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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- The Umkhonto WeSizwe (MK) Party says deployees to parliament and legislature will not hold leadership positions in the party. This follows the announcement by former EFF Deputy President, Floyd Shivambu that he would be joining the MK Party last week.
Secretary General of MK Party, Sifiso Maseko says Shivambu will not be going to parliament
Shivambu is now the National Organiser of the party responsible for organising and developing of MKP organisational documents and guidelines, political education, policy and research, monitoring and evaluation of governance, particularly MKP caucuses.
Additionally, Political Analyst Moeletsi Mbeki says the ANC is a declining institution and the BEE policies have cost the party voters.
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I am an MkP supporter, but this SG its not making sure 🤞
🤣🤣🤣🤣 you are reading my mind ... Sitting here ngifun'ukukhala ("in terms of...") 🤣🤣🤣✌️
The SG is not bad bra. Uyazama give him a chance.
But the SG was supposed to be clear in terms of dual membership/s, MKP policies are still in construction/progress.
A leader should think very quick, he shouldn’t be noticed that he’s trying to think🤦♂️
He is like all MKP leaders, corrupt to the core. He was the acting CEO at Bara, chowed a lot of money, chowed workers overtime pay money, was eventually fired.
@@IBhubesi_LikaMasteshibut there are no policies you can’t blame this SG. He tried shame
Well done clement you grilled the poor mk guy.... Those moments were he paused still searching for n answer were astonishing 😅
So do those who live in rat infested kasis situation change if the SG is grilled.
he didnt ...white buttlicker
@@xnxo7237they should go to sofas where money is stashed in phalaphala
@@xnxo7237 have they changed since zuma was president for 9 years and is still trying to hold onto power now? this poor sg was trying hard to explain how zuma can have 2 memberships but no1 else can.. same zuma who didnt sort your rat infested kasis when he was president and had all the opportunity to do so, but instead chose to spend his time making deals with the guptas and co
This days Zuma never get sick, bring a court case against him he will be sick tomorrow
Yoooo ngabe wadlani eyakho umzonda kanje
😂😂😅
Heehee uzothi ngyagula😂😅usile lo Baba hai
EXACTLY,funny because his health is so smart to spark off when courts need him!
Hahahaha. He is very healthy.
Love u Clement, your journalism is excllent brother👌❤
😂😂😂 Clemet went straight for the jugular here. All the poor SG could afford to say was "in terms of."
Ukhuluma njengama leaders ama unions eloku ethi "in terms of" for me he's not make sure at all"intermsof "being a secretary general 😂😂😂siyoyicela ivuthiwe 🙈
@thandimasilela8947 😂😂😂😂 True, in terms of being a secretary general, he is not make sure. But may be it's the nerves coupled with inexperience, who knows.
@@sanelevv3285 so u want him to be another guy who lies for zuma? no, zuma must explain.. how can he be a member of mk and anc but nobody else can ?
In terms of politics, he is not fit for the role of a secretary. 😂
Floyd saying he didn’t betray the revolution as if Julius wasn’t like a brother to him. He owes him that much respect atleast.
Essentially this party does not have an accountability mechanism
Accountability? What about marikana n phalaphala?!
@@VictorShongwe-eh3sc so u agree that mk is a zuma stokvel
It is not even a year old give it time
It is not a party😂😂😂
@@sideshow22 A family business.
It’s called a dictatorship 🤣🤣🤣🤣 MK party’s constitution will be what Zuma says it is🤣
exactly.. he was president for 9 years, did fkall to improve lives..
One man show
He took the initiative when everyone doubted him, and now that the party is doing numbers, he much put other people in charge. He started a party with his vision, whoever joins support his vision. Example Flyod
@@ckoriablack so it's not a party, it's a zuma vision thing.. what zuma says go.. hire and fire as he pleases.. no unions or labor laws to support the members? Only zuma is allowed to run to courts and challenge nonsense things, yet stil never faced his criminal charges? Ok then
@@dilochetty9332 I was trying to make a sound argument with you but there's no point since you have conclusions
I think Nhlamulo should be brought back as a Spokesperson
Who's the spokesperson now?😊
Even Nhlamulo would have messed it up, in fact everyone in the MKP is a mess.
He was going to put this pappert to his place
@@mfunekonomvalo6 i think it might be still him. The SG cannot explains things. ZWANE WAS MUCH BETTER. Dr Maseko may get the party in trouble just but failing to explain concepts
The fact that they do not have a timeline in order to determine their structure is quite concerning.
Haaai this MKP Secretary General is not make sure. This one wont last in that position. Just make Jimmy Manyi or Nyiko Shivambu, this one isnt cut out for this job. Hehehehehe. He does not have answers for anything, Nhlamulo would have swept the floor with Madimetja, ka pela pela.
no, u cant explain zumas nonsense.. even immy cant.. even u cant.. can u be a member of mk and anc at the same time? no, so why can zuma.. its because his a dictator and most ppl in mk are afraid to say so..
You can,Zuma did that not to harm mkp,look he didn't even hide it,he was playing a political game to benefit the mkp,it doesn't mean that it is a police of the mkp,I don't think it was a difficult question for Mabasa to be proud of having asked,mkp unfortunately lacked a sharp mind from that graduate, actually Nhlamulo I believe he would have said for Zuma it's a different story bcs it's the way he strategically started the organisation ,why would someone else did it
@jamesntombela5553 zuma games are not helping the south african poor.. his games are for his own pleasure
No maan this guy is just saying a whole lot of nothing this SG
Cha mina ngeke 🤔🤔not make sure at all 😂😂😂
when zuma is your boss u not allowed to say anything..u can be shuffled tomorw
This guy is painful to listen to. SG must be articulate and knowledgeable of the organization’s policies.
ag shame, can u explain better? why is zuma allowed to have both memberships but u cannot?
I genuinely enjoy this show. Clement does not shy away from the core truth.
Secretary General is not make sure. He is not inspiring any confidence.
He is also under construction.Do not be so unfair to him.
Nx..
He'll gain experience over time.
how can he inspire confidence when the leader wants to be both an anc member an mk member, but no1 else is allowed..
The entire MKP is like him, this is Zuma standard.
They got this SG on sale by the flee market smh
Floyd Shivambu is been in the organisation for less than a month already he's organiser.
Was it an Organisation before Floyd, the organizer, came?
So uhlushwa yin because you are not a member of uMkhonto
Floyd Shibambu will do a great job and congratulations are in order for his new appointment
He won’t, he’s overrated. His work at EFF was cut and paste of the past ANCYL. He’s never came up with a new idea that we have never heard of before.
SG you need to pull up your socks this is Politic
lm from Kenya. l think floyd is currently sick.NEEDS TO SEEA DOCTOR. Runnning away from EEF is like running away from his shadow.
Maybe you drunk wena
Indeed Mr Malema was right. Mr Shivambu is fearful to speak his mind clearly. Why is he saying Some people say he betrayed them while it is MR MALEMA?
Your points are always stupid, are you always stupid or what?
This Doctor is not make sure, where’s this SG coming from 😢😮
"in terms of" "in terms of" "in terms of" "in terms of" "in terms of" "in terms of"
😂😂😂😂
The SG made rookie mistakes, you never answer questions you did not prepare to answer. A simple answer would be all we want is to change the country issues of card carrying membership etc are not really of major importance right now
This SG must get ready to exit after this interview😂
Bad move for Floyd, he chose the wrong party
24:47 Is when he thought about how his response would get him fired by "uBaba"...
Dual membership. Baba Zuma🤔🤔🤔🤔 Answer the question SG😅
he cannot and all the zuma nutsniffers will make up all sorts of excuses... the fact is, zuma thinks his special so he only can do as he pleases..
Floyd is going to regret imagine drawing proper structure only to be destroyed by representer called SG😢😢
Console your self
24:19 Clement absolutely destroyed the MK's SG!
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
No one is above the law as per our constitution. Those who owes money must pay back the money before they think of leading people or communities
If no one is above the law, why ciryl Ramaphosa is not being held accountable for killing the people of marikana and for Hiding foreign currency under his couch??😂😂😂😂😂
How do u account for marikana n phalaphala? Are those blessings?
@@VictorShongwe-eh3sc you said no one is above the law, so I wanted you to make me understand
And who owes you money wena msunu
@@sbusisomsane878 at least owami umsunu ngyawu geza, owakho unuka ishlama
Hhayi, SG is not make sure. Floyd must be made SG.
The people are not fools . Tainted leaders leading south Africa. No impact to the people. Not impressed . Let's wait and watch as the drama unfolds . 😂😂😂😂
I will never betray the revolution.that sentence alone can be elaborated in many angels.
Classic. It's a response without being rude to the now political opponent CIC. Floyd has Emotional Intelligence
You ask about people facing charges 😂. Zuma the party president is facing charges.
Factionalism & big egos shall destroy the MKP.😢😢
Let’s hope so 🤞
Hhaibo this guy must not be SG he is not making sure
Even the EFF was said to have done electorally well when it started. And COPE too. There is always a sharp upward turn on the curve and then its downhill thereafter,so the MK the way it shot up is the same way it will fall, and very soon
Leadership announced not elected, MK Party not democratic and it's unstable!!
The thesis of this doctor was based on the topic that says "IN TERMS OF'*
😂😂😂😂
Manyathela can you please give us news on what the government is doing with un employment, inequality, and poverty. Please stop focusing on MKP.
Go n tell your President phala phala Ramaphosa
Why
ask Mbalula or your GNU aunt Helen Zille
He's not focusing on mkp..mkp called press conference. Clement is ramping up the media coverage
@@giftbrown1732correct he is ramping up media coverage
There was a moment of silence in the dual membership issue😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I guess the SG wasn’t fully prepared at all, Clerment get exited when it’s something involving Pres Zuma, but he doesn’t do this nonsense when it’s gogo Helen!!!
Lucky montana
Siyabonga gama
B r i a n Molefe
@@IBhubesi_LikaMasteshi shame, u hav a bad case of whataboutism ..see a dr.. that sg is a dr
Floyd should have been the secretary general,I'm a proud Zulu who understands true leadership again Floyd for secretary general
As things going on it seems Jabulani was telling the truth about all the things he was talking about
MKP SG from Temu
Ngaze ngahleka 😂😂😂
This SG doesn’t convince me otherwise
So how will they adopt the constitution if they don't meet? Politics fuelled by Paranoia. Haai this Zuma party is not make sure.
I'll say it once more, especially to these "analysts", never underestimate Jacob Zuma. He's always 10 steps ahead and prepared for every eventuality. He knows the ground, a true combatant.
That's not always the case
@@RossGinisebut it have proven to be always the case
Yes - I can tell from all the governments he leads. MK did well for a start up, but has no power including in its core province.
Well said Msholozi is way ahead even before he was still great for us yet pressure mounted media propaganda and us south african started following media Mkp is the best
who cares about zuma chess game.. does it provide jobs?? cheaper petrol? etc?
I'm an MK party supporter bt I'm not happy the way the SG respond to the dual membership question
how would u respond?
Nlhamulo the SG,, really really "i"ts not make sure" this one. He's not gona last this one its the matter of time. :0)
Haibo! SG did not see the question of dual membership coming
Is Dr Sfiso a tradional healer Dr, a Ph.D or a M.D? He just wasted our precious 27 minutes. The guy cannot even eloquently express himself, let alone the party. Such an incoherent representative of the 3rd largest party. You cannot afford to be seen that you're thinking with your eyes running around like a Grade 4 learner who's guilty of shoplifting some sweets. Zuma said he's the 5th in 8 months. I see the 6th in no time. Truly, MK is a family stokvel. I'm sure there are better people than him, especially the fired MP who gave a media briefing.
Khehlelezi is also a Dr.
By just one question now he must be flashed
MK should not copy the ways that killed ANC, in 2026 we are voting with our neighbors
We only want those who grows our economy by creating jobs and not progressive forces
MK and Floyd are clownish nyana nou lol...#confused
Inside the house, he's wearing a cap
Ujwayele ukdelela the is nothing new ngaye
I agree with politics Annalise pure sense. ANC can provide for its people ANC will stay
How can ANC fail to provide when money id stashed in sofas in phalaphala
The MK SG is bad. Brother can't even articulate himself.. I actually heard him when he read the speech of the president during the press conference
Honestly, there are republicans that in the last 24hrs endorsed Kamala, so don't put the SG in the corner over a constitution that is in construction, which makes sense to bring in Floyd. In the same breath, this gentleman should also be clear in his thinking and resolve, and simply say; "ultimately we want our members to be single party members, we are a party in transition". But for the better part, WELL DONE Dr. Maseko
what corner.. zuma can be a member of anc and mk, why cant other do the same? its a simple questions and Clement exposed zumas hypocrisy
Don't compare USA politics with Zuma banana party.
@Tinker8531 well zuma and trump use the same political strategy..
Where have you you seen a country that has 54 percent of its population on social welfare ....The ANC was given 30 years to improve the material conditions of Black People....And They Have Failed. 30 WASTED YEARS.
The Mbeki surname has been diluted by arrogance..
Ndlela now you are a grown mind
the word "RULE" does not apply in a democracy, only in a monarch or dictatorship. In a democracy we GOVERN.
You have not answered the dual membership question.
Dom dom dom dom SG yoh! Looooool
Eish, this one, baba is going to fire him😂😂
Because it's yes and no answer from the guy. Let's see if Julius Malema will agree to work together if they have same ideology. Who will betray who this time and who' s fooling who?
I don't think he's going to work with them 😂😂
I will continue to pray for Nxamalala , The National Command and all our leaders who are Truly Representing our people in Parliament and we don't need an Elective Conference now and we don't want to have AGENT PROVOCATEUR who will be Bought with an aim of derailing the Gains that are already made....The new Leaders which Msholozi has announced are Fine ..our Focus is to build the movement in every CHURCH, every Mallb, every University, every Tavern,every School, every University, every Court , every street , every household , every Train , every bus , every aTaxi rank , every hospital, every police station , every military barrack , every soccer game , every mannequin parade , every she been ,every He been , every School , every musical festival ,every movie house and EVERY PLACE where every person who has breath is found . I am a Pastor , an Evangelist , a Prophet, a Teacher , an Evangelist, an Apostle and a proud member of MK , s volunteer and a ground force of this progressive pro black and pro worker party....l have DECIDED to leave long ago The Sick Man Of South Africa which is the ANC.....
build the movement? why dont u go help the poor instead of helping zuma family scheme
Ay the center is not holding here😂😂😂🤞
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣the SG failed to tackle the issue of dual membership...lol. ZUMA is ANC/MK member, can u allow your members to do that??
EFF was caught sleeping. I thought Malema and EFF intelligence could had seen this coming and alerted the leadership.
Imagine being addressed by a traitor as a MKP members. If he was not faithful to the party he co-foundered then make you feel and think he will be faithful to MKP?
It is revolutionary was Zuma and his ANC faction
My thoughts exactly. I would never trust such a person 🚮
He could be faithful,dealing with branches is not something that he will be doing alone,so how can he not be faithful,siyaybongela imkp ngoSibambo ithole isqongqwane lapha kuFloyd ,empeleni yonke le team!
The problem of the MKP is Jacob Zuma himself. Because of his obsession with intelligence, he akways thinks some in the high podituons are spies & he chops & change those leaders.
SG wasibulala wasibukiswa gezwe,
Secretary General of MK Party, said they traveled around the country but ultimately decided among themselves that created the manifesto who would be leaders. Secretary General of MK Party confirmed that they do not wish to govern but want to RULE South Africa. As a South African, I do not want to be ruled, I want to be served by my government. Secretary General of MK Party, was with the ANC but did not believe in the ANC but found that a Party less than 1 year old held his ideology.
very well said.. zuma wants to rule people.. a dictator .. he is currently ruling all these member of mk.. fires and hires as he pleases.. but when its done to him, he uses his money to run to all courts to challenge everything..
NO,NO,NO Secretary shem cha!!! The Look nje engakhulumanga ayiniki amandla. HHAYI KE meaethi uvula umlomo..... yiiih. Purely cadre deployed. No credentials la. 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😩😩😩😭😭😭🙈🙈
What does the law says about the remuneration of the former president who is still active politically?
FLOYD JOINING A PARTY led by ZUMA Is the greatest blunder. Zuma symbolizes CORRUPTION .But lm happy that Malema told him lf he feels to come back to EFF he will be received by open arms
Nah this guy just loves MKP.....😂😂😂😂the SG is not make sure madoda
Eish...who counted "interms of"
😂😂😂
Jacob Zuma says he will always be a member of the ANC from a historical standpoint
From DP to organizer? This is insult to Floyd
Forward MK Forward and let those who don't understand politics continue with their unfounded critics
I wish you had asked him " what must be done different across all political parties",
is very easy to point out errors than bringing up solutions 😒
So on that day you go to conference even if is after 5 years they won't buy votes?😢😢 Your excuse is nonsense
True leadership ❤❤
hahaha.. he couldnt even explain how zuma can be a member of both anc and mk by others cannot.. its a joke..
@@dilochetty9332 That Zuma ANC membership in my opinion was just intentionally left hanging just to spite the ANC. It cannot really be practical and does not make any sense.
@nkanyisontuli714 true, we all think the same.. so I think other members must also be allowed to do same
bunch of looters.
I think yes or no 😢😅😅😅😅😅
Loool this mk thing I'll wait to see where is going because this thing is like to break up with your partner and after a while you back to relationship again and that will never be the same again so i see a disaster here ,just watch and please CZcams keep my message for the future to see
This is the Animal Farm
Hahaha this is the SG of that Pyramid Scheme
😂😂😂😂😂😂
👏👏😂😂😂
Chest pain went straight to Phalaphala
This one they must just make him a driver SG 🙈🙉🙊👀
Clement, we are out of idea's. Rampant unemployment, extortionists everywhere, energy crisis, water crisis, chief, if MK has new idea's, we are open to them cause as it stands, we are in trouble!
What happened to the 8 and half years he was the head of the highest office of the country. You guys only see now that you’re in trouble Really!!
@@Linds-qh6qs What do yo mean? the ANC has been in power since 1994... You make it seem like Zuma is the problem here... Ramaphosa was SG of the ANC in 1994... 1910-1948 segregation was institutionalised, 1948-1994, Apartheid was legislated, we are the most unequal society in the world, did Zuma do all that? We are in trouble because we have not addressed the elephant in the room, separate and unequal development!
How do you take views of the people &how do you choose leaders
I see Floyd's watch is still with the EFF....Time will tell....
Chest pain
😂😂😂
Why are you like this thou 🤭🤭
The silence was very loud
The importance of understanding and be fluent in queen's language... reading is vital SG
Eyiii this guy - what does the interrim constitution say about dual membership? If it's quiet on the issue you just say it is up for discussion as we are in the process of reviewing the constitution.
DR"S MENTAL ARTICULATION CAPACITY DOESN'T MATCH HIS POSITION OF DOCTORATE 😂
These are suppose to be times of the Unity of African people without which the socio economic and political freedoms will not be fully achieved and enjoyed by all, particularly the most despised of all races, the black africans. We continue to pray for the Unity of African people
This is zuma zulu party floyd ll regret soon
The DA need to challenging ANC .
I am a big Moeletsi Mbeki fan. His sarcasm is hilarious.