My Sportage PHEV is almost identical to your tester. The Sportage in Germany, other than being left hand drive has adaptive dampers for the suspension which give the car a great ride. I use pure electric mode for in city driving, which I love because it‘s not only most efficient in the city, the silent running calms nerves in city traffic. On autobahn trips I use HEV mode, which barely ever taps into the electric range, effectively saving most of the charge for the city. (For me, in effect “save mode”). With mostly autobahn driving, I used 3/4 of a tank of fuel, and my electric range went down from 70 to 60 km, and that mostly because I often forget to select HEV when I start out driving. It would be nice if the car “remembered” the last drive setting. I charge my car once or twice a week for what I need. I don’t expect free charging (no free lunch). I use my Kia Charge account which gives me access to most charging companies, at least here in Germany. Just one time registering, inputting payment method and then you’re all set. Curiously the best price for charging is by my local utility, the Stadtwerk München at 50 cents per kilowatt hour. (It was 29 cents before the war in Ukraine broke out). I hope your experience improves. All the best.
Hey Jeff, thanks so much for this comment. Loads of information here. Really helps other users as well with sharing your experience. Thanks again for taking the time to leave a comment and chat with me 🤗
Keep it daily fully charged overnight even on a slow level one cable plugged into a 13a socket with the charger controller set to the lowest setting at 6a to prevent the 13a plug getting warm, from 15% when it says zero mls to 100% takes about 11hrs or 1hr 40mins on a 7.2kw level 2 charger. Then use in EV only for commutes within the 43ml range and or local journeys, in this way during summer months a full tank of fuel lasted me 5 mths and 3,500 mls. Although these figures reduce in winter mths. On long journeys just run it in hybrid or auto modes. Works a treat for me.
@CarChatTV - If you want to charge the battery fast, you can use the Hybrid and Sport modes. The extra engine power will be used to recharge the battery.
Yeah it didn’t charge it enough for me and when I gave the car back the battery was still on 0 miles 🤷🏻♂️ it’s needs a save option to cut the battery off completely to just focus on the charge.
The battery dies say zero but there is always about 12 percent in it. Drive in sport at itcwill put more charge in the battery over the hybrid mode...but ut will eat more petrol. I've had it charge to about 75 percent in sport mode on a motorway drive. To be fair the battery only offers about a 40 mile range when full...real life it's about 25 miles.
Thanks for the video, I am in the process of buying that exact car. I don't think that is a big deal, as this is a PHEV. The battery is too big to be charged with regenerative breaking. I think the best use is to just drive in EV mode for short trips around city, then once I am down to 15-20% I switch to hybrid. Of course recharge daily over night.
Okay.........please bear with me and a stupid question as I am just starting to look at PHEVs etc but, when the electric range/charge in this Kia battery gets to 0%, does that mean you are stuck and unable to drive it all in any other mode? If this just means that you cannot use the electric/battery capability until you are able to plug it in and re-charge it then, although that situation being permitted to happen doesn't sound ideal, it certainly isn't the apocalyptic event this is made to sound like in this video? 🤔
I have a Sportage Phev (23 plate) and the battery is 'managed' in such a way that it never goes completely flat, but rather when the charge is 'low' (at about 25%), the petrol engine will increasingly 'kick in' and at the same time it will re-charge the battery. On long journeys I've noticed how, (particularly when 'pulling away' at traffic lights, junctions and roundabout etc), the battery will kick-in for a time even when the charge indicator is 'showing' very low. However, as I said before, the battery will never discharge completely. Incidentally, having had my 'Phev' for 4 months now, my impression is that whatever 'mode' is selected, that the car will always 'default' to using the battery powered motor rather than the petrol powered engine.
I have a 2024 PHEV Xline Prestige, it's the greatest thing ever! Regarding charging I do not have a problem due to the fact that I have free level 2 charging at work and home. Also charging station within every couple of miles if need. I have the car for over a month now and my gasoline usage is less than 1 gallon so far. Only been using EV, but I do use hybrid mode once in awhile just to keep the petrol engine active. At this rate, I will only need to get fuel once every 8-9 months. If you have issue with the ability to charge at will, then PHEV is not for you. Doesn't matter if you want a PHEV that can recharge while using Petrol. It is not convenient enough to have. Regular Hybrid would be the better option. Choosing a car that best fit your daily commute and life style, not what it can or can not do. In your situation, this PHEV or any PHEV is not ideal for you. Just an honest option.
Totally agree. I bought the XCeed PHEV because of my driving characteristics and have now had it for three years. I think I have filled up 7 or 8 times? Plus there is a Sport mode which definitely charges the battery up. On a longish drive I will often select Sport and if I wanted, can fully charge the battery within an hour. I love the car I have, though it's a bit small ............ hence I'm looking at the Sportage.
A PHEV, with it´s limited range on EV, you of course use mainly for daily short driving up to 50-60 km. On the few long trips you use the engine. In total distance I use 80-90 % battery. I do not understand any of your concerns, perhaps you should buy a pure EV or ICE car instead. I always charge at home. If you don´t have home charging possibility just don´t buy a PHEV..
i thought the point of this car was to only drive electric while your in hometown,,, save money on gas prices. occasionally when you go on trips you need the petrol. i will buy this today and also get a box installed at home where i can recharge it every night, gonna save alot of money on petrol. finally going hybrid
@@peggeMEGA I use EV mode on all short distance or the engine can start for some reason. When battery is too low the system goes to HEV mode automatically. Some users use the Auto mode all the time, depends on your driving pattern.
@@peggeMEGA The biggest disadvantage with this car it will start the engine to heat the car. So if you live in cold climate I advice to preheat the car before setting off.
My Sportage PHEV is identical to his tester. The engine comes on only if the heater is needed, i.e. if it‘s colder outside than what you‘ve set on the climate system. When it’s warm out, I can use the AC in full electric mode no problem.
Why do you want to charge it whilst out? I’ve done 72k miles in Niro plug-ins and Sportage on its way. Company cars - if I ever go to the office I’ll charge, otherwise never charge them. Makes no difference to how they drive. If you can charge at home overnight on a cheap tariff then do so, otherwise don’t bother. Why would you want to put it in a mode that uses more petrol to charge the battery?! Hold is a little different as you could waft through a town purely on battery power. I’m never bored enough to play with the modes - just leave it to do its own thing.
Thanks for the comment and sharing your thoughts, I couldn’t charge it at home as I didn’t have the the 3 pin plug and I don’t have a wall box to charge. So I couldn’t get the charge back in as the car couldn’t get miles back into the battery. I gave it back with 0 miles in the battery. Great car, love the sportages. But I do like options. Thanks for chatting with us 🤗
Phev don’t make sense unless you can charge at home or office Getting the car ice to charge the battery makes no sense from an efficiency stand point The only real use is if you want to drive very quietly somewhere later such as at a conservation area or not disturbing your neighbour late at night I have this feature in my phev and I think it’s not very effective If someone wants an efficient car and can’t plug in buy a hybrid. If you drive a Phev and never plug it in it will be less fuel efficient than a hybrid because you are carrying around extra battery weight !
@@CarChatTV Sounds like EV is not the way to for you. Also doesn't make sense to use the engine as the sole means to charge the battery. Thanks for the video...ps nothing is "free".
I assumed the whole idea of a plug in hybrid was that the petrol engine would recharge the battery ! If it doesn't then what's the point of having an engine !? 🤔
That's the idea of a hybrid, for sure. In the case of a plug-in, the battery is still charged by the gasoline engine and regenerative braking, but it's still helpful to be able to plug it in to allow for full EV mode where you use no gas at all :)
You got the wrong idea. The point of PHEV is to use the battery for EV range, considering the average we drive daily is not too much above that range. My commute to work is 7 miles each way, it means I can recharge it daily and use the rest for a short errand or something. It was never the idea to recharge that battery using the gas engine, it is simply too big for that (even if it was much smaller than a full EV battery). A friend of mine uses it like that and he could possibly fill it once every 1000-1200 miles.
When I need to recharge, I put on Sport mode which keeps the petrol engine on. It recharges quite slowly, though.
Thanks for the comment🤗 brilliant I hope this helps other owners too. I Appreciate you chatting to me 😁
My Sportage PHEV is almost identical to your tester. The Sportage in Germany, other than being left hand drive has adaptive dampers for the suspension which give the car a great ride. I use pure electric mode for in city driving, which I love because it‘s not only most efficient in the city, the silent running calms nerves in city traffic.
On autobahn trips I use HEV mode, which barely ever taps into the electric range, effectively saving most of the charge for the city. (For me, in effect “save mode”). With mostly autobahn driving, I used 3/4 of a tank of fuel, and my electric range went down from 70 to 60 km, and that mostly because I often forget to select HEV when I start out driving. It would be nice if the car “remembered” the last drive setting.
I charge my car once or twice a week for what I need. I don’t expect free charging (no free lunch). I use my Kia Charge account which gives me access to most charging companies, at least here in Germany. Just one time registering, inputting payment method and then you’re all set. Curiously the best price for charging is by my local utility, the Stadtwerk München at 50 cents per kilowatt hour. (It was 29 cents before the war in Ukraine broke out).
I hope your experience improves. All the best.
Hey Jeff, thanks so much for this comment. Loads of information here. Really helps other users as well with sharing your experience. Thanks again for taking the time to leave a comment and chat with me 🤗
That's why I got the petrol (i.e. gas) one!!!
Smart move. Thanks for sharing 🤗
Keep it daily fully charged overnight even on a slow level one cable plugged into a 13a socket with the charger controller set to the lowest setting at 6a to prevent the 13a plug getting warm, from 15% when it says zero mls to 100% takes about 11hrs or 1hr 40mins on a 7.2kw level 2 charger. Then use in EV only for commutes within the 43ml range and or local journeys, in this way during summer months a full tank of fuel lasted me 5 mths and 3,500 mls. Although these figures reduce in winter mths. On long journeys just run it in hybrid or auto modes. Works a treat for me.
@CarChatTV - If you want to charge the battery fast, you can use the Hybrid and Sport modes. The extra engine power will be used to recharge the battery.
The problem you describe is solved with putting the car in sport mode then it also charges the battary :D
Yeah it didn’t charge it enough for me and when I gave the car back the battery was still on 0 miles 🤷🏻♂️ it’s needs a save option to cut the battery off completely to just focus on the charge.
@@CarChatTV yes but otherwise it’s a nice car id say:)
The battery dies say zero but there is always about 12 percent in it. Drive in sport at itcwill put more charge in the battery over the hybrid mode...but ut will eat more petrol. I've had it charge to about 75 percent in sport mode on a motorway drive.
To be fair the battery only offers about a 40 mile range when full...real life it's about 25 miles.
@@jpugolf1727 what do you mean "real life" do u mean they lie?
Thx, that's great.
Thanks for the video, I am in the process of buying that exact car. I don't think that is a big deal, as this is a PHEV. The battery is too big to be charged with regenerative breaking. I think the best use is to just drive in EV mode for short trips around city, then once I am down to 15-20% I switch to hybrid. Of course recharge daily over night.
Awsome, thanks for the comment and sharing what you will do with the car. Always great to hear what others think. Thanks for chatting with us 🤗
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Hey, thank you so much. Oh I love scratch card lady. I will say thank you to her. Thanks for the sub 🤗
Okay.........please bear with me and a stupid question as I am just starting to look at PHEVs etc but, when the electric range/charge in this Kia battery gets to 0%, does that mean you are stuck and unable to drive it all in any other mode? If this just means that you cannot use the electric/battery capability until you are able to plug it in and re-charge it then, although that situation being permitted to happen doesn't sound ideal, it certainly isn't the apocalyptic event this is made to sound like in this video? 🤔
I have a Sportage Phev (23 plate) and the battery is 'managed' in such a way that it never goes completely flat, but rather when the charge is 'low' (at about 25%), the petrol engine will increasingly 'kick in' and at the same time it will re-charge the battery.
On long journeys I've noticed how, (particularly when 'pulling away' at traffic lights, junctions and roundabout etc), the battery will kick-in for a time even when the charge indicator is 'showing' very low. However, as I said before, the battery will never discharge completely.
Incidentally, having had my 'Phev' for 4 months now, my impression is that whatever 'mode' is selected, that the car will always 'default' to using the battery powered motor rather than the petrol powered engine.
Ford Kuga PHEV has the charge and save battery for later mode
I have a 2024 PHEV Xline Prestige, it's the greatest thing ever! Regarding charging I do not have a problem due to the fact that I have free level 2 charging at work and home. Also charging station within every couple of miles if need. I have the car for over a month now and my gasoline usage is less than 1 gallon so far. Only been using EV, but I do use hybrid mode once in awhile just to keep the petrol engine active. At this rate, I will only need to get fuel once every 8-9 months. If you have issue with the ability to charge at will, then PHEV is not for you. Doesn't matter if you want a PHEV that can recharge while using Petrol. It is not convenient enough to have. Regular Hybrid would be the better option. Choosing a car that best fit your daily commute and life style, not what it can or can not do. In your situation, this PHEV or any PHEV is not ideal for you. Just an honest option.
Totally agree. I bought the XCeed PHEV because of my driving characteristics and have now had it for three years. I think I have filled up 7 or 8 times? Plus there is a Sport mode which definitely charges the battery up. On a longish drive I will often select Sport and if I wanted, can fully charge the battery within an hour. I love the car I have, though it's a bit small ............ hence I'm looking at the Sportage.
A PHEV, with it´s limited range on EV, you of course use mainly for daily short driving up to 50-60 km. On the few long trips you use the engine. In total distance I use 80-90 % battery. I do not understand any of your concerns, perhaps you should buy a pure EV or ICE car instead. I always charge at home. If you don´t have home charging possibility just don´t buy a PHEV..
Good point.
Would be interesting to know from owners before I decide to buy.
Thanks for the comment Mark! Yes I’d be keen to hear from real world owners also. Appreciate you stopping by to chat 🤗
i thought the point of this car was to only drive electric while your in hometown,,, save money on gas prices. occasionally when you go on trips you need the petrol. i will buy this today and also get a box installed at home where i can recharge it every night, gonna save alot of money on petrol. finally going hybrid
Exactly what I´m been doing for the last 3 years. The cheapest running cost I ever had on a car.
@@yogajedi3337 is it best to just leave it on auto at all times?
@@peggeMEGA I use EV mode on all short distance or the engine can start for some reason. When battery is too low the system goes to HEV mode automatically. Some users use the Auto mode all the time, depends on your driving pattern.
@@peggeMEGA The biggest disadvantage with this car it will start the engine to heat the car. So if you live in cold climate I advice to preheat the car before setting off.
@@yogajedi3337 i guess same goes for cooling the car when its hot summer? uses petrol aswell?
Can the car run on pure EV when turning on the heat or AC?
Нет. Если вы включаете обогрев, то запускается бензиновый двигатель.
No. Petrol engine comes on pretty much instantly. We have a 73 plate.
My Sportage PHEV is identical to his tester. The engine comes on only if the heater is needed, i.e. if it‘s colder outside than what you‘ve set on the climate system. When it’s warm out, I can use the AC in full electric mode no problem.
just drove one of these yesterday and that was my exact major disappointment as well, esp for the price
Sport mode charges battery and uses engine
Thanks for the comment 🤗
When you use sport mode does that give you more power ?
Why do you want to charge it whilst out? I’ve done 72k miles in Niro plug-ins and Sportage on its way.
Company cars - if I ever go to the office I’ll charge, otherwise never charge them. Makes no difference to how they drive.
If you can charge at home overnight on a cheap tariff then do so, otherwise don’t bother.
Why would you want to put it in a mode that uses more petrol to charge the battery?! Hold is a little different as you could waft through a town purely on battery power.
I’m never bored enough to play with the modes - just leave it to do its own thing.
Thanks for the comment and sharing your thoughts, I couldn’t charge it at home as I didn’t have the the 3 pin plug and I don’t have a wall box to charge. So I couldn’t get the charge back in as the car couldn’t get miles back into the battery. I gave it back with 0 miles in the battery. Great car, love the sportages. But I do like options. Thanks for chatting with us 🤗
Phev don’t make sense unless you can charge at home or office
Getting the car ice to charge the battery makes no sense from an efficiency stand point
The only real use is if you want to drive very quietly somewhere later such as at a conservation area or not disturbing your neighbour late at night
I have this feature in my phev and I think it’s not very effective
If someone wants an efficient car and can’t plug in buy a hybrid.
If you drive a Phev and never plug it in it will be less fuel efficient than a hybrid because you are carrying around extra battery weight !
@@CarChatTV Sounds like EV is not the way to for you. Also doesn't make sense to use the engine as the sole means to charge the battery.
Thanks for the video...ps nothing is "free".
I assumed the whole idea of a plug in hybrid was that the petrol engine would recharge the battery ! If it doesn't then what's the point of having an engine !? 🤔
That's the idea of a hybrid, for sure. In the case of a plug-in, the battery is still charged by the gasoline engine and regenerative braking, but it's still helpful to be able to plug it in to allow for full EV mode where you use no gas at all :)
@@KennadyatKia cool !
You got the wrong idea. The point of PHEV is to use the battery for EV range, considering the average we drive daily is not too much above that range. My commute to work is 7 miles each way, it means I can recharge it daily and use the rest for a short errand or something. It was never the idea to recharge that battery using the gas engine, it is simply too big for that (even if it was much smaller than a full EV battery). A friend of mine uses it like that and he could possibly fill it once every 1000-1200 miles.
Автомобиль не опускает уровень заряда батареи ниже 15%. При таком уровне заряда вы не можете использовать EV режим, только hybrid.
Thanks 🤗
is he joking when he adds a French accent?
Plugin sportage forget it
I only plug in at home or work never on visits never on long trips never a problem looks like click bait to me
How do you charge the battery up when driving. What option do you use? Thanks for the comment and chatting to us 🤗
Shouldn't ever got plugin . Need gts hev