Ghosts UK vs US : Which Is BETTER?

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    There's 2 different versions of "Ghosts", a story about a woman who can see the eclectic group of ghosts stuck haunting her newly acquired home. The Original UK version, and the US version.
    But who did it better? Let's dive in and fine out!
    #ghosts
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  • @maureenheil5009
    @maureenheil5009 Před 21 dnem +222

    My favorite part of the UK version is the basement ghosts are played by the same actors

    • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
      @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Před 20 dny +16

      Yes that's great!
      My family and I used to do "spot the actor" and see which main character was paired up with which ghost!

    • @dcmastermindfirst9418
      @dcmastermindfirst9418 Před 18 dny +3

      Favourite*

    • @dancingnature
      @dancingnature Před 17 dny +2

      American spelling is favorite

    • @dcmastermindfirst9418
      @dcmastermindfirst9418 Před 17 dny +4

      @@dancingnature Americans spell wrong.
      English is English. Not American.

    • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
      @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Před 16 dny +1

      I'm not picking a side in your Anglosphere arguments, but I justed wanted to point out that
      English is just mangeled Dutch with nearly half French words and a small bit of Norse words and not even a smidge of anything Celtic.
      English is an hilarious abomination of a language with hardly a rule to it due to it's mangled state.

  • @JamesLMason
    @JamesLMason Před měsícem +261

    The thing I like about the UK version is something you saw as a negative. Yes, the ghosts quarrel about little things but if you have an eternity with each other, it's the little things that will start to become the elephant in the room.

    • @bigfrankfraser1391
      @bigfrankfraser1391 Před 20 dny +12

      like how when your dating, you dont know that your partner really likes to eat garlic bread in bed, and after your married you start waking up with crumbs in your nooks and crannies

    • @rickmiles2955
      @rickmiles2955 Před 18 dny +7

      The US version has the quarrelling as well, but it is much more toned down, and not their primary characteristics. Each ghost has elements to grow with and you spend a lot of time rooting for them, as they are just more likable than anyone on the UK version. And Mike specifically on the UK version was terrible, just an unlikable idiot, Jay is so much more upbeat and supportive and a much better character.

    • @bigfrankfraser1391
      @bigfrankfraser1391 Před 18 dny +9

      @@rickmiles2955 you just explained why the uk is better, why should you root for them, its a comedy, not a drama, rooting for there growth takes away from the humour, americans just dont understand how to do humour right

    • @rickmiles2955
      @rickmiles2955 Před 18 dny +3

      @@bigfrankfraser1391 Again, I generally prefer the UK versions of almost everything. This is one where the Brits got it wrong, which is a shame.

    • @JamesLMason
      @JamesLMason Před 18 dny +5

      @@rickmiles2955 I find the UK versions endearing in their imperfections and general negative traits. It makes any time that they genuinely do something redeemable so much stronger
      I do like the American version but the characters can be a bit too bouncy and upbeat for my tastes. I think that the two leads are comparably weak.
      Having said that however, I think that is what makes the US remake worthwhile. If it tried to hit all the same notes, it would be a copy for the sake of being a copy. Instead, it took what was an excellent premise and tailored it to an American audience. Now everyone wins. I'm also sure that there will be proponents of both from opposite sides of the pond. As it is,, everyone wins and neither detracts from the other.; pick your poison.

  • @sergioandrade8735
    @sergioandrade8735 Před měsícem +223

    The UK cast before Ghosts worked on a sketch comedy show called Horrible Histories which had a lot of broad comedy bits. One of their regular bits was called "Stupid Deaths" which was parodied in one of the US episodes.

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 Před 26 dny +19

      In which one of the original Horrible Histories cast played an actor portraying Pete - it was meta and wonderful!

    • @veronicaaccouche1478
      @veronicaaccouche1478 Před 20 dny +6

      @@lenawagenfuehr53 Most of the writers from Ghosts UK were in Horrible Histories. Julian was Death, Robin was a King. Thomas and has played Shakespeare in a film the cast wrote called Bill. Lady Fanny played Boudica celt warrior that took on the Roman army. Pat played King George IV and Mozart.

    • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
      @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Před 20 dny +9

      I loved Horrible Histories as a kid!
      It made watching Ghosts even more awesome!
      (And that's with only half remembering it.)

    • @user-xd1cm9vu9s
      @user-xd1cm9vu9s Před 20 dny +5

      i think this is why it worked so well. we all already saw them take on these roles, so we knew that they’d be perfect

    • @foxesofautumn
      @foxesofautumn Před 17 dny +8

      Yeah, also explains why there wasn’t much variation in the ages of the UK ghosts. The cast was already a team who had worked together for years and were of a similar age (Monty Python would be the best comparison)

  • @PolyChromium
    @PolyChromium Před 2 měsíci +225

    As someone who’s only seen the UK version, I really love the contradictions each character has. I like the captain’s stern demeanour and his soft interior, or Julian’s selfishness mixed with a need to be liked. Robin especially (my favourite character) is wise and intelligent and eager to learn, but he’s also still dumb and easy to scare (even though objectively he is the second scariest ghost).

    • @srstacy
      @srstacy Před 28 dny +6

      Who's the scariest, the singing plague girl?

    • @PolyChromium
      @PolyChromium Před 28 dny +10

      @@srstacy Thomas Thorne, the creepy poet with no respect for boundaries (emotional or physical), and has literal withdrawal symptoms when he doesn’t heavy-handedly flirt with Alison, who is a married woman who has told him repeatedly over and over again that she is not interested in him that way and that she doesn’t want him acting like that.

    • @MeShellyShellShell
      @MeShellyShellShell Před 7 dny +4

      Don’t bother with the American version and I say that as an American. It’s okay I guess but not nearly as good as the UK version.

  • @theaidan3507
    @theaidan3507 Před 2 měsíci +309

    "This is shit and we're all stuck together in this shit" is probably the best way to describe people's attitude to everything in the UK lol

    • @johnlbirch
      @johnlbirch Před 18 dny +16

      It is also the fundamental core trope behind almost all British comedy!

    • @thomasdevine867
      @thomasdevine867 Před 5 dny +2

      ​@johnlbirch Different lives create different art. The Class system is a vast thing in British thought, America prefers to see itself as class free. Thus the tiny class difference between Lister and Rimmer on RED DWARF generates vast amounts of comedy. It is differences in up bringing and values that generates the comedy between Thurston Howl and Gilligan. And you need a class difference as vast as that between a working class man and an old money multimillionaire to run class comedy in America.
      The two shows have to take different paths in order to function at all.

    • @poseidonskidfromfrance
      @poseidonskidfromfrance Před dnem

      And occasionally it turns into not shit which is actually pretty awesome and better than america could ever hope to be, then it returns to shit.”

    • @thomasdevine867
      @thomasdevine867 Před dnem

      @@poseidonskidfromfrance Don't be a creepy little snob. Just because you were taught to hate Americans and Jews doesn't make bigotry virtuous or wise. Different doesn't equal inferior.

  • @humanintelegence4695
    @humanintelegence4695 Před 2 měsíci +208

    i feel like the UK's Alison is more appealing to me because of her reaction and irritation. Imagining having to live with ten other people all of a sudden, it would suck. I feel like it also makes her relationships with the ghosts more believable since she isn't instantly befriending them. Also, i prefer the UK acting wise.

    • @thistley_42
      @thistley_42 Před 21 dnem +30

      Yes, the big arc of the UK one is Alison slowly growing to really care about and appreciate the ghosts over time.

    • @kaylahensley1581
      @kaylahensley1581 Před 21 dnem +25

      Samantha is waaaaayyyyyy too accommodating with the ghosts. If she raises her kids that way they will be so obnoxious.

    • @MsKaz1000
      @MsKaz1000 Před 9 dny

      @@thistley_42 Like the family she always wanted growing up, Kitty was so the sister she always wanted and vice versa

  • @dumdum6280
    @dumdum6280 Před měsícem +106

    Robin from the UK version is awesome.

    • @kelhapam
      @kelhapam Před 20 dny +4

      Love Robin’s scene with Pat talking about death early in the first season.

    • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
      @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Před 20 dny +7

      Robin is the absolute best!
      He's so funny and nice. But also has one of the deepest feelings.
      He looks simple and dimwitted on the outside, but he's so smart and complex on the inside.
      Alison even says that directly to him right as he gets distracted by a bunny methinks.

    • @marionbaggins
      @marionbaggins Před 19 dny +4

      Robin is one of my Families FAVS, he is the Oldest Ghost and Wisest/Smartest Ghost!!!

    • @jamesscott305
      @jamesscott305 Před 9 dny +3

      #justiceforrobin

    • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
      @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Před 8 dny +2

      @@jamesscott305 #justiceforrobin!

  • @obiwan-in-a-pudding2909
    @obiwan-in-a-pudding2909 Před 21 dnem +72

    Actually Thomas died in in 1824. It is literally stated in the show. Specifically, Oct 10th 1824.
    Also, the headless tudor noble has a name, he's Sir Humphrey Bone and he's my 2nd favourite character.

    • @tonymyers733
      @tonymyers733 Před 10 dny +1

      Hey thanks for that I've been watching all the episodes I can here in America and thanks for that info Thomas the great poet

    • @MsKaz1000
      @MsKaz1000 Před 9 dny +2

      Sir Humphreys's character is a lot bigger in the UK version the rocker biker is nearly non-existent in the US version I guess mainly because he was passing through and was not a past owner of the house

    • @ladylilith06
      @ladylilith06 Před 3 dny

      ​@@MsKaz1000 nope hetty put his head in a tree and ppl forgot about him, no really it's an episode.

  • @djlads
    @djlads Před 18 dny +36

    The UK used an actual mansion, throughout. The US is just a stage, they only filmed the pilot in a mansion.

    • @chrisdale5443
      @chrisdale5443 Před 10 dny +4

      and old houses had smaller rooms a Victorian bedroom in a large house would barely have room for a modern double bed but it would have an adjoining dressing room.

    • @djlads
      @djlads Před 10 dny +1

      @@chrisdale5443 Exactly

    • @imfpredicts
      @imfpredicts Před 4 dny +1

      A mansion acquired by its owner in a similar fashion to the story in the show.

  • @maboelnreads
    @maboelnreads Před 11 dny +11

    You complain that the mansion characters in the UK are mostly aristocrats. That would be because in the UK only aristocrats or their servants would have lived in mansions. So it makes a lot more sense than a bunch of random characters.

  • @richardharoldmeddows728
    @richardharoldmeddows728 Před 18 dny +55

    I think what I love about UK Ghosts is that it’s different. Obviously the style of humour is undoubtedly British but it just feels unique. With US Ghosts it just feels like any other American sitcom

  • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
    @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Před 20 dny +37

    As a Dutch half-Irishman (just zo yous know I don't have any sort of stake in this) I watched UK Ghosts with my family. Absolutely loved it! The ending could have been better, but it was great! We tried watching the US version, but we couldn't even get through five minutes.
    The main appeal of UK Ghosts is that we learn more about the characters as the show goes on. Some things aren't even revealed until some of the last episodes! But the US version just.... Tells you EVERYTHING in the first five minutes!
    The key difference is show versus tell.
    UK Ghosts SHOWS.
    The US version TELLS.
    It just degrades the story and make everything feel clunky and forced. I don't like it at all.

    • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
      @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Před 20 dny +4

      After watching the video I've noticed that a lot of the things you didn't like about the UK Ghosts are exactly some of the things I preferred.
      Like for instance a large part of the UK Ghosts is figuring out how to live together (which is why that annoyance is an important plot for the first episode. It shows the ghost are actually not that scary and most importantly that they have issues WITHOUT ALLISON THERE. Such things just couldn't be in anything but the very first episode). It just makes more sense to me that that's something which would take time. Which the UK Ghosts portray very well.
      I also prefer Robin. You're not really supposed to laugh every time he speaks caveman like, only occasionally. He's actually really smart, a very good chess player. But that's countered with him getting easily distracted by things (like bunnies or spiders, which makes sense), not quite understanding such modern things, and him saying things in caveman talk. Things like dadonka dadonka when moving a chess piece.
      He, and the other UK ghosts, have lots of secretly hidden layers to their character you just won't see in the first couple episodes.
      Also, the mansions rooms and hallways were quite regularly sized. I live in a fairly modern house compared to some (1891, the town up the road has houses from before the Netherlands existed as a country. AKA, the 1600dreds) and they've got slightly bigger hallways there. I don't know about American houses, but the size makes sense.
      So I don't know whether the it comes down to culture, which we've seen first or simple presence. But these are a couple reasons why I like the UK Ghosts.
      I'll still probably watch some more US Ghosts though, just to check if it's truly as bad as I dread it may be (usually those shows are way worse and sometimes even ruin the original). Hopefully not.

    • @BeansMcGee2421
      @BeansMcGee2421 Před 15 dny +1

      @@BasicallyBaconSandvichIVthe more deep you get into the US version of Ghosts a bunch of new cans of worms open up. I genuinely think it’s hilarious. My husband and I watch it every time it airs on television. I know how they basically reveal everything (like how they passed away) in the first episode but the more you go into the show it reveals a lot about their past.

    • @perpetuasomnium8173
      @perpetuasomnium8173 Před 14 dny +3

      Exactly!! Although, one “show” the American did SUPER well was finding out how Hetty died

  • @TheMadMaple
    @TheMadMaple Před měsícem +89

    I like both shows pretty much equally. The real difference between them is that they're both made for different audiences. British comedies tend to have a drier wit while American ones tend to favour broader comedy, and British characters often have rougher edges that would get rounded off in the States. They both work in their own ways.
    And Robin is frikkin' adorable.

    • @aesir2634
      @aesir2634 Před 20 dny +10

      Yeah, the difference in humour is a big reason why I prefer the UK version. The US version is entertaining in its own way but the humour on a lot of American sitcoms, this one included, tends to be too "in your face" for my liking.

    • @dcmastermindfirst9418
      @dcmastermindfirst9418 Před 18 dny

      Please the English versions are much better.
      What America did to the Inbetweeners was a fukin crime!
      That pilot was garbage.

    • @dcmastermindfirst9418
      @dcmastermindfirst9418 Před 18 dny

      ​@@aesir2634exactly.
      American humour is just dumb.
      British humour requires you to have a brain.

  • @marcotellez603
    @marcotellez603 Před 25 dny +37

    I remember watching a video talking about the different humor styles of the UK and US, primarily using the Office for comparison. It seems that UK humor is tailored for cynicism, while US humor has a more lighthearted approach, at least for television

  • @HiyaImDelta
    @HiyaImDelta Před 2 měsíci +74

    So I've watched the entirety of the UK Ghosts, and it's one of my favourite shows ever. I remember when my parents and I watched it for the first time, we kept having to pause because we were laughing so much we couldn't breathe. Plus, I grew up with the Ghosts UK cast, since I religiously watched Horrible Histories as a kid.
    I think it's kind of impossible to determine which is "better", since aside from the premise, they each have completely different styles of comedy/approach's to the situation, which is exactly what you highlighted. So it's entirely down to personal preference: the pessimism of the UK, or the optimism of the US. I've never watched Ghosts US, and I don't think I ever will, but I can definitely see why you would prefer it. What I will say, is that when it comes to the pessimism of the UK version, I think it helps the characters dynamics.
    "This is shit and we're all stuck together in this shit", is absolutely true, but it means that the characters are forced to put up with the situation, which leads them to develop closer connections and relationships. Rather than the immediate positivity in the US version, Alison slowly builds relationships with the ghosts, which I really like. They make the best out of a mediocre situation, and all the ghosts show this underlying kindness, connection and appreciation for each other, that aren't initially visible. They're a family that's forced to live together constantly, so of course they're going to get annoyed with each time to time, but they still appreciate each other.
    I'm obviously biased, but if you're up for it, I would recommend giving the UK version another shot, since it can be very emotional and sweet when it needs to be. Also, in regards to Julian pushing Alison out of the window, yes, it definitely makes him look bad, and it does get brought up again, since he's the reason Alison has to live with seeing ghosts.

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 Před 26 dny +10

      Julian has quite a redemption arc. It wasn't until the Button House Archives (audiobook) post series that he really completed his trip.

    • @HiyaImDelta
      @HiyaImDelta Před 25 dny +4

      @@lenawagenfuehr53 definitely, I loved how they brought it back! And all the characters have little arcs, but I think Julian’s is the most obvious/apparent. I haven’t read the Button House Archive book yet either but I’d love to it looks so funny 😭😭

    • @DoctorJedi2742
      @DoctorJedi2742 Před 4 dny +1

      hell the finale pre christmas special is literally alison discovering julian's involvement and the ramifications

  • @mogstar8330
    @mogstar8330 Před 2 měsíci +164

    I think the tone difference is mainly a cultural thing , I’m a big fan of BBC Ghosts, but I find the American version almost unwatchable. Comedy in the US and the UK can be really different and I think cynicism might just gel better with people in the uk. Also half the cast of Ghosts were the cast of a really iconic childrens show , so there all literally icons if you grew up in the 2000s or 2010s

    • @paulashe61
      @paulashe61 Před měsícem +10

      The USA one has some good points because the original writers were taken on board. And the actors turn up.

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 Před 26 dny +6

      And the actors are not all American either. This stupid snobbery of "British humour is just perfect" needs to stop. You do know Benny Hill is British, right?

    • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
      @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Před 20 dny +2

      I've had the exact same experience!
      Must be cultural proximity. With perhaps a smidgen of 700 years.
      I still had a couple "oh that's so British" moments (Alison pretending to be a Ghosts etc.), but those were honestly handled quite well, so I while they aren't my favorite moments, it's still enjoyable.

    • @dcmastermindfirst9418
      @dcmastermindfirst9418 Před 18 dny

      American comedy is fukin garbage.
      The British will always reign supreme

    • @dcmastermindfirst9418
      @dcmastermindfirst9418 Před 18 dny +8

      ​​@@lenawagenfuehr53Facts hurt mate.
      British comics are just better. The humour is better! The jokes are just all around better.
      American comedy is stupid and predictable.
      The British just own it.
      Absolutely no argument
      And what's wrong with Hill?.

  • @populuxe1
    @populuxe1 Před 17 dny +15

    British comedies don't have the need for characters to be likeable as a basic premise. The UK version works like Sartre's "Huis Clos" - they're housemates rather than friends, and they've been trapped together for centuries. It's because of their bad character traits that they can't move on, and they only start to evolve because they are interacting with a living person and change is introduced into the house. That allows for some really poignant moments.
    The US version is ok, but the idea that one is better than the other is a really bad place to start from. They are just different and taste is subjective.

  • @samwitherington8202
    @samwitherington8202 Před 16 dny +35

    This surprised me. As a Brit, I watched the whole of UK Ghosts (one of my favourite shows ever) before the US one, and with the US one, I genuinely hated the first few episodes so much I stopped watching. I think there's bias, of course, I'd seen the UK one, so I was seeing a copy of my fav show, but I think the same would have happened had I never watched the UK show.
    The issues I had with the US one are simple. Subtlety and variation. In the UK, the Ghosts all kind of hate each other, and their antics constantly mess up Allison and Mikes lives in a chaotic British manor, even the ones trying to help. However, slowly, we see them caring for each other and the whole group become a family. It feels more real, as anyone forced in Lockdown with the family can tell you, you all hate each other, but still care for one another. The cynicism makes the emotional, softer moments hit harder. The US one, however, seemed to have everybody be cool with each other and the couple fairly quickly, which takes away the development like that, and the show removes almost any subtleties. Each ghost just says their key backstory immediately, and we don't learn slowly and get to know them, we just are told everything straight up. The relentlessly positive attitude makes less interesting and has less subtle character work, which is meant to be where the comedy comes from.
    The other thing is variation. The US Ghosts had a chance to do something unique, tapping into the pool of their own history to make their ghosts. What they instead did was mostly copy the UK ghosts, who were all a good reflection of the Unique UK history, allowing different time periods to interact and learn from each other with different traditions and opinions (a caveman VS Victorian noble VS Witch hunt era). The US one makes two mistakes. First, most of the ghosts are from the 1900s. Whilst that time changes a lot, not as much as, say 1400s to 2010s, theres less unique outlooks. Second, it seems more focused on parallels to UK rather than making unique ghosts. You could have had, rather than another scout ghost, a Spanish sailor who was one of the first to enter the US, then died when he was shot with an arrow by a Native American (giving a rivarly with the other Native American, who could now be from like the 1000s, seeing his land be slowly overtaken, making him more bitter). Rather then another upper class Victorian lady, make a Pilgrim who is heavily Puritan. Rather than another modern day scumbag, have a Charming Wild West Outlaw who died in a gunfight (though in a more embarrassing way he would be willing to admit) and have the most recently dead one by from the 60s to add variation from both the UK and each other. My point is, too many ghosts from the US were to similar to the UK, and didn't take advantage of their own history.
    The other US issue I had was that I didn't think it was funny, but thats a me thing.

  • @ryukiravenwing8530
    @ryukiravenwing8530 Před 20 dny +30

    I have a soft spot for Horrible Histories, and that cast is so funny together. So UK version wins for me.

    • @ladypeahen8829
      @ladypeahen8829 Před 15 dny +1

      That! The UK Ghost cast works as a team and that can´t be replicated.

  • @Happygorgon
    @Happygorgon Před 2 měsíci +130

    As a native Brit who's seen all of the UK Ghosts and loved it, I gotta say I couldn't get past three episodes of the American version.
    I get that there is 100% culture differences in comedy, and there are some American Comedies I love, Schitt's Creek being a personal favourite. But the American version felt so bubbly and almost sickeningly sweet to me. A lot of the American Ghosts felt too hyper and cheerful, too colourful for a show meant to be about, y'know, Ghosts. I do love some of them like the Viking, the Storyteller and the Speakeasy Singer, but the rest felt like they were sprinting to get a laugh out of you, and came across way more as actors or kids in a school play rather than characters.
    The American version also felt, too clean for lack of a better word. With UK Allison we see her panic and struggle and properly get emotional over her situation, while also having a much wider range of emotions. While the American Samantha always looked like she was in a commercial for a brand of furniture. Allison feels like she could properly ugly cry when something went wrong and I just don't buy anything from Samantha when she say's she's sad.
    The outfits and the houses of the American one felt way more like a set, their clothes all looked too nice and colourful, which is fine but again, makes them feel way more like costumes. The UK House felt like it was falling apart, that one wrong step could snap the whole place apart. You could buy that someone died in that house, and the body was still probably in there somewhere.
    Team GB also had the advantage of a team who worked on Horrible Histories, a historical comedy show based on the children's book for years known for it's historical accuracy. So the cast and crew knew what sort of styles each ghost should have, which helps to give them more texture to their looks. The mud on Robin, the Soot on Mary and even the drabness of Fanny's old outfits. And I just can't imagine any of that on the American Ghosts.
    I also think that the UK situation story leads to higher highs down the line. Because the ghosts take on an almost Adversarial Role in the start and the Couple feel like they're trapped in their situation. When they finally do start opening up to each other, and eventually enjoying their time together it feels more impactful. It's a relationship that had to be worked on, where compromises had to be made and feels more real.
    When you do reach those proper tear jerking moments of the characters coming to terms with their lives, how they died and who they left behind, it feels more like their minds have been changed. And when they can act sillier and happy it hurts all the more. Any Christmas Episode is a great example of this but I got properly teary with the Wedding Episode in the UK.
    With the American Ghosts, it felt like they just immediately jumped onto liking the couple, they immediately started to reveal their backstories and personalities. I'm sure they have cooler backstories and secrets to reveal down the line but I don't know where you could go emotionally from that show. I'd love to see what they could do, but honestly just the way that they delivered jokes felt like I was trapped at a friends Improv group and I couldn't leave.
    Like, Flower has a really interesting backstory, and is one you could never do here in the UK, I'd love to know more about her past, but they spoiled all the best reveals already. We know she was a hippie who turned cultist who turned bank robber. Imagine if they had just told us she was a Hippie and then we reveal more and more of her past over time. Really sink the knife with these revelations about what kind of life she had. But now, to me it feels like you've wasted that dramatic potential.
    I'm super glad you enjoyed it, and that Ghosts could make it's way to the Americas, and I would genuinely love to know more about some of the ghosts and their backstories. But man I just couldn't get past that 3rd episode. it's absolutely a me thing though, and would love to hear more about how the show changes, because I ain't watching it again.
    Also, if you haven't seen it yet, highly recommend Stag. It's a Mini Horror Comedy Slasher staring Pat's actor as the main protagonist. When he gets invited to join in a literal Stag Do (British version of a Bachelor Party) in the Scottish Highlands with his sister's fiancé and his mates. They go up on a planned hunting trip trying to Bag a Red Deer, but find themselves being hunted down one by one. it's seriously tense at times and utterly amazing.
    www.amazon.co.uk/Stag/dp/B01CF2LLQW

    • @afosbinder96
      @afosbinder96 Před 2 měsíci +26

      I absolutely agree on all accounts! I saw the UK version first and I definitely preferred it to the US. I felt like the US version was overacted and I didn't feel any connection with the characters. I started watching Ghosts US and couldn't get past two episodes before I just started rewatching Ghosts UK again instead. (And it's not just you as a native Brit, I'm from Nebraska and prefer the UK version)

    • @tori1384
      @tori1384 Před měsícem +9

      schists creek is Canadian

    • @user-yk2zb6nm7o
      @user-yk2zb6nm7o Před měsícem +6

      That is so funny, I tried the UK version and while I made it through 3 episodes, I struggled to do that. It is just sooooo boring and unfunny.

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 Před 26 dny

      TL;DR

    • @anwenpoole2115
      @anwenpoole2115 Před 26 dny +11

      Was going to write something similar, but think you covered it.
      I think it boils down to what you get used to on TV. I found the US version very saccharin-sweet, like Friends, Bones, .... Assuming a lot of Americans identify with how the Couple reacts.
      But the 23:32 UK version seemed more believable because I was bought up watching UK TV . I feel this is how a lot of UK people would react realistically and the history of the Ghosts seem like they could be real stories - although stereotyped - not many British people would think it odd for a politician to be so unscrupulous and die in those type of circumstances 🤣
      I think we are all likely biased. I couldn't get through more than 2 US episodes, sorry.

  • @lailadobb9221
    @lailadobb9221 Před 20 dny +20

    Something to note: English country houses vary in size depending on heritage, time period, wealth, funding, etc. West Horsley Place (Button House) is on the smaller size compared to similar grand estates such as Calke Abbey and Packwood House (estates owned by lower nobility); this is another reason why the concept just does not translate well for American television in my opinion: the whole idea of nobility and country estates and extreme class divisions (due to that), historical landmarks and its ghost stories, etc. is such a BRITISH concept - I have been to pubs that are older than America; my family's house is older than America by roughly thirty years (although it has been numerously reinvented)!
    It makes sense that these ghosts would be stuck in their ways and bicker and be inconsiderate (horrible to an extent) people; it makes no sense to me that the American ghosts have literally no distinction of society, class, politics despite a few jokes about living in different time periods. I mean, why would a ghost from The American Revolutionary War be so openly flamboyant and "feminine" (according to the ideals of his society) with barely any shame or firm religious beliefs? I know you saw this as a negative but the ghosts need to be on some level unlikable to help create conflict and later relatability/comfort...I would rather they be horrible, dramatic, petty, selfish (dead) people than the sanatisted, friendly, harmless ghosts we see in the US adaptation.
    Sorry for the rant, I just needed to get it out of my system (although I have more to say on the matter; both good and bad, if you or anyone else would like to discuss the topic further!)

    • @UtamagUta
      @UtamagUta Před 2 dny +2

      yeah, or why native American who died several centuries before first colonists can speak fluent English?

    • @lailadobb9221
      @lailadobb9221 Před 2 dny +1

      @@UtamagUta Exactly, and even if one of the Ghosts tried to teach him, why would either of them bother?

    • @UtamagUta
      @UtamagUta Před dnem

      @@lailadobb9221 I'm also perplexed how would teaching/learning work for an entity without brains, but I might be overthinking it. Also forgot about the viking dude. how on earth can he speak English?

    • @lailadobb9221
      @lailadobb9221 Před dnem

      @@UtamagUta I mean in the BBC Ghosts' "Robin" teaches Humphrey French; additionally, we need brains to function; to walk, to talk, to think, etc. We know they don't have human limbs anymore (Captain never being able to beat his record), but they must have some sort of Ghost brain, perhaps? Also about the Viking guy, it depends on when he died and in what location, for there is evidence to suggest that some Vikings would have been able to speak English (albeit Old English). However, the (one of the) only groups of Vikings to arrive at "North America"/Native American Tribes was Leif Eriksson (Second Son of Erik The Red; founder of Greenland) and his tribe in Greenland, yet only for the winter in 1002 before returning to Greenland...so its highly unlikely that the Viking even died in America! He was struck by lightning in 1007 and from a little bit of research (Vikings are not my area of expertise; The Great Witch Hunts (1480 - 1750) are.), the only Nordic settlers in North America (particularly the Atlantic Coast and Maine) were spairse and barely lasted beyond the mid-11th century. The only Norse group of any confirmed, archived relevance towards settlement was 'L'Anse aux Meadows' IN CANADA!
      I don't know why I am so fixatedly annoyed by this awful disgrace of a sitcom/remake (similar in vain of the new "Horrible Histories').

  • @fitzytail896
    @fitzytail896 Před 2 měsíci +29

    I love both versions tbh as they're both the same and different at the same time

  • @emectric1455
    @emectric1455 Před 2 měsíci +20

    I know the UK had the cast of horrible histories, and that's all I know

    • @throughrockmetal6935
      @throughrockmetal6935 Před 2 měsíci +5

      I have watched neither, but that alone makes it automatically superior to the US version.

    • @chrisleneil
      @chrisleneil Před 28 dny +4

      They (the 6 Idiots, a fan nickname) also did a film called ‘Bill’ and a show ‘Yonderland’ in between HH & Ghosts!

    • @buffyshaw3326
      @buffyshaw3326 Před 18 dny +1

      The UK cast also wrote ghosts, it was their concept. But it definitely comes down to sense of humour. I loved the UK version but couldn’t get on with the US version at all, it was all to upbeat and bubbly, for a show that is about a woman who al ostensibly dies and can then see ghosts, it was all a bit much for me personally.

  • @A_Mini_A
    @A_Mini_A Před 24 dny +36

    I have watched all of the BBC version and 2 seasons of the CBS version, and I have to say I have a clear preference towards the UK’s. I might be a little bias considering I am British myself and I have grown up with these actors from Horrible Histories. (I am just going through the video and adding my own comment onto your opinion)
    - Captain and Isaac. I’m glad Isaac is from the Revolutionary Wars (is that it? I don’t know American history). It’s a change that allows them to act differently. I much prefer the way they deal with The Captain’s sexuality than Isaac’s. The Captain really feels like a person who has had to hide his identity his whole life, while Isaac acts like your stereotype of gay people.
    - Yeah, Pat and Pete are very similar. I like them both, but I kind of wish they changed Pete up a little.
    - Fanny and Hetty. I like how both of them change over the show and adapt to modern day life. I don’t mind that Fanny makes more comments than Hetty as I feel like it works for both of them. I enjoy that Hetty dislikes the Irish as it was a fun gag throughout. Also, Fanny being called Fanny was a great choice by the team as it gets a lot of jokes! (“Oh no! Fanny’s exposed”)
    - Robin and Thorfin. I enjoy their personalities and differences. I don’t find Robin’s voice funny but that doesn’t take away from his character.
    - Julian and Trevor. I much prefer Julian over Trevor! Julian being corrupt is what makes him funny and I found Trevor a little bit too nice.
    - Thomas. I’m glad they didn’t translate how horny he is over because I don’t think it would work in the US version. His humour comes from how quick he falls in love with people, but it is done in a way that I borderline creepy and funny. I don’t think the US version would be able to pull it off.
    - Kitty is lovely. I enjoy how her naivety is a contrast to a lot of the other ghosts.
    - Mary is such a fun character. The way she speaks adds a lot of humour! (She started the whole “Sucked off” joke)
    - I enjoy how the UK version sticks to the same characters as it makes the characters feel trapped. They barely add ghost character. The only one I can think of is Maddocks, and I like that they do this because it is believable that he has been there for years and he isn’t in the house.
    - Alberta’s fun. I think the mystery around her death is great and it’s frustrating that they didn’t do it with many of the other characters. The US version gives away too many of their deaths right away and it’s boring! (Don’t know the quote but it felt like, “I’m Thorfin and I can control lights because I was hit my lightning.”) We didn’t know The Captain or Kitty’s death till series 5. However, I thought the episode that revealed her death was extremely disappointing!
    - Sassapis my beloved! My favourite character of the bunch. I love his humour and it’s much nicer to watch compared to the others. I feel like his character is the most like the BBC characters.
    - Flower. I like the idea. She just has one joke though and it gets so boring!
    - What was the point of having the headless ghost in CBS? I don’t even remember his name and I wouldn’t be surprising if the show doesn’t either. He feels pointless compared to Humphrey, who is a much more developed character.
    - I enjoy the BBC characters so much more because they have a darker humour. The US’s characters’ humour is barely there and they can be quite unbearable to watch at times. They make jokes that have been really dumbed down for their audience. I think the age is worse in the US as the US just doesn’t have as much history. Take the 20th century. In the UK, you have Fanny, The Captain, Pat, and Julian. In the US, you have Alberta, headless guy, Flower, Pete, dead prom girl, and Trevor. There just feels like too many of their eras overlap.
    - Yeah. Alison and Mike are far more bearable than Sam and Jay. Sam is so frustrating to watch! I hate how Sam and Jay are financially okay. They say they are struggling, but that never really comes across. So much of the plot from Alison and Mike’s financial troubles (Taking out loan and being trapped, getting the builders in, having the film set, their actions in the dinner party, and trying to sell it to a hotel chain. Just to name a few.) Sam and Jay’s situation is just kinda boring. I do like how Jay is more interested in the ghosts though.

    • @jessmorris8920
      @jessmorris8920 Před 20 dny +10

      with what you said about the deaths, I completely agree, i am biased towards the uk one because i watched horrible histories religiously, however when i watched the US version for the first time, the very first episode felt like it was just "hi i'm this character and i died because of this" or "hi other character you're so good at that because you died due to this" like i do understand that they have to set the scene, but at the same time, show don't tell

    • @cathypiper9373
      @cathypiper9373 Před 20 dny +6

      I’ve seen every episode of both shows and am from the us . I completely agree with you on most every point. The us version has just rounded off all the personalities and made them too “ likable” , perky and nice. They are bland. The only character in the us version I prefer is Jay simply because they give him more to say and do. I feel the uk version has more history,pathos and soul. The financial struggles are more realistic for Allison and Mike. The uk version is just a richer experience. Even the house is more effective than the us set. I really miss this show. What we have now is just a pale reflection of the uk version.

    • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
      @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Před 20 dny +6

      Masterful comment!
      That whole "Hi, I'm bla. And I died like bla." Is the whole reason my family and I stopped watching after five minutes. They remove the main sticking point.
      I do have to disagree on one thing: I liked Kitty's death episode. Quite unexpected, yet good and believable as well. Though maybe it's just the biologist in me that likes spiders. Or maybe it's that it's a mystery episode.
      The Captain's I feel could be better. I don't believe it makes sense that he wouldn't have a service revolver in '45. And him breaking in and pretending to be someone else just felt a bit off with his near religious fanaticism for King, Country and the Army.
      But that's just me and my dad's takes. Nobody has to agree to it.
      Overall the ending episodes weren't quite as well as the rest of the series in my opinion. Though it doesn't help that I'm comparing it to Tedd Lasso, which we we're watching at the time of the last episodes. That series is AMAZING. I've compared to the writings of SIR TERRY PRATCHETT (GNU Terry Pratchett. Speak his name) off all things (!) when it comes to quality and live truths. Then you know it's good. Their Dutch episode is even Dutch approved (By me) even though it's set in just Amsterdam. Which normally would disqualify it immediately.
      I don't know how we ended up going from Ghosts to Tedd Lasso, but I'm recommending it now. Go watch it!

    • @A_Mini_A
      @A_Mini_A Před 18 dny +4

      @@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV oh no! I love Kitty’s death episode! I love how we were given hints throughout the whole show to suggest that it was Eleanor, but it happened to be no one’s fault. It was a death no one predicted. And I love how Kitty is positive about the day she died, which is such a contrast compared to the others.
      No, I hate Alberta’s death! It’s so bad! It starts off with a decent mystery, and ends suddenly without any real achievement. Apparently Hetty knew all the time? That could have worked if it was hinted to much earlier in the show.
      Also, that’s not really how I view The Captain’s death. I view that he went there because he knew Haver was going to be there, and he didn’t know if he was going to see him again. Personally, I struggle to watch his death because I get second hand embarrassment from it because I wouldn’t do what he did. But, I think it makes sense for him.

    • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
      @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Před 17 dny +3

      @@A_Mini_A OH! That makes a lot more sense! Sorry I was a bit tired when I read it. It being past midnight and all.
      And yes The Captains death is realistic to his character, and it's not That bad, but it's just that it could be better.
      And yeah, the second-hand embarresment is just so great as well.

  • @laurabayford1987
    @laurabayford1987 Před 16 dny +7

    The US market one works for the US audience. It's a bit too peppy and nice for UK audiences: we like pathos, schadenfreude, and depth. The US one works but it does feel very gee, swell, oh honey baby to us.

  • @tbrdmann
    @tbrdmann Před 22 dny +50

    To me, the UK version is Butter and the US version is margarine.

  • @patrick.vic.oz.1915
    @patrick.vic.oz.1915 Před 2 měsíci +17

    As an Australian British comedy shows tend to be better resseved
    In Australia we outsource our TV show from the UK and USA because it's cheaper and we'll our stuff is shit.
    Because of our culture, dark humour and underdog stories work best
    Example:
    instead of bugs bunny, the sarcastic winner
    Daffy duck is more popular as he's always the losing sinic

  • @SunriseGirl
    @SunriseGirl Před 2 měsíci +21

    I love the episode where all the uk ghost help tell a story but their almost all unreliable narrators really good plot there, I also like the us version too tho I think they both have merits :)

  • @showusjustice523
    @showusjustice523 Před měsícem +9

    I absolutely love the US version. It's so wholesome and hilarious at the same time.

  • @cameronallan3034
    @cameronallan3034 Před 21 dnem +13

    The original uk version is better

  • @alexroberts771
    @alexroberts771 Před 18 dny +5

    I always think with any US remake of a British comedy that repeating one of the British episodes is nearly always a car crash. When they try their own storylines, they can work out quite well.

  • @jenniferhanses
    @jenniferhanses Před 25 dny +18

    I vastly prefer the UK version. I've even bought the entire show off of Amazon.
    The UK show has this mixture of comedy and bittersweet moments. And I really like that. The ghosts can be funny, but they can also make you cry.
    I'd say it also sounds like you didn't watch even Season 1 of Ghosts all the way through.
    1) Humphrey (the headless ghost is far more important to the series, though he's also forgotten at times. Meanwhile Crash in the US series disappears fro two seasons, pops up, and as far as I'm aware has disappeared again.
    2) Thomas didn't die in 1780 whatever. He died in 1820 something (24 maybe?) . While I do find him stalker-y, I also think he's a good example of a Romantic artist. Their passions ruled them, and that was not always a good thing.
    I could go on for quite a while about how the American version is disappointing and inferior. I think I'll just sum it up as they turned the show into ship bait where everyone is dating everyone else suddenly despite having been trapped in the house together for decades, and the writers don't know what to do with them now they've played out all the romantic tension.
    Meanwhile the British version has no one dating anyone. And while there are hits something might have happened here or there in the past, for the most part they're not interested. They're Friends, not lovers. Well, friends on a good day. They're also an example of Sartre's No Exit.
    The one thing I did like in the US show as having Sam's fall be an accident rather than an attempted murder by ghosts. That was bad. I also like how Jay attempts to play D&D with the ghosts, and how he and Pete have a bit of a friendship as well, though Sam has to be a go between. Mike never really gets close to any of the ghosts.
    Anyway, the US version has awful writing and no heart despite its many sexual relationships. The UK version is the much better product in terms of its emotional core. Ghosts will make you both laugh and cry. And I love that.

    • @sowhatchajen2846
      @sowhatchajen2846 Před 22 dny +5

      I’ve only watched a few episodes of the us version didn’t like it at all. The Allison and Mike are far superior to the us version couple. I also like the ghosts better. The acting and comedy in us version isn’t as funny. Us version just feels like they took the uk show and put in the typical us boring network sitcom format.

    • @jenniferhanses
      @jenniferhanses Před 22 dny +1

      @@sowhatchajen2846 Re: US sitcom format.
      I think its format does borrow from that at times, but that's not actually what they're doing (or if they were, they're doing an awful job of it. I mentioned the romantic relationships as a problem. Part of it is that they don't know how to do a network Slow Burn. In the show Lois and Clark, and old network Superman show, where the entire audience know Lois and Clark are eventually going to get together, I think they kept that bait going for 3 years, maybe 4 before they finally got together.
      In the US ghosts, probably their most successful relationship was the Revolutionary soldier having a long-term infatuation with the Red Coat officer that he accidentally killed. The story was introduced with the premise that there's 3 British Red Coats who live in a shed on the property, and that every year, he comes to the house with his men and has an argument with Issac (the Revolutionary) over ownership of the house, I think it is. They have a huge argument. And then he leaves and comes back again next year.
      And when you find out that Issac acutlaly likes him, it's kind of cute. And Sam and Jay push to move things forward so that they aren't just arguing with each other once a year, and could maybe start courting. And as much as I find the romances in the show irritating, this was the first one, and seemed to be well set up in the characters' backstories, so I was willing to go along with it and see where it went.
      And then it basically did a speed run of multiple dating obstacles that should have had legitimate conversation and growing together as a couple, as well as coming up with quite a few ridiculous ones. Like, there actually was a friends stage before a courting stage and that seemed like it should have lasted longer considering Issac was in denial about being gay in the first place. But even after that, there should have been more talk. Various philsophical differences to get over. Various past mistakes to get over. Basically there was lots of grist for the mill that should have made the relationship take time. And the show just would not slow down the romance.
      To be clear, I can get irritated with shows that move too slowly on their romantic plots, but this was ridiculously fast And again, I actually liked this pairing and thought it was interesting and promising.
      If they'd been running the show like a proper network show, they would have stretched things out, much longer. And heck, the arguments between the two would have been of historical, but we're going to totally ignore that they have massively opposing political views to the point that one of them shot the other. That doesn't need to be worked through at all and will take no time.
      I'd say that maybe it was a speedrun because the writers thought gay romance was icky, but the straight couples got worse treatment (less development, a faster speedrun, and a certain blandness to the whole story just so everyone could be having sex with everyone else. It was very disappointing.

    • @sowhatchajen2846
      @sowhatchajen2846 Před 22 dny +2

      @@jenniferhanses I wasn’t expecting such a detailed response. I love UK ghosts so much. I bought season 4 on dvd when there was no way to get it here in us and I have a uk regions PlayStation to play uk dvds (I have several uk region dvds I think darkplace was the first). Luckily I was able to buy the 5th season digitally. I still may get a box set. All this to say I was also very disappointed in the US version too. I loved Julian’s arc by the end. The push was important to his story.

    • @jenniferhanses
      @jenniferhanses Před 22 dny

      @@sowhatchajen2846 I still find Julian pushing Sam one of the worst things in the original Ghosts.
      And his apology for it in the 5th season was awful.
      The reason that it was awful was that it didn't matter what he did or what Alison did, I was never going to be happy with any of the resolution possibilities:
      1) Alison leaves never to return. I don't want Alison to leave her friends. She's an orphan who has wanted a family her whole life and here they are.
      2) He doesn't apologize and Alison stays. He tried to murder her. He's no longer an annoying relative, he's a danger to her and her family. She's a fool to stay.
      3) He apologizes and she stays. There is no apology that is ever going to be good enough for "I wanted to murder you, I tried to go through with it, and I failed." There is nothing he can do to make up for it. She needs to leave. And again, I don't want her to leave.
      I really did not like Season 5. It has its high points. I liked the April Fools episode. But for me, but show ends with the whole cast dancing to Achy Breaky heart. The rest of it is just so bad. And pointless. Alison leaving does not fix her seeing ghosts. Alison leaving does not fix her and Mike having crap job prospects. Her best move was to live in the house and find a way to make money off of the land and house itself. Because working a minimum wage job for the rest of her life while being pestered by ghosts sounds way worse.

    • @MsKaz1000
      @MsKaz1000 Před 9 dny +1

      @@jenniferhanses They got a lot of money for the house and grounds, not just that bit for the golf course to be honest it would have been nice if they got shares in the hotel but the fact every Christmas they have their usual room may also have been written into the sales contract and the basement ghosts enjoying the lovely sauna room was sweet

  • @Damo40
    @Damo40 Před 17 dny +8

    having seen both. I would describe the UK ghosts as being more like a family and the US ghosts as being friends that live together, which explains why in the US they are more friendly and upbeat with each other and the UK they argue more. The two joes have done an amazing job of making the show fit an American audience while keeping the core essence of the original UK show. UK and US humor doesn't always cross the pond well as US comedy generally tends to have more positivity. Alison and Mike felt like a typical UK couple with Mike not really forming a good relationship with the ghosts as he can't see them whereas Jay being into comics, sci-fi and movies allows him to be more interested in the ghosts and form a good relationship of sorts with some of the ghosts, which initially felt like a device they felt they needed to make Jay have relevance to the show because he can't see them, but the two joes have made it work well.

  • @evegusman7626
    @evegusman7626 Před 21 dnem +10

    So happy I saw the UK version first. It's the better series

  • @RedEveTillDawn
    @RedEveTillDawn Před 2 měsíci +12

    I like the UK version, those characters were charming

  • @lemonfreshrob
    @lemonfreshrob Před 17 dny +5

    I've watched both, but as a Brit I will always side with the UK one. But I was very pleasantly surprised by the US adaptation. They both had different areas of history to draw on.
    The difference in comedy styles is I think in down to the respective psyches of the two nations. Us Brits tend to be darker, more frustrated, and we tend to root for the underdog trying in tough situations. US comedies tend to be much more (sometimes relentlessly) positive and upbeat, much like the Americans I know.
    Both versions have made me cry more than I feel I should at a silly comedy show. There is a lot of depth to both.

  • @justk4929
    @justk4929 Před 26 dny +16

    I personally preferred the UK version’s wit. Though I am British. Whilst I liked the conflict of the American version, everything you found largely positive, I found largely negative. Sam I found to be irritating and unbelievable whilst Alison I found to be more relatable and was more invested in. Found Mike and Jay to be equally annoying so meh. Honestly knowing that they only exist to be a ‘what ghost thing?’ Character sucked, I just find it to be an overused ploy in tv. I found the UK version to have better build up and it made me personally laugh harder. I also quite enjoyed Alison’s accident because it was more understandable. She leant out a window and couldn’t see Julian behind her or shoving her out. I guess Sam just missed the large vase that made a noise when it dropped? Tbf the mansion thing seems like a cultural difference, the uk is very old there are plenty of mansions with tight halls and smaller rooms. I felt quite split on the ghosts, I preferred the Captain, Robin Julian and Kitty but I did like Flower and Alberta. I also felt the use of a colonial captain was weird, there being a Native American present and yet that obvious conflict isn’t there seems off. I really liked your take and understood completely but I’m UK all the way

    • @MsKaz1000
      @MsKaz1000 Před 9 dny

      The Native American Sasappis I think died well before the Americas were colonised so they likely had no obvious conflict

    • @justk4929
      @justk4929 Před 7 dny

      @@MsKaz1000 Sorry I meant that the obvious conflict would be the captain being racist. Like he was a confederate captain, wouldn't he viscerally hate native americans? I could just not be clued up enough.

    • @vaudevillian7
      @vaudevillian7 Před dnem

      @@justk4929he’s not a Confederate, almost 100 years before that in the American War of Independence

  • @kelseyredford219
    @kelseyredford219 Před 15 dny +5

    Possibly it's because I prefer witty humor to slapstick, I am a fan of the UK Ghosts. I also saw it first. I feel like the American Ghosts either feel like extreme caricatures of their respective times and cultures, or they don't feel like they are from that era at all. There was one episode where Sass stated that he died at a Halloween party and that this was a costume, only to reveal that was sarcasm. I was thinking it made a lot more sense to his character. I also feel like the funniest moments in the American version are when they pulled jokes directly from the UK version. I will say that Jay is an amazing addition to the show. He is by far my favorite part of the American version.

  • @deadlyflood
    @deadlyflood Před 2 měsíci +4

    Your commentary videos on shows are always so fun!

  • @lpierce8842
    @lpierce8842 Před 25 dny +9

    I’m an American and I MUCH prefer the English version. It is the original and the American version wouldn’t exist if the English version didn’t. I don’t know how it took you so long to see the English version. I saw it, in the US, long before the American version even was a thought. The English version is much more poignant; you really care about the characters and are invested in their happiness. I’ve seen a couple of episodes of the American version and it just seems like a caricature of the original version. And I love the ending of the English version; instead of beating a dead horse, they brought the show to a satisfying conclusion before it started to get stale.

    • @lpierce8842
      @lpierce8842 Před 25 dny +1

      Oh, and by the way, the English version was filmed in a REAL mansion, so that’s why some of the scenes seemed a bit closed in. You can go on CZcams and get a tour of the mansion they used. I’ll bet the American version uses film sets.

    • @thejudgmentalcritter6584
      @thejudgmentalcritter6584  Před 25 dny

      Where did you see it? Which streaming service was it? Because I looked for ages and couldn't find it anywhere!

    • @lpierce8842
      @lpierce8842 Před 25 dny

      @@thejudgmentalcritter6584 I saw it on Daily Motion originally. Later I bought it on Amazon Prime because I love it so much, I go back and watch it again and again.

  • @jamessmithson-br7rm
    @jamessmithson-br7rm Před 9 dny +4

    I love both UK and US versions. They are both good in their own way. You just have to get past the first few episodes of the US one, as it’s super speed repeats through the UK premise.

  • @allies7184
    @allies7184 Před 20 dny +4

    What a lot of people don't seem to know is that Simon Farnaby and Mathew Baynton, who play cast members in the UK version are executive producers for the U.S. version.

  • @TiaCatR
    @TiaCatR Před 26 dny +10

    This is a fun comparative analysis - thanks for sharing! I've watched both shows and love them both in many of the ways you describe. One big difference in the two shows is that the UK show is filmed in a real house - West Horsley Place, in Surrey. As in the show, it's a 15th century structure with a 17th century facade attached to it. The show was filmed entirely on site - interiors and exteriors. That's probably why it felt claustrophobic and dark, because it's a really old house, not a big, spacious soundstage as in the US Ghosts. The exterior of the US Ghosts mansion is in Canada, and the show's filmed in studio in Montreal. As far as which show I like better, that is so hard to say! They're both great in their own ways. I do feel that the UK version is more clever, but the US version is a little more lighthearted, so I guess whatever you're in the mood for!

  • @bobhale7302
    @bobhale7302 Před 17 dny +3

    The take away here is that the American version is designed to appeal to the American brighter, happier, more obvious sense of humour where the British one is designed to appeal to the British, downbeat, gloomier, more subtle sense of humour. Horses for courses.

  • @Kelga80
    @Kelga80 Před 19 dny +3

    I also have to point out the US version has the grumpy teenager who lives in the attic and sleeps for about 20 years at a time. She’s a terrible character, though, and I’d prefer to forget her.

  • @alluke24
    @alluke24 Před 20 dny +5

    I love that you did this comparison I have not seen the British version but I am a fan of the American version so seeing this is really great thank you so much 😊

  • @jenniferthomson9442
    @jenniferthomson9442 Před 23 dny +6

    I watched the first season or two of the UK version before the US version came out. I have seen all of the US version. I love both. They are two different versions of the same prompt. Like two artists commissioned to paint the same subject. Many elements will be the same but yet different takes on the same subject.

  • @OneTaker
    @OneTaker Před 2 měsíci +33

    Ok so not seen either of theses show so bear with me.
    The mansion size thing you mentioned, ya even the uk old timey large estates tend not to be that big.
    Feel from how you described it the UK verion was first and that gives the US version time to rewrite and improve on somethings, with the benefit of hindsight.
    The lighting and colours again i feel come done to culture. American tv has definitely come off as more " look how big, bright and colorful everything is!".
    Feel like the ghosts directly trying to kill her and touching her may have been apart of the reason she sees them, but for american verion they saw this was not really important long term and went their own way.
    The part where UK verion seems to be made up of small annoyances and the US is very " well lets go with it" seems very UK attitude vs US attitude. Infact i feel if you had not mentioned which was which version i would have easily guessed it.
    Going to say though, i have not seen either and I'm probably not going to. Neither sounds like my thing. But thanks for sharing. It was interesting to here about the 2's differences and similarities.

  • @ivanc2339
    @ivanc2339 Před 2 dny +2

    I'm British, I watched both series with my Children and we enjoyed both immensely. I feel bad saying this but we actually thought the US version was funnier.

  • @elijahsmith4047
    @elijahsmith4047 Před 2 měsíci +46

    Ive watched the US version and I absolutely love it. The hardest part about enjoying it though was that I couldn't find people talking about it online who weren't bashing it for not being the UK version. So finally having my views validated is like, awesome. It's a fun show and I'm really excited for it to continue.

    • @HiyaImDelta
      @HiyaImDelta Před 2 měsíci +9

      That’s super valid. I personally prefer the UK version, but just because it’s the only one I’ve seen and I grew up with the cast.
      People will always tend to like what they’re used to, it’s a big reason why there would be massive arguments about dub vs. sub in Anime.
      But I think people definitely have a tendency to really devalue US versions of UK TV. There is a sort of “air of superiority” around it, which sucks, because from what Critter said in her video, I can totally get why someone would prefer the U.S. version, especially if it’s the one they first watched!

    • @paulashe61
      @paulashe61 Před měsícem +3

      It was surprisingly humorous.

    • @Phees.pawz12
      @Phees.pawz12 Před měsícem +2

      Exactlyyy

    • @DaxKilo
      @DaxKilo Před měsícem +3

      Same here. I love Ghosts US and watch it every week. In my opinion, its a comedy how comedies should be. I tried watching Ghosts UK, in hope that I would have 2 Ghosts shows to love but I found Ghosts UK to be slow moving, boring, and dreary. No offense to those who like it, just a difference in taste and culture. But my vote definitely goes to Ghosts US. Love the show.

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 Před 26 dny +3

      I was pleasantly surprised by the American version of Ghosts. They have taken things to a different place (with the possession storylines, for example) and the cast is just amazing. I like to watch both

  • @johnlbirch
    @johnlbirch Před 18 dny +4

    A lot of the differences you talk about are differences between British and US comedy. "We are all in the shit together" is the core of most British comedy. Comedy in the UK is rarely positive or upbeat, which is totally different to comedy in the US. Ap
    The fact that the US series B&B succeeds whereas the UK series hotel fails just highlights this.
    Ditto characters. Often negative in British comedy - and British comedy LOVES argument and disagreement.
    Also, fewer episodes in the UK series, so not enough time for too much set up. No time to worry too much about the "livings" background - get on with the ghost bit.
    As for small rooms, have you visited a British stately home? Apart from large reception rooms, dining rooms - often the ones on the ground floor and often for show - most rooms are relatively small. So a bedroom will often have a separate dressing room, etc. - a suite of small interconnected rooms. Why? Probably heating-related - smaller rooms are easier to heat. But the UK series reflects this very well. British stately homes are often remarkably pokey (and easy to get lost in) inside.

    • @MsKaz1000
      @MsKaz1000 Před 9 dny +3

      and they used a real one, not a stage set in the UK series

  • @ChaosqueenMaddy
    @ChaosqueenMaddy Před 11 dny +4

    16:50 To be fair, that's kinda the point. Julian is a Conservative MP from the late 80s-early 90s. They arent really known to be good people here in the UK

    • @davidbarton1928
      @davidbarton1928 Před 2 dny +2

      Julian is a real sweetie compared to Alan B'Stard (played by Rik Mayall) from late 80s / early 90s satirical sitcom The New Statesman.
      Both are parodies of a particular breed of Thatcherite MP who rose to prominence during the 80s - i.e brash, amoral, corrupt, impulsive and prone to infidelity and sexual misadventure.

  • @Jmcinally94
    @Jmcinally94 Před 14 dny +7

    There are so many times when you say you dont like the UK version because "paints X character in a really negative light/makes them seem stupid".
    This is 100% where cultural humour varies between the UK and US. I wouldnt find it a negative of a comedy if some characters are flawed.
    However, I actually had the opposite issue with US Ghosts. I struggled to get into it because the characters felt one dimensional and a lot of the jokes felt like they relied on stereotypes of what someone from that time period would be like. Like The Captain, in the UK version the joke isnt that he's gay, it's that he doesn't realise. The US one just hammered as many gay jokes so heavy handedly that its clear that the joke is just "hes gay haha"

  • @arynackerman7232
    @arynackerman7232 Před 20 dny +3

    UK. Kitty and Mary were my favorites. And The Captain and Kitty's afternoon together was one of the best bits! Singing about clouds, then skipping away...loved it. The interactions between the UK ghosts feels more genuine and you believe they've been stuck together for ages. The US ghosts don't give off that same vibe - it's like they're meeting each other when they meet Sam.

  • @tomboughan2718
    @tomboughan2718 Před 11 dny +2

    I liked both versions of the Ghosts. Each for different reasons.

  • @spacecaptain9188
    @spacecaptain9188 Před 10 dny +1

    The American version had a better balance of give and take between livings and ghosts. In the UK version, I occasionally found myself wishing the livings really would move out, or at least stop being so kind to ghosts who were usually pretty horrible in return.

  • @FRADAVE02
    @FRADAVE02 Před 20 dny +3

    I distinctly remember seeing the UK Ghosts on streaming before the US version even premiered!

  • @LeeLee-pk4ss
    @LeeLee-pk4ss Před 11 dny +2

    I was surprised that I really like the US version better too

  • @donabaypro6782
    @donabaypro6782 Před 15 dny

    Good insights. Basically what I was thinking. Thanks.

  • @piyam5948
    @piyam5948 Před 18 dny +2

    You liking the us version more shows how well it was adapted for another country. I heard the ghosts creators hoping it would get adapted in many countries with all different ghosts for each country.
    Also the types of ghosts, due to the types of people, in a country stately house is pretty limited so the characters are limited. When the prom ghost turned up I was amazed, they didn't demolish the house for being cursed

  • @julkawojtachnio6265
    @julkawojtachnio6265 Před 12 dny +2

    Oh my! I'm so happy that someone is talking about ghosts, both shows don't get as much recognition as they deserve.
    I first started watching the BBC version and heard so many people say how horrible the us version was, but it really wasn't that bad. It was just different ig.
    Both have their good and bad parts, and I like both!
    I think the only reason why I might prefer BBC ghosts, is that the second and third season of CBS ghosts is literally unavailable where I live. Like what? Only season 1?
    So if anyone knows of some place I can get the rest of this show, I would really appreciate it ❤️

  • @aprilbrown8790
    @aprilbrown8790 Před 26 dny +16

    I love both versions, but I love the US one more. I didn’t think I would after watching every episode of the UK one. I love how the ghost generally care about each other. I love how Sam and Jay really care about them and they care about them.

    • @gisela_oliveira
      @gisela_oliveira Před 18 dny +5

      I also prefer the US version (not being from any of those countries, I don't actually understa the culture), the character are a lot more intersting, especially Jay and Sam, they have actuall storylines. I've watched the UK series and It felt like the story was going nowhere, like the characters don't actually improve. They've still have a house that is falling apart and no jobs or money, while the US version they actually ot things moving, they have the B&B and now they move for a new plot, the restaurant.

  • @user-pg7ir1pn9v
    @user-pg7ir1pn9v Před 2 měsíci +10

    As someone who’s only seen the Uk ghosts I do like the concepts they couldn’t do here such as the indigenous American and the hippie since those would only be available in America and I like there creativity

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 Před 26 dny +1

      Puh lease, there were plenty of hippies in Europe 🙄

    • @krashd
      @krashd Před 20 dny +2

      Swinging London was almost a decade before the Summer of Love in the US. Led Zeppelin, The Beatles and The Who with their drugs and groupies would disagree that there were no hippies here, also the UK had indigenous people before we arrived, the original Bretons and Picts and before that the ancient Druids.

  • @Kelga80
    @Kelga80 Před 20 dny +3

    Both versions are really fun. Honestly I’d love to see a version of this show from another country as well. Different countries have different historical characters leading to an interesting cast of ghosts. I really grew to love Robin in the UK version. The episode with the bear was him at his absolute best. His deepness when Mary left was sweet as well. I also love the hidden affair in the UK version. In the US version episodes that focus on Pete are guaranteed to hit the feels and Thorfin is the best character.

    • @aleksisgabliks3881
      @aleksisgabliks3881 Před 17 dny

      As I was watching the UK version I started to think of that as well. In Latvian version there would definitely be ww1 soldier rather than ww2. And probably 13th century pagan/later middle age religious merchant duo who would bicker all the time. Any of the poets/writers that made up the first national awakening, like they all are really important and really well known here. Definitely some somple peasant ghost and done politically oppressed one. Someone who died drunk driving as well, since that's a huuuge problem here

    • @Kelga80
      @Kelga80 Před 17 dny

      @@aleksisgabliks3881 That would be fun to watch. :D

  • @scorpiolady73
    @scorpiolady73 Před 21 dnem +3

    I love them both. Such a fun story!

  • @kathleenmary1000
    @kathleenmary1000 Před 7 dny +1

    HH cast hands down! Have to admit that I'm team UK. American version is terrific, but the original is just hilarious! Thanks for doing this great show!!

  • @nevaehhamilton3493
    @nevaehhamilton3493 Před 4 dny

    So what you're saying is if I push myself down the stairs, I, too, can see dead people?

  • @lanareed214
    @lanareed214 Před 20 dny +2

    I do like them both but the UK wins hands down. Idk why it's so much more fun because we have ghost from so many different times. Mary is my heart and soul. And Robin is so smart it's scary. I could talk ghosts all day. This has been my favorite show I watch everyday for 2 years. I downloaded DailyMotion app to watch all the UK seasons.

  • @HairyMarry9170
    @HairyMarry9170 Před měsícem +3

    I like the uk version but I love the US version.

  • @jadacampbell9331
    @jadacampbell9331 Před 22 dny +2

    Maybe thomas is also primary inspiration for sassapis. Poet, storyteller, overomanticizes.
    Kitty is also very similar to flower 🌼

  • @NotUlpoadingAnything
    @NotUlpoadingAnything Před 20 dny +2

    Pat specifically died in 1984 and Thomas died in 1824, not 1796. I like that the UK ghosts and Alison start out disliking each other. You get to see the ghosts loosen up and remember how to have fun thanks to their connection to a living person and Alison learns how to live with the ghosts instead of around them.

    • @thejudgmentalcritter6584
      @thejudgmentalcritter6584  Před 19 dny +3

      I see where I got Thomas' death date wrong. I was using the wiki to fact check my numbers, and I accidentally used his birthdate. Oops! My bad!

  • @bostonblackie9503
    @bostonblackie9503 Před 10 dny +1

    I think the most famous would be All in The Family. Based on the UK Till Death Do Us Part!

  • @brinmoody
    @brinmoody Před 19 dny +2

    I definitely am in the boat of preferring the UK version over the US one. I find british comedy more entertaining, personally and love the cast of the show. Their previous big show was Horrible Histories, which I love a lot too. I personally find the US one to be kind of annoying at times, honestly.

  • @stevenmclaughlin7073
    @stevenmclaughlin7073 Před 9 dny +1

    Love them both! i am addicted to both of them and binge watch them together

  • @vaudevillian7
    @vaudevillian7 Před dnem

    That’s genuinely what old mansions and stately home look like, they’re not McMansions. It’s filmed in a real one in the UK

  • @charsol2389
    @charsol2389 Před 15 dny +1

    I was distraught when the UK version ended and tried to watch the US version and barely made it through the first episode. It felt a bit too preppy and the characters felt shallow but to be fair that’s probably something that would improve if I stuck it out. I just don’t think it grabbed me enough to want to.

  • @NightriderzFlash
    @NightriderzFlash Před 2 měsíci +2

    Did you watch the one with a vampire, ghost, and werewolf as roommates? They have a UK and US version and I loved both so much.
    I also read all of the Dexter and watched all the shows except for the newer season they did. But they go in a totally different direction from each other like how Invisible is doing. They have been doing multiverse shit and it keeps you on the edge of your seat.

    • @NightriderzFlash
      @NightriderzFlash Před 2 měsíci

      I have to watch this meow. My parents love it and this video of yours has me sold.

    • @thejudgmentalcritter6584
      @thejudgmentalcritter6584  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I've wanted to watch that one for so long!

    • @NightriderzFlash
      @NightriderzFlash Před 2 měsíci

      I really liked them. The UK was a lot tamer in my opinion. Both of them always end with a WTF moment to make turning it off very difficult.
      As for the Dexter series, having different characters die and/or find out his addiction was an experience. Usually live action typically leaves a bunch of the story out, but not knowing what will happen is why I like that story. Though the Bloodline series is still my favorite saga.

    • @greenskittles8627
      @greenskittles8627 Před 10 dny

      The UK version of Being Human was vastly superior to the US version IMO. I haven't seen the UK version of Ghosts, but I love that the US one is so wholesome. We have so much dark heavy stuff out there, it's nice to have a soft comedy with minimal conflict. I actually think it's almost more sad in some ways because the ghosts actually seem nice and don't deserve to be ghosts. They do grow and change and become even nicer over the course of the show.

  • @veanng
    @veanng Před 11 dny +1

    I don't have a preference and like both versions. I watched the British version first and American more recently. I like both sets of characters and the specific to each version ones as well. I think both shows are solidly funny and likable and I recommend both.

  • @carlm7375
    @carlm7375 Před 18 dny

    Which series has the UK created from america? I assume we rename or change the idea of them as I can’t think of one

  • @chloetaylor7476
    @chloetaylor7476 Před 4 dny

    Pushing Alison out of the window does paint Julian in a bad light but sets up the last season, more specifically the last episode so so well, in terms of Julians change of character in my opinion

  • @juliemarsden1858
    @juliemarsden1858 Před 7 dny +1

    Im not into American sitcoms but i love the US version better

  • @caseymadison5337
    @caseymadison5337 Před 20 dny +1

    I watched and enjoyed both versions! I never finished the US as it became a bit stale, but I feel like the advantage it had over the UK one is that it was written after so the writers had already figured out what did/didn’t work in the original and could tailor it to that. While I do agree that the first episodes of the US are better because of that reason, I still prefer the Uk because of the journeys the characters go on, it seems to have the perfect mix of funny and emotional, and by the end you truly fall in love with all of the ghosts. Robin especially has my heart, the episode where he talks about his love for the moon because it is the only constant that has stayed over the thousands of years of him being dead makes me cry every time I watch. Plus extra nostalgia points because of the cast being a big part of my childhood with horrible histories. I still think both are great, and I was so pleased because usually a lot of shows translated from the UK to the US don’t work at all (I.e skins & the imbetweeners)

  • @RogueWJL
    @RogueWJL Před 11 dny

    They are all based on UK Children's TV series from the 1970s called The Ghosts of Motley Hall.
    The makers have acknowledge this.

  • @paulflux5892
    @paulflux5892 Před 12 dny

    The similarity in ages of the British ghosts is largely because most of them are played by the writers of the show, a collective known as Them There, or informally as The Six Idiots, who first worked together on the children's comedy history show Horrible Histories 2009-2013.

  • @user-uy5ki5bj6p
    @user-uy5ki5bj6p Před 12 dny +1

    The UK one is original and is better I can not convince me otherwise plus has dinner episodes later on

  • @missladyanonymity
    @missladyanonymity Před 17 dny +1

    We now know hetty died circa/after 1895.🥹😥

    • @karaokegirl1313
      @karaokegirl1313 Před 16 dny

      Man that episode was heart wrenching! I love when comedic shows can also do something that dramatic well without completely ruining the tone of the show

  • @drawde_064
    @drawde_064 Před 8 dny

    As a Brit, I have to say I was pleasantly surprised by the US version and actually really enjoyed it. I do still prefer the UK version, and Julian is my favourite character across both shows, I think it would have been good for the US version to also have a politician character.

  • @tonymyers733
    @tonymyers733 Před 10 dny

    Okay I like to ask everyone a question I'm watching the UK version can everybody or anybody give me the names of all the characters ghosts and what year they died

  • @Luna-Astra11
    @Luna-Astra11 Před 15 dny +1

    I Like pretty much everything about the us version more, but I like some of the concepts of the unique ghosts in the uk version. For example the girl that’s like super nice and stuff and the one that was burned at the stake. I just prefer the humor of the us ghosts and overall personality and characters. Also I like the poster for the uk better. But I dislike how almost all the ghosts are from earlier times instead of each having very different eras they died in
    My overall favorite:
    US GHOSTS!!

  • @jessespringer7723
    @jessespringer7723 Před 4 dny

    I hope all three shows are canon to each other like the American office is canon to the British office

  • @foxesofautumn
    @foxesofautumn Před 17 dny +1

    I like the ghosts in both versions, and this is really a show where localisation makes sense, but I like the couple in the UK version more and I came in from Horrible History so I prefer the UK version. I do appreciate the US version uses the premise to tell a story unique to that setting though. It’s a very exportable premise.

  • @joelmavity1467
    @joelmavity1467 Před 18 dny

    I have seen both and I love them for different reasons but I can’t decide which one I like better. Both casts are really funny to me.

  • @ginamills5597
    @ginamills5597 Před 26 dny +1

    I like both versions. I think it’s one case where the us & uk have done the same show w their own spins but very well.

  • @dumblebee9167
    @dumblebee9167 Před 19 dny +1

    I love the UK version! The American version isn’t bad, but I just wasn’t invested in the same way. It wasn’t as funny, and the characters didn’t interest me as much.

  • @racatiwood
    @racatiwood Před 17 dny +1

    you didn't catch the Rose McIver's zombie reference? No love for Liv Moore?

  • @spacecaptain9188
    @spacecaptain9188 Před 10 dny +1

    I saw them both, but in the other order (British first, then American). I loved the British version, but some episodes were more annoying than fun, because the characters behaviors crossed the line from funny to infuriating. They really went all in on aggravating and annoying personalities, and worse, pandering to those personalities. The US version had much less of that, and the other characters at had the good sense to call each other out when they behaved badly. The only thing they did that never really got addressed was shout too much (Thorfin and Alberta). Because of this, I enjoyed the American version better (which surprised me, because I also usually prefer the UK versions of TV shows, and because I'm a longtime fan of the comedy group that starred in the UK version). I would very happily watch both versions again.

  • @katwitanruna
    @katwitanruna Před 11 dny

    I actually saw the UK before the US version. I like them both but if I had to pick one I’d go UK. Their actors look like real people.

  • @zinzinnatiohio
    @zinzinnatiohio Před 20 dny

    The UK version was airing on HBO Max since it aired in UK. I was in a hotel in Akron and was super confused when CBS switched from the UK version to the US version.

  • @alyzu4755
    @alyzu4755 Před 24 dny +1

    Kitty is adorable! Ive only seen the first few episodes of the U.K version (and none of the U.S version), and Kitty and the Captain were my favorites. ☺️

  • @elliec4154
    @elliec4154 Před 5 dny

    I think... I really like both. The British one has better moments but the US one is way better overall. The moment with Thomas learning the truth of the day he died. The moment of Robin and the moon have truely stuck with me. But the main couple the US series, 1000x more likeable and believable - especially their relationship. The husband feels like a husband instead of eyerolling comic relief that the wife babies. The ghosts too develop more. The UK had a good idea/skits/moments. The US developed them from caricature to people.