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Why I choose to run old equipment in my Firewood bussiness
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- čas přidán 4. 11. 2019
- Talking about why most of my equipment is old, and a common trap alot of firewood sellers fall into.
My 60k truck example is a bit exaggerated, but shows how I think of my trucks. What is your guys take on new vs old equipment?
The old stakebody truck was on the road for 29 years, not 19. 1985 f350 449k miles, 300 with a 4 speed. Absolute beast of a truck
I sprayed fluid film for the several years and although it's a great lubricant and rust preventative, it just didn't seem to hold up very well as a vehicle undercoat over a hard PA winter. I went back to my old favorite mix of 2 quarts of cheap chainsaw bar oil and 1 qt of Black Rustoleum paint. This combo shoots pretty well out of a spray wand on a cheap rustproofing gun and would probably shoot right out of the fluid film sprayer as well? A splash of ATF to thin - only if necessary - and this mix worked good enough to keep a 1991 Ford Ranger frame like new for over 13 years. Run a bit of paint thinner through the gun when finished and your done. Depending on the time of year and the thickness of the application - it will drip for several days - but the bar oil keeps the paint from hardening so wipe up isn't so bad. Just my 2 cents. Great video - thank you.
I'll have to give that a try, appreciate you sharing that!
In wisconsin we just use waste oil!
You’re right the older trucks were built better. You can thank gas mileage regulations for the companies having to use thinner metal. Screw editing.
Most people who do firewood also have multiple revenue sources like landscaping, trucking, excavating etc etc so they can offset the cost of having new equipment because they make a lot more money. Around here most firewood customers only use it for five months so that leaves a long period of time for a firewood only setup to go without making money! You are young, have a degree and a good full time job so there is no reason to go into debt for what essentially is a hobby! If you are going to go in debt for anything it should be a house or land because you know it's going to go up in value! I worked for a guy a long time ago who always used old equipment and I asked him why and he said I have never worked for anyone who offered to pay me more because I had a new piece of equipment! Cars and trucks rust from the inside out, whatever rust you see on the outside is 10x worse on the inside of the panel and the new vehicles not only have shitty steel in them but also a lot of sound deadening which gets moist from condensation and stays wet forever. Another issue is the damn salt brine, it's so freakin strong it is rotting out bridges at an alarming rate and bridge steel is designed to last a long time!
William Zoom totally agree, originally when we first started, our primary business was clearing for building lots, and we would just sell the wood off of that. I plan to save up some money to buy some rental property, much better return on investment. I pretty much have everything I want (3 super splitters, timberwolf, 2 dump trailers ect), don't really see how more equipment would speed production. doesn't even make sense to pay for the man power to man the excess equipment I have, so a lot just sits around.
I’ve been involved with logging and sawmilling either as a hobby or a living for several decades. The only way firewood could be the main event is if you had the logs free (no cutting/limbing/skidding) and a guaranteed market for x number of cords for consistent money every year. And you have to budget because 90% of the sales are late summer to midwinter.
It’s a good gig for young guys to make some extra cash. I’ve watched those who go whole hog and buy a processor and nice trucks and in a few years they are selling it all.
It's not about what you're equipment looks like it's about how you take care of it keep up the good work
Great stuff .... Goes to show the old adage "They don't build them like they useta!" 👍
For small business you have to look at vehicles for what they are a work Tool
Hello just subscribed, we run a 1988 Ford F-250, Firewood is hard on a truck. Take Care, and Stay Safe 👍🏼🪵🇺🇸
Rust will win everytime good video brother
Just mix diesel fuel w chain oil spray frame spring shackels cab mounts my 92 chevy frame looks like new 288000 miles = money maker
That frame isnt going anywhere from that little bit of rust.
if a person is gonna use something it's gonna get banged up so no need in trying to keep a good looking work truck.
MissouriOldTimer
EXACTLY
I've been selling wood for over 12 years. I've never dented my truck running into anything while working with firewood. I drive a 3500 crew cab dually. The key is to put a steel flatbed on.
Same boat as you...99 Dakota with only 109k on it but the frame is rusted. I need it for plowing my property and hauling firewood and dirt and supplies, that’s it. I replaced the front end, tires, brakes and brake lines and new spring shackles and it’s doing it’s job. I don’t care about it cosmetically and it’s liberating. Everything in it works except missing parking brake lever on pass rear side...who cares haha.
if it works safely, it's good in my book haha
I shared this very informative video on my channel. I’ve had guys come pick up in really nice trucks and they’re scared to back up to the wood if it might brush across some bushes as it might get scratched, I tell them they need a Prius
appreciate it joe!
30 or 40 years ago people bought trucks because they needed a truck. You took good care of it, but it was a work vehicle. It made money for you, it was a tool. Now it’s a shiny expensive toy to ride around in. A guy I worked with 3 years ago bought a $60k Dodge powerwagon. It’s beautiful. His payments are 7 years and more than his mortgage. When it’s paid off he will have spent $90k and it will be worth maybe $30k. And he drives it to work like a car. He has an 88 Chevy 1 ton that he drives when he needs to haul or tow anything. Baffles me, but he loves that dodge, so I guess to him it’s worth it.
Bruce A sounds like a pole smoker 😮💨 🌯
G'Day Young'un!
I'm sorry I don't get to your channel much ..... I'm not well in the "Old Folks Home" .....
And I no longer spend the time on the computer that I used to ...... 😢
However I DO get GREAT pleasure in pronouncing "1" from time to time ..... 😉
I DO hope your business is going well .... ALONG with your studies ..... !!!
That piece of paper is worth far more to you later in life than a physically worn out body .......😉
Best wishes to you n yours .....
I will now watch your vid .....
And enjoy it as always ..... 👍👍
Jim 😊👍👍🙏🧡
Cutting costs is part of business. The only new things I have are saws. Everything else is used.
I can think of another reason to use an old truck to deliver firewood....if you show up in a new one, people might get the notion that you are getting rich off firewood sales at their expense.....
Fluid film is some amazing stuff. I've been coating my 06 2500 since I got it. And it's just now losing chips of its original frame coating.
I live in New England and it's a plow truck. I wouldn't drive any vehicle I care about in the winter without fluid film. I use 3-4 cans on a regular cab 8 foot bed, then drive down some dirt roads. 👍
goog to hear, how crazy do you clean your frame before you hit it with fluid film?
@@splittinnstuff6571
I dont go too nuts. A day after driving in the rain will do.
@@splittinnstuff6571
Make sure you hit your door jams and there are rain weep holes at the bottom of the doors, you can load those up too.
I do my rockers, floor pans, bottom foot of doors,cab corners, inside and outside of the frame and cross members. I don't see any reason why you couldn't do the whole truck other than the windows. Haha
It's legit stuff though.
Good vids btw.
Your right you don't want a new truck to haul firewood but you can't drive a piece of shit on the road like Joe broken frame door don't close tail gate falling off and overload the hell out of it your truck is way better than Joe's junk stay safe.
like you say...truck has to just run. i made a shit ton of money doing wood and misc hauling in a 99 ford ranger
All these keyboard warriors/experts keep telling me that I have to buy $500,000.00 in brand new equipment to sustain my annual $60k sales & or $15K annual profits
that's exactly what I'm saying hahaha
I've concluded that half these idiots that comment on CZcams have not spent one hour doing what they're commenting on. Seen a video today where guy had load of wood dumped and everybody measured thru the video how many cord it was lmao
But in order to expand you have to upgrade a little at a time , look at thatwoodguy he's always upgrading his equipment and growing his business. Or stick and fight with what you have spinning your wheels and rant vidjas, enjoy both of your guys channels. I talk from experience I own a small plumbing business two secretaries and 3 trucks on the road and at 60 years old starting a firewood business partially from watching you guys and my love for the woods
@@jimrichards8703 depends on the bussiness, some things are more profitable than others. I've done tons and I'm now down grading. There is no way I could afford to pay a delivery driver, a guy to cut the wood, and someone to split, while still being profitable. I'm sure you can do this in plumbing, as there is just more money to go around. I beleive there is a reason why you see no chain firewood places, market just won't bear it, at least in my area, it's all mom and pops. I could buy a 150k processor and would still lose my ass on expenses
Firewood is often a byproduct business for loggers or sawmills. To be a stand-alone and make money you need to sell bundles where there’s a huge markup. Otherwise it’s just too hard on your equipment (and back!) to be worth doing.
We sold slabs to campsite stores and dry oak to ski condo owners. I had a high school kid splitting and loading the truck for $20 a cord. It got rid of cull wood and slabs but if it hadn’t been all cash I wouldn’t have even bothered.
If bro pulls up in a 50k plus truck to deliver a face cord of wood, tell him to keep driving. Guarantee he ain't been dealing in firewood very long and doesn't know much. Truck bed probably loaded with green cottonwood and willow lol
lol the sad thing is how expensive new trucks are, 50k doesn't even really buy anything super elaborate
@@splittinnstuff6571 Right. And prices just keep going up it's crazy
Face cord in a 100k truck😂
Where I come from bud this thing is a gem.
That’s actually 29 years on the road for the ole f350 that’s pretty good service out of one truck.
I know haha, I fixed it in the description. When I said trans was done 2 years ago, I meant 2 years before it was taken off the road also, so 2014
As much as I hate to admit it that’s pretty good service for an old Ford. Lol
Yeah people keep telling me to get new bed for my truck. If I put money into the truck it will be to keep it running
my plans are to eventually replace the gmc with another dump truck, or at least heavy pickup. As long as she behaves I'll keep her. That way I'll have the little ranger for running around, and the dump for work
Hello you thank video ôtô
Instead of a new buy a processor
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