IK Multimedia MODO Drums Review
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- In this video, I'll be reviewing MODO Drum from IK Multimedia.
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One thing you didn't mention is the educational aspect. As someone who has a drum kit and can play it at a very basic level, but has never experimented with any other drums, the ability to play with the model in MODO Drum and very quickly get some idea of how different aspects of the hardware and playing style affect the drum sound is gratifyingly eye-opening. I suspect it will help focus what I look for and how I look for it, if and when it comes time for me to upgrade my kit.
This is an often (unintentionally) overlooked aspect of well designed software - that they can be invaluable learning tools as well by allowing quick and easy experimentation.
Love the approach to the sound designing of the kits.
You seem to have the most informative video for this programme. Thanks for making things so much simpler.
One of the first virtual instruments I bought. All because of this video man. thanks
These drums sound great - Just bought ModoDrum and your video was a great help to understanding what can be done, thank you!
Within 5 minutes of opening the free version I’d dug about as deep as you went here and after watching this I’m totally sold.
Thank you for the review it was very informative. I needed a drum vst that had great realistic sounds and could be easily tweaked to suit a song. I don't have time to audition 200GB of samples so the way this performs suits my needs completely.
Excellent review. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise.
WOW just bought this monster. XLN does this and LOVE it as well. Started w Toon EZDrummer 2 some years ago. LOVE your Reviews and DEPTH of it all. Got enough Drums ! IKMM Hammond X-3 is AMAZZING. Just Getting Started one fears.
Hope you are well Mike!....All the best too!!!!
Grate review deep sound design with this drum plugin 👍🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sounds lovely ! am downloading as i type !
wow never did hear the modo drums thanks Mike for a great look into it ! they sound great
Wow, IK, you be steppin it up! Sold.
What a great concept. Awesome sounds. All I was wishing for was a kick that was quite heavily damped, like having a pillow inside, or maybe removing the front skin. No denying the sounds and interface are very nice though. Thanks again Mike.
Incredible work by IK Multimedia.
I've been using NI Studio Drummer for years and years. Quite intuitive and sounds great. I rarely change things up unless really necessary (to avoid learning curves and fiddling around). But...if I were to change...I'd definitely buy this next.
Superior Drummer 3 or EZ Drummer 3 will blow your mind
Great! I really like modelled instruments, prefer the adjustments than for sampled instruments.
Impressive explanations. Many thanks
I found you through the suggested videos.This type of tutorials helped me a lot with my music carrier and to make more music on my CZcams channel . please keep it up! Just subbed! God bless you!
Beautiful Review! I’m getting this Plugin ❤
this one is actually really good, I ve never heard about this vst before. I really like it wow !!! dayum!!!!
Thanks, I'm getting one now:)
They sound great - and really flexible.
Cool interface. Funny that every demo I have seen of this plugin starts with drums in a cave presets. No cut on any reviewer... I would love to hear presets sound more natural in a nice studio. The super-reverb can always be added later. It just makes them sound fake right away.
Because they are fake, there is no reverb in the sounds as they are mostly synthesized
First video I saw from you. First thought:“hey this is a very likeable guy. And even better he is not a kid anymore as so many other people her presenting YT videos.
Very informative and useful video. Pretty sure I will buy this plugin when there is a sale or cheap offer.
There's one on right now, $149. I stumbled on the sale, then came here for Mike's review.
Not affiliated with either.
I use MODO Drum myself (as well as MODO Bass and Amplitube MAX). I love the IK library of plugins. THANK YOU for this greater in-depth review. You've opened my eyes to options I have not yet considered. 🤘
Awesome Dave, thanks for watching :)
I have a bunch of ik stuff, and was intrigued by modo drum as an upgraded sound source for my electronic kit, however their demo videos don't really give you a sense of the actual sound of the drums.
Now I'm sold!
I absolutely love physical modeling, and this is a great use of it. I've got a Wavedrum, a Yamaha wx5/vl70m, and the Zildjian gen16 physical modeling cymbals. The flexibility of these instruments is great, because they respond like real instruments.
My only wish was to understand how modo drums play from a physical electronic drum kit. E.g., can it handle dual trigger pads by simulating where on the head the drum is struck, so you get the proper variation in tone.
I like this drum❤
You are the best on You Tube!
Great sounding kits! One of them you can now get for free (the studio kit). BTW: I discovered a neat little trick that should not work but nevertheless does in GarageBand (maybe in Logic Pro too, I don't know). When you add an accompanying drummer track to a GB project you'll normally get some sounds and presets from the GB library which sound mediocre at best. In the track it always appears like an audio file, not a midi drum track.
But when you replace the company drum plugin of that track (1st plugin in the smart controls) with the MODO drum plugin you still get the same beats - but played by the MODO sounds! You can alter anything you want in the MODO plugin menus and - what's best: You can also create different regions in the drum track which you can individually modify (by double clicking the region) with different beat presets, rhythm patterns, complexity, volume, fills and swing rates - just like if you'd use the factory GB drummer. But it will still use the better MODO sounds.
I love IK Multimedia man....Have the new custom shop installed,and Amplitube 5 as well. Izotope rocks as well. Very good amp sim,plug-ins,etc... from em Mike!!! Glad ya did this,I have been debating on Modo drums myself. Have a good one man and keep up the GREAT WORK!!! PEACE...
On sale now...
i only got the free version mike but i love it think its become my instant favorite
IK software is so insanly customizable. Just awesome.
Sounds great
Modo bass and Drums are very versatile and delicius VSTIs. And also price is vey competitive.
Thanks for the review, it is quite complete - but it lacks some sound examples of individual pieces. I ended up with no idea of how hi hats, cymbals, etc sound. That's a good idea for another video.
Wow. Sounds awesome! I am a drummer myself and wish i could do this with my own acoustic kit aswell.. 😂😂. So much customization possibilities and great sounds.
I really appreciate this video, It has intrigued me to purchase this software, but im hoping there is a trial version, so i can preview it . But yeah big thumbs up for this video, thankyou.
I will buy because of your review. Do modo bass next
Great info, thanks! I'm having it sitting on my system but never even once opened yet :D So this was a nice reminder, cheers!
Lol. No excuses now!
I'll be happy to accept a donation of your license key if you aren't going to use it.
My garage band from 50 years ago is getting back together and SSD5 Free is the best I could manage.
@@bzolsen Thanks for the kind offer :D By now, this software has grown on me and thanks to this video, I appreciate it now more than before, sorry.
But SSD5 is very nice too, no doubt about that.
IF you want to snag the MODO Drum anyways, you may get a good price at their annual "Group Buy" or other of the several "special deals" that pop up here and there.
I keep track of those via the FB group "Audio Plugin Sales, Deals and Freebies". Cheers!
This actually seems WAY more intuitive than Superior Drummer 3 and sounds just as good if not better.
The kits are very clean.
It looks nice and sounds good. But a bit 'too' good in my opinion, making it less realistic sounding than Superior Drummer 3. The weak spot for me is the cymbals. There're 3 sets of those, and these are sample based. I was looking at this for cymbal swells, as these are hard to do well. But MODO DRUM has the same limitations here as sample based solutions, with way less options. I don't like the hats. On the snare, I miss some real 'smack'. On the other hand, it's quite easy to get a good kick sound from it.
When mixed with a little bit of saturation and parallel compression, it sounds great and it's very tweakableHuge
Superior Drummer does sound better to me though, but that comes at a cost. I don't like the default samples, but the new expansion kits sound amazing. They are about 60Gb per expansion though, and costly. Both in price as disk space. SSD3 takes about 500Gb of SSD space on my system. A plus on Superior is that it also has drum machine sounds, percussion and a huge selection of cymbals and hats. It also has a vastly bigger groove library with a nice power hand tweaking algorithm. And it can do drum detection to MIDI for drum replacement.
The two are not really comparable and might even complement each other.
@@Mickimmusic I agree. Although I haven't used MODO Drum for myself. I'm still using SD2, and I think it sounds a little more realistic than this. Probably because this is too clean lol. But MODO Drum might be ideal for layering live drums.
Addictive drums 2 is still the best
Not even CLOSE to EZ Drummer, let alone SD3. It’s not even in a nearby league…don’t get me wrong, it’s ok. Just not a comparison. Hi hats are very basic. Presets are not incredibly usable or creatively inspiring. SD3 was miked and recorded by George Massenburg in FAR more depth. They use the actual *brand* kits so you know exactly what you’re getting, and some of the other producer packages they make are incredible. Also, SD3 just sounds a thousand times more “human“. I hope MODO gets better over time. I just don’t think this is as unique as this video is expressing.
The online demos of this don't always do this plugin justice. Yours is the best. Also let me say that although the CPU usage of this plugin is rather high, the kit piece customization capabilities lend themselves to routing to external fx (the dry sound of these drum pieces can have a bright high end that can accept the external processing in a more versatile way than less bright samples of the rompler-based plugins. )
I am a very happy user of Toontrack EZdrummer 2. However, I am also a big fan of almost all IK Multimedia software. Great video, again!!
I want MODO Drum!
This is the best drum so far
That looks great, would love to use it but I can't justify the spend when I've got EZDrummer that does what I need. Need IK Mulitmedia to let you do another plugin give away 😄
Wow, got me. After 30+ years of drumming I allways was frustrated at the non randomness. This is exactly what I wanted
Great review Mike - seems like a decent bit of kit. I'll stick with my free Steven Slate Drums for the moment though :-)
it would be great to have the option of using brushes as well as sticks. But I haven't seen any kit offering this.
Thanks for the video. Great review! Is there an option to route overhead and room mics as a separate channels?
OHH YESS!!! I also got this drum kit.. I just absolutely had to get it while the promo was still up. Thank you for video.
For them who dont know what it is. It is not a drum libary. Its more like a drum synth. You build your own drum kits and sounds with it and it is super realistic even tho its not actual drum samples.
how much did you pay for the promo?
@@tunefish82 It's on sale at Sweetwater for $149 through February 2nd.
Great review and amazing sound! Anyway what’s the brand of the your mike arm?
Thank you for showing me. this Sounds great and I love that i can use it in standalone mode , I am not a big d a w guy.
Would have been nice to see it used in a DAW, like Cakewalk by BandLab. I have it but don't know to add intro, verse, chorus, outro, etc.
Thanks for the video, very interesting. I like the level of customization available for the sounds and the drag and drop method to compile songs. Once dropped in the DAW (I use Cubase Artist 12) are they standard MIDI files that can be edited with the drum editor?
i like the sounds and the variation options for snare and kick ,does it have any variation setting for hi hat? does it have options for the various Roland v kits or any other V kits . thanks
MODO Drums has no brushes? Excellent video! As much a tutorial on midi drums as a product review.. Thanks Mike for taking time to do it right.
Yeah, no brushes is a bummer!
@@coloaten6682 or mallets or hotrods
no 2x4's either...
Please how do you make the individual drum components into multiple outputs in Cubase or Ableton? I needed to know
Brill Video
Wish this plugin had a resize option, so I could use every option at the bottom in FL Studio
You are a quick mathematician....;)
When it come to vsts I have a evo 500 ssd os / 1tb ssd ext but all my vst n daws are all DLoad setup files do I need to format ssd n set up vst folders ect... are do I just unzip n le t it setup itself
How many hat variations? Can you separate the open hat and closed hat in the mixer? This is something I've been having to use velocity to fix.
This is a totally newbie question. Do I need sampletank to run this or is it stand alone. I'd be triggering with edrums
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A few things:
- The cymbals being sampled is most likely the reason why it is 7 GB in size, instead of MODO Bass' 192 MB.
- The fast loading has nothing to do with how the plugin works, but with it taking advantage of AVX CPU instructions. If your CPU doesn't have them, the plugin will refuse to install.
There are a number of issues reported when trying to drop the midi groove clips into DAW. Any tips, experience of these problems?
I played a long time ago and could never figure out how to get the sound I wanted. By the time you switch out one head (or set of snares, etc etc) for another you've forgotten what the first one sounded like--to say nothing of the expense of buying heads etc you don't want to use because they don't sound like you want.
Mike: have you used MODO within studio one? I am having a few deal-breaker problems. Please advise if you can get it to work as a multi instrument to DAW outputs in Studio One. The lack of Room output seems to be a known problem, but the audio misrouting problem that I see may be unique to me.
Update May 15 2021: I am giving up on MoDO Drums and reverting back to Steven Slate 5.5. I wanted Modo Drums to work but there were too many problems in my Studio One setup. I reported several issues to IK Multi and at least one was officially recognized as a flaw that needed fixing. This issue was that some note velocities wouldn’t sound , requiring me to manually adjust them slightly. I record with e-drums so the velocities vary. Listening note-by-note to find and edit flubs is very tedious. The other problems I had were intermittent and hard to reproduce, but they were real problems that became deal killers for me.
But even without the bugs I found the cymbals to be poor quality, too limited, and too quiet. I had to use plugins within Modo to raise the level, but one of my intermittent problems was that that the Modo plugins would stop working. I had to remove and reinsert them to restore function. And slight changes in velocity would produce very drastic changes in tone on all the instruments. I also had problems with multi outputs to Studio One, where in some circumstances some outputs wouldn’t play unless I inserted dummy (unused) outputs in the setup.
I liked MODO’s ease of crafting a drum sound that I wanted (as compared to SSD’s bizarre library system), but the bugs and meager cymbals caused me to give up on Modo Drums for now. I switched back to Slate and the results were (to my ear) far superior to Modo Drums.
The IK Multi customer support takes weeks to respond, and I sense that there is minimal product development. I think there has been only one update since a Modo Drums was introduced a long time ago. I would expect a new program like this to have updates every month or so. I am sure I am not the only user submitting bug reports, but I don’t see any update coming soon (or ever).
Your experience may be better than mine, but for now I have to put MODO drums on the back burner (or maybe even in the freezer). I wanted to like it but for me the cons outweighed the pros.
Hello! I came across your very detailed comment and gave this a try. I'm by no means well versed with Studio One but assigning separate outputs for Modo Drum (15 besides the "Master") worked like a breeze. It's done similar in Cakewalk, just opening the Mixer inside Modo Drum and set each instrument to DAW-->Output Chan.
This was tested just now (18Jul21) with Modo Drum 1.1.3 (there was an update in their "Product Manager"). Release notes state "Changes from version 1.1.2:
Fixed an issue with the level scaling of the velocity."
Is it possible to adjust ADSR for each drum?
I don't want to add more tracks and add more third party fx plugins to mix the drum since the Modo Drum alone uses alot of CPU power.
I want to mix the drums inside the modo drum as much as I can to save CPU load but can't seem to figure out how to add more buses or make the internal 8 buses to show up.
Can someone help me with this?
Thank you in advance.
Hello! For me it dosen t work to drag and drop a pattern from the plugin into the track does somebody know why??
it's really funny. I've been using ezdrummer for years, and the thing is, it sounds like midi drums unless i play with an electronic drum kit. ezdrummer relies on velocity for variation. even if you have it set to the high sample setting, it still sounds like machine guns of the velocity is the same. i pulled up modo drum, plugged in a snare toll, same velocity, there's obvious variation, and it sounds way more realistic. 🤦🏻♂️ it's pretty insane how good it sounds
Yes, but the price is still so steep. Would get a lot of use out of it and it would become my preferred drummer.
Can you have a real drum trigger these sounds? Like If I mic up a not so great sounding drum set, can I have it trigger the kick and snare?
Yes, in real time, say for sound reinforcement live or after the fact with drum replacement.
Hi!
Hey MC :)
sounds big and very customizable, perhaps better than Steven Slate! which makes me sad 😂
How would you say this compares to superior drums?
Can somebody help me? I bought this product and I love it madly. The only problem I have is I can't change the pan of the hi-hats and other cymbals. I want them a little closer to the center but the pan controls in the mixer panel are not functioning. The sounds always stay the same.
That will be down to the overhead mics. Either turn down the hat and cymbal sends to the overheads for individual control or turn down the overheads completely for global control.
@@eggsmungling7960 Sorry for the late reply, I missed out on this post. I tried a lot of things but wasn't totally satisfied. Then I discovered Steven Slate drums and found everything I was looking for. The issues I had before don't exist anymore, the sounds and functions are much better. I definitely recommend it.
Is this compatible with garageband and ios?
If you tell me I need to use just one kit from SD3 or everything MODO offers I still stick with the real sound SD3 gives me.
RIP SD3
Great vid Mike..great product.....HOLY SH..T ... HOW MUCH? Sorry. My salary jut about pays the mortgage and gets cat food.
Modo drums is a game changer. It would kill addictive drums.
In the system requirements, it says 16 GB RAM recommended, and 20 GB hard drive space. I only have about 6 GB available right now. It's too bad, because I wanted to use this one instead of my "perfect drums." I think this one sounds better. I'd free up space if I uninstalled Perfect Drums, but probably still not enough.
I wonder where are heading the real studio musicians in 5 years from now. Seems like if plugings are catching up the real instruments at a really fast way.
i saw ur tutorial on cakewalk..i had a doubt ....i want to record midi in cakewalk i have my piano ready but i dont have the sustain pedal so is there a way to add sustain effect on my piano recording??and one more question if i record piano as midi can i save it as midi file and an mp3 file also so that i may get an audio file ? i hope u reply soon
You can record sustain using the computer keyboard "TAB" key (named Hold) or the virtual onscreen keyboard using a mouse. Just activate it under "Views -- Virtual Controllers" and make sure Virtual Controller is an input on the track you want to add sustain onto and record. One click is pedal down and then you have to press it again for pedal up.
You can also add them manually if you wish (CC64) but it can take a long time to put them in exactly the right place unless it's a very short piece of music. www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=EditingMIDI.22.html
And yes you can export MIDI and audio from Cakewalk. Both options are available under "File -- Export".
could someone helo me with bad latnecy i have this programe but my latency is so bad
Your calculation of how many samples a conventional drum plug-in would require are way off - there’s no way any of them are using 128 discrete velocity layers (AD2 sounds like three or four to me, for example). However, the conceptual distinction between sample-based and modelled is valid.
The most stupid thing is they don't allow external midi library. Everything else so intuitive and flexible. When I thought I found the holigrail and came with a big oooff.
I'll wait for a price drop it's worth it tho 👍🏾😊👍🏾
I dont think the price will drop more. If you have purchased other IK multimedia software or hardware you can use your points to drop the price and buy a crossgrade. I got it dirt cheap.
@@jackfisher9833 thanks much appreciated for the information 👍🏾
By the way you are too late for the BIG price drop. It was on bottom for the xmass. Maybe next year.
@@jackfisher9833 How much was it on christmas?
@@viktorgus7522 I think it was like 50% drop. and i bought it as crossgrade on top of that discount so I got it dirt cheap. It feels almost like getting it for free.
the reverb is bothering me
When this came out I really wanted to like it, as I like most of what IKM do, but no, there's something about it that sounds plasticky and unrealistic. I guess it's interesting as a sound design tool, but for me it can't justify the price as it is now. I own Superior Drummer which covers all my drum needs, sounds absolutely amazing and has a great user interface.
Time to save my pennies so I can grab this plug in...
You cannot automate IK Multimedia plugins!
And... Never heard a single tom. Missed opportunity?
IST SOUND BAD....SORRY SMALL SOUND!!! AND OVERTONE.....EZ DRUMMER2 IS THE BEST PLUGIN--BIG SOUND!!!!!!
No where near the EZ Drummer unfortunately, this one is like so basic and can't create anything individually. If you watch EZ Drummer 2's video, you would be shocked... Be realistic and creative. We can't make songs just using these simple samples.
These don't sound very good. Sounds like an electronic drumkit from like 2004 lol