Patched & Reworked Boeing 747-8i Brought Back to Life @ KPAE Paine Field
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- BOE21 Boeing 747-8i N828BA L/N1435 has been spending quite a bit of time being reworked and can be seen here finally taking to the air again after being on the ground for over 2 years.
At the moment it's in plain Lufthansa colors as she was originally destined to head that way, at this time I'm unsure what the future of this aircraft will be.
Filmed: April 8, 2015 KPAE Paine Field Future of Flight in Everett, WA USA.
Watching a 747 take off or land just never gets old. Such a magnificent aircraft!
This was D-ABYE. Boeing used it for testing, which was okay, but they used it too much and then LH didnt want it anymore. Also as it was an early production aircraft, it had a lot of differences to the ones that were delivered to LH later. It would have been bad in terms of maintenance.
747-8 is a massive but elegant bird.
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Great to see her come to life after so long being re-worked!!
Someone needs to buy more of these and keep the Queen going
With the end of Airbus jumbo bouble deck no longer being produced I believe this aircraft will continue being manufactured...
Don't worry, Airbust's failed A380 attempt to beat the 747, ensures the extremely successful 747 will continue to fly.
@@richardbearden7889 On the contrary: the very few orders unfulfilled now are cargo versions. The program is being folded as there is no hope for any airline to order a substantial number of 4s.
Nobody's interested in the 4-engine ones any longer..
I keep putting in those Lotto tickets... :)
The sound of those engines , I remember the same sound on take off out of Bahrain when were on a Qantas Flight (001) along that very long Bahrain runway
Queen of the sky
She's as strong as ever.
That bird needs a bath! Great video.
No any other aircraft can beat the 747. Not even the 380.
A little explanation of the location and what is going on in this video would be great.
It's in the description.
Always check the description area for details!!
Payne Field is where Boeing builds 747s and thus where it got refurbed.
Nice Catch :-) Hopefully this plane is delivered to them.
I’m in love
Looks tired , but sounds great . Love the 747’s!
How does it look tired?
my favorite big bird in the sky, boeing 747 of Saudi Arabian Airlines.Ahlan Wasahlan.
It's kind of sad that these planes haven't sold better. There's nothing like a 747 in any of its incarnations...what's wrong with the airlines??
It's just not as efficient as the 777 and A380
MrBryan86 Airlines that currently fly the A380 are no considering ditching them and placing orders for more 777s including the new 777X which is going into production at the end of this year. Airlines don't want four engined aircraft anymore because of rising fuel costs despite being fitted with some of the most efficient engines going.
+tomcatter11 That's the gossip I'm hearing too. If you can believe it, one or a small number of A380's have appeared on the used aircraft market. That usually signals the beginning of a slippery slope sliding into worthlessness. Emerates is the only operator with a backlog of deliveries. The A380 is simply not as efficient as the 777 in cost per passenger mile.
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MrBryan86 It may not be as efficient as a newer triple 7, but studies have shown its cost per mile seat charge is actually lower than that of the A380..it costs less to obtain, fuel effeicency is almost the same and you dont have to pay airports to upgrade their facilities to be able to park a double decker bus..airlines thought it would be great getting a double decked boxcar to haul 600+ pax but now realize the A380 will not be able to pay for itself after all costs outlays are factored in..that plus the A380 can't be easily converted to a freighter or combi but the 747 can
IranAir is planning to buy some. I love this aircraft. It should never disappear.
I still think that it's a better option than A380 as filling up the A380 everyday shouldn't be that easy !
ehsan83 l agree is better refurbish engines. On old 747 make more competitive than a380
She’s just the right size-not too big. Big enough and time tested!
Looks like it is currently in Victorville Ca. Hope just for storage! B747 is still the Queen!
Wat a beast!!!! :-)
Those patches are the worlds largest band aids!
Bonne Chance! Good luck!
I wouldn't rite off the 747 just yet. The ugly A380 will be history within 12 months. Cargo 747's are still in full production. Passenger 747's will make a big comeback. The world loves them.
A big comeback? 😂😂😂 4 engine aircraft aren't making any comebacks
The 747 parts contractors production line was shutdown last year. Boeing has two years of critical parts left before it either has to set up an new production line or stop production.
Beautiful plane...modern day Constellation
Well as Boeing are unlikely to make it public news what's going on with L/N1435, altho the production list may offer a bit of a clue (haven't had a look at it yet !) It is obvious those engines haven't been out in the weather for 2 years. They were either the originals, that were removed and stored or more likely the originals were reinstalled on another 747 8I delivered to Lufthansa. As these ones look new, and are painted in Lufthansa colours again. I'd put just a little bit of money, on this aircraft being sorted, repainted, and delivered eventually to Lufthansa.
The green repair patches indicate work having been done around the cockpit area possibly for electrical/mechanical issues, and on the port side, lower, also for airconditioning issues perhaps to the first class cabin which is the front cabin of Lufthansa's 747 8I However I'd have thought those sorts of issues could be internally corrected !
But it may be as simple as the finish on these panels were not up to standard off the line, or maybe damaged from the inside during the build ??? Please keep us posted OG !
NZMarklinist Good observations my friend! Will keep you updated :)
+OwnsGermany Well I was wrong, I'd now have a guess that she'll be one of the new Air Force 1's or a BBJ ;)
+NZMarklinist hope it can be the new AF1, then it will be lovely Reject becomes Queen story.
What was the need for repair ?
I think Boeing should consider a 747-8X. The plane would have only two of the same or slightly larger of the 777X's engines, as well as redesigned to have the 777X's efficiency enhancements. The 747's iconic bloated head and overall silhouette are too precious to lose from today's skies!
Dude 4 B777 engines...that be crazy
It’s not quite that easy....the wings are designed with the engine pylons and the engines themselves as mass balances.....the entire wing would have to be redesigned. Boeing did study a trijet version like the L-1011, but didn’t proceed. Easier to just stretch the 777, which Boeing did in the end.
James Anderton DONT forget that 2 GE-9x DONT produce the thrust of 4 GENX so it would be under powered.
Philippine Airlines should buy this B-747-8i ,fly her on the MNL to JFK or LAX,SFO routes.
Doesn’t really make sense an airline to have one plane of a certain type. They’d have to spend all that money on pilot training and maintenance just for that one plane, doesn’t financially make sense.
@Pocahontas Littlemanintheboat that was in 1998...lol. 21 year-old news.
what happened to it? And is it just a Boeing demonstrator or is it going to an airline?
Looks like a test flight
What's The Latest On The Korean Air B747-8I?
What happened to her face with green bandage 😀
I wonder what caused the need to patch her up like that?! Those panels are an odd place to receive damage. Which is usually the reason for replacing skin panels.
A friend of mine said that for a 14 hours flight on the A350 he used around 85 tones of fuel. For a 10 hour flight the B747 can use between 105 - 110 tones of fuel. The fuel cost per passenger is much lower on newer wide-bodies.
airplane800 They can refit old birds with new engines. UPS does it all the time
@@mrpaulgrimm6129 The cargo business is a little complex because Cargo normally goes one way only. The B-777 offers better cost per tone and also in case you don't have so much cargo coming back you won't loose money. Another problem with four engines is that it double the chance you may have an engine problem. Service two engines is cheaper than service 4 engines. The B-747 is still a good option for cargo but the B777 or A330 cargo offers a better economics in some routes.
Mr Paul Grimm that is in the past. The 721 program with the RR Tay was purely theirs, many places put CFMs on DC-8s.
airplane800 UPS flys loaded both ways
Those green spots look like tears. Do you know why it didn't go to LH?
+TheYottaTube She was a bit "overweight" I believe ;/
It might be from first lufthansa 747-8i painted in old livery?
Lufthansa originally ordered this plane but they went back on it because it was a test bed I believe.
It would have been nice to know what happened to it
It was an early 747-8 with major manufacturing flaws and quality issues (sounds familiar to Boeing right? Although intensive test flying played a major role as well because Boeing had to do more test flying than agreed with Lufthansa because they screwed up their planning) and therefore was never accepted by Lufthansa. Instead it sits at Boeing to this day. I doubt it will ever property fly, maybe as a BCF if there will be one.
@@herrhornbuckele5227 thanks
Those tears of abandonment were apparently corrosive, they should have painted a happy face after the face lift!
is it possible for these planes (747-8) to fly with the triple 7's 2 GE90-115b engines (for fuel economy)...???
I'm sorry that you received such a awful reply from another viewer. Your question is valid and deserves an answer that is not written by a rude person. The short answer to your question is....no. Engines need to be carefully matched to the aircraft they power. In order to replace one engine type with another, both aircraft and engines need to be carefully redesigned and tested. That can take a long time and is expensive. Some of that engineering work has been done as General Electric flies a test 747 with the larger engine in the number two position. In the case of the 747 the wing and possibly the tail, would need to be extensively redesigned as well and that would be time consuming and expensive. The redesigned aircraft would need to be able to handle satisfactorily with the new engines under normal and abnormal conditions. Finally the new engines would need to create the same (or greater) amount of thrust of the engines they replace while improving operating costs at the same time. All of that depends on economics. Does Boeing have the desire to spend the time and money to redesign the 747? And.... are airlines willing to buy it? So, the long answer to your question is....yes, it is "possible."
@soaringtractor You are such a rude uncouth wanker of a troll who ruins the comments pages across many clips. You need to FUCK THE HELL OFF!
@soaringtractor Asshole ...stay on your backwood farm flying your tractors !
Soaringtractor is an asshole but he is still spitting facts about the GE-90.
Well Hell, it's got late model engines... They must have had good plans for it?
Hopefully it will be painted in Qantas colours.
Those are Lufthansa colours
I think the author meant to say it's been upgraded. As in the avionics, power plants, maybe airframe work. ("patched up")
Not using the right terminology? What's not clear as well is, is this supposed to be a test flight? In any case it would be a very expensive plane to operate and maintain.
Looks like it has a few new skins on the 41 section. The green spray lacquer still on them.
What happened, did it get in a bar fight
Possible test flight for a buyer??
Looks like it's for LH . But why is it being reworked !?
It was one of the first 748s and was used in certification and testflights and it had some quality issues and was therfore rejected by LH.
So strong plane! Can lift up 2 Million Tons!!Wrong??
+InsideIdaho Good! Really glad! Very nice plane!
I believe this is one of the two, being refitted for AF1
Nope
Those are now in San Antonio at the Boeing facility I believe. They were out in the desert without a home after TransAero went bankrupt.
why was it grounded - looks like the basis of an old Lufthansa paint scheme
What happened to her?
siegfriedo brabender She is sitting in the desert again. Kinda doubt she will ever be delivered to anyone.
I guess I'm a little disappointed with no info, I think most anyone in the industry ever has seen a 747 liftoff. Without the background story this video really doesn't mean much. What's the history of this bird. Why is this special?
She's beautiful! :D Isn't she just owned by Boeing for some private flights?
+Rosh-W Owned by Boeing after Lufthansa didn't take up this plane.
would make a nice personal jet
N8288A is assigned to a Piper PA-28. Either the N number was changed, DC'ed and then reassigned or incorrect to begin with. The 747-8 aircraft is currentLy not flying which is odd for a LH 8, they are absolute workhorses always airborne Frankfort to Beijing, Mexico City, Chicago, Wash D.C., Argentina, Brazil, Toronto/Montreal. LH bought 12, I wonder if this is one of the 12. It sure looks beat up, since the N number of bogus no use trying to discover the nature of any incident that busted up the nose and rudder.
British Airways I believe bought and services nearly all of these Aircraft from around the world ?
Kenneth Furley they use the 747-400 and 400ER.
Brand new aircraft patched? What happened to the plane? Bird strike?
Why did it need patches???
Bluecrayon 007 I’m also asking myself that
It was used for a LOT of flight testing, The patches cover where some of the test equipment was.
Appears to be parked in Victorville, CA for unknown reasons.
This is not Victorville, Ca.
I meant last seen in Victorville, CA, parked.
Is this a 747 BBj?
Not as of yet
@@MrBryan86 It's colour scheme might indicate a home in Frankfurt am Main ; time will tell .
Interesting film but with no context-what happened to this plane to keep it grounded for 2 years?
Boeing screwed up their certification planning back in the day, did extensive test flights also on this bird which lead to decreased quality of the aircraft and therefore Lufthansa rejecting the plane. Only chance to fly again is BCF imo.
@@herrhornbuckele5227 If it indeed goes BCF, do you think they will take off the upper deck or just put more cargo there?
@@6120mcghee taking it off would be a lot of afford. I think it would just be "dead space" as upper deck loaders don't exist yet. That would also be quite expensive. Nice crew rest though.
@@herrhornbuckele5227 Hell of an apartment!!!
wish lots more would be back to life 😕
This aircraft should be named ‘Nelly’.... Nellyville?
It is very bad for a complex Aircraft to stay on the ground for such a long time because hydraulical and electronical problems are very likely to occur in the next moths of service, even if there are brandnew engines. Think about possible damage history, additional cost and trouble resulting in no-go, rerouting etc.
New Air Force One 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tetris
Until GE and Rolls Royce can come up with better engines to power these behemoths in an economical way, these birds will be gone from the skies forever. They are just too expensive to operate.
Let Boeing give it to Putin. He is used to flying around in worn out airplanes
Fingers crossed for a crash with all hands lost.
What happened to her?
Overweight, therefore not as efficient as the later built 747-8s
MrBryan86 Terrible Teens huh? So they cut off some panels and replace those with lighter ones?
AaronShenghao MrBryan86 It is now in Arizona in the desert to be preserved until someone buys the plane... I only have a German article about that. www.aero.de/news-21753/Boeing-parkt-747-8-in-der-Wueste.html
+AaronShenghao.... This bird was intensily used in flight testing, and had some technical modifications that Lufthansa didn't like, for future maintenace. So lufthansa decided to cancel this order over this. Now stored in the desert for future buyers
+Morten B I thought airlines will get discount on those planes that were used as test planes... But I can see that coming. Since I think Boeing only have one 787-8i in their own livery.