Building an Imbalanced System
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Designing and building an Imbalanced System Magnetic Motor. This type of motor was made popular by Howard Johnson’s Famous Magnetic Motor, as well as Mummer Yildiz Magnetic Motor designs, and Mike Brady’s Perendev Motor. In this video, I will explore some of the myths about these systems, share some insights, and hopefully point people in the right direction toward building a working imbalanced system based on this type of design.
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Great video. One of the best I have seen on the topic so far. Great research too. Please keep going.
I remember as a little child how i was dreaming about being able to grap products out of a tv once i did saw them on screen, with his 3D printer, it’s somewhat pretty much possible, everything you see on screen can be 3D printed in color and at different materials, and while it takes a while to print them that 3D printer surelly feels like magic, i like how he 3D prints stuff while fast fowarding his video recording of it , it’s awesome.
Well.... Yes please keep us posted! I freaking love this stuff , and this motor for sure is one of my top favorites thanks for all the tedious work that goes into a very detailed difficult build like this. Your effort is appreciated. And just thanks man!
Thank you. I appreciate it. This project was actually well underway before my previous video. I did the other project at the same time so that you guys didn't have to wait too long for a new video.
I have been 3D printing a few (10 or so) different designs, but hey, thats some serious 3D printing you've done here, respect for the work, effort and research. Big thumbs up and subscription.
Yeah, definitely! I'll follow up with you through this process. I want to commend you for just how thorough you are being in your approach to a final design. I always figure any arrangements that don't work teach us something important. I'm currently building a HoJo design with the stepped, banana shaped magnets. All I need to do is find the magic distance of rotor to stator and size of the steps. But, so far so good. Good luck to you!
He'll yeah very very interested. Please keep posting. I am addicted.
I've been interested in the Perendev generator for a long time and your results are something that I can agree with so far. Keep working on it, do not stop. You are on the right track.
Not only that but those magnet motor builders will definitely scare the crap out of the iliminati who also controls the oil indistry
Haha am just kidfing, but still,,,
the patent says different number of magnets in stater and rotor no two magnets align at any time. your work is impeccable.
I want to thank you for your quest into magnetic knowledge. I look forward to your videos with great explanations too. Keep up your work into the unknown as this will be the only way for normal people to have the understanding and truth into this magnificent subject. Keep the faith as that is what will set you free. I know there are a lot of other people working on this subject matter. Peace and out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I look forward to seeing a lot more of your experimentation and thinking on this! Great work
Thank you!
keep posting it is something I've always been fascinated with since I was a child
Thanks for the great video on the subject of magnetic shielding, I have been thinking along the same lines for a while myself, but building a cam shaft type arrangement, where the cam tips the magnet into place when the stater rotates past.
I recently found your work, keep doing this, we need it, i am working on some types of designs too
Thank you. Not currently, but I will be.
Thank You. Nice vid. hey, Mr. Brady's pat showed item 14 as having been faced off at an angle to the normal of both mag and the axis of the machine probably around 20degs but not specified in the pat. To do that, successfully, one would need to index ea. mag. as regards to polarity along two vectors. Operation left to a surface grinder. Thanks again.
Great job at get me interested again in the Perendev motor. Keep it up and thank you.
Thank you for watching.
I want to see more of this, and i have some ideas for combining this with your other videos
Great ideas, keep on going!! I'll keep watching.
Thanks!
top marks for effort. Thanks for sharing in detail.
Hi there! I've been looking for information like this for a long time already, but there is so much trash - so many fakes - around. It's hard to find something sound.
So thank you very much for your videos! It's by far the best video series i have ever watched on youtube about these kind of things!
Keep the good work up! p.s. i'm envious about your equipment :) very nice job with the 3D printing!
Thanks for the kind words.
Thanks - Keep us posted, I will be thrilled to go through the journey with you. Post as many videos as you can.
Thank you. Much appreciated.
I feel that magnetic shielding does not work as you demonstrated with the mumetal. But what mumetal does is concentrate the field better than iron.
Motionmagnetics you did a great job with this. Sad to see nothing recent unless I missed where it was posted.
Norman
@Motionmagnetics
Obviously you have some degree of mechanical engineering. Whether it works or not, your model is spectacular! Thanks for sharing.
P.S. I have a completely different design that I have been able to keep rotating for approximately 4-5 minutes.
@@Motionmagnetics Thank you for sharing us such great videos.
I am impressed with your knowledge and experiences in the field of magnetism. I am currently working on the Hyperloop project which emphasizes greatly on the application of magnetic motion. Linear induction motor is a solution for transonic speed travel. However, the ideal goal of Hyperloop is not yet achieved; we would need to optimize the system's efficiency. If you have some time, do you mind spending time guiding and discussing with me? Your knowledge will be very helpful to us. Just reply to this comment or message me through CZcams if you are willing to. Thank you very much.
@@huuhieuta7121 Thank you! That's not really my areas of expertise, but I wish you well in your endeavors. Do great things!
Keep working on it, don't give up and don't listen to the negative people. Most of them have not made more than a sandwich or a mixed drink.
Love your work and passion toward magnet motors.
Thank you. Much appreciated! You're right, I just ignore negativity.
Please keep posting! I see some people watch the video and did not give you thumbs up. Don't forget people to give positive feed back.
Will do. Thanks.
Original videos of the Perendev motor were well done and created much interest. They were followed by questionable reviews that seemed to have a predetermined agenda to dismiss the concept (ie: Sterling Allen, etc). Allen was later involved in criminal matters, and could have been compromised (as many were) by TPTB in Big Oil and Energy. It is good to see that barriers are lifting, and your research is going forward on this device since it held considerable free energy hopes for many original viewers. All the best to your endeavors.
Excellent content, please keep up the good work, looking forward to the next video. Thank you for sharing!!
Thank you!
I want to know more about how to design shielding for my own projects. Can you make a more detailed video on the angles, approximate strength or size of magnets, and the distances required for an imbalanced magnet motor?
Yes of course interested. Please keep posting your findings. These videos are enlightening to say the least. Thank You.
You rock man, love your work
Thanks for your video. Nice job!!!
Love all your videos. Thanks.
Thanks. And thanks for watching them.
just got my first order of magnets from the postoffice - your work is great im looking forward to your next video.
Thank you. I hope you'll post what you're working on as well.
I like the imbalance system because in order for any "work" to be done, something to be moved there has to be an imbalance. I've been working on John Searles design of creating a wavelength between the stator and rotor with the imbalance built in. Keep up the work. Aloha
Great information!
Thank you. Please continue to post the results.
I've been noticing that one of the magnets on the stater needs to be in a different configuration to achieve inertia through the last magnetic field and I'm interested in what a gyroscope on the shaft but i noticed in Perendevs patent that he mention a wide range of angles but says it works best between 30 and 35 degrees so in my design I was going with 33 degree offset on both rotor and stater and switch one magnet to south on the stater on an all north build just my guess though
Keep up the good work and more power to you!
Love your work!
wooow, keep it up man!!! i want a 3D printer to try this myself now!
I admire your work, pls do more, good job!
GREAT JOB on what you did in this video.....
Please post an update on your progress incorporating magnetic shielding. I’m very grateful for the effort you put into sharing your knowledge with the world on your tremendous site here. Please continue to do so after you have created a continuously running magnet motor.
Amazing thanks so much for your insight, keep going
Much appreciated.
Ótimo. Aguardando o próximo vídeo. Parabéns.
Obrigado. Estou feliz que você goste deles.
hi , great video , have you made all these parts with the 3d printer you listed below because it seem very small like 300mm x 400mm
Great job!
Somewhere i read cooper tubes were used for sheelding in perendev after bismut, it is not used for sheelding actualy its for redirection or concentration of the magnetic fealds. Not expensive to try, never know. Is it possble to get the files for the 3d printig parts?
Thank you. There are so many stories about what Mike Brady might have used. He also said he initially built his motors out of aluminum, but that was causing problems because of the eddy currents from magnets interacting with the aluminum. So copper tubes would do the same thing. I try not to get aluminum parts to close to the magnets on my magnetic motor builds, as I've seen them visably slow down from eddy currents.
I think the secret really is in the diamagnetic materials, you can find them inside computer hard disks, or in the companies that make the neodymium magnets.
As shown in the Perendev patent, encapsulating the neodymium with the diamagnetic material creates a one-way thrust flow.
I hope you're lucky and make it work.
greetings.
smartest videos i've seen so far. I am very happy to see that you are building the motor with the shielding i had in mind since a long time but couldn't test myself cause i don't have the materials, is this the last video you uploaded?
Thank you. Yes, it is. I've been working on some other projects lately.
Thismay be of interest to you. I seem to have stumbled on something. Basically i placed 2 magnets on a fly wheel wthi iron backing them so the back field was fully contained in the iron. I shrouded the path of the magnets with 2 quarter circles one all north one all south. The magnets on the fly wheel and the 2 quarter circles shrouding their path are all seperated by about my little fingers width. The quarter circle frame was made of Styrofoam. Now the interesting part to this is that when trying to spin the magnets past the quarter circle end points the magnets want to go towards the middle of the quarter circle arches. But the side that has the metal shielding much more so then the other end of the arches. So i would cock it at the weaker side and let it go towards the stronger cocking side start point will be calles point "A". As stated it pushes tge magnets to the center and keeps travelling to harder cocking end point called point "B" at which point it flies back towards point "A" and passes it? Thats actually the equivilent of bouncibg a tenis ball and the ball bouncing back past its origin? Take note the metal backing on the 2 magnets used are shielded by a U core made from amourphous metal ribbon core. Also this stopped happening when i changed the backing of the arches from styrofoam to solid wood? Strange. In any case it bounced back past its original coging point? And it has something to do with the flex in the styrofoam. Msg me if you want photos
Great work. You’ve given me an idea.
Thank you! I hope you produce something great from your idea!
Good job. I was wondering on the potential use of 3D printing for these projects.
As far as I have seen so far I believe it has good potential.
Thank you! It has great potential! Eventually I'd like to pick up a machine that custom tools metal parts as well.
Bravo I was on a mission building such magnetic systems, presently turned my passion to Obtaining Energy from the Ambient Medium (Either field) constructing MAGNETIC RESONANCE GENERATORs
I keep coming to this channel everyday to check update on motor
I'm sorry to keep you waiting. I've been working on other projects lately, but if I get back to this design, I'll definitely post a video for you.
@@Motionmagnetics please keep on doing good work as breakthrough in this technology could bring positive change in world and revolution in renewable energy field. This potential in this technology is ignored by mainstream scientists.
very nice work indeed thankyou
great work man, hope u succeed
thanks a lot, you are my inspiration. peace.
Thank you. Much appreciated.
I'm excited for the next video!
I too believe that shielding and placement is the only path.... I DO SOOOO love your videos. they are realistic and not full of false hopes or hoax-ish statements. Glad to see any progress on this. I too have a 3d printer as well and furthering my own magnet experiments are on my project lists --- if I can ever get to them!!! (living vicariously through you!). Keep the video's coming!!! (if you can).
I've seen videos where magnetism makes a ball or rolling magnetic object climb a parabolic ramp - I'm hoping that sudden-shielding on the way up (near the top) could break the cog and of course feed the object back down with gravity. .... also thought about using the magnetic rail gun videos---using a wheel (as a track) instead of a linear path to feed a projectile up (overcoming gravity), then of course the unbalancing fueling it to come back to feed the gun again (again gravity)... just thoughts... probably thought of thousands of times.
Thanks for that. I appreciate it. I'll keep moving forward, as I always do.
Hi great to see your work very impressive would you be able to tell me about your magnetic shielding material please and where to find it please thanks again
Best to use Mu-metal. That was some specialized metal piping I had cut for this project.
Aww man, just when you get started. It's like cutting off a movie in the middle of playing it.
Magnet poles should always be pushing, never attract.. attraction only moves them to the attraction point. Perpetual motion exists in space.. on earth to avoid friction a horizontal wheel needs to be levitated with magnets(weaker thin magnets on the wheel's surface facing down like car signs), and powerful ones under the wheel pushing up) and an axial to keep it in place. If the wheel is vertical, too much weight (the whole thing) is placed at one spot but a horizontal wheel can have more surface area for a wider magnet(s) below it to help influence pushing/levitation.
Congratulations good job. So wath is the shield you have apart of bismuth and pirolitic grafite? I utilice mumetal but is not so powerfol. You know...thank you. se you.
Great videos, very realistic and motivating. Which model of 3D printer you using?
It's listed in the original comments by author
Great work, please keep posting results. Cheers
Thanks. I will.
There's one orientation I've only seen discussed once, involving the sides of the magnet. Between north and south there's a zone where the magnets are forced to slide along until they land on the north or south of the stack. My thought is that a circle of magnets north to south all around for the stator and a magnet oriented oppositely on the rotor would seek to find that orientation until it could flip and land aligned with the rest of those in the stator. No cogging.
E ai funcionou? Bom eu sei que mesmo se alinharmos os campos magnéticos nanometricamente, o rotor magnético não vai entrar em rotação! Para haver rotação tem que ter um desequilíbrio magnético na formação dos ímãs! :)
Sim. Desequilíbrio é a chave.
I'm having trouble printing screw holes on a 3d printer what did you do to get it so perfect. Also you can use brass screws, so they won't attract the magnets.
Just stumbled on this video. 3D printers are great. Try using joinery techniques or even Jap glue-less joinery to join large printed pieces together. I have found it to work flawlessly. This also helps to change layer orientation for directional strength in printed parts. As for magnetic shielding I have found that Iron with an air-gap or even a plastic separator is very effective, the larger the gap the better or for strong shielding use several layers. This will shield the range of the PM field can interact with other fields in the iron direction. The interaction the PM has with the iron is much weaker and only has a strong effect in close proximity. Also the orientation of the iron to the approaching or retreating PM makes a huge difference. With a ramp iron bar and the top of the ramp closest to the PM, the PM will have a strong break in the up hill direction and weaker in the downhill direction. Have fun!
Hi anyway you can share your sheilding technique, I'm starting to get different materials to see what works best but what do you mean by iron on ramp is that a slightly higher side? Thanks
@@estorilblu It's not an iron on ramp but a iron ramp. That is a magnetic conductive material such as iron in a magnetic ramp configuration (ie far to close distance from the magnet). The best magnetic shielding is to conduct the field to join North South with a low magnetic resistance (ie high permeability) material that also has a high enough flux density to handle the strength of your magnet. The best and most expensive material is MetGlas
Maaan, this looks awesome!
Thanks!
Awsome thank you.
I agree with Roel Van de Paar, please keep going.
try to build shield for magnet , build shield by coils :) then power the coils with electric current then the motor will run ? i think the output power will be more than input or same , i hope so ? what do you think ?
It's great to see so many different variations, I have also thought of inserting the magnets on a angle, then grinding the head of the magnet flush. Wondering if this would give a directional force for rotation. Thanks for sharing.
It reminds me of what Howard Johnson did with his arced magnets. He used them in almost every one of his designs. I might give it a try at some point. I have a saw that will cut them, which I featured in one of my videos, but it's not the easiest process.
@@Motionmagnetics yes it would be difficult matching the angle with the radius of the curve. Perhaps cutting off the main angle with your saw then finishing the radius with a sander or a grinder.
Possibly? You would have to be careful with the dust, as it would basically be hundreds of tiny little magnets.
@@Motionmagnetics your right it always works easier in your head. I'm sure you would need to take them out an clean them.
Exactly. I believe I still have a bag of magnetic dust I kept from my last magnet cutting project.
Wow, this video is fantastic. How long did it take to design and print out the parts? Keep up the great work.
Thanks. Several weeks.
will you provide the software program for printing the parts.
I'm interested in the magnetic motor. I'm trying to build one myself and am trying to figure it out. But I still have a question. Out of wich material is the magnet shield at 8:38? It seems to work but you didn't mention what kind of meterial it was.
I have a magnet question for you. Imagine you've got a spherical magnet, one side will be north, the other south. Cut the magnet in half, and now you've got 2 magnets with 2 poles. Simple. Carve out a portion of each half's of the magnets in a semi sphere and put them back together, gives you your original sphere with a hollow center. Here's the question. If you put two flat magnets inside that perfectly match the hollow dimensions inside that hole with the S-S or N-N ends facing each other, they'll try to repeal from one another, yet if there already trapped inside a hollowed out magnet, would it cause the inner flat magnets to rotate inside the larger sphere-thus giving you a sphere magnet with a rotating magnetic field similar to a planets magnetic field? Or, would it simply do nothing, leaving you with a normal 2 pole sphere magnet? I've asked this question of a few people and have never gotten an answer-and since I'm not a machinist, I can't experiment myself.
Many years ago I invented this concept, went to a shop to have someone help me construct it... and my trailer and all of my drawings were stolen... shortly afterwards I started to see my ideas show up on CZcams and Prendev was one of those I figured was party to the original theft. Anyway... I never intended my ideas to be online. And I never intended that this would work. I just drew up one idea... and it was stolen. My other designs I still have. And your right it doesn't work. And never could work.
But there are so many people online who want free energy so bad they just keep regurgitating my ideas over and over, changing it a little bit. Makes me so angry that people copy from each other and take credit for ideas as they are their own. Anyway... this idea will never work. Not with stock magnets that is. I am working with other ideas... and will see if my new ideas will work. I no longer use stock magnets. That is the problem with people, they do not understand magnetic fields. Have fun working with this and wasting your time. If I wanted any of my ideas online, I would have published them myself. Thus all of my new concepts will be tightly held secret. And will likely never be made public based on my experiences with these idea's and how people steal other peoples work and take all the credit. Anyway, you are clearly wasting your time with this... as are everyone else. Good luck.
Hola me gustaría saber como lo realizaste o la vendes..
of course we are interested. ..lol.😅. . post as many as you like and can.. I really guess shielding is the key...but it will be hard to get real power out of the system as when putting magnets in such a circular fashion all fields will influence each other and not much difference force will occur anymore.. Maybe better combine it some gravity enhanced trick to switch back and forth some magnets via springs..so basically combine magnets , gravity and spring storage together with levers that are mechanically switched at some position and the potential energy stored in springs...A pure Perendev system probably will never work but try to prove us wrong..many thanks. Regards, Stefan.
Thank you. Yes, you definitely need shielding for this type of rotary device. Thanks for the suggestions.
Hi MoMag. What kind of 2 D Animation program do you use to make your great 2D Animations synced with the sound effects ? Is that a MAC program or do you work on the PC ? Is this done via something like Aftereffects or an easier program to learn ? Many thanks and hopefully you get this motor somehow to run. Regards, Stefan.
Good job motionmagnetics, that's just fabulous. I was thinking for myself that if you succeed in your quest you might not post any more videos for your own security, right brother? All my sympathy to you. Hope someday there will be so much information they cannot stop us any longer.
I think you need to make one section of your stator a V-gate configuration to over come the 1" barrier or magnetic locking what ever you prefer to call it the perendev design works great right up to that last inch if it's pulled into a V-gate and pushed out the other side it should eliminate the cogging just wish I had the money and resources to try it for myself i believe that id the trick to Yildiz's design
thanks and keep it coming
I like the Calloway motor. The thing I don't understand is the spacing between magnets on the rotor is 1/2" and all magnets are 1". With that said the bottom stater magnet is shown between 2 rotor magnets. (The magnet is shown 1" wide and sitting in a 1/2" space) How does that make any sense?
I was wishing you had tried the V gate magnet track with a pattern, not just the
Hello friends of magnetic motors!
A special greeting to the creator of this magnet motor.
He made an effort and everything is ok! Just a problem,
that we don't have an engine. All is well with the magnets and corners and
mumetals, but I see that we do not have an imbalance.
Asymmetry of the rotor and stator axially !
And there is no need for many rows of magnets in the stator, in two halves, so that it does not close!
Good luck with your endeavors and we can share…
magnets in one stator shell to repel the rotor and in the opposite stator shell to pull the rotor.
Thank you and yes
Thanks. I will.
Hi, awesome job man!
I just had an ideia, don’t know if it’s right according to the laws of physics or if it'll work, but, what if you try to make an rotation of the stator and combine it someway to the rotation of the rotor?
Thanks. It would add to the complexity of the design. You'd be better to have the stator seated in place.
Let me know what you think about this idea.
After watching numerous of your videos suddenly I just thought of something. I don't know if this type of mechanism has ever been tested or thought of:
The idea is based on the concept of a moustrap if you will.
So you combine magnetism with mousetrap and throw in some sort of spring mechanism.
And the theory looks like this:
One magnet is pulled (with its motion confined within respectably smooth frictionless track) by the other magnet without being repulsed as your first rule. So you need one magnet as pulling force to get the ball rolling.
As the magnet rushes towards the other stationary magnet, it trips a moustrap. This causes the stationary magnet to move out of the way and at the same time it drops another magnet with replusive force right behind it which further perpells it forward.
While the magnet is racing forward it trips another moustrap which drops another repelling magnet behind it and so on.
And perhaps the magnets can be under spring tension that is held back by the trigger, pulling the attractive magnet out of the way while the other is be pushed from behind and so on.
I can just imagine how much acceleration ten of them N52 neomydium magnets can produce.
But wait:
why waste all the motion of the magnet. You can use that to make electricity as it passes the coils along the way, this in return should be so implemented that it will reset and put all them repulsive magnets back in position as mousetrap.
I am just throwing this out there because I don't know if this type of idea has ever crossed anyone's mind.
[ So really the question is, would there be enough kenetic energy with the magnet to keep resetting the mouse trap from just the original energy that was put in the system in the first place, setting up the mouse trap and the one magnet for attraction. If the mousetrap can not be reset, then again this idea would be another dead horse. However it should be make for good linear acceleration I would think]
What do you think?
what program did you use to draw the picture for the printer ?
I used Tinkercad, though I believe I've outgrown its capabilities. It's freeware, so it has its limitations. It worked great for most of the parts but wasn't as consistent as I'd have liked on the rotor and stators. That's why you see the second style of rotor at the end of the video. I'm probably going to switch to something a bit more comprehensive to keep things more precise. You've added quite a few videos since I last looked at your channel. Good job!
its really nice plz can you tell me how you will control its speed
No updates from a year ago? Or did your shop get raided?
No, I've just been busy with other projects. lol
Just found this, cool project, very interested to see where you're at now. Please update as you go! Thanks.
Thanks.
What kind of shielding did you use?
What I wouldn't give for a 3D printer like you've got, it's Flippin awesome.
Thanks! I love mine! I really couldn't justify not having it, considering the type of research I do.
uh... $449 on ebay. : )
Nice work !
Thanks!
For the shielding... What are your thoughts on Mumetal and other products with very high permeability?
It depends on the project. Howard Johnson used Mumetal in one of his rotary designs but used magnetic field angling techniques in some of his others. Most of what I know about magnetic motors, that I trust, is based on his work.
Please post video on your progress of motor
Good work. Very interested in how it's coming along. I know for a fact it has everything to do with shielding. I for one believe Brady had it. Where it's at right now... Who knows. We need to form a group of people that believe this is possible, if you have any doubt, you're out of the group.
It would make sense to shield the stator magnet as well to get past sticking spot. Have you tried this?
Yes, to some extent.
Dear friend! Very interested in your video. What kind of pyrolytic graphite did you use?
I don't remember, sorry. That's been awhile ago.
I think What you testing its known things. its good job and keep forward
where do you get your magnets from??
Yes! Please keep posting your results! I would be willing to fund this if you can get the configuration right. I have been looking at the Searle Generator which is, IMO, the way to go. Can you do a video on the Searle generator? If not I understand. The effects created are also an area of interest for us & we will fund production of these units if someone will step up.
Thanks. I've been on a bit of a break from working on this design, and have been involved in other projects. If I get it working though, I'll post a video.