Frank Vignola & Julian Lage in Woodstock, NY - October 24, 2010. So good! Frank played a set with Vinny Raniolo and then Julian Lage came up for a few numbers.
He's like this with everyone! and not just guitarist!! I'm becoming more convinced everyday that Julian is the best musician for the guitar that has come along since the already agreed upon giants. Artists like Mr. Lage remind me, that I feel fortunate to live at this time and witness.
I did keep an eye on Vinny and I agree, he IS an amazing player. I loved the contrast between the sound of his acoustic Collings guitar and that of the acoustic Parker archtop that Frank played for a few songs at the end of the gig. It was a magical set.
Revisiting this after a while: so nice to see all the comments. For all those who wonder what happened next: audience-member Jay Cunningham filmed and posted this (with my undying thanks, because our videographer had slept-in and missed it!), and his battery died just as Frank, Vinny and Julian all took off on a three-part, way-outside, manic, free improv orgy ending in laughing hysterics, dropped guitars and big hugs. Elation.
I do like this interpretation of nuages made by the two guitarists. There are plenty lot of positive and good emotions. Listening to the song we feel like traveling in a roulotte :-)
fuck those guys, brwilli6. We can get girls with our looks, well, our wits maybe... and dogged determination. They have to rely on their fucking guitars.
you are absolutely right! They're just playing the tune and using their ears. You can still feel the head of the tune throughout all of their improv breaks. Jazz is all about playing the tune and reinventing variations on the melody, not playing through the changes and soloing incessantly.
This comes very close to the excellent Twin House recording of Phillip Catherine and Larry Coryell. Watch their concert in Montreux, of which the first part of Nuages is also here on CZcams! In both cases it is congenial playing of two musicians who rather strive for underlining the other's improvisation than winning the shredding competition. Things never get out of hand, and it seems pure magic how they always remain within context, no matter how far off their scales seem. It makes me shiver how good both meet the playing idea of Django Reinhard. They come a lot closer than, say, Joscho Stephan, who often tends to drift away into showing off his (excellent) technique.
It's seven years since this recording. I think the energy bouts between the two are mostly good-natured. Julian has unintentionally prompted competitive behavior from virtuoso players who find themselves in head-to-head playing situations with a younger player who's gotten a lot of attention. He's competitive too but doesn't have a mean bone in his body. I've known him since age 12. We co-authored a long piece for Fretboard Journal and have played duos now and then over a long period. If you challenge him, he will respond and not back down. But I don't believe for a minute that he sees competition as the route to better music.
@@ideath173 I think you're right. Julian Lage is sort of the answer to, "What if a supremely gifted, prodigious guitar player, from an early age, were also *driven* to practice hard, every day, and was also given the IDEAL musical upbringing - conservatory, studied with the best teachers, taught and _then_ attended Berklee, and so on???" What would you get? You'd get Julian Lage." /// Tommy and Birelli are monster players, but their "ceilings" are maybe a mite lower than Julian's. For example, neither reads music notation, and neither has the formal ear-training and music theory that Julian has. And wait until he's forty-five!
As much as I hear about how revolutionary the Parker archtops are, and indeed Vignola sounds fabulous on this instrument, the more I'm struck that Julian is making essentially the same sounds and using the same techniques on his '32 L-5. Which proves, really, that the more things change, the more they stay the same. I'll take the L-5, thanks!
Lage: Fuck this guy. I KID!!! I LOVE him! Going toe to toe with VIgnola! BRAVE. Love em both so much. Been playing gtr for close to 40 yrs and these guys are GUITAR PLAYERS. So refreshing.
Listen to these guys: they're *improvising* around the melody and "form" of _Nuages_, all the time... They are NOT playing strings of multi-purpose LICKS. There are perhaps a few phrases they rely on to move from here to there... small things... but for the most part, they are really IMPROVISING. Composing the music right before our eyes, without blindly (and deafly?) running fingers up and down and across patterns and hoping it sounds "cool." This is the real sh*t.
Both guitars sound beautiful, especially in the hands of such great musicians, but to me the difference in sound is definitely apparent. You can hear a lot more bass in the Parker, and a lot more sustain. It doesn't have that glassy quality a lot of acoustic archtops have, the attack is warmer and it seems to handle almost like an electric. But I'd happily take either one!
I always think the same thing when I watch the Caravan video. Frank is so good, and Julian is just a monster. And having so much fun, seemingly. Vinnie's rhythm is insane too.
So awkward. they literally got in a shred fight starting at 5:00. Lage ended the tune and Vignola wanted to get the last say so he kept playing..and things got awkward by 5:25.. I mean people started to clap lol
Well, Frank gave Julian a respectful accompliment but wasn't given the same back. Julian playing all over him. So Frank obviously decided to get his turn at then end no matter what LOL. His tremelo picking is superior and tried to 'shred' Julien, but Julien made sure we couldn't hear that either. Lack of etiquette from Julien imo.
i just watched it again and Frank was kinda extra taking another run after they kinda ended the tune. But then again i really liked the kinda duel at the the end it sounded pretty cool lol. Tho lage's tremolo picking at the end gives Franks' the business
No, its not fighting. It's more like a game. It's julian puts out an idea and frank responds and then they mix in and it sounds great its fun I do it sometimes with other musicians, you lay out an idea and see what they come up with. The whole time julian isn't playing rhythm he's playing SUPPORT. He doesn't just play the chords he adds so much extra based off of what frank is playing. It's clearly not like he's mad and a fight its just having some fun.
Hopefully he's doing better since his accident. There was a GofundMe campaign in July but I think it is over now. I think the Parker guitar might have been offered to him at that Woodstock guitar show but I'm not sure it was an outright gift.
Agreed, but then he did have, from day one, some of the best teachers in the country, and attended San Francisco Music Conservatory, etc. The ear-training is his big boon, I think. Vignola is absolutely no slouch, however.
![This improvisation left me speechless... [Julian Lage]](/img/n.gif)
Listening and watching again many years later - Frank is the technical and musical equal of Julian - all day long, as they say
I was there and I can testify: Frank and Julian (and Vinny Raniolo) were sublime. And, oh, that Parker archtop!
It’s so nice to see a next generation masterfully carrying this torch
indeed!!
One of the best versions of this song I've ever heard. Thanks.
He's like this with everyone! and not just guitarist!! I'm becoming more convinced everyday that Julian is the best musician for the guitar that has come along since the already agreed upon giants. Artists like Mr. Lage remind me, that I feel fortunate to live at this time and witness.
these guys are masters on a whole other level my God!
OUAIS...CA FAIT DU BIEN...MERCI POUR LA LECON JE M'Y REMETS!!!
I did keep an eye on Vinny and I agree, he IS an amazing player. I loved the contrast between the sound of his acoustic Collings guitar and that of the acoustic Parker archtop that Frank played for a few songs at the end of the gig. It was a magical set.
Revisiting this after a while: so nice to see all the comments. For all those who wonder what happened next: audience-member Jay Cunningham filmed and posted this (with my undying thanks, because our videographer had slept-in and missed it!), and his battery died just as Frank, Vinny and Julian all took off on a three-part, way-outside, manic, free improv orgy ending in laughing hysterics, dropped guitars and big hugs. Elation.
I do like this interpretation of nuages made by the two guitarists. There are plenty lot of positive and good emotions. Listening to the song we feel like traveling in a roulotte :-)
I can't beleive someone clicked thumbs down! This is fantastic!
A great version of one of my favourite tunes
Wow, that is just ferocious at the end when they both start going off! Sweet playing, will definitely check out more of your clips.
Two geniouses
Damn beautiful!
Amazing stuff.
Yes! It was not possible to get all three of them on camera but Vinny was very much in the mix!
This performance is more delicious than the most expensive caviar in the world! Thanks for the video 👍
INCREIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I used to play guitar. Up until 5 minutes and 47 seconds ago.
fuck those guys, brwilli6. We can get girls with our looks, well, our wits maybe... and dogged determination. They have to rely on their fucking guitars.
it's not a crasy "nuages". you can approach your own artistic way, technic is not all
Why quit?
Don’t worry about man, it’s a fake, these guys don’t exist... ;)
Very nice rendition...!
you are absolutely right! They're just playing the tune and using their ears. You can still feel the head of the tune throughout all of their improv breaks. Jazz is all about playing the tune and reinventing variations on the melody, not playing through the changes and soloing incessantly.
ils jouent ensemble , avec des duos de chorus d'une musicalité , simple et étudiée , super
OMG, pure genius!
This comes very close to the excellent Twin House recording of Phillip Catherine and Larry Coryell. Watch their concert in Montreux, of which the first part of Nuages is also here on CZcams! In both cases it is congenial playing of two musicians who rather strive for underlining the other's improvisation than winning the shredding competition. Things never get out of hand, and it seems pure magic how they always remain within context, no matter how far off their scales seem.
It makes me shiver how good both meet the playing idea of Django Reinhard. They come a lot closer than, say, Joscho Stephan, who often tends to drift away into showing off his (excellent) technique.
Great job
Wow lovely guitar music here. Django would be proud... LOL
Django, Wes, Charlie Christian... You name it
omg yes!!!!
just great players....wow...
Up there, Way up there!
I played one of those Parkers. It was the loudest box I ever heard.
It's seven years since this recording. I think the energy bouts between the two are mostly good-natured. Julian has unintentionally prompted competitive behavior from virtuoso players who find themselves in head-to-head playing situations with a younger player who's gotten a lot of attention. He's competitive too but doesn't have a mean bone in his body. I've known him since age 12. We co-authored a long piece for Fretboard Journal and have played duos now and then over a long period. If you challenge him, he will respond and not back down. But I don't believe for a minute that he sees competition as the route to better music.
No one can touch him.
Both sixty year old Tommy and Birelli could hang w Julian, who is 23.
@@ideath173 I think you're right. Julian Lage is sort of the answer to, "What if a supremely gifted, prodigious guitar player, from an early age, were also *driven* to practice hard, every day, and was also given the IDEAL musical upbringing - conservatory, studied with the best teachers, taught and _then_ attended Berklee, and so on???" What would you get? You'd get Julian Lage." /// Tommy and Birelli are monster players, but their "ceilings" are maybe a mite lower than Julian's. For example, neither reads music notation, and neither has the formal ear-training and music theory that Julian has. And wait until he's forty-five!
Excellent
Grandma Mary
As much as I hear about how revolutionary the Parker archtops are, and indeed Vignola sounds fabulous on this instrument, the more I'm struck that Julian is making essentially the same sounds and using the same techniques on his '32 L-5. Which proves, really, that the more things change, the more they stay the same. I'll take the L-5, thanks!
Julian's tone is a tad too bright at certain moments but i agree
very nice!
damn. this quite hits the spot on nuages
JL plays two notes and it's clear what you are "dealing" with....it's like Pletnev playing any composer...IMPOSSIBLE beauty !!!
Rpguitar, Julian got that L-5 from me, and (while it's a fine guitar) the thing that makes it sound astounding is him driving it.
Lage: Fuck this guy. I KID!!! I LOVE him! Going toe to toe with VIgnola! BRAVE. Love em both so much. Been playing gtr for close to 40 yrs and these guys are GUITAR PLAYERS. So refreshing.
fantastic contrast between the two players..
That's a beautiful Ken Parker archtop Frank is
Playing there
What the hell is this good.
1:22 Sweet!
Looks like a Beyer Dynamic m160 on Vignola's Parker? what a gorgeous guitar that is!!
I think you may be right. It's funny to see the mic up so high but that's where the soundhole is. In any event the sound was great as I remember.
They were going all "Friday Night in San Francisco" in trying to find an ending...(together) and the video settled that by just stopping :-(
omg
Listen to these guys: they're *improvising* around the melody and "form" of _Nuages_, all the time... They are NOT playing strings of multi-purpose LICKS. There are perhaps a few phrases they rely on to move from here to there... small things... but for the most part, they are really IMPROVISING. Composing the music right before our eyes, without blindly (and deafly?) running fingers up and down and across patterns and hoping it sounds "cool." This is the real sh*t.
Lol who are you referring to "blindly running fingers up and down"?
Yea and it's a load of cobblers
With the great Vinny Raniolo off-camera on rhythm guitar!
Baker Rorick I hear two guitars. Why would they hide Vinnie?
I think Django would approve :)
Those super Americana sounding runs Frank Vignola keeps tossing in kinda throw me. They feel more like jokes than a real part of the music.
NO one can touch Julian.
Freedom!
I just posted an embed of this on Ken Parker's website.
@vonalxao1 yeah he is.
Explosion.
Julian is clearly the future. But why did the clip end before the end? Was interested to see how these two would finally come to rest.
He is the present now !
HOW DO DEY DO DAT?????
sick. sick.
And julian is thinking, yay! I get to play guitar... zennnnnnnnn
Both guitars sound beautiful, especially in the hands of such great musicians, but to me the difference in sound is definitely apparent. You can hear a lot more bass in the Parker, and a lot more sustain. It doesn't have that glassy quality a lot of acoustic archtops have, the attack is warmer and it seems to handle almost like an electric. But I'd happily take either one!
just starting to get somewhere..
Note how Lage screws up the melody at 1:01and then at 1:05 he realizes and smiles, sorta-kinda fixes it...
both amazing players, franks solo was cut very short comparatively though..
Frank is thinking, i cant let this kid cut me on my own gig!!!
I always think the same thing when I watch the Caravan video. Frank is so good, and Julian is just a monster. And having so much fun, seemingly. Vinnie's rhythm is insane too.
So awkward.
they literally got in a shred fight starting at 5:00.
Lage ended the tune and Vignola wanted to get the last say so he kept playing..and things got awkward by 5:25..
I mean people started to clap lol
That's gypsy jazz these days. I always found that lage plays gypsy like django used to, with musical taste.
Well, Frank gave Julian a respectful accompliment but wasn't given the same back. Julian playing all over him. So Frank obviously decided to get his turn at then end no matter what LOL. His tremelo picking is superior and tried to 'shred' Julien, but Julien made sure we couldn't hear that either. Lack of etiquette from Julien imo.
Robert Brown lol wtf i dont get this from this at all. They do this in both songs they play. easily having fun.
i just watched it again and Frank was kinda extra taking another run after they kinda ended the tune. But then again i really liked the kinda duel at the the end it sounded pretty cool lol.
Tho lage's tremolo picking at the end gives Franks' the business
No, its not fighting. It's more like a game. It's julian puts out an idea and frank responds and then they mix in and it sounds great its fun I do it sometimes with other musicians, you lay out an idea and see what they come up with. The whole time julian isn't playing rhythm he's playing SUPPORT. He doesn't just play the chords he adds so much extra based off of what frank is playing. It's clearly not like he's mad and a fight its just having some fun.
real sweet stuff! is Frank related to Nick Brignola, the great sax player from Troy, NY?
Large is cut from the same cloth as Frank
Who's Large?
Alliens playing guitars...
What boner kill ending.
It continues in the next video...
@vonalxao1 which one did u buy?
The guitars are so spanky
Is that a Parker?
Brian Kubarycz
Yes it is. Sounded great.
Jay Cunningham Looks very cool. And it projects like crazy.
Frank must be doing well if he can afford a Ken Parker guitar ;)
Hopefully he's doing better since his accident. There was a GofundMe campaign in July but I think it is over now. I think the Parker guitar might have been offered to him at that Woodstock guitar show but I'm not sure it was an outright gift.
I was unaware he had an accident. A musician's worst nightmare. Hope he's doing better now.
I can play this song...... Not like THIS
lol wat
two bad guitars tryin to beat their players-
Lage is waaaaaaaaaaaaay better
Agreed, but then he did have, from day one, some of the best teachers in the country, and attended San Francisco Music Conservatory, etc. The ear-training is his big boon, I think. Vignola is absolutely no slouch, however.
frank win
Frank isn't a pimple on Julian's ass. Puh-lease. Julian is so far ahead of anyone.
Are they playing football, no, it takes both of them to win at jamming.
Frank Vignola is the most overrated jazz guitarist
That's just a mean thing to say d-head.