PATCHBAY HALF NORMALLED or NORMALLED MODE Which One Is Best To Use In Your Studio.
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2018
- In this episode we talk about the half normalled mode in Patchbay configuration and why you should understand and use it in your studio. A Patchbay, being the most misunderstood piece of equipment used in a studio is really not that hard to install and benefit from. A properly installed unit will add a degree of functionality not experienced before. Where things typically get tricky is that the novice, using a patch panel for the first time, thinks they must utilize patch cables everywhere. Not so! A patchbay allows you to connect your most important pieces in a semi permanent way by using the Half normalled mode. In this mode you can connect a preamp to a particular channel input on your interface and through the top panel jacks access a signal to drive a headphone amp. This mode is popular in home studios because most 1/4” jack panel come pre configured in this fashion. If you like this video please give it a thumbs up and share it. PLEASE SUBSCRIBE :-)
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Is it at all funny as a content creator to have folks watch your video and comment on it two years later? Thanks for this video, exactly what I needed!
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I might need your guidance on setting up my home studio gear. Great video. Thanks for posting!
Maurice, Thanks for watching and reaching out brother! Feel free to go through the videos and if you have any questions beyond that leave a comment and I'll be sure to respond. Thanks again for watching and subscribing.
This is the clearest explanation I've seen on CZcams. Nice one 🙂
Thanks for watching🙏🏽✌🏽
great man! finally understood the concept, thank you very much!
Francisco! Thanks for watching. Glad it helped!
Dude this video was well explained! Thanks
Adam! Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!🙏🏾
Thanks! Great video
Thanks for watching✌
I have a Samson S Patch 48pt TRS balanced patchebay. The beauty of these is the ability to change config for each port from N-T-HN from front panel dip switches. Great job on explaining the differences between N, T and HN. How I remembered it is by waterfall, water falls OUT of the top jack and IN to the bottom jack. I usually leave them in Normalized going to the most used I/O's. I'll do HN when I need a second copy to route elsewhere . I like the ability to route around or in or out to any external/outboard analog gear. One thing I'd like your opinion on is why mic pre's shouldn't go to a 1/4 patchbay (I'm assuming something to do with +48v phantom power so you don't mistakenly cook a piece of gear by patching. Also what is the preferred I/O to use on all the external gear. Most all of my gear has both balanced XLR's and balanced 1/4 in TRS I/O's.
Hey Shawn thanks for watching. The Samson Patchbay is one of the best. With regards to mic pre's and phantom power in a patchbay, it's a "no no" in standard practice. I was told long ago it had to do with the voltage having the potential of harming ribbon mics (which require no phantom power). It takes very little heat to burn out the aluminum ribbon in a mic. The preferred I/O for external gear is whatever works for you. Because you have the Samson you can configure it so you can use the upper and lower banks independent of one another. That's handy for attaching compressors and equalizers.✌
very cool info a+
Thanks for watching ✌🏾
He's right half normalled gives good options, like to see a vid on mic patch bays, that's a tricky area with phantom power TRS shorting etc.
Namah Shivay 🙏 Thank you Awsemome Information with suggestions
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Great, well spoken vid. I have a lot of issues configuring my Saffire 56, which one engineer friend had me route cables from the outputs to the Saffire to inputs of patch.
Also, the 1-8 pres were understood for xlr to xlr patch(Art P16), -which I did,
but I had another engineer friend tell me that 1/4 jacks setup is more for outboard mixing, not tracking.
So, I respect both men and they have their very elaborate studios; but at this point, Im more confused now than when I started. I have all the snakes and cables, just without the map.
The other issues are an Art MPA 2 ch pre, and Pro VLA limiter, as well as one Neve Portico, 2 ch pre...
All the ins and outs, thru, routing, etc, has me about crazy. I just want to track music!
Any thoughts on this routing conundrum and how can I utilize these 4 simple items?
Allen, thanks for watching. Honestly you should start with an EXCEL spreadsheet outlining what is going where. If I'm understanding you correctly you have 2 outboard 2 channel preamps and one 2 channel compressor. You'd be dedicating the 4 outputs of the preamps to 4 inputs on the interface. Not a difficult task but can be somewhat daunting if this is your first time doing it. I'd suggest you'd review the videos as I have broken down each task into baby steps for the first time user. If you have any further question feel free to reach out anytime.
Thanks warren
Adam! My brother! thanks for watching✌🏾
thank you for your time and clear tutorial, much appreciated. I am wondering if it is possible to make it so that the top and bottom of the Neutrik NYS are sends (outputs)
much love, Pete
Pete how are you. I believe if you flip the cards around you can use the patchbay in that fashion. Thanks for watching.
@@WarrenHenry ill try that. Thank u !🙏🏻❤
Hey first of all thanks for this video! Good thing is I have the exact same patchbay as you. Bad thing is, I want a thru-configuration, because I want my outboard gear to be fully modular
. I have 2 Stereo EQs and 2 Stereo Compressors and a soundcard with 8 ins and 8 outs. So I thougt I just connect the outputs in the upper row (1-8 soundcard, 9-12 EQs, 13-16 Compressors) and the same for the inputs in the lower row. No my problem is, that all my outboard processors are in clipping mode, when nothing is pugged into the lower input jacks. I can only prevent this if I plug something in, which is not the most ellegant solution in my case. Is there maybe a tweak for that? I don't want my gear to clip whenever I change the configuration. Hopefully I could describe it understandably... Thanks for any help.
Sounds like you have a feedback loop in your system. Email me a picture of your setup describing what is where on the patch panel. Ill see if I can help. Email address is under business inquiries on my channel page "about tab".
Great video!! Any particular brand/model of patchbay that you recommend?
Hi Zack, thanks for watching. I recommend the Neutrik Brand patchbay
Thanks@@WarrenHenry I appreciate the quick response. Have a great Holiday!
hey man thanks a lot for the video! I'm still confused tho.. could you maybe tell me pls where I put the outs of my compressor and the ins so I could connect to it from the front?
Thanks for watching. The top row of the panel connect to your outputs. The bottom row are for inputs. Thanks again for watching ✌🏾🙏🏾
Hello Warren Henry,
Thanks for the very informative vid.
I would like to use a patchbay to connect my (guitar)pedals, 500 series effects/ preamp and a 19inch tube preamp. I would like to try `special` combinations. I`m somewhat stuck on how to connect at the rear and how to set it up in RME Totalmix. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you.
regards,
Niels
Please send me an email. The link is on the about page of my channel
Absolutely love the video 👌 I have the nuetrik NYS-SPP-L1 like yours and it's set at half normalled..
Is this the best way to run my gear .
I have an antelope discrete 8 Synergy core and a API lunch box DB25 to trs . To match patch bay and was wondering if you think I should use the half normalled settings for patch routing?
Any help would be appreciateed
Regards Chad 🙌
When in doubt use as half normalled. Thanks for watching ✌🏽
@@WarrenHenry thank you for direct answer I'll run in half-normalled like a normalised patchbay
thanks!
Thanks for watching✌🏾
I’ve got a dumb question for you, what are those rack screws attached to your patchbay? They look like flathead machined screws, possibly with caged nuts? Thanks!
Michael "Blue" Erdmier thanks for watching. The silver screws are for attaching a ground wire. You’ll most likely replace these with standard rack screws once installed.
Warren Henry thanks man. Just to clarify, if I want to use outboard gear on vocal tracks that I have already recorded, a half-normaled configuration is they way to go?
Ricky Herrera if that’s going to be your ongoing workflow, then yes. The half normalled configuration allows you to maintain a dedicated connection without a patch cable. How many outputs do you have on your interface?
Hey thanks for the reply Warren. I have 10 analog outputs on my interface.
The more outputs you have the more flexibility. You can dedicate a stereo pair to inputs of an analog mastering chain which would include a stereo buss compressor and a Parametric EQ. The possibilities are endless. I'm working on an episode this week that will bring a bit more clarity. We're going to create a legend on a spreadsheet which will show what goes where. But suffice it to say you have a lot of possibilities.
Hi Warren! I have 2 Switchcraft "stone-age", 1/4" audio (solid brass) patchbays wired to XLR by Loooong pig-tails! I want to sell them on Reverb, but they were part of a package that included a Yamaha PM1000 16 channel mixer. I don't understand the "patrchbay terminology" and should I sell or keep?
Hi, Thanks for watching. Patchbays and its associated jargon is not hard to understand. In layman's terms, with a half normalled bay microphone preamps are connected to a recording device through a patch panel without the use of a front patch cable . All connections are through the back of the panel. With regards to your second question, I have a three month rule. In other words, if it hasn't been used in three months and serves no purpose to my workflow it belongs on EBay😁 thanks for your comment
@@WarrenHenry Thanks for the quick reply and eliminating my "head-scratching"! Gonna take the pix today and hit Ebay. After more than 50+ years in music, mainly performing and an early career in local radio broadcasting (my first encounter with patchbays) you would think I was more up-to-date on patchbays, but I never used them personally, but understand the advantage in multi-effect recording,etc. Thanks again!
i got my powered moniters on sends 1 and 2. had to daisy chain my analog i/o from my focusrite 8i6 through my lexicon mx200 to returns 1 and 2 all half normal. is this cool? tell me what is wrong.
You really should connect your monitors to outputs 1&2 directly and use 3&4 to connect to your patch bay. By setting it up this way you can use those outputs 3&4(sends) to connect to the mx200 inputs (returns) directly. Sounds to me like you need a larger interface. If you want serious flexibility look for anything with six outputs or more. Thanks for watching
I'm on it and thanks for taking time to toss some knowledge.
Im still confuse sadly. I do voice over and have different pre amps and conpressors. I have a main setup that i use. Avalon to my distressor to my audio interface. Depending on the work i use different compressors for cleaner sound and sometimes preamps. Should and would a patchbay be beneficial for me instead of having to always move my audio gear go to the back and unplug and replug do different things.
Crivoh connecting everything to a patch bay will alleviate you having to unplug your equipment. Instead all connections are made with a cable. In your case that would be very beneficial
@@WarrenHenry thank you. I was also wondering is it possible to use or split the signal. Like if i want to use an eq on 2 mics or 2 channels on my mixer. But my eq only has 1 channel is that possible
You can split the output on the patchbay to two locations.
How do I connect my compressors and rack equipment connected to my 16 track board to a patch-bay and use eveything ?
All connections are made via snake cabling. Thanks for watching 🙏🏽
Hey Mr. Warren.....(for lack of a better word), this channel is DOPE! Oh so much gold!
Glad to have you as a subscriber. Thx for the compliment. More to come
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Hi Warren, i was wondering, would connecting output and input from my audio interface directly above each other cause a feedback loop?
Yes. I’m going to cover this in an upcoming video. Stay tuned
@@WarrenHenry thanks for your swift reply😊