Episode 10 S10 | Ubungoma, Inkolo, Ubunyanga
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- čas přidán 29. 04. 2024
- This time we are joined by Shokho to discuss Ubungoma, Inkolo, Ubunyanga. You don't want to miss this one. Hosted by chef Phathanani Mbatha The sole purpose of this show is to give back!! It is powered by Mothupa Foundation. Host: Phathanani Solutions Visuals: Black Studios Sound: Angu Audio Solutions ➡️Twitter: / munchies_za ➡️Instagram: / munchies_thoughts ➡️Facebook: / munchiesandthoughts ➡️Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@chef_phathana... **************************************************************************** DON'T FORGET TO SUSCRIBE COMMENT SHARE *********************************************************** #munchiesandthoughts #
I'm soooo happy to see this man. So much wisdom. I'm glad he came alone so nobody can disturb him.
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Chef please invite him over again along with Shobelikhulu and Dabuluvalo i want to see something😂😂😂
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Kindly add Romeo too aswell assomblief 😂😂😂 now that would be great
@@gontsepadi8350they will need 5hours 😂
We need people who speak facts like this guy. Not those other guests.
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Yoh please bring him back alone because other people will want to over power him running away from facts and the truth. Beautiful show❤
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Thank you chef. This guy is speaking the truth. As someone who went to thwasa I realised there is lot of demonic things you call into your life. Lucky for me I still can call me name jesus in my dreams and these things disappear. Almost all successful sangomas bathwele these things make you poor until you upgrade more into evil.Lezo zangoma enisagibela nazo amatekisi beya emakhitshini or emafemini. kabathwalanga.
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uMkhulu ndimothulela umnqwazi - he is speaking the truth that is seldom wanted to be heard. Onendlebe uzova....
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They will argue with him alot but mna I like his teaching
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Mkhulu,siyabonga.....🙏😊
Thank you for always inviting people like Mkhulu to share their knowledge and experience 😀
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I just want to commend uChef for being such a beautiful learner that is always attentive, open-minded and respectful. He is a good interviewer because he's always objective and professional. Keep it up Mbatha ❤
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One day ngiyobuya ngizoniphendula nonke imibuzo yenu especially laba abangizwanga kahle
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Buya, sicela ube wedwa
😮it's My First time commenting this Great One is on another level 🙏🏿.
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we need him back please chef
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Great show bring him back we really need his teachings ❤❤❤
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Joooo this guy is so true life is tough outside we should minimize consulting to different Sangomas
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❤❤❤wow so informative so much knowledge and wisdom,thank you chef pls bring him back we need to learn a lot from him.i am tseana so pls let him not speak deep zulu too much for some of us to understand more clearly.Thank you so much chef for doing this for us.🕯🕯🕯🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿.
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Chef please invite him again 🙏 Wow this was good teaching for us.. people like him are very hard to find in this world Thank God
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This was interesting 😊, a different perspective, I like the last part where he explains about dreams and consultations. I don't consult I follow my dreams
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I'm watching and very worried that it's going to end. I wish it was 4 hrs
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I love this guy, I resonate with his teachings... honest and straight to tbe point!!!
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He explained a lot that is going to upset many wallets and purses. Thank you
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another smart dude in the show. wish u can come back again with Shobelkhulu anad Dabuluvalo
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This guy is what we need, the truth is beautiful 😍
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He has answered my question lobhuti so meaning fasting and eating fruit and vegetable coz ziya lapha nazo it means you using amakhabi a clean basically 🙏🙏
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😢😢😢 ngyacela umkhulu abuye azokhuluma nokuhlambulula iyidalwa nokuvala umbango weydalwa okuningi kwethu kuvalwa yilokho
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So informative
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His very wise and touches very sensitive issues and sacred knowledge of ubungoma
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Bring him back plz❤
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Thokozani. I have learned about the importance of discipline. Thank you my Chef 👏👏👏
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Wasphinda futhi Chef, ay kumnandi la! syabonga kakhulu.
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Yoh this is deep😮 i decided not to go anywhere and let Devine Spirit take over cos its a lot🙌 pls bring him back❤
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Big up to this guys nedi angekhe sikwazi ukuhlalisa ikulumo soke yena ukhuluma amaqiniso nedi akakwazi ukucaza but big up to him
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Lol ja neh,inobungozi Le game ungayizeli ngobuso, thumbs up
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I really enjoyed this episode, very informative and an eye opener, please bring him back , I think there is lots more we can learn from him
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Mmmmm very realistic Healer. I think he has a lot of thought to express so sometimes comes off a bit difficult to get coz he's trying to express everything at once. But I love his explanations. Also I like how Chef asks the Healers the same questions repetitively to get the different answers to previous expressed opinion and other Healers explanations previously on the show. Otherwise nje great teachings here. Makwande
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Wow..... Ur opening our eyes thank u
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This guy is throwing bombs 😊
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Yabo phathanani ❤ngyavuma mine you always bring people who have better understanding about our problems 😢❤
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I wish this can be live on tik tok so i can join
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Amazing chef thank you .🎉 Beautiful episode ❤... Please Bring Gogo Dineo... Please bring more audience different universal gift different clan nation..
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Please invite him Chef Phathanani Mbatha
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please bring him back chef with smart sizwe
Being a sangoma is through ukuthwala lol
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Munchies and thoughts the guy has his thoughts
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Chef thank you for this show👏👏👏 please invite umathambo again he's interesting 👏👏👏
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IT looks like he was robbed through the journey of ukuthwasa.secondly he was never been shown by ancestors where he supposed to go,thirdly he didn't even perform rituals like uku hlambulula aba kibo before intwaso. Where on earth you go with your friend ukuyo twasa 🤔. Red flag only here... invite other guest please to hear both side of the story.❤
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Seconded 🙈
What r you trying 🙈
I add, bring him again wit u-Dabula No-Shoba, I want to hear if he will still speak the same way? Hmmmm, I really wonder...?
Some people balungisa their things then when they ok they turn the script and mislead others
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Asbonge
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Bring him back
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yoh hectic and confusing please invite again preferably with uMkhulu shobelikhulu and dabulauvalo 😂😂. this episode highlighted that these alot to learn and one needs to be firm and sure in their belief, so u cant be easily mislead or easily swayed
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Profound 👏
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Siyabonga chef bring him again,we are learning❤❤
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The last part wow 🔥🔥🔥
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Yooh wow uMkhulu Nkululeko uyakhuluma yooh👏👏wow his point of view yinhle iExplanation yakhe shame and that's true inyanga it's very very rare to be found here in South Africa Mina ngivumelana naye yoh such interesting podcast ❤
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Is he on social media
To a certain extent he is alright with ubungoma, however we have izinyanya ezisekukhanyeni, who have ascended and are fully cleansed and they are our guides who we can call upon them for guidance. Xa umuntu ethwasa indeed its giving help to the Dlozis that needs to carry on ngendlela zabo,to maintain that legacy yezithwalo zabo. I however do not believe anything in the Bible, because i know its highly distorted to fit a narrative of indoctrination of black people mostly. Yes there are stories of wisdom in the Bible but bible is equally a lie just like other doctrines.
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I learned something very important from him
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Have you ever been confused by what you thought you knew, angisazi manje ngicela uMkhulu abuye ne zangoma Mkhulu Shoba and Dabula your wisdom is needed here….
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Nami, I'm so confused. I need wine 🍷
Thank you 💕 Nonkululeko
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The guy is bringing things😱🥺
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A lot of things and they will refuse and we all know the truth .Mina I've witness this
Thanks so much guys an take care
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Sanibonani chef, ngisacela ukuthi uke ungibuzele kumkhulu u Romeo,shobelikhulu,nodabuluvalo.ngalento yokuthi uma ngabe kuthiwa kunomcebo okumele udluliselwe kusizukulwane,kusuke kuyini leyo.
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Ubungoma I once said it it's a cult
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This Mkhulu i lost him. I can't put the pieces together. I'm super lost
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Chef cela u gogo Dabuluvalo kunye no shoba😊 kunye naye umathambo 😢❤
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Cela inyani
The microphones here are powerful! Caught the cameraman's fart 100%
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Lena bengiyidinga okwangempela, usevele wayenza yaba lula lento.
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Nonkululeko Thank you Baba.😂🎉🎉
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2nd round chef please, we need Dabuluvalo remember this we not saying they should compete but share this sacred knowledge of the unseen cz he Dabuluvalo always says umoya wedlozi it's not what people think it is
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What's wrong for him sharing his wisdom alone, why must he have principals
Hihi family ,,I'm good ,I'm willing to learn more ,,can u pls invite the guy again but not alone 😂I don't need a debate but explanation from different professor's & thx again for the show,,,byeeee love u all ❤
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Ubab' uMazibuko and this young man can sit on the same table.
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I agree❤
I have deep questions to ask the GUESTS...new and deep questions. T
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wow man , this is to amazing , good teaching man
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He was never called to ubungoma, he got mislead along the way ,he got misdiagnosed not ukuthi ulahle ubungoma, lo wayezothwaliswa wasinda ke ,kwakungamele athwase from the start! He is confused between ukuthwala nobungoma!🎉
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It's understandable that this person holds ubungoma in low regard, given the inherent incompatibility between ubungoma and ubunazaretha, as well as the possibility that his negative stance is informed by his personal experiences, having once practiced ubungoma before embracing ubunazaretha.
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@leratomonatisa8015 Can you share the doctrine yamanazeta if you may. I thought they believe in ancestors as well.
From tiktok
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What's his name on tiktok
Sicela i Topic yokuthwala yodwa
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@@munchiesandthoughts9222 please 🙏 please 🙏 please 🙏
Yooooo I'm so happy it's true ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
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ngaze nga confused shembe !
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Uqale kahle umkhulu wayimosha ngo Jesu
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They scammed this guy.. I feel sorry for him
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He needs to heal he has trauma from scammers
❤❤ I'm so happy but lokisa moo go Jesu mistake ya hau feela ke moo u hlalosang ka Jesu Tse ding ke nnete kaofela
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He makes sense.. 💯👌
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Going to thwasa with a friend, so red flag for me 😅
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13:01 chef the jokes write themselves
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Inkinga umsamo mfwethu
Ash yah kunzima
Yho! Haai ngehlise bozza yam - lack of understanding. But re tla reng cause he is sharring his experiences. :( Ubungoma yiniiiii?
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Awesome 👌
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Genuine questio. Maybe one of the guests can answer this:
I hate how my brain thinks
What if, just what if the burping that sangomas do is a sign of an animal (isilwane) that was once put in the original person who went to go gather more power or sign a bondage contract to be a "superior" healer? Some of these burps sound like roars. Especially if you take into consideration some of the things the guest says at 11:02
Secondly,
Somehow ancestors will punish someone alive for not "taking/accepting" the gift while they did not ask for it and yet turn a blind eye and not punish an aunt who is alive in the family practicing witchcraft or that uncle who went to thwala to mess up UMSAMO and want to miraculously "wait" for them to die or punish their kids who had nothing to do with it. Or you have to now "hlambulula" all your unclean ancestors
Ithonga/idlozi/ abaphathi allow someone to mess up umsamo, they sit there and watch then expect someone who didn't mess it up must come and fix it. Like how?
"uphuma ebukhosini..."
"Your gift doesn't allow you that others to heal you..."
Or "your gift is from ebukhosini..."
If I am from ebukhosini, why am I a healer? Why am I not a leader? Why is my gift not of leadership? Why is it that our gifts are of healing.
A healer/seer worked for the "ubukhosi" (king) and not vice versa. -e.g Shaka had that seer always guiding him. Or is now the *seer* trying to hijack the position of ubukhosi??
I think panels need to go deeper into these topics the same way they explain the other topics.
Why not give me give to run a company/run office/ change the direction of humanity?
The world is evolving around us and we can only become sangomas. Why not idlozi "force" someone to be a president or positions of influence so that black people can progress then to aligning with the "true source"
Surely we are not here to fix umsamo (mistakes that they allowed to happen in the first place) African spirituality can't be just about fixing or being healers. It sounds more like what white people call karma mos.
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@@theobserver7166karmic debt balancing is a small part of it. Some just thwasa in order to rise to greater heights in their Universal God given gifts and never ‘heal’ with herbs post phehlo. I’m sure you’re aware of that. I’m 💯 agree with all your other pertinent points you mentioned. Makwande 👏🏾
Chef, thank you for bringing in new brains to teach us a thing or two. However, it is important to also note that the bashing of ubungoma from people who have jumped from 1 phehlo to another by being directed by people, not badimo, to where they're gift is supposed to be opened up. Such people always fail to take responsibility for going into things that may have not required their attention. He still touches on valuable points but he was never umgoma to begin with and that is okay but the bashing MUST STOP.
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Literature only reveals Yeshua from the age of 30 because in his early years he travels around the world learning. He visits Kermet (Egypt) and travels as far as Tibet where he is learning about spirituality. There is a lot of misconception around the story of Yeshua. Ngiyawuhlonipha umbono wakhe mkhulu kodwa I sense elements of lessons learned from failure. Awukwazi ukuthi uhambe izigodlo ezintathu. Ungikhumbuza omunye umlisa owayesindisiwe, kwathi esaliwe umawengane, gwiqiqi washintsha wahamba abantu abahlolayo. Kwathi kungamusebenzeli lokho gwiqiqi wambona esehamba inkolo yobuNazaretha today the same guy runs a tavern. These are a result of desperation.
2ndly in my Knowledge ukuphahla nokukhuleka into eyodwa. Uma uphahla usuke ukhuleka kulaba abangasekho abakhanyayo ubacela ukuthi bakucelele kuMvelingqangi.
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Kanti ukuthwasa yini Kanti askona yini ukufunda kabanzi ngesphiwo sakho😮
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Ku rough outside there
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This guy is confused bandla shame😂😂😂
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Ngena kwi facebook page lakhe ubone ukuthi abantu abaningi bayasizakala ngaye bazisholo bona imiphumela ukusiza ngisho ningakahlangani face to face
Very confused soul himself. He’s all over the place. As for stories from the bible, I just felt weak and lost 😂😂😂
7:46 this guy sounds like they taught him witchcraft
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Bhuti wam no disrespect but for as long as you are referencing the Bible and those foreign entities forget. See the Bible is not for us even ama narzarethe use a translated version meaning it's not their book
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Ubungoma and Religion is a cult nje kade ngiyitsho lento
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Chef confusing episode. I cant comprehend
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extremely ,sounds misleading as hell!!
@@beyondbusiness101 depends on what you want to believe
isithunywa can not use umthi isithunywa , never
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😂😂😂unumzana has just contradict himself asikho isipho esisuka kumkhulu womkhulu, wonke umntu onesipho sisuka ebantwini abadala , yinto oyinikwa ngabantu abadala , ngoba ukuze isibenze kumele bona by activate time to time , for example umntu onesithunywa like me i don’t own it kodwa this spirit sindimbethe, sisebenzisa umzimba wam as physical transport to do izinto sona esifuna ukuzenza at times , i will dream helping people , fighting for my relatives , ndilwa izinto endingangeni ndawo mna, because of this spirit esindimbetheyo , thank you , asikho sipho that was just given to people by the creator all gift come from spirit in the spirit realm
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Correction mkhulu womkhulu uNkulunkulu abelungu abahluleka ukubiza kahle isiphiwo sisuka Nkulunkulu bese ukuthi abantu abadala abantu bakini abeke baphila kulomhlaba nawe one day isizunkulwane sakho siyothi abantu abadala lapho siyobe sisho kuwe sengiphendula wena manje umuntu wakini akakwazi ukukunika isiphiwo Nkulunkulu ozanesiphiwo wena nje mase ushonile shuthi uyokwazi ukunika muntu wakini isiphiwo
Into eyenzekayo if wena ungasisebenzisanga isiphiwo sakho usaphila emhlabeni uwelela kumzunkulu bese usebenzise isiphiwo sakho wasinikwa Nkulunkulu kuye not kuthi wena wafika naso
Yabo kuthiwa isiphiwo sinikwa abakini ngabe sizenzela umathanda ngoba akukho lapho esinga account khona inkinga lesiphiwo sihamba nama conditions ka Nkulunkulu
Kodwa uyaBhodla naye iDlozi likona kuloya zimba.
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Amen chef. Wrong diagnosis is a problem here and discovering yourself after a long suffering is dangerous 😮
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This guy is promoting shembe and the Bible. We know the Bible we need to know our African Spirituality
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