China's FULLY AUTONOMOUS ROBOT Triggers Fears | Is it REAL?
Vložit
- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- Learn AI With Me:
www.skool.com/natural20/about
Join my community and classroom to learn AI and get ready for the new world.
00:00 Robot Demo Video
02:26 My breakdown
08:08 Helen Toner TED Talk
08:56 AI piloted F-16
10:16 Therminator
12:18 Adobe AI
#ai #openai #llm
BUSINESS, MEDIA & SPONSORSHIPS:
Wes Roth Business @ Gmail . com
wesrothbusiness@gmail.com
Just shoot me an email to the above address.
4:00 Either this is an "artist's representation" of what the robot is seeing or the whole thing is fake, because it misspelled "RED PEN" into "RED PAN", which is something a language model absolutely would not do.
it's also possible that it's a typo made while translating into english
sus
No it's real. It's called YOLO detection. They spelt it wrong when they were custom labelling the data
Completely scripted, and in typical Chinese fashion.. done haphazardly.
"Close enough..Difference not so much", or *Chabuduo* as they say in Mandarin
Google even got caught doing this, it's tele-operated all that shirt fold and showed it right there... it doesn't have that type of capability to understand fabrics like that. China wouldn't lie would they... And you totally can't pre-record a countdown and play it back at a slower speed.
Pretty sure you can just look how the cups behave to determine if it is sped up or not. To me it didn't look like the cups were moving weirdly. Time will tell if any of this was fake or not.
It doesn't understand fabrics (or anything else for that matter). It 'copies' human movements - the human makes (trains the robot to do) the folding moments and the robot simply copies them - it's really not that difficult.
yeah there were numerous screw ups like that which gave the game away... I'm not sure how they think they will make money from PRETENDING to have a product... but well, whatever.
We can simulate fabrics physics easily, I don't think that would be outlandish tbh.
@@mickelodiansurname9578 FYI, there's countless vaporware products that enrich fraudsters on crowd-funded platforms like Patreon, GoFundMe, Kickstarter...
Frankly for Chinese, building Potemkin Villages and knock-offs to lure investors and dominate markets is just business as usual..they say: *"always cheat if you can"*
The song was creepier than the robot.
Definitely AI lyrics. It reminded me that we will be able to tell the difference between real and fake music. Because it sounds artificial
@@user-ty9ho4ct4knot for long…
"0.03 mm" precision is absurd
And clearly not demonstrated in this video.
The start of the robot overlords revolution - The butler did it.
Come for the humanoid, stay for the flamethrower dog.
@3:38 red pen spelled 'red pan' in the box but correctly in the What do you see answer. hmmmmm
Good catch. Seems pretty sus.
it’s also probably translated from chinese but yeah it’s still a weird mistake
Spotted that too. Highly suspicious.
LLMs can correct spelling mistakes easily AND automatically / without being prompted to do so. Keep that in mind.
@@themprsndeveasily seen when talking to LLM chats. Good point for auto correction.
I can give you a video of me shooting a three pointer behind my back… It just may take me six months to get the right footage, but I assure you those 5 seconds will be real!
There were many different set ups and hence many different cuts and, if you think about the logistics, even if the robot could get each set up right on the first take, there would still need to be several sessions of shooting. The table cloth gimmick looks impressive, but all you need to control for is speed and angle, no fancy robotics needed.
Notice how sterile the environment is. Not a continuity error to be seen. Even if this was achieved without teleoperation, perhaps the shirt folding doesn’t generalize to any other fabric types, colors, or sizes. I’m not saying it’s fake, I’m just saying if this was a magic trick I have a pretty good idea of how the magician did it.
I just need it to stand at the sink and do my dishes
That would be far more impressive than a robot doing the same thing.
Love the song! 😂
Seriously, I was like.. robot is ok.. but this song... I love this song 🤣
I love this song. What is the name of it? Is it AI generated?
@@Retrosenescentit is 100000% AI generated
My guess is Suno over Udio
The lyrics are definately from ChatGPT/Suno. A big tell is lyrics like "in x we find y"
I don't want any robot if it's connected to the internet.
This is a concern I have for the future, the thing will inevitably be spying on you and reporting back to the company. They will not be able to restrain themselves.
We had the Cambridge Analytica scandal. Who's to say a chatbot enabled robot won't listen to your private conversations and "nudge" you particular directions. Even though it's suppose to be "your" robot.
Or China...
Agreed. I never let myself grow to rely on a product or service that can be taken away from me on the whims of a corporate marketing decision.
You know, it's time to think about 2 homes, 1 where you have the things you use daily that do not, in any way, make you a target, with robots, smart appliances and your daily routine, and then a small apartment where you bring any girl or do your personal deeds that are private, learning how to mask one's life and become an average joe during the day and yourself at night will be crucial. 😂😢
I go even further, if I can't take away it's power source at night when I sleep, it's a no for me. I'm not sleeping when this thing is awake, it's probably watched all the horrible crime series on TV or read some really crazy stuff. No Way, battery out when I sleep, hopefully that doesn't upset it, you know it will figure out why I do that.
I have my doubts about most chinese companies' claims. They are notoriously dishonest about products in many ways.
LOL we have tons of chinese electronics products that works well, have an unbeatable price and dont have an exact equivalence outside China.
Of course, one should buy in a reasonable site and never (chinese or not) go for the cheapest article.
Perhaps in some countries they are less available, due to politicians, but in most of markets you can buy them , for example in Amazon.
@@karpabla Chinese products are notorious for their bad quality, not to even mention that most technology is usually stolen from western companies that manufacture their products in China. China has a very bad reputation, and it`s why most try to distance themselves and produce somewhere else.
They learned everything they know about hype and vapor-ware from the master, Elon Musk.
As long as they don't have ties to the ccp, there's no reason not to believe it
@@lreadlResurrected ha! I'd say China has been at the fraud / 'Potemkin Village' game before Musk was born... Though indeed, Musk & Xi are a fateful pair!
Welcome to The Chinese Century ! 🎉😷🎉
The 2 Sec T-shirt Fold!
G’day Wes, many thanks for all the work you've put into your videos
The successor to the Therminator will be the Holynator which will make small, perfect round holes in everything - by shooting a gun. However, it will not be considered as a weapon, because using it as a weapon will VIOLATE its terms of service.
May not be live teleoperation but my bet is that the majority of the actions were 'recorded' teleoperation. Many of the movements were too smooth and obvious careful placement of all objects before the activity happens.
Thank you.
How the fuck do people like Helen get into these positions. What has she done that gives her soo much power in these companies/ gov
She’s a woman in tech. That’s all that is needed to rise up.
@@sadscientist9995 So true
It’s not what you do, it’s what you are that matters these days
It's literally a secret cabal, they have connections and aims to help one another in ways comparable to nepotism. Other groups include the Global Leadership Fellows, Global Shapers Community, Young Global Leaders, the Skull and Bone Society, Schwarzman Scholars, Aspen Young Leaders Fellowship, Clinton Global Initiative University, Eisenhower Fellowships, Marshall Memorial Fellowship, and to a lesser degree the Masons.
They all groom people into ideological positions the group wants and for the ideological pure they help plant them in positions of power wealth and influence.
One really shouldn't be allowed to be active in any of the political "AI movements" and then get a job related to it. We need unbiased scientists, not political activists, even if it's seemingly a good cause.
Looool is that Udio in the background?
The thing is, I don't NEED to do my laundry. What I mean by that is: once a week, I can just put my clothesbin in the washer, put a detergent sheet, wash, move to the dryer, dry, and take it out.
I don't even need to fold it, though it's much nicer when folderd
But that won't slide with dishes. I need to put them away. I need to manually move each and every one to the dishwasher. I can't just grab a bunch at once.
And dishes are a daily thing! In a family of four, there's so many dishes.
When it comes to laundry, I only need to worry about my own.
That's why I choose dishes
I'm with you on that one 👍
You could have a full time household servant for like 40k a year, do you think that these clunky looking pieces or shit are going to be able to do that for cheaper?
@@ForageGardener I mean 40k a year is a lot of money (for a brokie like me)
A robot lasts a lot longer (with maintainance) and I doubt they will cost more than 40k when scaled up. Quality will improve with time.
Loving it!
Is it possible to run local LLM with battery? Or is it gonna run with cable?
Extremely Amazing!❤💯👍
pyromaniacs: exist
Company: Thermonator
Forest fires: I'm I a joke to you?
it can probably
charge it self
how long does
the battery last?
Let’s not let the literal Chinese spy robot into our houses, folks. I’d rather wait a year or two for either Atlas 2, Fgure 01 or Optimus.
I only cook for myself, but seeing dishes and laundry being about the same was still surprising to me. I pretty much use the same bowl/plate/glass for every meal, hand wash them in about 1 minute each time, and then put them in the drying rack. Dishes are virtually not a thing. When I cook I usually clean as I go so there are no dishes to be done when the food is done cooking, so if the robot can do THAT then I can see it being useful for cooking+dishes. But laundry---yep.
interesting that it identified the shelf as multiple containers while having a top-down view.. that's quite a world view
Preprogrammed motions/actions. How many takes for each segment of the video?
Basically an infomercial for a widget on QVC.
You should have offered "aerate the wine" as one of the options in your poll.... that pays for itself in a month! :)
Did no one else see Mobile Aloha (I know weird name) but it’s open source project. It literally looks like that but with nicer looking hard ware in fact this looks less impressive because it’s not moving around from room to room. The project even gives a build materials and moves around to do your tasks for 30k.
Good music. Thanks for rhe video too
Sounds like a GrimesAI tune
0:30 Funny how the song keeps calling it "my robot partner, PA, companion" instead of "robot servant"
Thanks Wes.
Let's assume the demo is real. What could be the gaps?
1. *Required computing power:* I wonder how much computing power is needed to generalize tasks. Do you need a supercomputer? This would drive up costs.
2. *Reliability of a robot:* How reliable is a robot that has been generalized for different tasks? Just recall, we don't even have reliable agents from large language models (LLMs). How could this then be possible for real-world agentic behavior by robots?
3. *Related to point 2: Insurance* What kind of insurance would be needed to have such a robot in a household, doing things unsupervised on its own? Remember that complete autonomous driving has still not been achieved.
If such generalization were possible, I assume that such robots would first be introduced in industry, not initially in consumer households. Thus, there is surely time to observe how reliable these promises are.
Although its impressive and looks really clean as a design, especially compared to its competitors, I am surprised by how much the camera seems to wobble when its arms are moving. If its using vision to calculate its movements you would expect the camera to remain as still as possible.
Love the music, didn't finish the vid yet, this is generated music right?
Sounds like Suno generated yeah
i like the thermonator..."you kids get off my lawn..."
If Adobe boasts they don't train on copyrighted work, yet use midjourney images that have infamously been stealing/training from various artists across the internet, is it really copyright free?
Probably "just" Mobile Aloha and some very selective editing. Nothing out of China is as claimed.
I'd say "hey that's not fair" if it weren't for every data point on record
To be fair.. the Tesla bot and Boston dynamic are not far ahead except their mobility waist downwards
@@Larsonaut That's assuming any of the claims in print are accurate. Considering China's honesty record with technology claims, I'm going to say Tesla Bot aren't in any trouble at all.
Why is there a "demo" video anyways? Show me a video where it has like 50 bottles on one side of the table, and it opens all of them one by one demonstrating repeatability.
@@jonp8015 not saying this isn’t faked. Only saying that Tesla and Boston dynamic and others are probably the same or not far ahead with dexterity. Their videos are also staged and with a lot of takes.. Tesla bot was controlled with gloves and it was hidden
If you could build a home computer for AI (LLaMA 70b), work what would you build?
Generative fill shines for creating matt paintings, set extension or object removal.
I am into 3d printing.
here I see a bunch of servo motors, lots of plastic pieces, and a few cameras.
of course, in the back is a really beefy computer to run everything.
the whole thing should be possible at less than 2k$ in 2 years.
maybe a bit more depending on graphics card price.
Does anyone know the name of the song? I can't find it even after searching the lyrics.
4:11 Why does it misspell pen? 🤔
Absolutely brilliant … advances in task training with neural nets should make these bots common with launches in next 12 months
Not even close to launches within the next 12 months. They don't even show how this set of arms moves around the room on its own. I can see Tesla or Boston Dynamics launching a somewhat useful mobile humanoid robot in the next 5 years at a price most people won't be able to afford.
Loved the song 😂
1:58 is the best hahaha
1:05 That music! 😎
I just realized that I responded to the question about which task you choose for a robot to do based on my assessment of which task would be easier for the AI to perform competently, but many may have answered according to which task they would prefer not to do themselves. So the results are likely confounded by the ambiguity of the intent of the decision, and assumptions made concerning efficacy.
i just want to give all these home robot companies a heads up that in europe we usually have houses with multiple floors that are navigated by stairs, and that a robot that can only drive around on flat floors is basically useless for us. in northamerica this might be different, i dont know, but im just saying.
They will evolve to use stairs like dalek 😂
how do we know for sure that is not teleoperated, or even just CGI?
Lol someone play the Terminator theme song over the thermenator
We don't really see it baking anything or building a stool, we just see it doing a final move like tapping the stool. Plus, it obviously can't move, so can only interact with stuff you place in front of it. I suspect these items are at best recorded in memory and it can't use any similar item placed somewhere else... It looks like ROB, the robot that came with the Nintendo Entertainment system, and is probably just as useful...
3:40 how do you cook with that 67% certainty 'red Pan'?
Many Chinese restaurant even in the country side have already robot helping with dishes and customer care, this stuff for sure will be in the house pretty soon this year. The cost of this Atribot I guss should be something about 3000/4000 USD or even less.
Robot dog/flame thrower for removing ice and controlling wild life(?) must be the stupidest idea I’ve ever heard
Legs/wheels/tracks? or does it just stand there while you put everything in front of it??
That robot is so cool, I want one to add to my robot collection 😀
Adobe is releasing brand new features that show what AI was like a year ago
It is real. I just ordered one from Temu.
I suspect some fakery. The best case is that they specifically trained it to do what was in the video. No way that's 0-shot or 1-shot behavior.
cool song !
W vid, i fw the beard btw
They claim it is not operated. All frame edits indicate sampling the most smooth takes.Useful ldlots everywhere, even in AI.
Something we have to be careful with is some of these companies could have someone off screen controlling the robot. IMO I think that is what happen here. Likely they are going after investor money. I hope I'm wrong. But the timeline doesn't make sense
The question is can you tell it to
Do it ? All this could have pre programmed to do in demo mode. So I like the robot but have to see more live tests done to believe it
I guarantee all of that was pre-programmed and it took more than one take to get each shot.
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 i think you should take a look at dr eureka software
What the cost
It stands behind the counter all the time. Can it move? Legs, wheels or tracks? I need to see it navigate messy human space.
They recorded the actions and are playing them back later on the robot.
Lmao that song, obviously a replacement
Nice
11:34 Stuff my nightmares are made of
The flamethrower looks dangerous..... worryingly, especially in the wrong hands.
I always wanted a dragon 😊
I cook my meals, so I have to do the dishes around four times a day, I need to laundry about once a week. Easy decision
Should've used Udio for the robot soundtrack, Suno feels like it's from another era these days. 🤣
My first robot's name will be "Rosie the Robot", my Jetson's future is in the making
A bot like this would be good picking crops, factory packing jobs. I think home use is far off.
It can't be good at picking crops if it has to stay in one position because it has no legs or Wheels. Actual Mobility is a bit important for nearly every task.
That song would make a great mash-up with the “Gremlins” theme
I love how the music is ai to
ngl I wont let some half baked terminator model into my house! xD
not sure if this stuff is really necessary and even practical at home. also I get like Outer Limits and Black Mirror vibes when I see this stuff.
You will when it gets really good
Black mirror and outer limits are fiction? Not real? Why would you believe a fictional story has anything to do with reality….?
Yeah I wouldn't let a Terminator into my house either but this thing washes dishes and folds clothes. Nothing in the entire field of AI so far has made me think that LLMs or robots are dangerous in any way.
Sure you can say, "you never know", but I'm just going by what my eyes see.
Does it walk?
What’s the chance it’s based on the open source project Jim Fan posted about a few months back? Read the paper, I feel “high”
Remove Ice at night 😂😂😂😂😂
Good dog.
Is this song by Suno or Udio?
I want the link to listen to it 😭
Sounds like Udio
I love it
The background looks computer generated. Which makes me wonder if that whole video was first green screened, tasks performed by an actual person, and then using a text prompt overlays the real person with a robot. I'm surprised Wes did not raise this very strong possibility especially given that Wes is the one whose prior videos demonstrated how other Ais are already doing thus. Can't think of the name of the Ai platforms that already do this, can anyone help me out. There's just too much stuff to keep track of its rather maddening.
thermonator makers ( 11:10 ): we've now equipped it with a rocket launcher. bUT iT Is nOt A wEaPoN!!!1
The dishes for sure.Cause i'm not only washing my own dishes.I'm washing the dishes of my whole family.Twice a day.Almost every day.I only do my own laundry and that's once a week.Cooking would be good too.Again i have to cook my own breakfast and dinner everyday.Except the days i order food.
Nice SUNO music.
bro that drop tho 💧
are we not going to talk about that song?!❤
I want one that's looks like xs1 Goliath
Imagine it flicks us off at the end though.
What is that music?!
The race for a super humanoid robot starts 😮
Astribot looks impressive, but in my experience false advertising is very common in marketing of Chinese products. It is either a pretty good robot, or it is fraud, no way to be certain until someone does some independent testing.
Doesn't matter if fake or real. What matters bigly is we can't say for sure
2:28 Teleoperator shown?!
Dude isn't wearing any equipment. Maybe it's doing a dance partner type thing cause dude looks like he is doing dance moves
@@AlexLuthore Or maybe it is teleoperation that doesn't need ping-pong balls as that sort of thing is no longer really necessary, just a camera and current tech AI can turn human movements into movements of a marionette. At any rate, hopefully this only means the dance was "explained" by the robot by "see one do one" and that is it, also that sort of blurs the line of what teleoperation means, and if it can learn from video then it can watch videos of people doing things it searches for itself then emulates. So it really all depends on the details as to what counts, as long as repeated specific calibrated training (like Aloha needs) isn't required it's not a big deal to learn from someone else showing how something is done. Still even nicer if it just knows how without such learning, it would make it more flexible.
I caught that too
Too perfect, it smells of pre-scripting, tele-operation and AI guided have slight jitters to their movement. Is it impossible? No, but I'm skeptical, happy to be wrong but gonna need independent verification.
3:43 Did you notice that "red pan 0.67" is mis-spelled? It's a red *pen* .
I suspect this screen is faked.
And "white containers" + "white container", there's an inconsistency which you would never get with a classification model. The accuracies listed next to each classification are also suspicious.
Yeah this screen is definitely faked as descriptions on visual items don't match their descriptions in the text summary
Looks like typical Chinese English writing. Hehe
Or just a typo while labeling data. I don't think if someone wanted to fake this they would make a mistake on a single screen with 7 labels on it. A mistake like that happens when you're labeling thousands of items, not a few.
@@themprsndev the thing is the summary text and visual screen descriptions would have the EXACT same typo if they were labelled incorrectly, as it's the same thing one marked on visual and other described in text summary. However the text summary doesn't have the typos.