we got up-armored stuff that was factory made but still basically a Humvee, then whole new vehicles were built-- the MRAPs. Crazy, weird times.
Very much a reinvention of the wheel here. Those retrofitted vehicles are mimics of the WWII era German Mechanized Infantry transports like the Sonderkraftfahrzeug 251 just without the half-track. Its baffling how the U.S. Army could be so inflexible in Vietnam. The Army seemingly refused to revert any equipment or tactics back if the new stuff was less effective. Hell it even seems like WWI generals were even more flexible and those guys initially sent Calvary against machine gun nests.
The U.S. top brass in the '50s and '60s were very stupid people. There are books and lectures on how bad it was. This is probably why the grunt on the ground was given so much power such as a private ordering an officer to attack something from the air or by artillery.
I like all these vets whith smiles on their faces remembering the minigun
LMMFAO!
Can't really blame them xD
The mini gun and the ride home were about the only good things about the war!
I was with MACV and we did a number of things well outside any standard military procedure. We put a 50 Cal on a M 151, made the jeep jump when firing, and if you fired off the side, tipped it over. We "found" a minigun, and mounted it in APC, with the thinking when enemy contact was make, the track would pivot 180 and rain down holy hell. We took it out to a gun range to try it out. We forgot about dealing with 5000+ a minute HOT brass. After about a 10 second burst the gunner came shooting up through the top with burns all over him. We tried!!!
giggity
2:56 "50 Caliber, that's an awesome weapon. DUDUDUDU!! But the minigun... *alien sounds*"
Hahahaha
NAH
I've seen them both in action and do not want to be on the receiving end of either!
A-10 pilot: "You call that firepower?"
More like brrrt
"Not built by the government, but by 18 and 19 year old kids trying to stay alive." [Sic]
Man, I felt that.
Nothing has changed since then! In Iraq it was the soldiers who kept upgrading the armor of the vehicles to stay alive against IEDs and EFPs.
@@southsidediggers6905 d drew
The last of the surviving gun trucks the Eve of destruction is on display the army transportation museum fort Lee Virginia.
Very true, i spoke with the CPT of the sister truck of EOD, pretty cool
Thanks for the info. By Brother was in the attack in 1967. Just jumped from his truck when it blew. Was pulling out at the end of his tour with the 11th ACR and took a grenade blast (KIA 4/17/67) that saved three fellow soldiers (one later died of his wounds).
@@williamcollins2232 I'm sorry for your loss.
Fort Leonardwood has one, it took a me years to figure out what they did. They threw a hull of a 113 on the back of the truck. Couple M60 and .50cals
@@williamcollins2232 Your brother was a man of honor, He's resting peacefully.
"I see a green truck and I want it painted black"
Then you get seen and blown up
That’s the point! Make them stand out to draw fire on the gun trucks rather than the supply trucks
apearently nobody understand that Leo Krupp made a pun about the lyrics from the music paint it black
I see the Cong walk by dressed in their pajamas. I have to swing around and let my 50s roar.
@@Bart-Did-it not necessarily in the chronological order either lol
Eurotruck simulator, Vietnam '69 DLC
We neeed this
It’d be in American truck sim
Kevin Yang cringe
@@xxlookalive239x3 go back to 2014 with that cringeass name
Only 9.99$
Random soldiers going rogue on their trucks
The army: eh
meh -_-
Necessity is the mother of invention, and there's nothing wrong with Ingenuity in the face of adversity.
@@davidpayne3146 well spoken
That’s normal 😂
Kinda the American doctrine. Following the rule book keeps you out of trouble. Breaking it to solve a problem. Gets you a promotion
vietcong: hey let's target the drivers and convoy's
americans: rewind time
Uno reverse card
*This... is Requiem.*
I, an American soldier, have a dream.
Ah Ha Ha
Gun Truck: "Replies in .50 cal"
Talks about M60s
Shows 240
Close enough right?
and at 1:40 they say it fires 300 rounds per minute , they might wanna hire a fact checker
what do u mean weren't those m60s
I thought I was the only one who would notice
"13mm" 😑
I was just thinking about that
2:18 "With an M2 50 caliber machine we'd simply cut the tree down" that's the funniest and most bad ass thing i've heard
Not funny if you’re the guy hiding behind that tree.
It's a remote chainsaw
Long range chainsaw
Its not stealing. They " tactically acquired" those parts 😂
"Requisitioned."
actually somebody did comment that they did steal(Strategic Transport of Equipment to Alternate Location) it
Re-Allocated
“There’s only one thief in the Army, I’m just trying to get my stuff back,”
It's not stealing if there's no eyewitness, it's called lost item
US soldiers: Fine I’ll do it myself
"There kicken peoples asses and they ain't even taken names"
- BBBRRRTTTTT......"what do you think his name was?"...."Ground-meat"
Haha that guy was the commander of my first unit.
@its me its not a test. Im sure you got the point. Oh sorry, Its not a test.
What?
Yanks
"Da main difference between cargo trucks and gun trucks are the gun boxes"
*ya don't say*
In fairness, extemporized fighting vehicles are often modified in ways beyond the obvious. So I interpret it as him saying that while the bed areas of the trucks were modified, the engines, drive trains, and chassis remained factory.
@@nathanjones6638 It's just that it's so blatant and obvious, it basically didn't even need saying ahha
@@CHEESYHEAD684 hm. Ironic humor, then?
@@nathanjones6638 Nah, he's obviously describing the gun truck to his interviewer without any visual aid, we're not watching a video like they are so you can't really blame him for stating something that's obvious to viewers. Also the word "cargo" truck makes you think of flat-bed trucks with those cloth fabric roofs, very different to the kinds of images "gun truck" elicits
American ingenuity has always been our greatest asset. I think it was a German officer during WW2 that complained about how American soldiers didn't follow the U.S. Field manual.
Imagine a private walking up to his leader ship and being like "Aye SGT, I got an idea but we gonna need to acquire some miniguns"
AA guns more like
@@GhostOfDamned next, you're gonna say we get a toyota hilux
@@amistrophy land rover
2:56 haha nails the sound
Brrrrrrtt.
Wait that's the a-10 warthog sound. Still though, very close
@@ChromeTecNina Its pretty much the same thing
Charlie Digital I thought a-10s we’re armed with mini guns?
@@fishyfishy3140 M61, GAU 8 and Minigun are from the same family of GE weapons
Kachunka-chunka-chunka-chunka
Okay one question, how exactly do you you find yourself in a position where you could just steal a minigun???
Exactly. This thing must have been expensive as hell back in 1967. No way they have them just lying around LOL
It isn't stealing if it gets lost during repairs. Also you would be surprised what gets lost during gorilla warfare. Logistics are a nightmare during a normal one.
Iv seen pictures of depos in nam where they'd have wrecked choppers laying around outside of repair buildings to use for spare parts so id assume you would just wait for a fresh wreck and "barrow" the mounted gun after dark
@@suddendeath2285 yup seems chinooks will bring wrecked helos and drop them into the tarmac it would make sense for them to come deliver theirs plane-fuel at an airforce base and come back with scavanged miniguns..
also could you provide a link for thoses pics of depos in vietnam?
Vietnam was a very lax war
I just met a Vietnam veteran At the grocery store today and he was actually one of the gun truck drivers. I was born in 1962 so I missed the Vietnam war. God bless our veterans who have fought in these foreign wars and God bless all the souls that we have lost fighting these foreign conflicts.
Why was the US involved in the Vietnam war ?
And God save us from ourselves.
@@kshitijghormade584 north Vietnam was communist, the politicians do not like communism. So we shot our own boat and said it was them. The next thing you know we are there.
I was in Phu Tai and saw those things roll down the hiway. They were beautiful. They would roll through the An Khe pass on their way down to Qui Nhon. I never saw one with a mini gun, but those that had 50 calibers were formidable. And they all had multiple mounted machine guns. To me, they were a thing of beauty.
Richard--! I was in phuTai valley and had 2 quad .50'sin my company--the Nancy and the Bounty Hunter--awesome weapons!
AMEN BROTHER 🙏
@@billpohlman803 I remember the Bounty Hunter. Beautiful truck.
It's impossible to 'steal US Army property if it never leaves possession of the US Army ...*wink. 19d
Found on Instillation...
Re-aproperate,
Cause you can not steal what is already yours.....
As a U.S. citizen, government property is my property.....
Of course I am a MARINE !
@@knutdergroe9757 *reappropriate
my TC was the scrounger. i remember raiding old tank graveyards on downtime during maneuvers, for m60 lug nuts in germany that were for some reason hard to come by at the time. he said he never stole anything. as long as a soldier is using it, it's where it's supposed to be. 19e
tactically acquire and redistribute
0:48 "war has changed", Sun Tzu talked about disabling logistics 400 years BC.
never thought sun tzu ran around with a gun truck with a bunch of guerillas shooting at him, the more you know
@@dreams6864 wooooosh
"War... war never changes"
Its been known ever since man started fighting each other that starving one's enemy is almost more effective than fighting them.
@@mlg_teletubby9391 Lol you beat me to it.
Vietcong: *destroys supply truck*
America: Ho, so you're trying to steal our oil hm???
Oh no
Only usa people can steel oil
/\ /\ /\This is so sad they stole his ability to spell😭🤮😤😤😭
Child slaves in need of liberation US: I sleep
People touch oil anywhere in earth US: MAD MAX TIME
*Vietcong tries to take oil* Americans: MYYYY Preecccious
Introduced the M60
Then shows a quick clip what seems to be a M240
It’s not a 240 but you’re right it’s not an m60 either
gaming stoner?
It looks like the FN MAG
Looks like an M240
If not what is it? 🤔
Supply trucks are always legitimate military targets. I'm surprised why the narrator is surprised that this "changed the nature of the war".
True, but in Vietnam they had the new challenge of having to drive convoys straight through enemy territory with both sides exposed. That was new, not having been seen in Korea or WW2
Because WW2 and Korea were in a sense "traditional" wars. We took territory and it was ours. Then the supply trucks could move through in relative safety. In Vietnam, when we took an area, the VC would sneak back in. There was very little "friendly territory" in Vietnam.
Naive TV presentation.
Since the start of war, enemy logistics has been a primary target.
Nothing to do with traditional, conventional, asymmetrical, insurgency etc.
If you can hit logistics its a soft target.
OTOH, these guys probably killed a lot of civvies as they were spraying their gunfire everywhere they went. Looks like little has changed.
My thoughts exactly. Supply lines have always been a target.
Do your homework or talk to a vet? That’s a joke. Of course supply lines are targets, the challenge of getting them through enemy territory was new. Guerrilla warfare tends to work that way
My brother in law told me about them getting WW II Navy 20 mm anti aircraft guns and mounted it in an armored truck. The rest of the bed would be filled with ammo. They would aim it at the base of a tree then weed whack the line of trees.
joel reed those were keep at base , heck our army still have stockpile of m42 duster in storage , it don't do shit to plane now day , but more then enough to wack soldier , heck those m42 with it dual 40mm will be heavly demand in city fight , it gun can aim at high level building while tank and apc gun cant
A vet told me the same thing.
god i love to see that on a APC today
@@inouelenhatduy they can also aim low into the basements the Russians learned that
@@inouelenhatduy Nah, it'd be pretty bad in urban environments. It's open topped, anyone could throw a molotov into the fighting compartment from the ground or from a rooftop. And it's a SPA, self propelled anti-air, with buildings blocking your view constantly, how they gonna cover they're boys.
“Supplies delivered! Please Check and sign!”
“Where’s all the ammo?”
“You see, we just got ourselves a mini gun....”
My PS(we were engineers) scrounged a 5/4 ton truck, a turret from an M113, and a minigun. Scrounging was acquiring by any means necessary. He put the whole thing together with what must have been 10,000 rounds. It only got used once but it paid for itself that one night.
I did a lot of scrounging when I was an LT. Mostly, I traded for things. I did favors for many people so, they were willing to do favors for me. I learned from my father who was in WWII. He did a lot of scrounging too.
M60-peppers tree, M2-cuts tree down, Mini gun-atomizes tree.
that's... pretty accurate actually.
Back in the days of my youth I was in the reserves, we were on a range fire weekend playing with all the toys... The M60 range targets consisted on 2' - 3' thick trees with corrugated iron wrapped around them. We cut down about 6 trees that weekend, M60 will get that job done, it takes a bit longer. :)
And there was a remake of this in Iraq, gi's welding extra armor and guns to humvees.
Give a bunch of American kids some vehicles and a workshop and they will do magic.
Yup. We had to do that back in 04, before rolling out from Kuwait to Baghdad
@@crazyeyez1502 we used chain link fence and chicken wire in an around Kabul
I believe that one thing us Yanks do better than the Brits, the Japanese, The Chinese, and whoever else, is improvising. Taking something and making it better. We aren’t very great at coming up with original ideas, but dammit, we can certainly make it work with a 2x4, some string, and a pack of gum!
Sean O'Brien basically you’re saying the tools provided were not enough making soldiers steal equipment hmm
@@lizzyobrien2376 I'll just call you macgyver
3:27 Big Kahuna and King Cobra are M113's mounted on a truck chassis, that's insane.
To all Vietnam veterans thank you for your service and for the brothers who didn't make it back rest in peace
Hollywood get on this and make a movie. Please don't suck.
@Ahhhnon 42069 It'll be an all female cast
It’ll be a fresh from West Point butter bar PL getting shagged by the 3X divorced e7 platoon daddy who’s mad because his daughter is sleeping with the 1SG. All while the new guy in the unit is fresh from UCLA with his HR degree and the CO is pissed because he was supposed to stay stateside vs a deployment thus letting his unit run crazy and waste fools and cover ups the TIC.
We called it the Rat Patrol up and down Hai Van pass, taking the name from the original WW2 unit.
If Hollywood goes near it, it's gonna suck
this will be some next level mad max shit
You never steal...its "tactically acquired". 😅
"Reallocated for pursuit of mission objectives"
Requisitioned for more effective purposes.
"It is broken beyond repair"
It's called "Displacement". Because you're taking it from "dis place" to "dis place".
"Acquire"
Was there in 68-70 and 72-74 not as a GI but as a contractor fixing helicopters. Primarily with the 25th division (CuChi). They had M-60 tanks and M113 APCs riding herd on their convoys from Saigon and then out to other bases in III corp. I also saw some gun trucks but not with mini-guns. If you do a search for gun truck on the internet there are a couple sites that have lots of info. And for those that say that we got out of Vietnam in 72 that is true, most of the combat troops were gone, but the Air Force gave the VNAF 2 squadrons of C-130A transports and us contractors were their to train the VNAF. Not that they couldn't work on airplanes, but they had trouble reading the manuals.
Logistics lines (along with command centers) were always the primary target during a war. A tank or an airplane is dead without fuel. That's why the Germans attacked the convoys during WWII and the rail lines and bridges was a constant target by the allies. Attacking supply lines is a legitimate war target
It's like attacking an attacking animal in the gut, wiping out all the gut flora organisms that chose to live there in symbiosis in the process
"The M2: caliber: 13MM"
Nahh get out of here with that, it's a 12.7, I know its close enough, but .3 of a millimeter is alot when talking about ammunition
I noticed that too...
In Denmark the Fiat 127, was named the twelve seven, to honour the M2.
The US machine guns were "50 caliber" or .5 inch so if 1 inch = 25.4 mm then it was 12.7 mm. And 30 caliber, "rifle ammunition" was 7.62 mm. Not only was the bullet volume a proportional to radius squared (50 was 2x size of 30) but 50 had higher muzzle velocity (bullet power = mass times velocity squared) and (at least anti-aircraft) used high explosive rounds.
@@mcstaal Cannot Confirm, where did you find this out?
Like the german 13mm
Unbelievable how the army would not give the authority for these armoured trucks.
Tom Newham That’s bureaucracy for you. The guys in the field figured that it was better to ask forgiveness than permission.
They knew, didn't stop it.
Tom Newham It was about the Genova convention. You can’t use a .50 cal mg on someone that is out in the open and not behind cover.
@@valsgardegaming68 they place .50s on vehicles all the time, I think it was more of lacking dedicated defense vehicles during Vietnam and the army not willing to officially support these gun trucks
VALSGARDE gaming you also can’t shoot at marked medical vehicles but the NVA and Vietcong did anyway.
The joy on the faces when they explain how much they wanted the mini gun is priceless 👌
The unit I was assigned to in 1981 had a 5 ton with the .50 cal mount. It was a fun truck on range day.
My grandpa was a marine aircraft mechanic in Vietnam and told me a few times about how he and some friends took a bunch of 20mm cannons off of decommissioned aircraft and showed the army how to mount them onto trucks and APCs. Probably related?
When 19 Y.O Kids pushed there imagination to the limit
EDIT: Wow thanks, my most liked comment. 😂
And when they have a lot of military hardware laying around !
Their*
But honestly, that whole sentence kinda sucks.
@@joblessalex you should be an English teacher.
Too bad it's wasted on figuring out how to kill people. Not to mention for a war that was built on a lie against a people who originally respected and reveered the US Constitution.
@@sebastianzawierucha2237 Calm down buddy, war is good :)
2:52 him reminiscing about the mini gun brang joy to my day
I was stationed in Cha Rang Valley 1970 -'71... one of the Trans. Companies was about a 1/4 mile down the road from our compound.. used to see their gun trucks several times each week... simply awesome!!!!
Never seen these trucks before!! Thanks for sharing
Enjoyed & Thumbs Up
My Dad took some photo in Vietnam of these trucks but we lost everything in the floods in 2011.
A BIG thank you to all who serve/served👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❤
In a pointless war, killing young American men who would otherwise be productive members of our society. So yes, honor the soldiers, and spit on the politicians.
@@jackdrummond3891 honour to those who fought against the war, were locked up for their resistance and ultimately ended the war. I do not say dishonour to those who joined thinking it was a worthy cause, but we hardly call enough attention to those who helped end it and applaud them.
yeah shout out to the vietcong
Yea, thx for committing war crimes and slaughtering innocent people.
@Josh M and why did south Vietnamese women shoved their babies over the embassy walls during the fall of Saigon. Why they hung off the skids of helicopters. Why the risked their lives crossing the ocean to get to America. I am not saying the US and Aussie soldiers did not Bad things to South Vietamese civilians but the murder of millions was committed by the North Vietnamese and the Chinese during the war and later when they won. Unfortunately the writers of US history were hippie war protestor who never stepped foot in Asia.
I love when the one guy was describing the noises. He was not far off at all lol
Always admired the US army's ability to adapt fast.
The Army didnt adapt, the soldiers did
@Plain Paper Copier any supporting claims to that statements?
@Jambalya Lombardi ...okie ;-; I trust u.
@@chaosagent_0106 There was that helicopter footage that Snowden leaked.
@Jambalya Lombardi so the US did not commit war crimes against civilians in that war? good to know. Must be why the war effort had such support.
I just love how the troops in Vietnam knew how to have fun even when things go slightly bad
Just the military in general of the modern era of war (1900-present day)
"But by 18 and 19-year-olds kids trying to keep themselves and there buddy's alive "did that make anyone else smile
No. That made me really sad.
@@hollycow123445 I dint make you proud of there ingenuity
If the engineers and manufacturers were made to use their own creations sold to the Pentagon, the Troops would have nothing but the BEST.
Its funny you say that. I buddy of mine told me a story like that: they had engineers offer a piece of gear to the army. The army made the engineers dress in full MOPP 4 NBC gear before disassembling and reassembling it; the tech guys ended up fumbling around and had a hard time because the screws (and the screwdrivers that were used on them) and what not were of a normal (read as small) size and consequently almost impossible to work with while wearing the heavy NBC gloves. The engineers went back and modified the product.
If wars were fought by soldiers, not politicians and corpos, they wouldn't have lasted long. It also means no profits.
Yes, think such a problem handed to a commission......after 15 yrs they would've proposed their (costly & impratical) solution!
@@alessiodecarolis 15 years? You're such an optimist.
Props to the people who named the truck creeper
Why?
Awwwww man
Žandar Žandarević your not a true gamer you probably play fortnite ew
50050505050505050505050 no people that play fortnite have higher standards
Pathetic game-nerds
389 dislikes from roadside Viet Cong.
lol nope , we win the War , why would we care to dislike a video , that why American still amaze how we Vietnam can move on so fast vs them lol , could we didn't lost so we didn't give shit about a war that we won , war with you guy is a small dot on our long war history , America and Vietnam in cold war cause have been partner too bad you guy chose French loser to recolonize us , ho chi minh was communist sure , but he was nationalist first and he allway wanted to partner with America and stay neutral in cold war , he and all Vietnamese know real enemy will allway be the Chinese not the westerner , that why stalin didn't trust and support ho chi minh in the late 40-50s , heck Vietminh and ho chi minh was train and equip by OSS *CIA* in ww2 lol , during our independence speech you could see Vietnamese and American flag fly side by side not soviet or Chinese flag , it was American plane p38 that do flyby and doing aerobatic not soviet or Chinese plane . the French basicly pushing Vietnam into the arms of soviet and china , while Vietnam wanted to be like Yugoslavia partner of both side and stay neutral and live our life
people are idiots!!!
the big fish let the small fish fight wars
at the other side of the globe and suffer so that the big fish can make a profit and stay cosy at home eating caviar and drink champagne.
is that something to be proud of???
@@KingTriko lol
@D3LTA "we have better spelling" lol
inoue jerry i could hardly understand a word you said.
Traveled in a lot of those convoys to Ah Khe., and back. The serials ahead of our serial, or behind got hit at times, but somehow never the serial I was in. Took a lot of pictures of those gun trucks, still have them too. Interesting times you could say.
“Intimidate the enemy”
Yea that snoopy truck would strike fear in anyone
I was, at times, a gun truck machinegunner using both M60 and M1 BMG. Our truck was 5 ton with an APC shell mounted to the bed. We escorted fuel and ammo convoys out of Camranh Bay from the coast to and beyond the Cambodian border. We were hit hard and often, one of the worst places was Duc Lap with many snipers. Lost a few friends there. This video keyed my PTSD...time to end this.
😯
Thank You for your service, Sir! And a VERY Belated "Welcome Home"!
Please reply.
We need these in War Thunder.
My fav. Is the german Gepard T1. That thing is the definition of glass cannon. I have gone 25 - 0 and been killed by the first guy i saw.
What we really need is for a company that isnt Russian to operate warthunder. Their notion that they can make a game simply to beat up Germans with fake Russian military tech is absurd.
Dat account pic. Lol
Nice profile pic! 😂
@@zachhaus8488 Ya it is but is also stupid fun. There is tanks that are almost immune though. You have to know the exact spots that u can pen. A single machine round can take u out or incapacitate you. I just dont fight B2s from the or sides unless im point blank.
Its about time they talked about this👍 I was a gunner in the Iraq war... Not enough has been talked about this. My Humvee was my home for the longest time...
Been there done that, Tampa sword Vernon
Taji balad spiker el as od, biop... Man indirect fire RPG's ieds
they were in iraq to use and help build a few
also build a few 9-16 into gun trucks
Now I know what it's like to drive a truck through Chicago in the summer.
Don't stop for red lights when there is no traffic!!!
We have a joke in my country. It translates to something like:
There is that dude on a flight to Chicago, sitting on a plane scared shitless and guy sitting next to him notices and asks him why he is so scared?
"Well you know i heard stories about chicago, how it is dangerous to live there and stuff and now Im moving there for work"
"On don't worry, I live in Chicago for 25 years and its not that bad. You will buy a house in one of the safe neighborhoods, kids will go to save school and all will be cool, you just see"
"Well and what do you do for living?"
"I'm second backgunner on brewery truck"
The way they all takes about the minigun was awesome i love the way they put their own touches on the gun trucks
I need one of these on the highway! I'm sick of the left lane hogs blocking traffic behind them because they won't move out of the way:)
Acc0rd79 Sounds good!!
Those trucks are slow... They red line at ~50-55 mph.
In my personal experience, a gentle bump assist almost always improves their driving etiquette and lane awareness.
Lol
**guy flips you off**
Minigun: *BRRRRRRRRRRRR*
Fuel truck driver in nam?
I think I'd rather be a tunnel rat.
I'd rather take point in a jungle sweep
@Knight-Sgt. Reyes I think he's uneducated about how fucking scary that would be, and i'm a SAPPER!
@Knight-Sgt. Reyes Nah I'd still prefer tunnel rat. What bring you more pain? A VC stabbing/shooting you point blank range in the tunnel? Or endure 50 seconds with your body covered in flames, feeling every inch of your nerves in agonizing pain?. Tunnel rat is less scary.
Cobra gunner copilot for me
Glad I’d be in intelligence far away from battle.
The Granddaddy of Technicals, one that every Toyota Hilux dreams it could be
My buddy served 2 tours in 'Nam and told me his platoon couldn't get armed escort for their convoys because they were already better armed than the escort. They had "acquired" a couple of 5 inch Naval Guns for their trucks.
oh wow I never knew these even existed. Where can I find this full documentary?
Tag me when ya know
Nov 11 at 9:00pm on Smithsonian channel.
@@michaelsmith6175 what a pity I can't get that channel in my country.
We had these in Iraq in 04 and 05.
ManScoutsofAmerica lol kinda not really tho.
IRL madmax fury road!
Witness them!
Corbin Dunigan Get the napalm bob, we’ve got some commies.
@@cloverapossum9342 hello fur (?
@@Therandomwolfguy yep
@@cloverapossum9342m
These soldiers are creative, imaginative and badass. Well done US Soldiers!
Its sad the the US military, despite having over half of the national budget, never provides our soldiers with better equipment.
They do, but .... it's the government, what do you expect. They take forever to do anything they consider miniscual.
Most of that goes to r&d and the VA
lol have you seen our soldiers equipment now ? It’s a lot better our soldiers have the most expensive equipment in the world look it up
@@BlackIronGamer the VA is funded by itself
Take that back, the US always provides servicemen with new equipment..... 15 years too late but new regardless
My grandfather told me they would mix diesel with the OD paint to make black
Making do with what you got.
The guy who was the driver for the Colonel used to use it like wax to make the jeep shiny. I collected dust though.
Grandfather? How f*cking old am I?
The most detailed info on gun trucks, is a out of print book by the Squadron shop, called The Gun Trucks of Vietnam. I think I may still have a copy!
I was a m60 machinegunner in Quang tri Vietnam in1970 .We escorted hundreds of JP4 fuel trucks. The name of our truck was the Dirty Bitch. Would like to have a copy of the book.
Excellent book. Would like to see an updated version though.
18/19 years old man with plenty of courage and stubbornness. The sort that any nation would be proud to call there own . God Bless
My buddy flying cobras got sick of taking fire from the rear. He got some tuning and welded a machine gun and created the first rear firing cobra. It was very lethal
Great piece of Namm History...thanks for sharing man!
Good old American ingenuity, Love it baby! Get some! Get some! God bless our troops! 🇺🇸
I love stories like this.
Where equipment was built by the men in the field instead of by some engineers in an office back home.
Just picked up my AFV Club King Cobra kit, excited to add one of these to my 1/35th collection
We still use ma deuce. We call her that because mama deuce will take care of you.
I'm pretty sure it's called that because it's the Model 2?
I was in 'Nam from MAR70 - MAR71. We NEVER called it "Ma Deuce". Never heard that term until I got back home. We just called it "the Fifty".
And this year will be her 100th birthday!
"launching a combination of ak fire, mines" mines? Are they throwing them like frisbees?
maybe they are planted at the road or maybe thrown by hand
Made me wonder too.
mines is shells for mine launcher, like bombs with gunpowder to shot itself from the muzzle
as a mechanic and gunner in the military, I love this. 172nd and 3rdID!
I had no idea. I loved this video.
I have seen countless videos about Vietnam and did not know about this.
now do a follow up vid of the GUN TRUCKS used in IRAQ... My crew had to demil 90% of them.. Welds looked like peanut butter and only blood and sand held them all together.
You were one of those "more dakka" guys that tried to see if you could get the truck overweight with the guns you had set up, weren't you?
key words....held together.
@Anne Isopod
@@soldierski1669 california prob
Yup
Gov't should listen to the troops in war. Afterall, they are the ones actually working. If they need gun trucks or special guns - soldiers should NOT have to make them themselves, steal or borrow. The military gets plenty of money to make this happen.
The government didn't prohibit this. Officers did.
yeah...but the pencil pushers know whats best...remember that...
BuT ThE GeNeVa CoNvEnTiON RuLz!!!??
@@yoshcarrillo2511 nobody broke the geneva Rules doing thoses upgrades not even by using miniguns,it's just pencil pushers and officers who never went outside the base (except for using hookers)
Pretty sure those mini-guns would've better served on helicopters headed for actual hot zones. Lots of door gunners had to make do with M60s, wonder where the mini-guns went?
"The M60", shows a 240
The only thing that's the same about them is they are both belt fed.
Actually that was an M60
@@shunami4186 1:40 that's a 240
Looked a bit odd
It amazes me how many people have never heard of the FN MAG, poor Belgian guns never get any love.
Ammo runs from Chi Chi to ammo dumps 1966-67. A battery 13th. artillery- ammo humper. Driver and shotgun with an m79. “Road Runners”.74 years old but remember it like yesterday.
Welcome back to all !
OMG 1:41 they're talking about the M-60 and they manage to show a MAG (M-240) firing...
Haha, yeah
18-19 year old in 60's : Time to upgrade our truck with some serious firepower!
18-19 year olds in 2018: Dabbing, Fortnite dancing.
gotta ask...what is 'dabbing', and 'fortnite dancing'?
You do not want to know. Your faith in humanity will drop lower than the Mariana Trench.
Dont forget eating tide-pods
@@TheHigherVoltage Dabbing is this stupid arm gesture what young millenials made and Fortnite dancing is obviously a canceros dance moves from a cancerous video game
To be honest, it's the 14-16yo doing the dabbing and fortnite stuff.
We seriously did very similar things when my Marine support company crossed into Iraq in 2003. We had fabric doors. Interesting times.
No better motivator to a working design than built by those who want to stay alive.
Hell yeah... need more vids like this!!
Nice, never heard about these gun trucks until now.
"Nah the army doesn't need those, supply does. A minigun is usless without the ammo we bring to the front or the airbase."
We started out with crap ones in Iraq; Humvees overloaded with extra "hillbilly" armor. There were some 5-tons too, I was in the trail vehicle 5-ton with the .50-cal for a lot of runs through the Sunni Triangle. Later we got up-armored stuff that was factory made but still basically a Humvee, then whole new vehicles were built-- the MRAPs. Crazy, weird times.
Very much a reinvention of the wheel here. Those retrofitted vehicles are mimics of the WWII era German Mechanized Infantry transports like the Sonderkraftfahrzeug 251 just without the half-track. Its baffling how the U.S. Army could be so inflexible in Vietnam. The Army seemingly refused to revert any equipment or tactics back if the new stuff was less effective. Hell it even seems like WWI generals were even more flexible and those guys initially sent Calvary against machine gun nests.
The U.S. top brass in the '50s and '60s were very stupid people. There are books and lectures on how bad it was. This is probably why the grunt on the ground was given so much power such as a private ordering an officer to attack something from the air or by artillery.
Hmm, Calvary vs machine gun nest? That's a crazy idea
They talk about an M60 and immediately show footage of a M240
Lol
SAW
It's obviously an MG-42.
More like an MG-34.
Stephen Carr is right. It's an FN MAG (original name for the belgian machine gun) or M240 (name in the US military)
Thanks for this one. It went right in my Craftsmanship list ,)
I got to see The Untouchable and Brutus back in San Antonio a few years ago! Beautiful Beast they were
It's not stealing, it's "acquiring" 12bravo
I think that these guys had more fun than they care to admit .God bless them .
Very cool trucks, improvise and adapt.
great video of a forgotten piece of history