Dr Ralph Wilde Webinar: How Britain broke international law to stop Palestinian independence
Vložit
- čas přidán 27. 09. 2023
- The 29th of September marks the centenary of when the League of Nations ‘Mandate Agreement’ for Palestine entered into force in international law. This legal instrument purported to put the commitment to establishing a Jewish homeland in Palestine made by Arthur Balfour in the eponymous Declaration of 1917-then merely a non-legally-effective statement-on a sound international legal footing. It paved the way for how the UK administered the Mandate. The Agreement purported to bypass the legal obligation in Article 22 of the League Covenant to provisionally recognize statehood of and for the inhabitants of the Mandate-people who were overwhelmingly Arab Palestinians-at the time the Mandate commenced. And it purported to permit the UK to maintain its administration, for what turned out to be a quarter of a century, so as to enable Jewish migration to, and Jewish institutions of self-government to be established in, what could then be proclaimed the state of Israel, as happened, covering part of the territory of the Mandate, in 1948. In international law, then, the key date for the supposed legal basis for all that happened in that period is 1923, not 1917.
On the eve of the centennial anniversary of that date, this lecture will present a new argument, challenging the received wisdom about the legal effectiveness of the Mandate Agreement. For the first time it will be explained that the body adopting the Agreement-the League Council-did not have the legal power to modify the obligations in the League Covenant, and, as such, the requirement to implement provisional statehood in Article 22 remained the operative legal obligation binding on the UK. Consequently, by failing to enable Palestinian statehood a century ago, the UK breached international law, and this can form the basis for a claim for reparations by the Palestinian people today.
The lecture is based on Dr Wilde’s article published in the Journal of the History of International Law, ‘Tears of the Olive Trees: Mandatory Palestine, the UK, and accountability for colonialism in international law’.
Ralph Wilde is a member of the Faculty of Laws at UCL, University of London. He is an expert in international law. His current writing focuses on extraterritorial human rights, migration and refugee protection, and international law and the Palestinian people. His previous work on the concept of trusteeship over people and territorial administration by international organizations includes his book International Territorial Administration: How Trusteeship and the Civilizing Mission Never Went Away(OUP), awarded the Certificate of Merit of the American Society of International Law. He previously served on the Executive bodies of the American and European Societies of International Law, and the International Law Association, and is the past recipient of the UK Philip Leverhulme Prize and the Peace Fellowship of the Åland Peace Institute. He also provides legal advice and representation to states, international organizations, and NGOs, and is currently acting as Senior Counsel and Advocate representing the 22 states of the League of Arab States in the Legal Consequences arising from the Policies and Practices of Israel in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem Advisory Opinion case before the UN International Court of Justice.
The speech that you gave at the ICJ, was probably the most important and articulately delivered speech that has been given, on ANY subject, so far this century!
Well done, sir!
Balfour is an ANTISEMITIC channel!
Israel Belongs to the JEWS!!
Enough, hater.
BIGOTS are not welcome here.
Go away hater. Bigots are not welcome here.
GO Bibi!
Jews Rock!
@@AnitaNiniel You know, Bigot. Your anti-Semitism has to STOP!!!
@@AnitaNiniel Reported for supporting terrorism.
Dr Ralph Wilde, your name will it only be in history books for you gallant presentation at the ICJ hearing,
It is imprinted in my heart and memory till I die, you have gave defenceless children and their nation a voice their humanity, dignity inalienable right to exist as Palestinian.
As an Armenian Palestinian my family has endured massacre twice and displaced 3 times
You shall always be in my prayers thank you from the bottom of my heart
@ tahalaperigo9771 Dearest Palestinian Human Person of Value and Dignity, for you and your abused and mistreated relatives and brethren, you have my deepest condolences and empathy. As I heard Dr. Wilde's presentation of February 24th., I experienced two distinct emotions. First I felt vindicated that my heart and my intuition were correct - the Balfour Declaration is an invalid piece of RUBBISH with ZERO VALIDITY at International Law!! Second, I was once again angered and dismayed that The United Kingdom and the U.S.A. both diabolically participated in this COLONIAL GENOCIDAL "LAND GRAB" at the great expense of the lives of many hundreds of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women, teenagers, toddlers, and infants. I feel embarrassed concerning our home grown corrupted politicians who stuff their pockets with "legal bribe money."
Go away, anti-Semites. You are not welcome here.
Reported for anti-Semitism.
Note : A screen shot of this thread has been recorded and is being forwarded to the US Congress as evidence of Antisemitic behavior on You Tube.
Dr Ralph Wilde, your name will not only be in history books for you gallant presentation at the ICJ hearing,
It is imprinted in my heart and memory till I die, you gave defenceless children and their nation a voice their humanity, dignity inalienable right to exist as Palestinian.
As an Armenian Palestinian my family has endured massacre twice and displaced 3 times
You shall always be in my prayers thank you from the bottom of my heart
Reported for Promoting Terrorism.
Note : A screen shot of this thread has been recorded and is being forwarded to the US Congress as evidence of Antisemitic behavior on You Tube.
Dr. Wilde has made a brilliant case before the IJC that will certainly go down in history as one of the most relevant arguments before the Court.
Reported for anti-Semitism.
I had to look up who the person was giving an amazing oratory recollection at the ICJ. Absolutely amazing. Much respect, Wilde absolutely commanded the most powerful room in the world.
Reported for supporting terrorists.
Incredible work Mr Wilde, thank you
Reported for supporting terrorism.
Kudos and Thank you, Dr. Wilde.
From new york , you are the
Light that shines in a dark time
Thank you for you brilliant work for humanity!
Thank you, Dr. Wilde, for providing your professional analysis on this issue.
Valuable information, very well presented by a very well studied gentleman.
Yeah, your ICJ presentation was the most brilliant piece of all other presentations.
Excellent presentation at the ICJ recently on the legality of Israel's occupation of Palestinian territory.
Great presentation at the ICJ. Congratulations.
After your awesome presentation at the ICJ, it does my heart so much good to see that you are still, on your own, invested in achieving justice for Palestinians. I know you are not alone and I am so grateful for all of you. Keep up the good work, you give us hope.
Thank you very, very much.
Thank you professor Wilde. Excellent speech at the ICJ.
Thank you sir you are hero 🙏
I can't describe in words how much i appreciate you .. thank you
Thank you!!!
Well done Sir
Brilliant. Blaringly brilliant and resoundingly timely. If you can put those things together. Bravo.
Thank you Thank you Excellent information
👌for this and ❤for your presentation at the recent ICJ hearing.
Excellent talk. Thank you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you... 😭 this is the most ardent uncompromising unpacking of the colonialist essence of “Zionism”. You literally dug the root.
Thank you for your explanation, this world IS unfair
Thanks for your clarity. I first heard you at Al-Al-Haq and am impressed again. Thanks BP too!
Thank you Dr Wilde❤
Truth & Reconciliation required. With reparations, including a thorough reform of all aspects of equality in Palestine/Israel. Government, economy, Law, health, education, housing, public square, infrastructures - social, political as well as physical.
Thankyou very much Dr Wilde for this important Palestinian issue which has been neglected by the supposed Great Britain whom we trust as a 'principled' country
Excellent, very informative discussion. Since UK’s actions are the primary causes of the dilemma, perhaps reparations could include moving the State of Israel to the UK and giving the Palestinians back their stolen land.
...or move the state of Israel to ALASKA! Nice climate for them!
@@myblighters
...or move the state of Israel to the South Pole, Antarctica! Nice climate for them!
Dr. Wilde, your recent presentation at the ICJ was simply brilliant. I had a good grasp of the political nature of the matter and his argument helped to crystallise the legal context of not just the occupation, but also the legality of the process leading up to the establishment of the state of Israel.
The only clarity I need in respect of your presentation to the ICJ this year (2024) is whether the UN’s ignoring the provisions of the League Covenant by recognising Israel nullified or amended the Covenant. If not, on what basis in law (customary or established law) is the UN’s decision not lawful?
Once again, this was the best argument I’ve heard in many decades of following this struggle of the Palestinian people.
You're a fantastic human being! Thank you for such wonderful education, here and at the ICJ. I really appreciate you, Dr. Wilde! 💖
Dr Wilde your speech at the ICJ on behalve of the Arab League was one for the ages. We the people owe you a great debt of gratitude. It was concise, expert, minimalistic and delivered with supreme clarity and devastating understatement. In short, utterly delicious!
You made a complicated, mazey subject matter seem easy. But it isn't. It is all down to your brilliance. And you are to be commended for it!
Yes,
Thank you so much for this, Dr. Wilde! Is your lucid analysis available anywhere as a paper? This is not my area of the law, and I want to get my mind around it.
Thank you Dr Ralph Wilde. You brought clarity to a foggy issue! I do hope 3rd party states invoke the International Court of Justice to act not just on the 'Leahy Law' violations, but also on the violation of 'The right of Self Determination'!
Thankyou so much for you scholarly address of such a complexed issue and your example of 3rd state!
I am a layperson in these matters you have presented a most excellent outline and framework for us all to come to terms with 🙏🏽💯😊
A brilliant comment from 'Professor' Dr. Ralph Wilde.
We are all living Sovereign Beings
Abundance is for all living things ❤❤❤
Earth is our home
We Honour all life ❤❤❤
Tears of the Olive Trees.
God bless you from Somalia 🇸🇴 🙏🏿
Bravo Dr. Wilde 👏👏👏
Compulsory expropriation of Palestinian lands is illegal
The UK has a lot to answer for.
Would the colonisers go home?
What homes. From Russian Empire in the 1880's who worked in swamps? From Concentration camps...you know, those colonisers survivors?
From all the Arab countries that expelled them and kept all their assets after the United Nations vote to establish the state of Israel. (Their descendents comprise 60% of the population and they didn't colonise anybody)
What homes exactly are you referring to?
Sounds like the language of a child's playground
@@jazura2 What silliness you speak! That was THEN. This is NOW. Jews live in equal peace as all other citizens in countries all over the world these days. If the State of Israel is dissolved, they can go anywhere they please.
@@jazura2Morocco never expelled her Jewish citizens. You are brainwashed by the Za yo propaganda machine.
@@jazura2You have been influenced by the Z y0 nist propaganda machine. Morocco never expelled its Je wish citizens, in fact there are still Je wish people living there.
Morocco is one of the countries with the largest Jew ish population and even of the oldest (2000 years) Jews and the Native Berbers always have lived side by side. There us no hostility towards Je wish (Moroccans) like what we see in Eastern Europe or during WWII. For example, during World War II, Moroccan King Muhammad V famously refused to hand over Moroccan J e ws to the Vichy regime, showcasing his protection and solidarity towards the Moroccan Jewish population.. in Morocco. Moroccan j ws never forgot Till this day i srawli of Moroccan descend still celebrate their heritage and Moroccan culture. Not only that they still have moroccan citizenship because Morocco does not allow Moroccans to let go of their nationality
@@jazura2 You might want to study Prof Avi Shlaim's work. Majority Muslim Arab states did not expel their Jewish citizens until the new state of Israel forced them to do so because it wanted its own Jewish population to significantly outnumber the indigenous population of Palestine - Muslims, Christians, Druze, Jews etc. And those Arab Jewish communities were just fine where they were and had been for centuries, so they weren't going to move country of their own volition. Hence the Zionist Israeli colonisers upped their violent ante in the early 1950s until the Arab Jews you refer to had no other choice than to join them. Once in Israel, these Mizrahi Jews were treated as second-class citizens for being Arab. Still are mostly.
Powerful speech at the ICJ. ⚘️
The current mainstream dehumanizing forms and parameters of the collective accepted belief systems in the academic and political world, which further direct the consortium of world organizations, profoundly impact human and planetary affairs. Let’s allow your speech as a stepping stone to be the result of planetary Expanding Consciousness, where potential dialogues around such conflict and any conflict, can begin to be fruitful.
Thank you! ❤🌍⚘️
Reparations for all Jizya to be paid.
Brilliant and righteous Dr Ralph Wilde
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Wow. Brilliant. Is there any hope despite this legal situation, for Palestine, using this?
At the hearing when the chair of the ICJ asked Dr Ralph Wilde to make his presentation, I noted he referred to Mr Ralph Wilde which I thought discourteous. Was I wrong to think so ?
Any parallels or precedents to be drawn from this case? -> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crichel_Down_affair
Palestine wasn’t a thing until Hadrian created the term in 135AD
Irrelevant
Many of the worlds problems have there roots in Britain and the U.S.
Derived from Islamic legal conceptions of membership to society, non-Muslims 'dhimmis' were afforded protection by the state and did not serve in the military, in return for specific taxe
In terms of Ethiopia and Liberia intervening in the SWA / Namibia matter, would their interest not have resided in their proprietorship / membership of the League of Nations and their obligations arising from their membership, or would this be a misplaced line of argument? Is there ICJ case law where this principle has since been explicitly affirmed?
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
from the river to the sea'' Palestien has and does own the land.........................
15:26 This is effectively a sui generous model
15:33 of self-determination. It's not the same as the immediate right to Independence which became the right
15:40 in international law applicable to people in all Colonial territories in
15:46 the second half of the 20th century and so applicable to the Palestinian people in the West Bank and Gaza now
15:54 but it's close to it *through the requirement that independent statehood is the clear objective* and
16:01 moreover that this should be provisionally recognized the people in A-Class mandates were
16:09 effectively placed in a privileged category compared to the people of all other colonies including other classes
16:17 of mandate as far as their entitlement to self-rule in general international
16:22 law was concerned
If you will recognize the rights of all these people to self-determination then of course it must apply to all peoples there indiscriminately. It doesn't say anywhere that a single state must be established somewhere. In fact there were multiple mandates and different countries founded from them at different places.
If you are going to recognize the right to self-determination then it must also include the possibility for a peaceful and dignified coexistence for all these people.
But even when the first small national home for the Jewish people was introduced, immediately a military conflict broke out. The UK had the mandate to administer mandatory Palestine, did so, but were violated not by the Jews but by the Arabs. There was nothing dishonorable done by the UK or illegitimate, the dishonor lies with the slave-trading done by the Arabs until about the 1960's and their oppressiveness. It's been the Arabs all along.
....And Balfour became extremely wealthy!
algo
The underlying element in the radical Islamist worldview is ahistoric and dichotomist: Perfection lies in the ways of the Prophet and the events of his time; therefore, religious innovations, philosophical relativism, and intellec- tual or political pluralism are anathema.
So a very, very rich Jewish guy used his money to sway the British government. And that is how money always trumps justice in human history.
a Palestinian state was established which now is called Jordan.
Funny how the Palestinians and Jordanians don’t think so, nor the overwhelming majority of the world’s other countries. Must be their logic at fault and not yours, right?
Free hostages
In 1919, Musa Kazim Al-Husseini, the head of the Jerusalem Town Council stated, “We demand no separation from Syria.”
I think hes missing alot of things out here, no offence to his work i mean his missed alot of legal facts out. Seriously im not looking to discredit him more broadening his horizon of legal jurisdiction.🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸💯
And I think a 2hr sit down with him , will do him a world of good 😊 in regards to legal knowledge passed to him will awaken him completely 🇵🇸🇵🇸💯
And I'm fully competent in imperial law , declarations treaty matters and so on, how much well while south Africa started its ICJ , I was before them in Nuremberg in October, we had already foreseen the ICJ preliminary, and that's all it is nothing more.
And we started in may 2023 on the state Palestinian matters
If he reads this post , I look forward to his response the codification in this post is evident
Its way easier than explaining an hour!
There was a legitimate successor state on the ground of ottoman palestine. The arab kingdom of syria. France and Britain smashed that kingdom to rule over the region. Thats the first.
Second they put a mandate over palestine. But what does mandate mean?
The term mandate in international law in the broader sense refers to the order given to a state or confederation of states to represent the state and international law interests of a specific foreign territory.
So the britains either had no mandate, because what they did was not in the interests of that specific territory or they misused their mandate over palestine. And both needs to be reparated
Israel is here to stay, try to remove us from this land and see what happens!!
I prefer your unreasoning obstinacy to mendacious Zionist claims of right
Vous mettez de l’avant certains faits et en oubliez d’autres.
So all Palestinians had to do was raise this and Palestine was theirs ? Unstoppable by law. Interesting to understand why they didn't. And if they didn't , who is liable for that ?
That's just it. The Palestinians did understand the legal position. There was simply no forum to take their cause, or advocate to express it so ably as Dr Wilde. The other problem was the British guns trained upon them if they did take their legal rights into their own hands...
@@johnnyhoops3991 . there is a forum that gave you those rights. No advocate like Dr Wilde in a hundred years. Just to read the full 100 pages max ? really? well you can't claim to have all the rights for you to pick up and end up with absolutely nothing 100 years later all while having your own refugee agency and the world funding your, and an ICJ in place for decades. If they knew they had the law on their side, they should never have started the string of wars... apparently there was always a despot able to convince them to throw themselves under the bus.
Britain was given a mandate and refused to create a Palestinian state noting that until 1960 Jews were called Palestinians including in the British army in the Jewish brigade and Arabs were called arabs
Palpable racism right from the start!
@@myblighters the Arab revolts of 1929 and 1936 were based on dar el Islam ie no non Islamic rule on past Islamic rule land local Arabs objected to British rule rejected the concept of Palestine or naming them Palestinian and wanted caliphate or local Arab rule only the Jews accepted the Palestinian mandate under Britain until the gates were closed to those fleeing the Nazis
The same motivation as today
Fron 1918 to 1919, a group called The Arab Club chanted “From Turkey to Gaza, Palestine Does Not Exist!”
ZIONIST ZOMBIE! ...as expected full of lies lies lies!
If the Jews saw that Isreal was their ancestral home, then it’s down to the Jews to take responsibility, before the Second World War, Germany sent load’s of Jews to palatine too! As the Jews have always maintained that is their ancestral home! Therefore Balfour agreement or not, the Jews have to take responsibility!!! Using modern values on the past is highly dubious at best!!!
We can’t lump Jews into one bloc. Not all Jews are Zionists, not all Zionists are Jews.
The UK government should have made reparations in the original case. The fact that they have avoided this duty is down to the UK government. The longer they leave it, the worse it will get.
Please, get serious. Here we have a Melanin people migrating to Northern Europe's colder climes, losing their melanin returning to Palestine as Zionist making all manner of bogus claims of inherent right to lands they first set foot when forced from Egypt where the ancestors of Palestinians (named by the Romans) had inhabited since crossing onto the lands of Africa. These were black people, the original, and not to be disputed. Zionist can take their argument and shove it.
Indeed and using the analogy of 'actions speak louder than words' we see that besides allowing greater Jewish immigration in the 20's and 30's Britain did nothing itself to facilitate the Jewish state's creation while at the same time it clashed with Zionist forces in its roll as protector of non-jewish people
Still unlawful and inhumane.
Dream on, the ICJ are knocking at the door😂
Remember that this Crap you put up with was done by both sides
Deliberately and knowingly done
Overbearing overreaching Barbarism
Zero Tolerance to Barberism
It’s none negotiable ❤
This man is actually arguing for imperialism because the Jewish people are the indigenous people of Israel. They were there when the Pharaohs ruled ancient Egypt and they remained there and in the wider middle east during the past 3000 years. The Romans invaded and took their lands into the Roman empire, they even invented the name "Palestine" and it remained part of a succession of empires all the way through history to the British empire who then returned it to the Jewish people. Islam began 2000 years after the first record of the Jews. There was never, ever an independent Muslim Palestine but now this man is trying to use "law" as a way of forcing the people of Israel to surrender their land. He would be better asking international law to investigate the fate of non-Muslim communities in Muslim counties like Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc, etc.
So the Zionists who came from thousands of miles away and had no ancestors born in Palestine for 1800 years were indigenous but the people living in the country at the time it was “liberated” from the Ottomans and whose ancestors had lived there for untold generations were not indigenous 😂
Congratulations Mr. Wilde for your manipulation of history trying to separate Jews from their rightful land. Whenever you say the word 'Palestinian' you are unknowingly referring to Jews, especially around the time of the Balfour Declaration. The people who refer to themselves today as "Palestinians" did not refer to themselves as "Palestinians at that time. You would do better entering a Pee-wee Herman look-alike contest.
Utter crap
It's the settled vs. settlers, where the settled has become un-settled and carried out Oct 7th to settle the score.
We are all living Sovereign Beings
Abundance is for all living things ❤❤❤
Earth is our home
We Honour all life ❤❤❤
" but trailing clouds of glory do we come from God, who is our home "