I hope this transceiver will be available. The microwave bands are really fun. Hill top events, roving in contest. This radio could really increase activity.
2:50 Re: The asterisk by "10GHz" According to Google translate, the footnote for the asterisk translates to: "Optional CX-10G is required" Current google searches for icom cx-10g don't reveal anything useful, aside from other articles about the preliminary specs for this rig, haha.
Not sure yet, but for best performance an external dish would be the best. I imagine the 10G unit won't come with an antenna (or it might?) we shall see!
Think the radio is just a pa then it goes cat cable to tranverters where the rf deck is housed then coax to antenna. I think they did that to lower losses from amp to antenna. Looks like 10w out up to 1.2//5w out on 2.4&5.6//.5 out on 10g is what * means I believe 😉😉exciting to see sum one giving us access to the microwave bands ☺️
I just watched their video where they introduced the 905. It looks great. I’m just anxious about it’s price tag. If it’s the same price as the 705, I’m in. If it’s more like I think it will be, I’m not so sure.
Must admit this could be the next purchase as HF at my QTH is next to impossible and VK3 has some dedicated microwave folks that I'm sure I could play with. 73's
Credit for the innovation. Not sure of the take up though. Currently in my area no one uses 2m, 70cm or 23cm so will be unlikely to use this. I would of thought opening up the 9700 for 138-174 Mhz and 400 to 500 Mhz (maybe a 9710 or something) would be of more use.
Quite a lot of 10G activity in southern California, and groups of enthusiasts in the northeast/great lakes area too. A few other pockets around the country.
It looks like the spiritual successor to the IC-900 and IC-901. I am hoping that it has Satellite modes, as that will seriously increase its target audience.
If you can do a "MARS Mod" on this, I'll get my company to buy it. We manufacture 2/2.5/4.5-5.0/6.5/7/12/13 GHz antennas and being able to have a relatively inexpensive TX/RX for testing would be great.
G'day Hayden. 1st up love your steam last weekend watched "most" of it had to work on Sunday but checked in at 12.45 didn't think that you were going to make it 🙂 So tonight another great video, as senior Network Comms Engineer & fellow amateur ( VK3ECS ) I have a couple of questions about this radio. (A) How is it going to comply with the ACMA DFS act Dynamic Frequency Selection (DFS) and Transmitter Power Control (TPC) Where here in Australia where some 5 GHz wireless channels co-exist with some Radar frequencies. Rather than ban WiFi for these frequencies, the ACMA has followed the same principle used in USA and the EU and allowed WiFi to operate on these same frequencies under the limitation that the WiFi gear must have: DFS: a mechanism to automatically detect Radar, and move off to a different channel, and TPC: a mechanism where the TX power can be reduced at least 6 dB below the maximum permitted. (B) What's going to happen to 5.8Ghz PtP Links will this radio have the ability to "crash them" ? & for that matter what about drone use that is also using 5.8Ghz ?. ( I'm, also a CASA Licenced commercial Drone Operator ) (C) Considering that 5GHz spectrum is unlicensed, but is still regulated with TX banned on U-NII-2 Chnl 52 5260Ghz Chnl 56 5280Ghz Chnl 60 5300Ghz Chnl 64 5320Ghz And all the other Chnls / Freq's with Maximum EIRP limits & strict Indoor only use only of U-NII-1 Chnl 34 5170Ghz to Chnl 48 5240Ghz and U-NII-2E Chnl 100 5500Ghz to Chnl 140 5700Ghz What's the chance of this radio getting ACMA approval in Australia any time soon ?. Look forward to hopefully seeing you in Nov ( I am trying to rope in some fellow amateurs including my son Tim VK1TTY ) who I believe that you know 🙂 Keep up the great work 🙂 Rgs Wayne VK3ECS
I wonder if they will have Data Modes covered.?? Certainly at 5.8Ghz & 10Ghz theoretically you could move some serious data.? 1300Mbps @ 5.8GHz & 1.0Gb/s @ 10GHz
sure its cool, but the one reason I don't think I'd buy it, is because it really doesn't make itself useful on a "Daily" basis for many simply and sadly because of its low wattage output on 144/440 bands..... if it had 50 watts out on just those 2 bands, I would consider a purchase with much more veracity.
@@zackwidup3701 Well sure, you can put any antenna on it you like, but those antennas are mostly home brew. They're not going to sell a radio to appliance operators and tell them they have to build an antenna out of a surplus DSS dish and plumbing parts to get it to work. I expect Icom will have something for it to work with out of the box (or at least available as an extra cost option).
@@stargazer7644 Well, maybe this thing isn't meant for weak-signal ops then. Probably the targets for buying it are people who don't know much about the bands it has.
@@stargazer7644 I would totally love to see some sort of circular fan type dish antenna for 10Ghz come out to make it super portable. Wishful thinking I'm sure, but still would be amazing!
I can imagine having a new digital mode where you try and transfer big amounts of data at long range in SHF. So the bigger the packets and the further the contact the higher you rank in a competition which would mean you gave to go tropo or moon bounce. The comp could start on Jan 1 and end in December giving everyone the chance to use good tropo patterns. Thanks. VK1NME.
i get it V(hf)ery, U(hf)ultra and S(hf)uper surprised. sadly looks like no satellite (full duplex) mode, which for this type of radio is stupid. i can see 2 groups that will buy this those who play in the high bands and those who do sat coms which the later has not been thought of. maybe a future update or a mk2 version will have full duplex
IC705 price is ridicules, let Icom humour us with the price tag attached to the IC 905. Is 10GHz worth the time? we will have to wait and see. Till then, lets get the bands that we already have active.
I've got booted with Japan ham radio. All they offer is overpriced radios with 10 to 20 year old technology. Ham radio was supposed to be the leader in communication. Makers seem to be the ones why try.
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I hope this transceiver will be available. The microwave bands are really fun. Hill top events, roving in contest. This radio could really increase activity.
Especially on 10 GHz!
I worked my first 10 GHz QSO indoors at the Hudson Division ARRL Convention using Gunnplexers! I have the certificate! LOLOL 73 DE N2GJ
Good stuff Hayden. Lets hope it has proper GPS locking ;)
2:50 Re: The asterisk by "10GHz"
According to Google translate, the footnote for the asterisk translates to: "Optional CX-10G is required"
Current google searches for icom cx-10g don't reveal anything useful, aside from other articles about the preliminary specs for this rig, haha.
The tone of your voice suggests to me that if it is possible, you will own this radio.
If it's possible
The World need a 2nd and a 3rd QO-100 ...
I agree.
Possibly linked eachother.
This will be perfect for me as I don't have the room for big HF antennas so I want to get into UHF and SHF.
OK Hayden, very cool.. So what sort of antenna would we use at 5 & 10GHz..? ARe there lots of options - or will it always be a dish?
Not sure yet, but for best performance an external dish would be the best. I imagine the 10G unit won't come with an antenna (or it might?) we shall see!
Phased arrays of patch antennas?
We would have to step away from the world of wire antennas for sure
Think the radio is just a pa then it goes cat cable to tranverters where the rf deck is housed then coax to antenna. I think they did that to lower losses from amp to antenna. Looks like 10w out up to 1.2//5w out on 2.4&5.6//.5 out on 10g is what * means I believe 😉😉exciting to see sum one giving us access to the microwave bands ☺️
Cool, can’t wait to see what they have the offer
Very interesting.. AV in? Looking forward to learning more !
I just watched their video where they introduced the 905. It looks great. I’m just anxious about it’s price tag. If it’s the same price as the 705, I’m in. If it’s more like I think it will be, I’m not so sure.
Must admit this could be the next purchase as HF at my QTH is next to impossible and VK3 has some dedicated microwave folks that I'm sure I could play with. 73's
power output: 10W on 144/430/1.2GHz, 2W on 2.4/5.6GHz, 0.5W on 10GHz
Wow if this can transmit digital ATV it would be a game changer! Can’t wait to set the official specs!
Would be pretty awesome! DATV probably not likely, but analog most likely with the 3.5mm jacks. I wonder if you can watch directly using the screen 🤔🤔
Now someone get the programming for mmsstv and easypal... Heh
Initially, it will be analog ATV, no details about Digital ATV at this time.
@@HamRadioDX From what I have seen, it will display on the screen.
Credit for the innovation. Not sure of the take up though. Currently in my area no one uses 2m, 70cm or 23cm so will be unlikely to use this. I would of thought opening up the 9700 for 138-174 Mhz and 400 to 500 Mhz (maybe a 9710 or something) would be of more use.
The IC-9700 architecture precludes "opening it up".
And .... Hayden will be the 1st to get and evaluate this new Icom!!!
I hope so! We have a large microwave contingent down here that will be VERY, ULTRA and SUPER interested in this radio 👀
Not sure I need anything else other than my ic9700, little or no activity here for SHF frequencies...
The SHF bands are very active in my part of the world. We love experimenting with the higher bands
Quite a lot of 10G activity in southern California, and groups of enthusiasts in the northeast/great lakes area too. A few other pockets around the country.
It looks like the spiritual successor to the IC-900 and IC-901. I am hoping that it has Satellite modes, as that will seriously increase its target audience.
Will it have a REAL (properly implemented) 10 MHz external reference input, or better yet a GPSDO ?
Let’s hope!
If you can do a "MARS Mod" on this, I'll get my company to buy it. We manufacture 2/2.5/4.5-5.0/6.5/7/12/13 GHz antennas and being able to have a relatively inexpensive TX/RX for testing would be great.
Hopefully icom Australia Show it off at the NCRG Ham Fest in Perth on the 28th August 2022.
Oh, my qo100 rig (y)
*Optional CX-10G is required.
The * by 10ghz probably means it's an extra cost option.
Yeah, that's what the Japanese says on the screenshot. There's an optional 10G module.
G'day Hayden.
1st up love your steam last weekend watched "most" of it had to work on Sunday but checked in at 12.45 didn't think that you were going to make it 🙂
So tonight another great video, as senior Network Comms Engineer & fellow amateur ( VK3ECS ) I have a couple of questions about this radio.
(A) How is it going to comply with the ACMA DFS act
Dynamic Frequency Selection (DFS) and Transmitter Power Control (TPC)
Where here in Australia where some 5 GHz wireless channels co-exist with some Radar frequencies. Rather than ban WiFi for these frequencies, the ACMA has followed the same principle used in USA and the EU and allowed WiFi to operate on these same frequencies under the limitation that the WiFi gear must have:
DFS: a mechanism to automatically detect Radar, and move off to a different channel, and
TPC: a mechanism where the TX power can be reduced at least 6 dB below the maximum permitted.
(B) What's going to happen to 5.8Ghz PtP Links will this radio have the ability to "crash them" ? & for that matter what about drone use that is also using 5.8Ghz ?.
( I'm, also a CASA Licenced commercial Drone Operator )
(C) Considering that 5GHz spectrum is unlicensed, but is still regulated with TX banned on U-NII-2
Chnl 52 5260Ghz
Chnl 56 5280Ghz
Chnl 60 5300Ghz
Chnl 64 5320Ghz
And all the other Chnls / Freq's with Maximum EIRP limits & strict Indoor only use only of U-NII-1
Chnl 34 5170Ghz
to
Chnl 48 5240Ghz
and U-NII-2E
Chnl 100 5500Ghz
to
Chnl 140 5700Ghz
What's the chance of this radio getting ACMA approval in Australia any time soon ?.
Look forward to hopefully seeing you in Nov ( I am trying to rope in some fellow amateurs including my son Tim VK1TTY ) who I believe that you know 🙂
Keep up the great work 🙂
Rgs
Wayne VK3ECS
AV Audio/Video In/Out, wonder if it will support Analogue and Digital(DATV)..??
Analogue only at the moment I believe
Thanks for the great heads up mate 👍
No problem 👍
dont forget the long awaited pw-2 amplifier
I wonder if they will have Data Modes covered.??
Certainly at 5.8Ghz & 10Ghz theoretically you could move some serious data.? 1300Mbps @ 5.8GHz & 1.0Gb/s @ 10GHz
I can imagine 144 / 432 / 1296 from the main Radio Body, and 5.8 / 10 via external Outdoor Transverters.?
sure its cool, but the one reason I don't think I'd buy it, is because it really doesn't make itself useful on a "Daily" basis for many simply and sadly because of its low wattage output on 144/440 bands..... if it had 50 watts out on just those 2 bands, I would consider a purchase with much more veracity.
If that is true, it'd be insane!😮
How about HDMI and running Crysis? Lol
You would be the first to buy one I'm thinking.🤔👍
Nahh, Half Life 3.
I’m curious about the antenna options for this. I assume Icom will have an antenna for it since you can’t really go to HRO and buy a 10GHz antenna.
We shall see! Maybe a simple horn antenna or something?
All of us doing weak-signal work on 10 GHz use dishes. There should be an option with a connector for an external antenna of your choice.
@@zackwidup3701 Well sure, you can put any antenna on it you like, but those antennas are mostly home brew. They're not going to sell a radio to appliance operators and tell them they have to build an antenna out of a surplus DSS dish and plumbing parts to get it to work. I expect Icom will have something for it to work with out of the box (or at least available as an extra cost option).
@@stargazer7644 Well, maybe this thing isn't meant for weak-signal ops then. Probably the targets for buying it are people who don't know much about the bands it has.
@@stargazer7644 I would totally love to see some sort of circular fan type dish antenna for 10Ghz come out to make it super portable. Wishful thinking I'm sure, but still would be amazing!
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The asterix is referring to: "Optional CX-10G required" - according to google translate!😀
I wonder if it's good for Oscar-100 in Europe???
Any idea as to the introductory price tag?
Pioneer in ham radio.
That's Icom!
Oh wow, looks like it's going to be expensive, but then, like oh, what the hell.
Option CX-10G required, what it says just below that *.
Wonder if it could do some satellite comms
10GHz is an option you can add if you're so inclined!!! Will be interesting how much all that will cost you!!!🎙👍💰
I can imagine having a new digital mode where you try and transfer big amounts of data at long range in SHF. So the bigger the packets and the further the contact the higher you rank in a competition which would mean you gave to go tropo or moon bounce. The comp could start on Jan 1 and end in December giving everyone the chance to use good tropo patterns.
Thanks.
VK1NME.
Interesting stuff
i get it V(hf)ery, U(hf)ultra and S(hf)uper surprised. sadly looks like no satellite (full duplex) mode, which for this type of radio is stupid. i can see 2 groups that will buy this those who play in the high bands and those who do sat coms which the later has not been thought of. maybe a future update or a mk2 version will have full duplex
Satellite operation will still be possible using split operation, albeit not as good as full duplex of course
Im still saving for a 7300...lol
do u think 1/2 a watt is enough on 10Gig??
For terrestrial, yes.
EME you’ll need a bit more power - 10W minimum for the big stations.
Interesting.
Nice!
But does it do ssb, or real APRS?
"ATV"
There's your video out! :D
Giggity.
Boom!
In Japanese it says 10G needs to be added
In Europe we have a geo satellite 2.4 g up 10g down so you never know
Microwave shack in a box
IC705 price is ridicules, let Icom humour us with the price tag attached to the IC 905. Is 10GHz worth the time? we will have to wait and see.
Till then, lets get the bands that we already have active.
You would want a big wallet to get all the modules for it
Now we know the antenna source module is good for all the bands except the 10 GHz
Sstv I thinks
If any of this is true... I'm gonna be broke for a long time after this releases 🤣
Oof you and me both
Pretty sure I wont be able to afford it.
I've got booted with Japan ham radio. All they offer is overpriced radios with 10 to 20 year old technology. Ham radio was supposed to be the leader in communication. Makers seem to be the ones why try.
Hopefully the North American model has 220
why?
@@superpro1941 so we can operate on 220mhz of course
It will not have it
To bad not 100 Watts on vhf
no 220 ? not too smart
Do japanese hams have 220?
Vy nice from down under ! , tnx !
please go on ! 73 ON4SG,