Studio monitor upgrade! | Switching it up (part one)
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What monitors do you prefer and why?
My HS7s are doing me an absolute pleasure at the moment!
You should also try the Neumanns I reckon 🤔
I had KSDigital C88, Abacus cbox4, Neumann KH310 and now the KH120 - Heard nearly all Genelec Products, ATC scm40 (DIY Active Version - favorite of all Systems i heard in my life), some Adams and other Brands. KH120 (also 310) are after all these years of listening, my choice in my room. Specially for that Price. Maybe Amphions, Barefoots F01 or Unity Audios Rocks are little better because theyre sealed but there is no chance to listen to them at home without a big effort & shipping costs. So i def. stick with Neumann for a while because i realy like them
I have some Kali LP-8’s and they’ve honestly been treating me pretty well
i recently switched from NS10s as my primary to a pair of Output's Frontiers. I love them. they are just so pleasant to listen to and are the first pair of monitors i can fully trust, and the first thing i mixed on them was the first thing i didn't have to keep falling back to headphones to hear the low end.
Great to see you shout out Colt. I've been following his channel since he had under 2000 subs, and his knowledge and vibe have been inspiring to watch. His videos are quality information for anyone working in the pro-sound industry. Great monitor choice. Enjoy!
I just got a pair of the Focal Trio 6's about a month ago. Absolutely love them! I also have Genelec 1030A's and PMC IB1's...both are fantastic. But there is something about the Focal's that takes the listening experience to another level. Along with my Grace m905, it's just a killer experience. I am using a sub from a different manufacture but the Focal sub is on my hit list. You're gonna love them!
Well done video! Loved watching it. Can't wait for Part II :)
Coming soon!
Yeah those things are massive!
Pmc !! They rule
Great feedback, love the honesty!
Very convincing for sure.
Where’s the part 2 ???
You should also try the Neumanns I reckon 🤔
Love my kh310s with the 750sub
Thanks for the review! I have the Trio 6B’s , great choice! .Although the 6B’s are slightly smaller then the 11’s, the low frequency is profound and I haven’t needed a Sub . I have not had any issue with Eq and gain staging Kick and Bass. They sound the same as the 11’s with slightly less bass. I wish you the best with your investment.
I've had my Focal Trio 6's for a couple years now after getting off the Neuman's. I love um, but bass is a lot lighter than you'd expect for an enclosure that big. It's the midrange that's addictive. Just like any monitors. Once you get used to them and learn them, you can put out some incredible mixes.
I just got the Barefoot footprint 02 (I have a pretty small room) and they're amazing! I also recommend the Mackie CRX series if you are on a budget tho! I've also been at studios with the Trio 6 and they're incredible too. I would say actually really comparable, but ever so slightly better than the barefoots. And at the studio I work from we have crazy expensive Genelecs, but they are insane
nice shoutout! mister capperune's channel is another fave of mine! there's just something about learning from guys that are both about their business and about a good time.
Congrats! :) I’m thinking... Knowing your room, and having tested in pro studios with my own Adam A7 vs Trio6 (and more), you’re going to love the Trio6 as well!Consider at the Trio6 range you might not need to introduce a sub unless you absolutely must. Are you sure this is the best route to take for the room you’re in now? You did mention moving spaces. I know folks get used to their sub sometimes to their unrealized detriment, but the crossover is only going to make whatever room correction software you’re using likely work that much harder because the Trio6 cover so much of the sub range really well already. Could be more trouble than not. And subs are SO expensive. I hope you might try the Trio6 without a sub first and mic measure the room with REQ Wizard to know for sure. And of course placement has so much to do with it as you know to avoid nulls and SBIR.
The Trio6 have such good clean and especially tight and focused low end in the sub range, which is going to be very different than the A7 satellite / sub combo.
Anyhow, just a thought. You do you of course! :) PS. Have you come across Jesco from Acoustics Insider? He’s got some great content with regard to this stuff, too. I still remember you building your room, feels like yesterday. I’m excited by your excitement! It’s an incredible sound.
I talk too much. Cheers!
Can you go into some more detail about why you ruled out the Adam S-Line??
I have the Trio's as well and for the money they are great but after hearing ATC's - Yeah! Way more expensive I know - they are now my absolute dream speakers.
Great video, what are you doing with your previous monitors?
i got three options - a) Genelec 8351b b) Neumann Kh310 With Sub 750 c) Adam S3H
Used Every pair for a month in my studio and finally got Neumann Configuration for my studio 😀
Yeah the trio 6s will fit your room better. I had the solo 6s and sub6 and they were great. I’ll be selling them soon since I just upgraded.
They are huge also adore nice
Presently using KRK Rokit 8", I have used Mackie 824, NS10, JBL 6". Prefer the Mackie for the midrange but I'd like to try those HEDD three-ways or those Presonus point-source joints. What you think about point source monitors?
The Neumann KH310s with the new KH750 DSP sub is a must try! My room is smaller than yours and the MA-1 room correction has the edge on Sonarworks. The monitors are are sealed and have the tightest bass... let's just say I've had both Adams and Focals in this room ;-)
Been planning on trying out an experiment in which I´d build a small size full freq. range system built into either side of the wall behind the studio desk - complete with crossovers and dedicated amps pr. monitor sets with maybe downsized subs - 8"ers instead of 15-18"ers,- a sort of home studio equivalent of the big full freq. range monitor systems found in large commercial facilities,- all logic tells me it´s doable.
Outside of that my absolute favorite monitor system for near field monitoring would be the Andy Munro The Egg combined monitors/amp system,- specifically developed for that exact purpose and very unforgiving,- they have been tailored to give you the sonic thruth - without any form of flattery,- which means they can also from time to time be a humbling experience when listening back to your recordings and mixes,- along the lines of:"... This doesn´t sound all that good... unbalanced... and unevenly recorded.....I´m no better than that?"
And that´s just listening back to the unproccesed recordings and initial mixes.
If you can get over - and past yourself,- they will quickly become your new best friends.
Awesome system.
Hey! Love the channel! I recently purchased these same speaker stands and I was wondering if you put sand in yours. If so, did it make a big difference? Thanks!
Use lead shot instead
Focal solo 6be w/ a 10" sub for 7yrs, but waiting on a pair of Barefoot Footprint 01s to arrive next week (finally!) that were ordered back in February! The supply chain disruptions are definitely a thing.
Broo.... I'm literally Having the Same Speaker Dilemma. And I'm thinking of reaching for the Trio 6's !
Try the HEDD type-20 too, before you make trio6 decision. I don't think you need a sub with it.
FYI Focal recommends placing the tweeters on the inside and not outside !
A general comment (not intended specifically for this video or you) .
First thing you need is a seperate AD converter and a separate DA converter. ( The ones in UA are good but not as good as having it seperate). Great cables and then great monitors in my humble opinion! Having 5k monitors on a 2 k interface makes no sense to me... Peace ☮️
That makes sense. Fun fact the x16 I use is $4,500 and has an upgraded ad/da from the rest of the apollo x line up. I'm certainly under no illusion I have the best anything, but damn is it awesome.
Ad/da conversion is extremely overlooked in the “CZcams” community as a whole! I come from a Home Audio background translating to Pro. It’s crazy what the home crowd obsess over and disregard as well as the pro. Both have good reasoning. What blows my mind is the staunch refusal to take cues from either side to put into use on the other!
Lol I knew u we’re gonna switch when I saw your post “hmmmm” LMFAO
Oh man… I feel like I watch too much CZcams!!! I’m seeing Colt on your channel……lol
Surprisingly, I'm using HiFi speakers for monitoring (well, my Turntable, CD player are in the room as well, that's why).
Using Focal Electra 906's (got them for 450€ the pair.), and to compare recordings with, I have a Beyerdynamic DT250 headset.
Question: Is it a good idea to change our speakers too often?
I mean by changing the monitoring system our brain has to learn again all these little things in the accoustic of the room, even the best studio room.
I think I can maybe do better things with not so bad spakers and a room I know since 5 years than with a new pair of "better" speakers I don't know yet.
I just ask the question.
Focal Solo 6be.. Excellent for small spaces
I have KRK VXT8, they old but still cool 😎
What's the name of the table your compute monitor, keyboard and mouse are sitting on? The one on the left side of the room. Thanks!
It's linked in the description "standing table on wheels"
Andrew, how do you like the Adam 10" Sub? I want a unit to match my Adam A7v's. Any pro's and con's . Please let me know. Thank you.
That wallpaper you got going on your mac looks amazing! Care to share?
I have a custom made 3 way. Relatively flat to 50hz. With a ribbon tweeter, morel dome mid, and Scanspeak 6.5”. I forget what the port is tuned to. With an 8” warfdale sub. They are not as boundary dependent as some may think. Driving them with Parasound Halo A23. When I take my Audeze LCD-XC off it’s almost a perfect translation mixing between the two. If you haven’t rocked a pair of Audeze XC do yourself a favor. They we power hungry but they are insanely transparent.
Oh and one thing! Time alignment! Tweeters closer to ear with the drivers farther away mechanically puts the sound out of phase. I may catch crap for this but the tweeter should always be either on the same plane or farther than the drivers. Limiting the need for EQ or processing to get the speakers to be accurate. I’m not sure if the Focal has the DSP attached to the amp to correct for this or not.
ATC SCM45A monitors here.. Buy once, cry once 😥😂
when he gets to try the ATCs he will never turn back haha
It’s unbelievable these guys have been to so many studios and still get some 8k Focals over some top Atc’s, mind boggling…… It’s like they’ve heard something out of them that nobody else has and I’d like to know what exactly….
ATC and PMC it’s a one and done purchase.. Also heard great feedback for Dutch and Dutch, Ex Machina, and Kii. Genelec SAM are also great. Dynaudio Core and JBL 708p Mastering Series are also popular especially in film and post if you plan to go Atmos at some point. .
@@marklholloway I also have the 45a's and they're definitely a one and done purchase. If I ever do change, the only upgrade I'd do would be to the ATC's SCM200ASL Pro, but way out of my league with the 35.000e price tag. Haven't heard the majority of speakers you've mentioned, but I have heard all the top tier Focals and they don't even come close to Atc's.
I Love my APS Klasik 2020
Where is part two? Can’t wait to see what you think of them!
Adam A7X user here!
Please please please give the Kali Audio IN-8 a shot and do a review
I’ve got some Kali’s and for the price, boy what a steal
They are three way co-axial too!
I Have The JBL LSR-305 and the KRK ROKIT 10-3 G4 ... and a like it. greets
Check out the Genelec 8351B. I have Genelec 8010A in my (Office), Genelec s30ch (Studio), DynAudio bm15p with Bryston 4B (Living room), Adam t5v (Studio).
I have a problem with buying audio equipment.
You really, really should give the PSI audios a go.
Also i think you should try Out the PSI A-25 M.
Likely over his budget tbh, especially when you compare to his planned monitors (the trio 6's)
The nuemann monitors are catching my eye .. I went from a 26x21 foot room with hs8's and hs5's a few years ago with 2 ported 15 inch subs to a much smaller room , within a room im building which thats 9 foot wide , by 18 foot long , 8 foot tall .. ugh .. IM worried .. I have always liked the " fast " tight sound of higher end sealed speakers ... Technically ported speakers have alot of problems and the nuemanns are the only ones i know about that are sealed ... Ive already bought two big boy sub drivers im putting in a sealed box and will run dsp on for cross over controls .. ANyhow it kinda blows my mind that so many monitors are ported designs anymore .. The most room sensitive speaker design possible is a ported box .. Flutter delay , port noise , comb filtering , and sensitivity to room pressures changing the sound of a ported setup ... ALOT of variables ... Ported speakers are designed for efficiency for low end but at the cost of SO MUCH in my eyes .. ANyhow hopefully my new little studio with a iso booth and server closet will be done in the following months .. I hope i dont hate it ..LOL ..ALready have a TON of rockwool waiting to become building treatment on almost every inch of the room . 14.5 bass trap / soffit wall ?
They are massive, they look like they are way too close now.
Colt is the best
Is anyone using EQ on their inexpensive monitors? I live in poverty as a musician, and must make huge compromises in the studio. I use many sources to check mixes, 1) Roland RSM90s near fields 2) Typical consumer Sony home stereo 3) Sennheiser HD208pro headphones, 4) My tracking monitors Roland Cube CM30s. The Cubes are sound reinforcement speakers, but I am using them as my main monitors for sound design on synths and effects, mixing levels, EQ, and mixdown. When taking the Cube monitor mix over to my other systems for comparison, I am always happy with my final mixes. And I am happy on my friends systems as well, so the Cubes are doing very well on a good average mix. Now to make these little Cubes work I have to add a small amount of low end EQ that is built into Cube, and it works, without the little bass boost I would get booming bass on my other sources. So instead of buying a real set of near fields for all my recording and synth sound design, I continue to use these for over 10 years now. Using a Cube monitor for years lets me know how the mix will sound on my other sources, Only once did I ever go back and remix, and that was when I used the Sennheiser Headphones to mix, not a good idea, these head phones lack bass response and all my other source systems were booming bass.
I have JBL LSR4328P w/ JBL LSR310S 10 inch Powered Studio Subwoofer
Size matters 😄
Hedd Type 20 with Hedd Bass 08 sub :)
#FocalGang 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Shoutout to my Focal Alpha 65 w/ KRK Sub crew!
Where is part 2??
No Genelec action?
Genelec> Focal
@@ofir5000 do you have anything from “the ones” series?
@@dougleydorite
My dream is the 8361A but unfortunately it's too expensive 😢
@@ofir5000 I was looking at the 8351B but now I’m looking at atc 45. I’m not getting hasty, though, I’m putting my $$$ towards room treatment
@@dougleydorite
ATCs are great but less accurate than Genelec + they don't have built in DSP and DAC and no GLM
I dot trust mixers without NS10s or Mixcubes
why are you wearing a hat? is it cold?
Who cares