Quimera Review and History, La Feria de Chapultepec | World's Most Intense Roller Coaster
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- Quimera is the most intense roller coaster I have ever ridden. Located at La Feria de Chapultepec in Mexico City, Quimera is currently in the process of being removed piece by piece. Indiana Beach announced on 11/24/2020 that they would be adding a relocated Schwarzkopf triple looper for the 2021 season and it's strongly suspected to be Quimera.
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Even though it was slightly trimmed, I was really surprised at how intense Magnum Force was. I really HATE those old accordion style restraints. Those restraints cracked my back during a video shoot on Thriller. As odd and restrictive as those shoulder straps were, I didn't mind them. Great job on the video!
Thanks! Magnum Force looked plenty intense too, but the way Quimera really picked up speed at the end was unbelievable.
I keep seeing mentions of Magnum force but no Steel vengeance?? I think vengeance is way more intense ,personally. Am I the only one??
@@BytheTicket222 SV is a completely different type of intense in my opinion as while it does offer insane airtime, it doesn't offer the intensity of the positive and laterals that Magnum Force had when I rode it. While I do love SV, it isn't the most intense coaster I have ridden.
0:48 “I’m skeptical if it’ll ever operate again”. I love that I’m watching this as I am getting ready to ride it this weekend on its reopening day.
Hopefully it rides as well.
@@CanobieCoaster It’s still amazing. The ejector pops on those two back to back bunny hills are replaced with weak floater. But the ride is still stupidly intense, and kinda violent (in a good way).
@@hoosiercoasterfan2655Is the neck chopping as bad as everyone says? I'm going on the 14th and all I've heard about it is that it rides horribly with the restraints.
The sway on the loop is unbelievable
It really is shocking.
I rode this last Thursday for Media Day at Indiana Beach... This is the most intense coaster I have been on. I don't really grey out... yeah that double loop.... I GREYED OUT! I thought I was about to black out... That third loop I didn't find as intense as you did. To me the two drops followed by the double loops is insane. The shoulder harnesses from Mindbender are brutal... not gonna lie.
Glad it is still intense! The key with those accordion harnesses is to sit up straight and maintain that position.
Thusies always rave about airtime but positive Gs are underrated.
I prefer airtime, but positive Gs have their spot too!
Positive Gs suck. Negative Gs feel like soaring majestically through the air; positive Gs feel like being put into a blender.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it pulled 6 g’s
I wish I had the ride forces app when I rode this.
That would not shock me.
Canobie Coaster honestly i thought that (before quimera derailed) if another coaster derailed the next one would be quimera or maybe Olympia looping, but I wasn’t too surprised when quimera derailed, but It still saddened me to hear the news on the day it did
I never want to speculate what the next coaster to have an accident will be, but I remember writing back in 2018 that Quimera felt like it was going to tear itself apart. That comment didn't age well.
As for Olympia Looping, I saw them walking the track every morning and since that's owned by a showman, keeping that ride in top operating condition is more critical or else their bottom line suffers more.
@@CanobieCoaster like i was saying if i had to take a guess for some reason, but i still wouldnt have thought any would have
I still have childhood memories of this great coaster, when it was operated as the "Dreier Looping" at the Oktoberfest in 1988. It was a real challenge back then to take a ride on this one for a child. I decided to take a ride on the Himalaya Bahn, which is still in Germany as a traveling roller coaster. 1988 was unfortunately the last year at the Oktoberfest for the Dreier Looping, as the Olympia Looping followed in 1989. I am very sad that I never rode this great coaster in it's original way, as it was operated in the 80ies. In 2019 it must have been a real g-force slammer... Thanks for the pictures. I am a great enthusiastic for the classic Schwarzkopf rides.
I love the two Schwarzkopfs currently on the fair circuit, but Quimera in its current state tops them.
@@CanobieCoaster Yes, for sure. The current Alpina Bahn got new trains and runs like it used to back to these days in the early 80ies, a little slower and with less G-forces. The former roller coaster "Thriller": This was also once a traveling roller coaster from Schwarzkopf, which was last operated in Mexico under the name "Tsunami" and has been stored there for 4 years. This roller coaster was about 6.5g.
@@woelfcen I always wanted to try Tsunami but I'm not sure I'll ever be able to ride it.
Indiana beach has it and they are taking good care. I hoped to ride but it looks like it won't open this year or at least when I visit next couple of weeks
Best review yet!
Thanks!
I briefly touched upon my experience in my other comment thread, but now that it’s been a week and a half since I rode this crazy thing, the experience is still fresh in my head, so I thought I’d go a little more in depth about my experience.
A buddy of mine summed up the coaster in the best way possible, he called it a “Rated R Coaster”, which I couldn’t have said it better myself, the ride is violent in the best way possible. It’s one of the most intense roller coasters I’ve ridden, I don’t typically gray out on coasters. In fact of the nearly 100 coasters I’ve ridden, only 4 have caused me to lose my vision, Millennium Force (the pullout of the first drop), Batman at SFGAM, Kumba, and now this. It’s not rough at all, it’s just that the transitions are so tight (they have to be, it’s a compact traveling coaster) that your head is naturally gonna be thrown from side to side. I love this ride, it’s far and away the best coaster at Indiana Beach, and it’s the best steel coaster in the state of Indiana (which there isn’t much competition, but it’s competing with a B&M). I think it is a welcomed addition to my home park.
I’m so glad I was able to ride this 3 times on the 11th. If you would’ve told me from 4 years ago that I’d be riding Quimera (as it was called at the time) at my home park, I’d call you crazy, especially considering the fact that the park was getting ready to close permanently. But 4 years later that became a reality, and it was well worth the long wait.
I'm glad it still packs a mighty punch.
I have such mixed feelings on this coaster. The ride experience in your review sounds incredible and I so wish I could have experienced it. At the same time, after reading the accident investigation report, I'm kind of glad I didn't. Great review, the ride looks so unassuming on video, so the personal account gives a lot more veracity.
You can get 75% of Quimera on Galaxyland's Mindbender. You just don't have the breakneck laterals at the end and the airtime on the bleed-off hills.
I actually have been on Galaxyland’s Mindbender 😀. I enjoyed it so much that I was eager to try its wilder cousin to compare the two. Hope to see a Mindbender review at some point!
@@CivilianSatellite I believe I have the footage to do one! I just wish I had started taking video sooner since I have a large stockpile of photos and am relying on copyright free videos to fill in the gaps.
Canobie Coaster Wouldn’t you also consider using some of your photos in reviews, or is that just too low tech?
@@StamfordBridge I definitely don't mind using my photos if I have enough to cover the entirety of the ride (ex. Medusa Steel Coaster).
Informative, great review that helped me hone my own impressions of the coaster a little more.
I first hit this park on my second day in Mexico City, so I had already adjusted to the altitude. Also, I was there in Spring of 2019, not in the intense summer heat. Probably for these reasons, I was able to marathon this coaster on both of the days I ended up visiting the park. Marathoning it was physically intense, but no worse than, say, marathoning Voyage, which is also physically demanding. I got about fifteen rides over two non-consecutive days.
You’re right about the lack of trims being what makes it feel wild and crazy. For me the most intense moment was one you didn’t emphasize: that steep banked drop. It threw me around in such a weird and unnerving way!
Also, the restraints were an absolutely comical apparatus. It took two or three rides just for me to develop my skills in successfully getting into it, and then successfully figuring out how to fasten it across the chest, and then managing to pull them together enough to do so. It was weird that I felt I had to develop these “skills,” but that’s what it felt like. And every time I sat down it felt like a race to accomplish the fastening of the restraints before the ops got to me. Lol.
It was a fun coaster, and I hope that it can be saved in some way, though I doubt it will.
Btw, maybe you don’t care, but fwiw the stress in “Feria” is on the first syllable, and the stress in “Chapultepec” is on the second syllable.
I rode Quimera on my second day in Mexico City, but the altitude was bothering me more on day 2. I agree those restraints are a comedy of errors and it's doubtful the coaster ever runs again and if it does, it likely won't run like it did in its final years.
As for the pronunciation, Spanish was never my strong suit haha.
Canobie Coaster I took “AltitudeRX” leading up to the trip. I don’t know if it made a difference, but I will say that whenever I’ve gone backpacking at 7K feet or higher, I usually feel it very strongly on the first day, but on this MX trip I had just the slightest out-of-breath feeling on the first afternoon and that was it. I’ll be taking AltitudeRX again for any similar trip!
As for the pronunciation, it’s standard in Spanish that unless otherwise accented the stress is always on the penultimate syllable, so your instinct on both words was sound! It just so happens these are weird words.
@@StamfordBridge I'll definitely look into AltitudeRX next time as that would help me enjoy the trip so much more.
The third loop is just 💛
It's intense.
I had to double check I didn't have 2X speed on, it flies!
Yes it's that fast.
Unpopular opinion but this was my favorite coaster in Mexico. Great review!
Makes sense if you love Gs!
Yeah I can definitely see why as well
I can’t wait for it to go to Indiana beach. I might be going next summer so i hope it opens
I think it should be ready next year.
Nice to see this coming to Indiana beach
Agreed!
Yes but they are bringing the trims back due to the horrible maintenance done on Quimera.
Sadly I won’t be surprised if it becomes defunct in less than ten years due to that horrible maintenance
Can't wait to ride it in Indiana Beach
I'm glad it was saved.
This coaster has been purchased & will be operating at Indiana Beach. Even though I've lived in Indiana all my life, I've never been there, but this might motivate me to finally go.
I'm excited.
Schwarzkopf is one of my favorite manufacturers. It's sad that they're getting older and staying to have maintenance issues. I don't want to have to say goodbye to them
I think supply chain issues are the biggest problem.
Got a good feeling it'll be at Indiana Beach soon. I've got a source.
Excellent!
It's not "good feeling"
It's a confirmation from the park
It WILL happen
@@dangerdoge4113 Yes I saw the confirmation after the initial post on Facebook.
@@CanobieCoaster Neat
And you were right
Also, one of the big drops that pulls the most gs , its a very similar drop to the old knigtmare at camelot that pulled over 5gs
True, the pullout from the first drop pulled some heavy Gs too.
Good one to get a better picture for
Quimera was only operating for a short portion of one of my La Feria visits. I don't have many photos of it unfortunately.
They just had the lap bars while at flamingoland, i rode it plenty of times as magnum force
Were straps added in the later years? I saw blue straps on the riders in Sean Flaherty's POV and on a few RCDB photos.
The ride didn’t trim in the past. The sound of the brakes was mostly just the blocks setting with each passing train. The first block brake isn’t taken at a speed requiring trimming, and would hardly affect the ride if it did.
The booster lift runs far faster than it did in Germany, as I just learned. It be faster here than it used to be but La Féria wasn’t the culprit. It ran very fast as Magnum Force as well. It came to Mexico with the booster lift already altered. This would significantly increase the speed at the end.
The third brake section could have trimmed but being the end of the ride you’ve already navigated the most forceful sections and it’s of little consequence from a maintenance standpoint to slow it down.
My take on the ride running so fast is that they likely used a wheel compound that wasn’t correct for the ride. It probably had harder wheels and maintained more speed than designed. The booster lift clearly runs far faster than footage of it in Germany but again, it ran this way at Flamingoland too. The constant notion that trims should have tamed the ride (which they never did historically) really doesn’t make sense.
I didn't realize the booster lift was faster since I've never seen a POV of this coaster from its days in Germany, but that definitely would cause a speed increase too.
I agree it ran fast as Magnum Force as well, but in those POVs I could at least here trims tapping. They aren't even there on Quimera.
@@CanobieCoaster My theory is a modification of that. I think La Feria bypassed the resistor that controls how much power goes to the lift. Normally what's supposed to happen is a sensor picks up how fast the train is traveling, sends that information to the rides computer, and then the rides computer does a calculation to figure out exactly how much voltage needs to be let out of the resistor to power the wheels at a certain rate to keep the train within an acceptable speed range. When you bypass the resistor and run direct power to the middle lift those wheels will run full blast which basically converts that booster lift into a launch. It's basically the same situation that happens when your blower motor resistor fails in your car, you can still use the fan but you can only have it off or on at full blast there is no inbetween.
I found someone who made a very accurate recreation of that roller coaster in no limits 2 that had a download file in it, according to the simulation it says that the third loop reaches like a top g force of 6.3g
I believe it!
In its La Feria de Chapultepec incarnation, this is definitely on the short list of coasters I would consider too much for me. (Since this video was made, of course, Indiana Beach bought the coaster and is planning to operate it again this summer. I hope, for the sake of safety, that they'll be following the manufacturer's instructions this time.)
I can't wait to see this ride reopen.
When you join a gang it's important to chose positive g's to hang arround. stay away from the negative g's, they will just bring you down.
Lol
Good god that thing hauls.
Absolutely!
Which Schwarzkopf coaster did you like more, Quimera or Mindbender at Galaxyland?
Quimera
Now that we know Indiana beach will install it, I wonder if they'll include trim breaks and potentially slow down the ride.
I wouldn't be surprised.
This ride never ran trimmed. The main culprit for the faster second half is that booster lift in the middle of the ride. Its supposed to moderate the speed of the train when it exits but La Feria ran into issues with the control system and instead of fixing them they just bypassed them by running direct power to the booster lift and only running one train. By running direct power to the booster lift it caused the lift to run at full speed all the time and instead of moderating the speed of the train it became a tire propelled launch which is why the second half was so insane. In fact if you watch videos of the ride as Magnum Force you can see the train actually slows down on the lift while in the Quimera videos you see the train launched over that hill. It's basically what happens when your cars blower motor resistor fails, you can still use the fan but you can only run it at the max speed
I had that happen to my car's fan and had to fix it.
@@CanobieCoaster Yea its basically that but on a much bigger scale. This is the reason Indiana Beach is taking so long to get the ride finished with it all constructed, they have to get a whole new control system for the ride because the old one is just beyond saving
It looks really good with the white and red paint job. They should have gone back to that instead of the blue.
I just want to see it reopen.
Having ridden them both on the german fair circuit I absolutely prefer this to Olympia Looping!
Me too! Olympia Looping doesn't have the same punch outside of the loops.
This coaster is going up in 2021 in Indiana Beach. Will you ride it again?
Absolutely!
God damn!
Wild ride, sad accident.
It’s definitely not as intense at its current home (Rideforces clocked it at 4.8gs during the double loops (similar to modern Riddler Mindbender) but those lateral slams on the first two drops are very powerful especially in the back. The front has a few more slams into the climbs into the rises. You must staple yourself with the OSRs to prevent headbanging.
Still sounds like an amazing ride at least.
I won’t ever get to ride it, but I think it would be as intense as i305.
Both are incredibly intense.
fast forward to 11/18/2020 Quimere is no longer S.B.N.O. and has since been removed for La Feria de Chapultepec and its where is currently unknown, don't be surprised is Cascabel 2.0, La feria's Schwarzkopf shuttle loop gets removed, and definitely Montaña Rusa the massive wooden coaster gets demolished since that was a record-breaker at the time and you know how hard it is to relocated a massive wooden coaster
I haven't been following La Feria too closely, but wasn't the plan to keep the wood coaster and redo everything else?
As for Quimera, it looks like they dismantled it carefully so hopefully it gets saved by a park and refurbished to run safely.
@@CanobieCoaster And what, Indiana Beach brought it, I'm hyped to ride it next year.
@@MrFlightdeckfan I know! I made a separate video on the almost confirmed relocation.
#IndianaBeachsavedQuimera
This coaster is now at Indiana beach
Yes!
Is La Feria as run down as it looks in the footage
Sadly it was.
I hope mindbender get purchased by Indiana beach Holdings so they can operate both American Dreir Looping, Mindbender and Casabeal2.0
That would be cool.
QUIMERA QUIMERA QUIMERA
I'm excited it's most likely being saved!
I think one of the reasons the ride derailed was because of the intense laterals causing a lot of wear on the train wheels which were not designed to operate with such high laterals all the time
Entirely possible.
I remember the Wiener Looping at Circus World in Florida. The painful Laterals.
I hope to one day ride that model.
@@CanobieCoaster Get on down to Mexico and ride it before it disappears. I've only heard great things about it. And, knowing how wonderful Schwartkopf coasters are, I'm sure it's incredible. I plan to try to try to make it down this year. Considering driving or taking a bus & getting some enthusiasts interested (I live in Texas). Always wanted to ride it.
That ride is now in Mexico.
Now known as Bullet.
Sucks that this is sbno, I hope it reopens. I have only been on a single Schwarzkopf which is soopersooperlooper and I didn’t grey out, but I’ve heard of a few people who have, including my sister. I’ve also been on other super intense coasters like a Batman clone, skyrush, el toro, etc. But I've never greyed out. Wonder if this would make me grey out...
Sooperdooperlooper is one of the weaker Schwarzkopf coasters.
Canobie Coaster yeah I know, but I’ve heard of some people who brewed out a tiny bit. Still, I’ve been on thighcrush and toro and I’ve now we greyed out. I guess I just have a strong tolerance for high gs 🤷♂️
I mean GREYED OUT not brewed out stupid autocorrect
That third loop is more intense than the pretzel loops??
In terms of max Gs, yes.
Yo vivo cerca de esa feria donde lamentablemente fallecieron 2 personas estuvo muy feo ya están desmantelando quimera 😢
La atracción se trasladará a un parque de atracciones en los Estados Unidos.
To the maker of this video. Come to Indiana Beach in 2021 and you can ride her again.
I believe I'll make it back next year!
You guys could go to west Edmonton mall and ride the clone
I did ride that one and it was excellent, although the finale wasn't quite as wild.
It’s not a clone in Edmonton. Not at all.
@@Porcf81 very similar
@@Porcf81 Hi Greg! Ricky from DWRCA! Mindbender is a mirror-image, taller, and I believe but am not positive, has slightly tighter turns/drops? Can anyone confirm the turns/drops info?
He said he did so many times
cool rice.
Yes
Crystal Beach's Cyclone safety coaster gave riders an abusive experience to say the least . "Safety" referring to the trains staying on the tracks - but that's all !
The medic in the station always made me laugh watching those old amusement park specials on Discovery Channel.
@@CanobieCoaster Ticket price included medical coverage ! LOL
The coaster that replaced the Cyclone is one of the most beautiful coasters I have ever seen. a
As a teen my family vacationed in Ontario in the sixties . The Comet stretched out along the retaining wall of Lake Erie . The older gentleman that operated the coaster told me he could control the speed of the trains by raising or lowering the teeth located at the curves . It offered an impressive profile from the midway and the Lake Erie shore . I believe that most of the course was outlined in white lights.
@@rutheliz75 Comet was an incredible, wonderful coaster, one of my favorite wood coaster in the mid 80s...and still! You do know it was saved, disassembled, and re-built at Great Escape Fun Park in Lake George, NY, don't you? Many who rode both say it runs a bit better than at Crystal Beach, but it also has had a few, minor alterations over the years. Everyone who rides Comet in NY says it's so much fun. Crystal Beach was like a magical, beautiful step back into time, and Giant Coaster was a really fun coaster, too! Loved the Magic Carpet ride also. The only thing Comet lacks now is that spectacular view of Lake Ontario!
Yeah this is kinda like the 21st century version of that
I'm sad I never rode this
It should reopen this year at Indiana Beach, but it may run a bit slower.
Loops shouldn’t sway this much as it did
La Feria didn't take the best care of it.
I am Mexican and good luck with chimera
Thanks!
This is the one credit my girlfriend has and I don’t
She's definitely lucky!
I wouldnt call it the most intense coaster around. Ive ridden more extreme models. The one in Edmonton mall was a bit more wild.
The one in Edmonton is very wild as well, but Quimera really did me in with the crazy second half and Mexico City's altitude.
I've heard a few people say that, that Mindbender is more intense as it's slightly taller & tighter, I believe. Haven't ridden Mindbender yet, but rode Thriller/Tx Tornado at Astroworld. Thriller was great but the accordion restraints were terrible. Thriller wasn't nearly as great as Drier Looping/Quimera, though.
Hola.
Hi
i should have said ride LoL
Ah ok.
I went to the ACE con in 1985 at Blackpool & their two week European coaster tour which included Drier Looping/Quimera. This is the most intense steel coaster I've ever ridden. Our ACE tour guides arranged an hour of exclusive ride time! Nearly every enthusiast would take one or two rides and quit! Not me! I got around 25 rides. Our guides also kept riding as they felt bad that the fair gave us ERT but few would ride! I agree with everything Canobie Coaster says in this excellent video. It's my all-time favorite steel coaster. The tall, steeply twisting airtime & lateral drops were unreal. The bottoms of those drops, and the loops, were almost unbearable. But a FUN unbearable! Canobie Coaster, did you enjoy the ride? One of the best things about it in Germany was having only a single lap bar! It's almost hard to believe it'll be operating at Indiana Beach! I will be there when it opens. Enthusiasts dismiss my praise when I talk about this coaster being the ultimate in steel! I hope it runs well in Indiana & that Indiana Beach comes up with a comfortable restraint or switches back to the single lap bars. This is the ultimate in steel roller coasters! Get on down to Indiana Beach when this coaster takes us by storm!
I wish I could've experienced this with just lap bars. That's encouraging it was about as intense in Europe before it came to North America.
japan has closed rides for much less
Oh agreed!
I want to see this coaster run again but know its unrealistic.
Yeah I imagine it needs quite a bit of work plus the stigma.
Now Indiana Beach is getting it next year
i said rice lol
Oh
how to make a ride "good"
make it go way too fast lmao
If only proper maintenance was done.