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makes me appreciate my 40 gallon hot water tank that has zero power going to it... and if the world goes to shit, I have 40 gallons of drinking water sitting there.
Soooooo right. All this technology. I love my 80% boilers.
I'd Have them install an uninterruptible power supply (UPS) in place of that surge protector its plugged into. It'll be able to correct for power transients and hold up the power while the generator starts
I was going to recommend this too. Use them for a lot of my electronics and my pellet stove.
I would install a UPS to fill the gap between when the power is loss and when the generator kicks on, just make sure the wattage rating meets the demand for Navien combo.
You could use a small computer, UPS unit to supply power continuously for short periods of time in between the generator switching
The microprocessors we all exist with now never like to see power spikes or brief drop-outs. Strange things can happen, seemingly for no reason. ~ Good to hear things are going good with your boy.
Standard electronics design practice is to have a chip which holds the digital circuitry in reset whenever power isn't stable. This is even included in most microcontrollers. There must be something wrong with their design (or a defect in the particular unit) if power fluctuations can lead to corruption of the nonvolatile memory.
And somehow, before all
These computers, we had gas furnaces with thermocouples that lasted years, always worked, and the most complicated thing to do was relight the pilot
Unfortunately cars are the same way if not worse.
@@kenrolle2338 I was a mechanic for over 25 years. I spent the last 20 chasing signals and voltages all over them!
except they dumped 40% of the heat produced up the stack including cycling losses and had minimal safeties. it is possible to make a 90%+ furnace with minimal electronics (just the ignition module), that is what the first ones were like. a bit of complexity is okay as long as it has benefits like improved comfort or lower electric consumption- complexity for complexity's sake is a problem.
@@Jon-hx7pe tell the engineers that. I don’t see anything ever getting easier to work on
in fairness, some have gotten better with respect to service access. like on new lennox condensing flame sensor and igniter are very easy to get at. the older carrier condensing furnaces were really horrible for service access and that has improved. the electronics are indeed getting more complex.@@marknaravas318
I know that you're thinking the same thing I am. Circuit board. If everything else seems to be working, yet it's throwing codes. And you just don't want to replace it, because those are rather expensive, although, it's probably covered under the customer's warranty.
A UPS (Uninterruptible power supply) would be perfect for this application. Even a large computer unit should be enough to carry it onto the generator. Cheap enough and should solve the issue. I will say, I never had an issue like this with my Bosch Therm C 1210ESC. Power can go down to 100v or less and it runs like there's no issue. Power can go out and it starts up like nothing happened. The gas line can be full of air and it starts up like nothing happened. It's actually pretty amazing how reliable it is but being a "commercial" unit I would expect it.
That's a nice, neat installation job. It looks like one installed by a tech. Still, too many pipes for my taste.
Might want to try a battery backup (UPS) like they use on a computer. Not too expensive and will stop the surge and will keep the system on until the generator starts and or power is restored. I put in two of them and the battery last more than 5 years. The battery is similar to ones used in riding lawn mowers but better quality. Thanks
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I see a lot of suggestions for a UPS, and I agree with one very important caveat: Use ONLY a true Sinewave UPS, not one of the cheaper "Modified Sinewave" type. The non-true sinewave types produce a very choppy waveform that electronics don't like. (The main reason why they still work with a computer is that a computer power supply is heavily filtered compared to the simple power supplies in stuff like the tankless shown here.)
Unless it's a capacitive dropper an electronic power supply won't really care. I'd be more concerned about AC-only motors like the circulator pump and zone valves.
gotta be something on the main PCB that holds the configuration
that's what I was thinking also. maybe the memory chip is bad or maybe there is a battery on the board to keep the data like a computer v3 battery that has gone bad.
they coin back up power battery like computers have to keep settings
Maybe the control board has a backup battery like PC's do and it is flat.
Isn't technology wonderful, the manufactures turn the contractor and customer into their research and development department.
Wouldn't a UPS battery backup work?
what about a solar generator as a UPS just for that unit?
Fucking hell. Time for some steak and rice. What a daym day...
Sorry,no wall hung boiler or hot water heater
Not to be rude but that unit is not suppose to be plugged into a power strip😊
customer did that
The responsibility of the installer should be to make sure the electric is plugged in properly to an outlet grounded
I don't see what the problem is. It's not overloaded and the extra surge suppression won't hurt. That's probably why the customer added it.
The weird thing is that's a "energy-saving" power strip which automatically switches off some of its outlets when the device plugged into the "control" outlet isn't drawing power.
@@eDoc2020 It’s not up to code can’t use extension cords of any kind
@@user-rf4ps5co8r What code is that a violation of? Also that unit is UL listed as relocatable power tap and surge protective device, not an extension cord.
Only solution for this kind of stupidity is that outlet is directly connected to a power bank. So even if the power goes out in the building, the power bank never loses any power
Or you know, something built for exactly this called a UPS.....
Heard nothing but bad things about these...
They are beibg sued by a massive law firm right now
@zack9912000 Ya, I've been following it... What a mess....
I’ve heard these units are junk. Not made very well and full of issues.
not true
pipe doctor has documented a lot of problems with them and horrible corporate behavior. @@MiHeatingGuy
If not true, then did they fixed the black oil residue dripping, the heat exchanger from leaking and loose screws on the heat exchanger straight out of the box?