Caline Pure Sky...could this be the BEST budget Overdrive??
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Something a little different today...we had a comment on our 'MXR Mini Timmy' video suggesting that the Caline Pure Sky Overdrive is a very inexpensive and rather good version of the Timmy...so Gabor bought this pedal for AU$44 on eBay to try out...what are your thoughts??
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I got one... This thing is unbelievable! Could not put the guitar down for hours the first time I plugged it in. It is that good!
Agree 100%.
Better than some Boutique pedals. Absolutely amazing. Will never give it away!
I have one of these pedals and it's amazing. The versatility and sounds created with different pickups. I also Dig the light sky-blue guitar. That looks and sounds amazing. Thanks, guys, for the video.
My favorite overdrive of all time and I have played quite a few.
Lifted from TDPRI:
"I got my Caline CP-12 Pure Sky from China a couple of days ago so I thought I'd take it apart and see what made it tick. First, it was nice to see through-hole components for experimentation if desired. I was also able to verify that it was indeed a Timmy (no big surprise), without the extra two clipping diodes and switch, and without the goofy off-center reference bias. The chip was a socketed JRC4559.
One more exception to the Timmy would be the operation of the Bass and Treble controls. They operate with the more conventional CW=more rotation, rather than the 'backwards' cut controls. The Bass and Treble pots are 50KC and 10KC tapers, respectively. The rest of the components (that matter) checked out against the Timmy schematic. The bias resistor going to pin 3 was 470K instead of the Timmy 510K. I've never verified the Timmy was 510K either, but the difference is insignificant.
The pedal sounds as good as any Timmy I've built, probably because I don't use the extra clipping diodes or off-set bias either, and I also wire the Tone controls the same way.
Enough about the Good. Now for the Bad. Quality SUCKS. The board was wave soldered, and the pots were hand soldered. The wave solder process had a bad temperature profile (from my manufacturing experience) because there was excessive solder on the wave side (bottom) and very little if any wicking through the plated holes and up the component leads. The hand soldering of the pots was just as bad. It looked as though they used a solder with a huge diameter, which causes you to use too much before it wicks through the plated holes. There were solder balls all over the back side of the board, excessive solder, and leads that were poorly trimmed, leaving a potential for shorting.
The socketed chip was not fully seated on one side, and most components looked like a 3-year-old was shown how to insert them.
The screws holding the bottom plate on were either not long enough or the holes were tapped wrong. There are nice looking threads at the tops of each hole, but the screws fall straight through them to the bottom of the hole where they only catch between 1 and 3 threads. One screw doesn't catch any threads with the cover on.
I hate the plastic jacks because there is barely enough thread for the nuts to secure them tightly. It looked very much like the Lovepedals and many others who need to design for fast assembly. I could be wrong, but I didn't see any connection where they could have used the metal box as an advantage for shielding the way that Boss does. The power jack is also PC mounted the way many seem to be now.
The paint and graphics were nice, and the knobs used hex set screws. The 3P3T switch looked like the same quality switches the on-line parts retailers sell.
After a few minutes dressing up the board and resoldering a few connections, it is now probably as good as many products of higher initially quality, but that's probably why it got a Timmy delivered to my door for $32 including shipping. I'll loose one of the screws eventually, but I got what I paid for. Now I can modify it."
tinny? Timmy? Pure Sky?Simply Heavenish? Timmy? Tommy the rockopera by the WHO!, Timmy, tinny? JIMI? tinny...
Sorry to correct you, but is actually a copy of the JanRay
Just ordered one after this review. Finally a demo with gain on max and humbuckers.
Awesome...hope you like it!!
hello guys, bought two pure sky pedals in 2015 for 25 euros each. it's not the best budget overdrive, it's simply a great overdrive. guitar and bass players all over the world should try this brand once. the snake bite is very nice too, sort of eqd afterneath.
thanks for your videos and music. you are superprofessional showmen.
greetings from florence, italy
Grazie Mille Marco...hopefully we will get to try more of them in the future!!
@Brandon Long that’s a really hard question...there are so many cheap brands out there...out of the ones I tried this one is definitely the best...not sure if you saw our shootout with this and the MXR Timmy & Vemuran Jan Ray...but it didn’t seem like a “cheaper” pedal compared to the other two...it really held its ground!!
Man- this drive gets so much praise form everyone and sounds so good on the demos- I've got to check it out. I like Caline stuff usually- they're surprisingly good for the price and I've never had an issue with any of their stuff. And really, I shouldn't just say "good for the price" some of their stuff is just good period- I'd pay a lot more for it and still love it. Mosky is the same way- their Silver Horse klon clone is amazingly good, and their version of the diamond Compressor is shockingly good. Which is unusual, a budget compressor is hard to find- one that's any good any way- this one rocks. It has a "clipping" knob on it so- you can use it to clip the signal if you're using a low output pickup and looking for some heat. Or, if the compression is causing distortion that you don't want because you're running hotter pickups- you can get rid of it. I hardly use it anymore because the amp I just bought has a lot of natural compression on board, I don't really need it anymore. But if I run one my solid state amps, I still use it.
I really like my Pure Sky. Mine's usually set on low to mid gain and it's an "always on" pedal for me. For leads I mostly use an EQ with the mids bumped up and it works out well. It also stacks well with other OD pedals.
Excellent stacking pedal in my experience, too.
hi! try the Mosky Deluxe Preamp: it wins the Pure Sky : more defined, refined.plus an independent boost!.., dont get me wrong I have two of each and also two Caline Orange Bursts, but the Mosky is really Deluxe!! : )
If you run the Pure Sky into an EHX Hot Tubes and run 'em simultaneously, you get a really nice tight fuzz sound. For reference, they sounds very much like the TC Electronics Rusty Fuzz. Pure Sky and Hot Tubes are both great stacking pedals.
Gotta try that...thank you for the tip!!
I got mine for 18 quid about 6 years ago. Love it.
What a bargain...great pedal!!
I owned a LOT overdrive pedals and this one stays in my top 5 !
just found this vid...glad i did!
sweet pedal!
i was just waitin on one of you to ripp into some acdc woooo!!
great job mates!
This has become my go to overdrive, winning out over considerably more expensive ones.
Yes. It is.
This + Caline Orange Burst is a great gain stack.
Just ask Dr. Ric from "In The Blues". The demo they did on those two pedals is legendary among aficionados of the art of "guitar face".
Indeed. For an adjustable fly rig, a Pure Sky and an Orange Burst will fit most all your needs at a jam. That's how I use them. To me, the Orange Burst sounds basically like a high gain Pure Sky.
The Orange Burst is an Xotic BB clone, btw.
Gotta check out more of these Caline pedals...and we will try to up our guitar faces for the next video 😜
@@TSFAHTPS Face off!
@@AndrewLewisHowe Orange is an Xotic BB Preamp clone, straight-up. Very close in an A/B test.
The Joyo ZIP Amp is currently filling that role on my jam/rehearsal board. It's a clone of the Xotic BB "custom comp" Preamp. (Or "comp preamp", can't recall the precise wording. There's an Xotic AC Booster Comp "custom" model as well, wonderful pedal. Wonder if anyone has cloned that sucka..
I have one of these and I really liked it but it quickly had a problem with one of the jacks in the pedal. With all that being said, I still think it's worth a try
I’ve had this pedal on my board for over a year and it’s been my primary drive. And the Caline Crazi Cati in front of it to push it.
I love this thing. In line with a Digitech hothead, Hellbabe and a load of other gubbins. Awesome.
Pure Sky is an oddity. I have a board with EQD, Neunaber, OBNE and my Pure Sky is the only “always on” pedal. It’s time to admit the planets aligned when this pedal was made
I'm the whole world... I know I'm kinda late, but im here to watch 👌🏻
once upon my time i had a guitar with p90 pup, did not like it, just ordered two Pure Sky peds for 44€s delivered..., already have three Caline HighwayMan peds, marvellous strat tone enhancers! guys: its an overdrive not aye freakin dist ped... luv, K : )
Azor pedals are mini versions of these. I had the Pure Sky and loved it but sold it and bought the Azor version and it’s my favorite dirt pedal.
which azor was that. prob the sky blue overdrive pedal ?
What did you get like 15 bucks🤣🤣🤣🤣
My overdrive channel died on my orange. This was a great replacement
I love the Caline Orange burst equally.
Edit: Right at the end you ask us to share about Caline pedals. One of my Calines is the English Man, which I think is one of the best Plexi-style pedals. Not sure if you've reviewed it yet, but it's well worth the money. Sounds great. I keep the gain on mine at around 9 o'clock, so it's kind of like an overdriven JTM sound. Cheers, guys.
This is the only Caline pedal I’ve ever tried...I’ll see if they can send me a bunch of pedals...and I’ll keep the English Man in mind...thank you Christopher
@@TSFAHTPS Also try the Caline Rock Face--lower gain than the English Man, and I like the English Man better, but the Rock Face is still like an early Marshall-ish sound. You might like it.
This is one of the best overdrive pedals on the market. At any price. Period. (It sounds better than my MXR Timmy)
You should test the NUX 6ixty 5ive (Sorry, that's the name). It's a copy of the Vemuram. Which is a copy of a Timmy.
02:40 that fly buzzing reaction 😅😅
Your playing could even sell a Digital metalizer ,love your guys playing
Haha...
They could sell the Korg Miku to an imaginary singer. Lol.
IMHO P90 + Pure Sky = Great base sound. I usually stack it as a fairly clean always- on pedal before a Tai Chi distortion or a Klon clone (Mosky Silverhorse). It plays well with other pedals. No complaints. Great value. Money well spent. Con: I don't like the location of the 9v input. Would buy again in a second.
I have owned the Pure Sky for 2 years now. >> It emulates the most compressed setting on the Timmy from what I read.
Bought it along the Mooer Hustle (OCD clone).
The first time I played through the Caline, the cleans felt 'velvet-y', balanced and so smooth.
I didn't like the overdrive and never will.. it's NOT touch sensitive, is muddy and lacks note separation when driven.
Because of all this, I like the OCD more as it reacts to your playing dynamics much more and cleans up great just with your touch.
However, the Pure Sky is great for EQ'ing and is very transparent..
It also functions really well to reduce the volume for late night playing (Master volume of sorts)..
I love playing through it because it has that subtle compression which feels like playing on velvet.. and the string to string balance is so sweet...
7th and 9th chords played in a jazz/ finger plucked manner sound really beautiful with it.
Do try that someday.
Thanks for the video guys!
Thank you...I will try that!!
@@TSFAHTPS Cool!
Pure Sky is the Timmy in least-compressed mode. Sym clipping but with a high headroom diode clipping 'level'.
Wow, I'm convinced now. I'm gonna buy one myself. Also, guys... have you tried Caline Mariana reverb? I would like to hear about it. I want to get one, but I'm not sure. Thanks for this review!
Thank you for watching it…we have a video with the Mariana Reverb on our channel…it’s a pretty interesting and quirky reverb!!
Now I regret buying the Donner blues overdrive a little bit 😂 but it was cheap and it does the job.
As a puresky owner, probably yes. For $30 you can’t beat it
Hiya two: you know which is even better than the Caline Pure Sky: the Mosky Deluxe Preamp!! ( just bought two..): abides swell on my rug :Mad Prof Simble- Fender Engager Boost-Mosky Deluxe Preamp-DOD Looking Glass(dah!)-Nobels ODEAR-1BC(thou Im not cutting it the bass daah..!) the Mosky has an independent booster, yaye! luv from K, : )
Cool demo, thanks!!
Waiting for mine… purple version so it’ll be better I think. Does sound great.
Nice…I didn’t know there was a purple version!! Hope you’ll like it…it’s a great pedal!!
@@TSFAHTPS Yeah, it’s the 10th anniversary version, got it yesterday, purple and a 10th anniversary sticker. Sticker’s a little underwhelming but for $30 bucks, what do you want?
Caline have a Pegasus Overdrive pedal. You can probably guess what it is based on. If I didn't have a Tumnus I would probably use it.
I wonder...😜
I ordered one of these Pure Sky pedals off Banggood for $31. In fact ordered three pedals for $82. The other ones were the Twinote Fuzz Pi and the Axor Noise pedal. I was hoping the Fuzz Pi would be an actual Fuzz pedal but turns out it is more of a distortion pedal.
$31 Australian?? Damn that’s cheap
@@TSFAHTPS Yeah! It was the ad for the Twinote Fuzz Pi that got my attention. It was $26. Plus I got a discount for being a first time buyer. So three cheap pedals for the price of one cheap pedal. The thing is the Fuzz hasn't shipped yet. So the catch might that I have a long wait. But the Caline Pure Sky and Azor Noise pedal are on their way.
Ben watching you demos a long time always good. You paid way to much at $44.00 :) I just bought mine for $33.08 4 day shipped and free returns. No wonder Paul Cochrane got out of the Timmy business. Can't believe the stupid crazy asking prices for a used Timmy that new was $135.00 back in the day. I bought like 3 of them over the years. Every now and then you actually get more than you pay for. This is one of those rare times.
Cool. I'm actually waiting to receive one via mail, any day now
Which is better this puré sky or The Queen bee?
I never knew Joe Hildebrand did gear reviews lol
Great demo, sounds awesome. Cheap pedals are insane these days
It´s sound so great!
These pedals are on the bright side. Almost harsh with active pickups. As you increase the gain you get a modern overdrive with good low end and sustain.
Would buy this pedal again.
that's a good thing ain't it? easier to tame a bright pedal than to get some life from a dead one, IMO
That blue box has been sitting next to the joyo sweet baby in my wishlist for some time. Gotta love a budget box that actually rocks 🤘🏽
Whats a 'Joyo fat baby'? I looked for a video on it and there was none...
@@tomasotreasaigh111 sorry “sweet baby” not fat baby
We were genuinely surprised...it’s a really good sounding pedal...need to try more Caline stuff
@@TSFAHTPS I got the Eq maybe 35 USD not rugged by any means but nice sounding.
Great Review!
The pedal sounds killer
i bought an orange burst a long time ago. it sounded good but only lasted about a week before it started not working correctly. i wanted to try the pure sky but after the problems with the orange burst i thought its was a waste of money. i also had some other cheap pedals they were ok but the breakup wasnt smooth and they robbed tone from your guitar. i then bought a bb preamp at and immediately knew why it cost more. it is smooth and dynamic and i have used it over a year now with no problems. not always but, most of the time you get what you pay for.
The only pro0blem with this line of reason is that every manufacturer- including the most top of the line stuff out there- makes lemons. This is why we have CZcams channels and gear communities-- so you can check and see what the overall, general experience most ppl have is- not just your own. And if you do that concerning Caline pedals, you'll see that issues are actually very rare. I use several of their pedals- used them when I was gigging 5 days a week- and they held up with no problems. Not every pedal they make is great, some I don't care for but- there's no issues with quality or longevity, they hold up fine. And sometimes- just like the big expensive guys- they happen to hit the jackpot and come up with something really good- like this pedal. Your prerogative but, imo you're going to miss out on a lot of great gear if you make judgements based on one transaction or one piece of gear. Rock on man.
@@stoneysdead689 i have not gotten any lemons with my other pedals just the cheap chinese pedals and if i did they would immediately replace them. ive had several chinese ones and have had problems with them except the biyang tri-reverb which is a decent pedal and i still have it but it was closer to $60. the quality is not the same with most chinese brands. the case, pots, the circuit boards and the parts in the circuit are all cheap stuff in the chinese pedals. i have and had other brands like xotic, mxr, digitech, korg, boss, eventide...etc and never had a problem with any of those. you can feel the quality in the case and the pots and the sound on the good pedals and they will be working for the rest of my life. you get what you pay for with most things in life, not all but most, including guitar pedals.
What chords are you playing from 4:29 to 5:00? You guys took the camera off the guitar and put it on the pedal? Especially that chord at 4:48 is so juicy!!!
Thank you very much...it’s part of a song I wrote ages ago...it’s Csus2 - Dsus2 - Emadd9 (it’s like sus2 chord but it still has the minor 3rd) The juicy chord is an A7add11 ...after that I play F#m11 - G#m11...I will run through it in the next Questions, Comments and stuff video...Episode 5
Nice. I'm going to be getting one of these. And I would definitely like to see more Caline pedals demo'd by you guys. Trying to take my mind off of the election...
I’ll definitely get in touch with them...we were both very impressed with this pedal...it would be interesting to see how good all the other pedals are
@@TSFAHTPS hows that going?
@@boimesa8190 the getting on touch with them?? That went well...they sent us a bunch of pedals...here is the playlist with all the videos
czcams.com/play/PLhruViLOywrqs8eXaNTlC9IkB5BuGAWk7.html
Yes it is, that said the new Caline line up of pedals have really cool graphics, i think the pure sky deserve a total cool relooking. It's kind of ugly actually.
nice demo of nice pedal. well done!
Thank you very much Jeffrey!!
335 cherry man this a red bloody marry cool drive setup
Got one of these a month ago... Playing with a Strat, so single coil, and I need to push gain to very high (top 25% of dial) to get any decent overdrive, and then I have to put volume down to almost zero, like seriously just above where it cuts out completely (need to carefully find that point) and even then it's 20% louder than switched off. Is this normal for this pedal? I've had other overdrive pedals and used other single coil guitars with em and this doesn't seem right.
What wiuld you choose?
For rock and metal and some blues
Tube screamer type or timmy?
I just bought a Boss ds-1. I this a good OD pedal to stack the ds-1? Like use it as a boost? What makes this cool is it you can adjust the treble and bass.
which one i better & more versatile for beginner? caline's pure sky or joyo's tauren?
I haven’t tried the Tauren by Joyo…sorry!!
Hey from mtw in Los Angeles.
Hi LA...and hello back from Australia
I just compared the mini mxr Timmy with Pure Sky. No comparison. The real Timmy is why better. The overdrive is clear with sweet harmonics while Pure Sky is muddy and noisy. The cleans of Pure Sky is acceptable though. I would definitely get Timmy.
I've got this one on my board. I thought the Pure Sky is a clone of the Vemuram Jan Ray, not the Timmy. Sounds great regardless, definitely a bargain, but now I've got my eye on a Space Charged V2 by Crazy Tube Circuits.
Nice to see Alex chose a guitar to match the pedal, I think that's one of the coolest in his collection.
And the Vemuram is basically a Timmy, too. Those who have traced the Pure Sky circuit note the same component values and topology as the Timmy. All three are basically the same.
Jan ray and Timmy is basically the same pedal. Eirik from Livingroom demos did a comparison and they sounded pretty much the same.
I was just about to say that as far as I know the Jan Ray is basically the same as a Timmy...I’m trying to borrow a Jan Ray for a Pure Sky vs MXR Timmy vs Jan Ray video.
I should have used my Fano too...then we would have been completely colour coordinated
@@TSFAHTPS Nice, looking forward to it!
Hi,how do you rate Caline Pure Sky,compare to Mojo Mojo Tc electronic overall which one sound better?two of them transparent pedals,what is your opinion,thanks..
It's a fabulous pedal so cheap buy two and stack them?
Sure why not
My Pure Sky has a loud pop noise when I turn it on, which makes It almost unusable.
That’s no good…see if you can return it because mine definitely doesn’t do that
Check your power supply, noise when turning on pedals can be a lack of power or a faulty connector
what's that dark blue guitar? it looks gorgeous!
The dark blue Jazzmaster? That’s a parts guitar I put together a while ago…here is a video about it:
czcams.com/video/p_c74FAOu38/video.htmlsi=_onWXjKFw-zOaLqz
pedal top som perfeito e baixo custo eu tenho um e amo ele
Custo beneficio imbatível
Can't really figured out is it a low gained overdrive?
Id say low to medium gain
I don't think its a Timmy clone. The Timmy lets some of the clean though. I don't hear that with the Pure Sky. I feel like the Timmy is more scooped as well.
Yeah you’re right. Also I could never get a Timmy to sound quite right with a Fender amp, and later learned that the creator said they work better with Marshall. I never really had that problem with the Pure Sky, probably because it’s a tad less scooped, which is good news for Fender amps. There’s certainly some overlap in sound between the two though.
I could never get my Timmy to sound like my PS. 🤓✌️
@@Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55 I agree!
My Caline Pure Sky works better (believe me)than my original Timmy V3 and even my mini MXR Timmy into the clean channel of my Fender Hot Rod Deluxe V3 and V4 amp models. Real facts,not my opinion.
i thought oasis too
seems like this one and the caline orange burst have been getting a lot of attention. Orange burst is the same price, maybe grab one of those and do a comparison? This one sounds great though for sure.
Check "In The Blues". They did a great demo on those two pedals, separate and stacked.
How does it sound boosting a distortion or dirty amp? Compared to a TS
We might just do a video on that soon!!
What's your clean tone though?
Thought this was supposed to be clean. Although, perhaps you have the gain on your amp cranked up for some reason.
This is an overdrive pedal review.
What brand / model is that p 90 guitar. Looks real nice!
Its a Larrivee RS2...not sure if they still make that model...its a great guitar!!
Pure Sky convert here .
Damn I'm impressed haha.
We both were very impressed...surprised and impressed
These Pure Sky does what a Timmy does, for sure, without the clipping options. However, they don't come across as 'flat' or 'transparent' as a Timmy does. The Timmy IS better (or at least my circa 2010 Tim pedal is). Could be the op amp, could be the quality of the parts, or simply component variance.
I’ve been trying to find an older Timmy to borrow for a shootout with the MXR Timmy and this pedal...would be interesting to gear the difference side by side
Better is subjective
Mosky Obsessive Drive.. gain at 0, volume at "11". Best sound, dynamic, some limiting and compression, retains bass, adds presence and attack. It really is a great pedal... its crazy I paid only $15.
Yep, I have the Mooer Hustle Drive, a clone of the OCD.. dynamic and responsive pedal for sure
Ye, i think it is
I always pronounced Caline as "call in"
thank you guys, very interesting...could I ask you your precious opinion please ? I'm searching for a high gain channel boost for solos (vht pittbull 50cl no eq)...well, now i use custom audio boost but it only work well on the crunch... and a Maxon808 that it's nice for riffs but doesn't work well for solos....i need something to "go out and higher"... I'm thinking about this pure sky or the brother orange burst...which is better? or is definitely better an EQ? thank you very much!
I have both. The PS tone controls are pleasing without going too far. Gain is low but I run it first - clean - always on. The OB gets a more *hi-fi* sound. Both treble and bass can go farther than you may want. There is more gain but not a lot....(it's being pushed by the PS). Sorta adding hair but staying crisp. They are different but I like both.
@@1492oceanblue2 thank you so much Scarlet, maybe will buy both... 😉
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet OD Pedal.
Are u reviewing the pedal or your setup?
Why…are we talking a lot about the setup? I don’t remember…we filmed this a few years ago!
We always go through our setup at the beginning of the videos because if we don’t people complain that we don’t tell them what our setup is
@@TSFAHTPS no but, it’s going through a lot of equipment and it would be nice to just hear the pedal. Like… straight to amp or even in a line in maybe so we can hear only the pedal 🤷🏻♂️
@@allinoner it’s not really that much stuff…we have an Amp Switcher in the studio to make it easier to switch between amps - but we did tests with and without it and there is really no difference. The speaker thing is also not really a big deal…instead of a ‘real’ speaker we run the Two Notes Captor X as a speaker sim…we did videos where we compare the real speaker and the sim and we got it sounding pretty much identical - and it makes recording more consistent because you don’t have to worry about tiny changes in the mic placement and even things like humidity that can change the way mics sound…I know it may sound like a lot but it’s not really that much stuff…it’s a pretty direct signal
@@TSFAHTPS I’m at the beginning phase with learning. And this seemed a cheap pedal for start and everything else you guys talked about in the video sounded very complex and … “tone modifying “ to sound better 🤷🏻♂️. I’m just curious if this pedal works to be used into the clean channel of my Marshall mg15cfr so I have like a foot switch between clean and od 😳😳🙈
Is the polarity center negative?
Yep...standard Boss style power
I got it now as my first stage! Sounds really amazing when stacked with a klone
Stupid question!
@@MarcusVinicius-lg9oy sorry I aint smart as you
I just dont like the gain structure
i hate all pedals but i cant turn up this plexi for distortion without blowing windows out of the house,this sounds ok for 40 bucks used,what the hell, long as i can play skynyrd, zz top etc etc srv,an foreigner, deep purple.................
TEEEMMMEEEHHHHHHH
...and the lords of the underworld 🤘🏻
Put this befor a Big Muff. You're welcome
Oh...I will try that
I got one with the highest of hopes. IT SUCKS AZZ!
If there is ANY bass content in my signal, it just FARTS out. There is nothing I can do to keep it from farting out. I'm primarily using single coil Strat pickups - not known for their booming lows!
I don't mean it makes a sound I personally don't like... it is a completely unmusical, unusable sound.
I've put an eq pedal before it, and cut ALL of the bass and it doesn't fart out, but the guitar signal sounds like a mosquito, and is useless except for the most special of special effects. Completely unusable as a guitar sound.
I've heard the same complaint from so many users of the Blue Sky, but I see demos where this bass thing doesn't happen... I don't know what is going on.
Are the reviews honest and real?
Or, are there several makes of the Caline Blue Sky, and some are just REALLY cheap knockoffs?
Or, are half of the Caline Blue Skys just broken new in the box?
This was such a disappointment for me, I was literally giddy when I received the package, as I've flown close to a divorce repeatedly buying (affordable/used/cloned) supposedly low gain overdrives... none of which are transparent enough, no massive mid hump, or just a weird high mids harshness that can't be effectively eq'ed out in the mix (let alone live with pedal/amp eq), and low gain enough to get me what I'm looking for, right on the edge of breakup, letting lighter single notes to pass with just a little push, but harder single notes to hairify, and chords to break up a bit but still clear enough to hear each individual note in the chord, and the full tonality of the harmony of the chord itself. I just want to finally stop searching.
I have to say, after 6 years of experience with cheap Chinese knock off guitar pedals... they suck, its not worth it. That's not a philosophical opinion, a political opinion, a moral or ethical opinion, as clearly I'm willing to skip the American pedals that cost as much as a used car and buy the work product of Chinese slaves... this is entirely service of self, it is just a bang for your buck thing, trying to achieve sounds you couldn't otherwise achieve due to lack of funds.
About half of the Chinese pedals have arrived broken in some way, footswitch fails after the tenth time you step on it, the output is intermittent, it arrives as just a brick - won't turn on, or just fails after a couple months of use. That's about half of what I've received. The other half.. I just don't like their sound once the honey moon is over, and I can actually listen and record, and listen to the recordings... there is just a flatness there, or a weird tonal mix that just doesn't work, it gets under my skin.
True, I don't like a lot of pedals... again, not a detached theoretical opinion, I'm not that guy that is all flex, like "all my gain needs to come from my amp"... my amp's clean channel remains clean all the way to police involvement, I can't get any breakup out of it, at all. My amp's crunch channel starts at full tilt, unhinged plexi (but doesn't even sound good like a proper plexi) and almost immediately progresses into caved in, indiscernible mush from there. I won't even mention the lead channel, it is an abomination.
I HAVE to get my gain from pedals. And when younger, in bands, I was way, way into pedals (not that I could afford them then either, broke college student, trying to afford rent near school in the poshest of LA), when there was just Boss and DOD, really, George Tripps was just getting started tweaking pedals in his living room down the street from me. SO, I'm totally pro pedal, and if I could afford $250-300 dollar (and above, honestly) pedals, I'm sure I'd be happy with my pedal sound.
I love the VERY wide spectrum of fuzzes, and just base level sound quality I can get out of my Swollen Pickle, and I love the creepy or beautiful atmospherics I can get out of my EQD Afterneath. But, that is what 'm talking about, those are higher dollar pedals. The interior of the Swollen Pickle is a thing of Beauty! And has a sound quality to match. And the Afterneath is a spendy American made pedal, so it should have a quality sound, and it does, in spades. These are the only two quality pedals I own, that I actually like the sound of.
Okay, I'm going to do it, recount all the Chinese pedals that I've purchased (and that I can recall):
1. Caline Blue Sky: Arrived broken, cannot function with any amount of bass in the signal (I've since read countless accounts of this phenomenon, so its not just luck me).
2. Joyo Ultimate Drive - footswitch went bad about ten presses in. Pedal wouldn't work from there. And while it worked, it was way too gainy -
3. Delamo (I think the brand was called) delay- came missing screws, but it does function... but only as a really, really lofi delay pedal.
3. Little Bear Wooly Mammoth (or whatever it is called, the zvex knock off) - doesn't sound or work like the zvex, can't get the sounds I wanted to achieve that I heard from the zvex. AND it doesn't really work on bass as I intended. I actually use it for guitar. The pots are cheap and will soon start to crackle and introduce noise after only a couple of years, and I don't even use it that much, and I know this because:
4. Little Bear Rat - three rats in one, vintage, turbo, and a modern rat, I believe. I liked the sound of this pedal, I used it with very low distortion, found it to be the most touch sensitive, low gain pedal, surprisingly. And it did good higher gain too, AND three versions of RAT too! I liked this pedal... but the knobs now crackle when turning, and when static, introduce noise, and the output has become intermittent. So, I'm bummed. I've played 2, LITTLE gigs with any of these pedals, btw, no gigs with most of them, I just use them to write and record in the studio, so they're getting no actual use and abuse.
5. Twin Note Pi - a discontinued pedal brand, I think it was a NUX brand, and NUX seems to have blown up and charges a lot for their pedals, so they killed their other brands. This pedal works, I've barely used it, rumored to be a Catlin Bread Abra Cadabra clone, excuse my spelling, but gain at 9 o'clock is the most gain that I can use, its heavy, heavy gain there, beyond it is pitchless near white noise. Maybe it is something metal heads with their metal guitars and metal amps know how to use? I've barely used this pedal, but it does work.
6. Cuvave Fuzz - From 60 Cycle Hum back in the day, it was a really affordable, out of control, belligerent gated fuzz. I loved the sound of it, ordered one... mine is just a flat sounding, boring fuzz, runs at 5v, I believe, doesn't gate at all. Apparently Cuvave took a resistor off the board because people complained it was gating, and I think they figured out how to bias it "properly" rendering it useless to me. Mine still works because I don't use it... because it sounds so bad.
7. MoVall - Falling Star - same as the Delamo Delay, same chip, I'm sure, that karaoke chip, very noisy, super lofi, this delay has a modulation capability which is cool, but the pedal I received is absolutely flat, like each delay repeat is flat, I can feed it punchy, dynamic notes, and the repeats come out totally flat, no impact whatsoever. God, I miss my Boss delays. ALSO, this pedal is unusable, broken, intermittent output, arrived this way. Brand new and broken. Oh, yeah, they got their schematic mixed up, and the modulation time knob is wired backwards, its just a bonus!
8. MoVall - Interplanetary Blues... is that the name? I think it is supposed to be a Marshall Blues Breaker pedal clone, you know where the gain knob controls tone and the tone knob does nothing except a little gain. Had hopes for this one, but it is noisy before you add gain, and there is something just off in the gain it adds, its that harsh thing, in the high mids, its like the pedal is untuned, like a real pedal designer and maker tunes a circuit by ear, trying out different values of components, as well as different manufacturers and technologies of components, to find just the right sound. I don't think that is the case with these Chinese pedal companies, I think they get a circuit diagram of a pedal they want to clone, figure out all the components they can eliminate by cutting corners, like no over voltage/polarity protection, and just slap in whatever the very cheapest components they can source, never minding how they sound, as they don't even know what good guitar tone is, the guitar being a weapon of western imperialists. This pedal suffers from this condition, like it behaves like a Blues Breaker, but doesn't really sound like one. ALSO, even with the original, you have to gain it up pretty far before it opens up, before highs come in, so maybe the circuit is not the best choice for me, looking for very low gain breakup. And I took this pedal off my pedal board because its output was going intermittent. I'm not 100% on this pedal being the problem, as the Little Bear Rat was not on but in the loop and its a known intermittent pedal, but when I removed the Interplanetary Blues, the problem went away, so I'm fairly certain, but I haven't confirmed it 100% by testing, though intermittent electrical problems are a pain in the azz to pin down. I was just so disgusted that I got scammed again, buying two brand new broken Chinese pedals. Most people would say, ah, forget it, its just $60 bucks, but that is meat we won't be buying this month. It hurts.
So, do you know what I'm saying now, why I think, on the balance, these Chinese pedals are not worth it? China certainly is capable of producing quality electronics, and I'm sure they could produce good guitar pedals and at considerably lower prices... but stupid people like me keep buying Chinese garbage because of hope, crushing inflation, and demos like this, so there is no incentive for these companies to produce pedals at a higher tier of sound quality, and reliability.
This would have to be the longest comment I have ever received 😜
I’m really sorry that these pedals don’t seem to work for you - I bought my Pure Sky on eBay, it arrived in one piece and sounds great! We even did a shootout video with it…Pure Sky, MXR Timmy and Vemuram Jan Ray and it held up really well. In saying that…I don’t use it on a really regular basis so I’m not sure how the switch would hold up to regular use?!? I live in a really humid area and all my pedals - from the cheapest to the most expensive and pretty much all my guitar volume and tone pots make scratchy noises after a while - I always have some contact cleaner on hand…that should get rid of that!
I think that one of the main issues with a lot of Chinese made “budget” gear is a lack of quality control. There have been a few comments where people say that their pedal arrived broken…but a lot of those companies are quite good at giving you a new pedal if you have one arriving with issues!!
As for, are demos honest? All I can say is that I demo what’s in front of me…you can hear what it sounds like in the demo…we never “fix” anything in post…and if we get something that’s broken we usually mention that it originally arrived broken - I think that may have only ever happened once?!?
Like I said, I’m very sorry that this happens to you - hopefully you will find something that will work for you soon - keep us posted!
-Gabor
Este pedal es una basura, solo tienes que colocarlo frente a un buen ampli y una buena guitarra y suena metálico y estridente, es una basura digan lo que digan