I find no joy in making these videos and I do them so that people understand this isn’t normal. I’ve made it known that I am not a drama channel. I’m a gaming commentary channel and I just look at topics people are talking about. Anyone that’s watched my content knows I’ve been hitting a wide array of games and topics surrounding social media. I will never stay silent against racism as I know that there are black individuals that enjoy my content. I would like to at least show solidarity with my people. Many of us don’t have voices or are platforms are stifled for even talking about racism. Please just listen!
I can only imagine the feelings and emotions you went through on this one. Including, but not limited to: betrayal, anger, frustration, and disappointment.
Ken I thoroughly appreciate you taking the time to attack these issues within the splatoon and gaming community. I am sorry this is something you have to address at all, but I think you give a measured viewpoint and it is clearly not your intention to insight more anger.
How can you be racist and play Splatoon 💀 its like being homophobic and loving Steven Universe The game's storyline (mainly the Octo Expansion) is so focused around the effects racism has on the Octolings. I just...how.
I'm starting to understand more and more why Nintendo has such strict tournament guidelines. It's because their communities can't act normal for a minute.
Another problem is, it's not even just nintendo communities. It's gaming communities as a whole. Witch isn't any better because that just means issues like this are widespread to a stupid degree. and that unfortunately includes some people in our communities
@@PRINTORO yeah. Cod lobbies aren't exactly know for spreading positivity in game chats. Obviously it's not everyone in the community but saying that is sorta deflecting the problem. Regardless of how many people it actually is, that side is loud enough that's its a notable problem
As a queer person, splatoon is one of the only online communities that feel safe and welcoming. The fact that POC cant find that same safety in this space is so upsetting. ESPECIALLY knowing how widespread this is and how long this has been going on. The fact that some of the leaders of our community are engaging in this behavior is so disgusting.
Here I thought the community itself was a safe haven for mostly everything and everyone and like, that's what makes this really heartbreaking, for at least to me, knowing that there's THESE types of people in the community itself.
Said this on another video Ken made, but as a straight white female with autism and ADHD, this and the screen situation made it apparent this community only is super accepting to queers. Lots of mental and racial issues are ignored or written off
Hell, as a queer person, you only get to feel safe if you construct yourself that group. The overall Splat community is barely better than your run of the mill cod community.
@@gh0stgarbage the only thing is I've never came across a single hateful person in the splatoon community, because you either are really lucky or they're very rare to come across and you have to look hard
Black people are the pillar of the western splatoon community, from comp players to content creators and tournament organizers y'all are out there keeping this community alive. I hope jackpot takes a long hard look in the mirror and works on themselves. This is so foul.
I’m not black, but I am POC (Asian) and this deeply disappointed me. Jackpot was a team I looked up to and having this come to light is something I cannot comprehend. I’m terribly sorry to all the pain it has caused to Black members of the community and I feel extremely guilty for even downloading the Jackpot banner the second I found out it was available. Racism has never been okay, not once, not ever. Why is it so difficult for people to be NORMAL for once?
I really hate how some people act like being blatantly racist is just a phase every white person goes through when they're young. They knew what they said was offensive. That's why the jokes were considered edgy. (And also recent racism, so it wasn't just a long time ago) The fact that their racism was an open secret in the competitive community is sad.
@PatPatych Splatoon CZcamsrs who have never talked about drama within the community are speaking out about this, I barely see the banner now despite it being everywhere when it first released, and I've even seen one or two posts about it in the Splatoon 3 Plaza. People definitely care. Nintendo is definitely going to be making some sort of change either now or for future tournaments, Nintendo at least cares about its reputation.
@@DeletedCharacter That's just your bubble where everyone is hypersensitive and are looking for ways to virtue signal. I see this banner all the time, all the normal people just laugh this "drama" away. You are not the center of the world, sorry.
Take it from me, a former Star Wars/Star Trek/Doctor Who/comic fan: any time someone says things like diverse and Inclusive, it means they are the most exclusive, that they are the most racist, and they are the most pandering.
Someone pointed out on twitter that the clip with the freeza meme is super recent, due to having the revised undertow map and one enemy teammate using an side order weapon. Dont let these people lie and say this stuff was years ago, and that theyve changed. They havent, theyve been saying these things super recently.
i noticed, the fact that they seriously had the audacity to lie about (and by extension, downplay) the “jokes” is honestly appalling tbh Seriously hope they get blacklisted from future tournaments
@@sand2159 Well true but the recent controversy made me lose respect with the other 3. I maybe into dark humor but there is major difference of jokes contain racism and being racist for jokes.
Imagine finally getting the community recognized in-game...and then FOREVER tying that recognition to being RACIST AS HELL. Nintendo needs to burn that banner ASAP
Yea, and then there’s the side effect of Nintendo possibly never acknowledging players like this again so they don’t risk a controversy. So not only we’re they racist, but they’ve potentially negatively affected the relationship between the players and devs for years to come
Where's the punchline here? They're just insulting us because... we exist? That's not funny. It just hurts. It sucks that internet culture has progressed to a point where people can think an internet apology undoes what they said. We're not brick walls. This stuff does affect us, far after we read their apology. Especially if we hear it every day, or if people we look up to say it. I can't imagine being a kid in the community looking up to Jackpot and hearing that. Makes me not want to trust anyone in the community.
I really don't get how some people's humor, basically boils down to "[Insert Cultural/Racial Group Here], am I right? :D" Like, its not funny. No matter what you fill the blank in with, it will never be funny. Like I could say "Man, Racism am I right?" but...where's the punchline...? I just acknowledged Racism is a thing with that statement. Or how about "The ocean, am I right?" Again...where's the punchline? Something existing and pointing out it's existence and how you hate it doesn't make it funny, and dunking on an ethic group definitely doesn't make something funny
It's so awful, Racism is never funny and never has been. Making fun of a group of people's mere existence isn't funny and it's just disgusting. People have gotten way too comfortable with being racist and it's illogical and disgusting. Dark humor can work but, like, this can't even be called humor there's no punchline or anything to laugh at It's just harmful. I wish it was better.
Yesss, and what's even worse is that there are many people who will hit you with the "I'm (insert whatever race), and I don't find this offensive people are too sensitive" which actively fuel these people to think this kind of behavior is ok.
As a Black man who has followed this series since middle school, this truly hurts to see. Many of the things said in these tweets and chatlogs are absolutely appalling, and I'm glad more light is being shed upon them. Racism should never be tolerated under any circumstances, and I hope more people will learn that comments like these are simply not okay to say. I want to send a message to all of the people out there who have been discriminated based on your race, ethnicity, gender, or social background. Be proud of who you are. There are people out there who have and will continue to say hurtful things, but that doesn't mean you have to accept those comments. Never be afraid to speak out against hatred of any kind. Even if what you say doesn't resonate with people now, someone will surely find value in it in the future. Ken, you're an amazing content creator and I appreciate all that you do for the Black Community. Keep up the great work, King!
This problem absolutely goes beyond Jackpot or "why can't people be normal". I've joined a few tournament Discords and see people treating racism like it's funny because they know it's not something they're supposed to do. Like "oooh you told me not to touch the stove so I'm going to touch it" and not "If you behave this way, it tells marginalised players they are unwelcome, and makes them have to pay an emotional/psychological price to play alongside you". I see queer folk being like "omg this person is so embarrassing, I'm becoming homophobic [skull emoji]" and it's not funny there, and it's not funny when done to black people either. I'm seeing a lot of comments from people congratulating white content creators who were racist in the past and have since changed their behaviour, and respectfully, that isn't the focus. We should be asking ourselves why people can join the Splatoon community and just pick up racial slurs as part of the vocabulary. There is absolutely a racism problem.
Ngl this hurts man watching leafi play stamper drove me to 5 star the weapon and I would always drop by Jared’s streams. Now it all poured down the drain. What hurts even more is that ken probably didn’t want to make this video but it has to be addressed. As a black man I went to highschool with people who acted like this on a daily but who gonna teach them right?
I remember seeing a comic on twitter with splatoon characters, squid sisters, saying micro aggressions towards marina. While at first it received backlash, the artist explained that it was about how even your favorite ppl can do wrong. This is a perfect example not to idolize anyone especially those you don’t know. Jackpot had no shame being racist so let’s keep them accountable. They’re still young and impressionable but old enough to understand what they did hurts everyone. Being educated is important, and passing on that knowledge even better, whether to strangers or people you love. Silence is complicity.
WHY CAN'T PEOPLE BE NORMAL OH MY GOD EDIT: (Sense I don't think some people read this in the comments.) I want to clarify that this is simply a reaction post and doesn't align with what I would say with further thought. This is a rhetorical question. I think the concept of normalcy tends to skew towards privileged, often able bodied white cishet people, used to box society into a fixed moral structure (mental and physical). I'm also an atheist, but have a habit of saying "oh my God" due to growing up religious. What my reaction means is; "These people are terrible. I am sorry for those effected and am enraged because of it." Thanks to everyone contributing all the thoughtful comments!
Rather: Why can’t people just be accepting? Even if you dislike a person, just… leave them be. Is it that hard? I’m socially awkward at times and I know people come to me to start a conversation *on purpose.* It’s really obvious they know that I don’t know how to respond to certain questions (consciously). Just leave me alone if you dislike me for the fact that I’m socially awkward.
It's human nature to be tribal it's *aways* been a us vs. them mentality. And if it's not race, it's nationality. If it's not nationality, it's religion. If it's not religion, it's ideology. That being said, knowing our evils will help us mitigate it.
Why cant people just BE NICE TO PEOPLE. Like genuinely why is it so difficult?? As a mixed person I've gotten my fair share of racial slurs thrown at me and it's just like...why? What pleasure is it supposed to bring?? I just don't understand it anymore.
Your first two lines are literally my entire comment on this video. I genuinely don't understand why someone could want to hurt someone else for no reason whatsoever.
not defending their shi at all, that stuff's nasty. but some ppl that came from bad homes growing up (like me) could not care less abt others, cause they been proven time and time again that the other is just another dipshit waiting to ruin their day like all of em before him. "why should i care abt this mf??", that's how it goes. again, not talking abt their case, just giving an answer
@@bazooga242 I mean I get that but sometimes you gotta take the goggles off and look around and take a moment for yoursel and understand where your life is, where it's going, and how you wanna change it for the better, bc I believe people can change, but there comes a point where if you're so set in your ways, you're unsalvageable
Idk what to say, this is just gross. Even a community like splatoon, which has so many amazing black content creators and pro players, isnt safe from this kind of behaviour. just goes to show how important it is to listen to POC voices talk about these kinds of things, please keep up it up Ken! We're here to support!
i don't even understand how it's funny? private conversation or not, it's simply not funny, just foul. they must be feeling like shit rn cause this is so stupid and straight up cringe
It’s even worse when you find out that they were trying to hide these interactions until they got exposed. As the old saying goes “Actions speak louder than words.”
Granted it makes sense. I’ve said shit years ago that I am NOT proud of and even though I’ve changed I’m not gonna go around parading those moments. Rather I acknowledge that they were wrong, shouldn’t have happened and now it’s time for me to move on and be better. But the issue here with jackpot is that some of the things they said were recent, and they were still trying to hide it. There was no change going on, just continuous sweeping under the rug
The age contexts are always important to me in stuff like this. I know for a lot of people, the age or context doesn't matter because it still happened. But it's something that actually separates the Chara issue from the entire Jackpot issue for me. Chara admitted and clarified that he still did it, as a parroting teenager [at the time he would've been fifteen] without context as to what the words actually meant. He's around 23 now, at least. That's six years of time to grow and reflect, and that's how you learn. Leafi's claims don't hold any weight because the clip on Spillway was _after_ the rework to the map. That's recent. That's 1-2 months ago. She actively contradicts herself and logically cannot claim she was 'thirteen and dumb' when there's recent screenshots or videos of her saying or laughing at these kinds of things. Q and Jared's statements are interesting, because I do get to some extent where they're coming from in saying that they're not responsible for others' actions. By technicality, especially given Leafi and Madness are _old enough_ to understand I would think, it's Not Q's _or_ Jared's responsibility. But you can, and should hold your friends accountable when they do or say questionable things, at least in my and many others' minds. Doing nothing is doing something. It's making a choice not to bother, because doing nothing is personally easier than doing something. The silence from friends or family when you see or are someone facing something is deafening. I'm glad to see they held themselves accountable, at least for the most part? But it is unfortunate that this kind of thing happened. Either way, I can criticize them, but these aren't my apologies to accept. I'm not black. I'd rather discuss and listen to my friends and those who are, to understand what they're feeling better.
Well, as a black person, this hurts 💀 i was never really into the comp scene but jackpot (besides last resort) was my favorite team to watch and i even got so scared for them when they started losing the championship. I guess it would've been better in the long run if they did, seeing this. God i hate it here Edit: .q and Jared don't seem like the worst ones here, but the way Jared enabled someone who harrassed q?? Yeah, i'd be looking at him different if i were her, i think
Ngl, the intro reminded me when a friend of mine asked would I be offended or take it as a compliment, if I was compared to Caeser from Planet of the Apes. On one hand, Caesar is the G.o.a.t., but at the same time, I'm being directly compared to a chimp. Race jokes should be shit y'all do with y'all friends. Too many of y'all be making them with random strangers, and y'all aren't cool. As Ken said, most people makes the jokes about themselves, to laugh at the pain, and to be honest, some are damn funny. However, most of y'all just cross the line between "Race Joke", and just being racist. If people don't find it funny, maybe stop talking.
Something I noticed with the internet is people treat each other like a lot of the strangers here are there friends. When they know nothing about them. People are too comfortable with just saying anything to anyone.
that's the problem though, it's not just about if you're friends with them or not. It's about if the person on the receiving end is comfortable with it or not. Even with my own friends, there's only so many race jokes I can take before I say "no more" and draw the line. And even if someone's comfortable with it, it doesn't change the fact that the joke is inherently racist, whether intentional or not. I just hate how our culture just suddenly made race jokes okay and even how some of our own people feed into this; it's just a self-perpetuating problem that's getting worse.
Seeing such racism in a community like SPLATOON where the franchise has such deep themes of beauty and respect for everyone and a large interconnecting world that suffered from racism and actively healthed with the playerbase from it and with many amazing black characters and more I do not understand at all how the pinnacle of the year's competitive scene of this franchise is tied to such racists, and how these came to be in this game
As a white person in this community I can’t understand why you would say that on a public space. If anything either say it in your head or not at all. No one needs that type of hate. Especially with how much there is today.
honestly, people need to know not to make fun of anyone for being different. and i do mean everyone, NOT just white people, and Jackpot. It's insane how people think they can get away with this stuff.
amidst all this upsetting stuff coming out, I hope you and any others affected by this hateful rhetoric are holding up okay and taking care of yourselves. I'm so sorry that so many members of our community keep letting you down and treating you with such a cruel lack of respect, and that even people we should be able to trust to represent splatoon can be so unconcerned with the people around them. it sucks, nobody wins in this kind of environment, but vulnerable people definitely lose and we just have to start giving more of a shit about it. the fact that so much of the racism that came out was public, in broad daylight for everyone to see, and someone could STILL not hear about it happening because of how easily it was dismissed... what a nightmare.
The ultimate problem I have with the entire situation (which applies to most of these kinds of things) is that are they really sorry or just sorry they got caught? I don’t want to stir the drama anymore than it already will itself but there are just too many cases of this in so many places that people will be simply sad because they can’t do it anymore. No matter how ridiculous that sounds. It just comes down to how much trust has been lost from that situation. And unfortunately, it is something we will likely never know. I do hope that in the future they can move on and become better people than they have been.
@@SmashtoonGamer I think the larger problem is that this kind of use of racist comments is used as jokes by the younger generation (definitely at least where I’m from) because they think they are too young to get punished for it (ik they are a bit older but it kinda still applies since older stuff was referenced)
It’s genuinely heartbreaking seeing how predominant of an issue racism is in this community because I feel like it’s not very controversial to say that splatoon has the most inclusive fanbase of any major shooter game out there. The fact that title is given to a community that still has top players acting like this is just.. why is the bar in hell
literally started playing in November. my frist time getting into the series and i find out the team who wins the championship hates us. we r the butt of jokes. they not like us frfr, kendrick was right
ik this is going to come up in comments but please don’t say “All lives matter” the point is about how the racism is towards black people obviously everyone matters but in this fked up situation it’s about how the racism to the black community.
Racist: ALL LIVES MATTER! Us: Black people's lives too? Racist: 😬 wellllllll They literally refer to Black Lives Matter as BLM only because their subconscious knows being against a movement literally about protecting human lives is messed up...
Exactly; I’ve heard an analogy of saying “all lives matter” to giving everyone bandages even though one person needs it, or sending a fire truck to every house on the block even though only one is on fire rather than immediately going to the one on fire, which is the reason it’s necessary to say #BlackLivesMatter.
If anyone says All Lives Matter…. They just don’t like black people. It’s as simple as that. It always has to be about everyone else. Because GOD FORBID a black person calls out someone for being racist, esp not a white person, but other POC!!
Just remember, everyone, do not judge the whole Splatoon community by this. Saying that this situation sucks is a huge understatement, and there are absolutely way more racists in this community than there should be, but this side of the community is a very loud minority. You should never generalize a whole community off of its worst people It's "There should not be any racists in this community, and the fact that there are multiple in a team that so many people looked up to is a problem", not "The Splatoon community is racist"
“Not all splatoon players” BUT ENOUGH TO BE AN ISSUE THAT SHOULD DEF AFFECT HOW PPL VIEW THE COMMUNITY!!! Don’t do this bad apple sh! Because it’s downplaying the situation. There is no “but” to the racism. IT IS PREVALENT.
@@thelingeringartist I'm not disagreeing with that. Yes, it definitely has an effect on how the Splatoon community is viewed, and I am not at all excusing the racism. It quite hurt me to see a team I had respect for act so horribly. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't _generalize_ the Splatoon community. Yes, there are absolutely more racist people here than there should be. But it also wouldn't be fair to straight up say "the Splatoon community is racist", because while that minority is WAY bigger than it should be, it is still a minority. People shouldn't get the idea that this is what the _majority_ of people here are like, because there are a lot of really nice people here I am not trying to downplay the racism, I'm trying to say that we shouldn't go around saying things like "Splatoon players are racist" because of it, because I've seen that happening. I am sorry if the original comment made it seem like I was trying to downplay the racism, that was not at all my intent
@mewa3263 I hate that I thought of this as a Splatoon pun despite the seriousness of it all. This is a very true and honest statement about this situation and various others.
As a black furry, its even worse in those spaces as well with antiblackness and antiblack racism. in the splatoon community the first competitive team i tried out for in college, team rose, had a dude in it who said the hard N word on mic and i left the group cause that was just wild to hear casually. the lead member did apologize on that persons behalf but the damage was done. also i personally dont care if youre 13 or 33 saying these things. the impact will always matter more and if youre younger that just means you had horrible parents or environment that taught you this hate. or maybe they dont monitor what these kids look at on youtube or something thats indoctrinating these white kids into these racist/alt right circles. irregardless i dont care what the reason is, i dont have to forgive or forget antiblack racism
@DJOpaltavio Issues with a marginalized group (furries) being worse to marginalized groups inside them (black furries). You probably know nothing about the controversy in the Furry fandom, but there are some genuinely awful people that are either p-dos, racist, n-zis, beast... stuff. Literally anything alt right weirdos would like, there are furries that exisst in that space.
@@DJOpaltavio ppl who don’t like furries go to the point where they want them either dead or say other heinous things they would do furries like “hunt” them. They probably included that because of how much ppl misinterpreted and/or hate a furry which could add on to ppl hating them more.
Here from ProChara, all I can say is that this is unacceptable. The fact that people think they can get away with racism like this is horrible, and I wish we could make them see that.
as a black person… i’m starting to become numb to all this racism. it’s incredibly sad too :/ shouldn’t even be that way, and i hate that things are this way.
As a black man( 20s) who also enjoys Splatoon, this news doesn’t surprise me at all. White people (and I say white because that’s who it always is) for some reason, always feel the need to participate in this type of behavior because “ooooh, it’s wrong and I know it’s disrespectful, but who cares, I can say and do what I want with no consequences” that’s the attitude that comes across to me anyway. If you won’t say it in public, don’t say it in private, because truth always comes to the light in the end… Thanks Ken for shedding light on this topic with your platform. I could care less for their apologies, because amongst themselves, in their little friend groups, I doubt things change until they feel repercussions for their actions.
I kind of think Nintendo should do something about this, especially with that banner. I dont want the jackpot banner anymore. This is so sad to see happen.
I'm very glad you made this video! While I am not Black and thus lack the perspective needed here, this video has built my understanding of racism as an issue, not just in the splatoon community, but in internet culture as a whole. And by a lot of comments i see here it seems like many others agree with the feelings you've stated. And while I typically stay away from heavy topics like this now, Im very happy i stayed for this one. Have a good day man! You deserved it!
The community is mostly cool, but the more popular the game gets, the more bad eggs leak in. Kinda like what happened to Pokemon a little. We just have to stick together and make our own circle of positivity! ✨
This is not why we don't have tournaments. Just about every esport with an infamously more toxic community has tournaments just fine. But man. Sucks to see a bunch of racists running around. Can't stand people without empathy like that.
Honestly, I hope Nintendo finds out and removes that banner. I did too, and i thought it was a nice commerorative item, but now i am honestly disappointed. I have had the same derogative phrase sent to me before, and constantly, especially when i was younger. i had an american-like accent when i used to mimic people speaking online on youtube. Being called an "American Retärd" by people who knew me. i am autistic, but i am not American and have never lived there. at the time i didn't know what it meant, but now it makes me cry. I am so disappoited with Jackpot, and now i hope they never come back to Splatoon 3's competitive scene ever again.
Honestly it’s something as someone who started playing VRChat back in May… the amount of people joining furry and/or LGBT+ worlds/spaces just to go up to people yelling the N word and so on- is a lot. I specify those spaces not as the people who fit those demographics being the ones who do so, but the amount of people who hate on furries and LGBT+ people who join end up loving to say some vile shit including the n word. Which makes sense, because usually one kind of hate goes along with another when someone is a bigoted ass. Just at the same time very annoying.
6:35 the way Ken casually lumps China and Japan together “because its all asia” before going on about how you have to respect their culture is as offensive as it is ironic. “Yeah I dont really care about the differences, its the same crap probably.” This is straight up ignorance and as an “Asian” I 100% reserve the right to be offended. I have pretty thick skin and I’m pretty cool with cutting people slack so I’m not devastated or anything. I’m just making the point that were all ignorant to our own ignorances and that maybe you shouldn’t assume the worst out of others from their mistakes. Yes, I understand what Jackpot and friends said is much worse, but the point still stands. We all harbor the potential for ignorance as well as change, so maybe we all also should go a little less scorched earth as well.
No, It more means respecting other cultures. I apologize if my wording was off, but that was not my intent. I would have said a similar thing about caribbean culture as a lot of us share similar aspects is all. I had no ill intent.
@@KenKnowsItyou’re good, I didnt think you had any ill intent in the first place and its even better that it turned out to be more of a poor wording thing. Just happened that the two implied cultures have a lot of bad blood between each other. Lots of Chinese still view Japan as a former oppressor, and Japan has similarly harsh views towards China.
We ain't human beings to them brotha, they think of us as basically NPCs. Some of these apologies are garbage btw, not all of them but some of them read as "Oh it was a joke I wasn't trying to be racist but sorry anyways." Rather than, "Hey I said some fucked shit, it hurt people but I've since had conversations with people that has shifted my perspective and I've learned and grown and I am not okay with my conduct and behavior in the past."
I said it before, and I’ll say it again… I don’t get why people judge others at all, be it sexuality, race, gender, preferences, hobbies, or anything of the sort. Like I swear they act like people are aliens because of their skin, place of origin, preference, and so on. Why tho? Are they afraid of them? Are they jealous of them? Did they go through some past trauma? So many questions.
I have definitely encountered sweaty gamer racism at my locals, and even just as a visitor to smaller tournaments. A lot of older gamers come from that 4chan gauntlet that dominated the social climate of gaming from classic XBOX days, and that virulent racism is almost a hazing ritual now in locals even if none of the kids are spending time on /b/ and SomethingAwful. Discord and other insular messaging communities keep that culture going by making echo chambers. It has always sucked for me to be a black + queer nerd on voice chat or in person at cons and tournaments. Splatoon's reputation makes bigoted people a bit less open with their prejudice, but get into the wrong discord server and you end up with people being racist over you having a dark skinned Octoling or wearing the afro. It's always been there unfortunately.
I detest being in the Splatoon Community very often, even if tons of my friends are in it. It's like people can't go a single day without doing something horrible.
It’s sad that people can’t realize color doesn’t matter what matters is your actions don’t be disrespectful to others especially to people that are a different race than you
Hearing that large members of the splatoon community are racist is really disheartening to hear. I’ve always thought that splatoon had one of the most diverse and accepting communities compared to any other game. I mean just by seeing the community posts, you see people from many different minorities able to be open with themselves. So it’s definitely sad to see that even one of the nicest communities like this, struggles with something as horrible as racism.
Honestly it's not that bad at all its just jokes if anyone is truly upset turn the game off don't complain and ruin everything for everyone that's how you get bs like the next game having all black squid sisters or something dumb like that.
I know what banner wont be used by the comunity now. Rip to everyone repping the jackpot banner for the last few days (including me 💀), unintentional friendly fire.
Jesus Christ. What can you even say about this? They spend time in a competitive community prided on being inclusive and this sort of behavior has been happening for years?? They were treating their peers and people in the community like this?? It's unbelievable. What's worse is that it's going to sully the reputation of the NA competitive community in Nintendo's eyes. Because of one groups actions, a large portion of this community that are responsible and loving, not to mention all the top players who are people of color, are going to have to answer for their actions. This is by no means the worst thing about this, obviously the antiblackness/racism and how it's affected everyone around them is, but its so frustrating as a person of color who wants to be in the competitive scene that because of these racists, we're going to have to fight even harder to be acknowledged. that these are the people the community has looked up to. It breaks my heart to think about the black players and other players who r poc and how they must be feeling. There needs to be a larger initiative to keep our community safe from this type of behavior. I hope them ruining their careers and screwing everyone else over in the process was worth it for them.
I feel like it shouldn’t matter if it’s private or not?? Like you were being weird and incredibly disrespectful to poc for no reason??? Like in what way was that funny, and how would you expect someone to react???
I'm a white woman. I cannot relate to racism, but I can relate to being judged based on my gender. It's genuinely disturbing that these kinds of things still happen. It must be so exhausting to be a black person (and especially a black woman). To have your entire identity be a joke to some people, that, in extreme cases, leads to violence and real harm. I don't forgive Jackpot until they show they are doing better, and Madness's silence is basically a death sentence for that asshole.
imagine being the best team in the world and be cancelled over racism. how unfortunate and i hope they learn from this. on another topic, my controversial hot take is that this kind of language is never going to go away as long as people are using it casually and yes I do mean even when black people say its ok for THEM to say it. I get it that its ok for them to say it but lets be realistic for a second… people are stupid especially young people and they happen to be in circles where that word is thrown casually, they’re going to think its okay to say it to since they are in that circle. Its the whole reason why non black people think its ok to say the N word in rap songs since its just part of the song. I get this take is controversial and people who flame me for telling black people to stop using the N word but thats just how I see it until someone can prove me otherwise. I wish black people would have banded as a whole against that word and find a new word that they can use to refer to themselves amongst themselves
It's honestly exhausting that we have to have this conversation constantly. I'm so tired of people passing blatant racism as "edgy" humor. Not to mention people trying to use their age as a scapegoat when they get called out. Can teens be immature and ignorant? Obviously, but they're not little kids they know right from wrong and should be held accountable for it. I'm so glad that you were straightforward in this video because people are so quick to dance around the issue instead of just calling it like it is. I don't get why people are so comfortable with acting like this.
Some of the dates people are saying, are outright wrong and they are lying. Please look at the undertow clips. First and foremost, there is an order shot in the lobby. When did that come out guys? And secondly, undertow has the most current stage updates, when did that happen guys? This is messed up and idk why no one has really caught on
exactly. they have not changed, they have not learned. they should be barred from competing ever again, because it's NOT THAT SERIOUS and it will NOT KILL THEM. nintendo needs to stand up to this despicable shit.
imagine going through the effort to become a top player, practicing for thousands of hours and eventually making it to an official major like this only to completely dismantle your own reputation with this disgusting behavior and ruin any chance you had of making it to future tournaments. i know no community is immune to this bs, but it feels especially heartbreaking coming from the splatoon community. thanks for bringing all this to our attention, i would have not known about it otherwise since i stay far away from twitter these days aha
This game series has shaped so much of my life and gotten me in touch with some of the most ride or die friends I've ever had. Unfortunately, the Splatoon community has been very vocal in their disdain and hatred of black people. I've been doxxed, I've been harassed, I've gotten hate asks and death threats on Tumblr, and even thought now I look back on it and can laugh at the absurdity of it all, I still fully left the community over it and just enjoy my own slice of it me and my friends made. Seeing all this with Jackpot doesn't surprise me, but the fact that it happened so recently and at such a high level with a LOT of publicity is utterly disappointing and disgusting. I'm black, and I'm queer, and it's always felt like the only acceptable part of me was the queer part. It sucks.
I truly hope 777 makes this a serious learning and teaching moment. I expect the Splatoon community to be inclusive to all types of people, and 777 should use their platform to be leaders in this philosophy.
I literally just found out about all this the day before yesterday and its disheartening to see. The fact that things haven't changed is appalling. People need to be held accountable for their actions. I was gonna get the banner when I saw it bc damn, it looked cool as hell, but I'm not doin that anymore. There's literally no reason! Why would I support people that can't even treat others with common human decency? It would make me just as guilty because in a subtle way it's saying "Hey, its okay to be racist and treat others like dog shit just because you're champions and good at the game!" Nah bruh. Just be kind and respect others! IT'S NOT HARD TO TREAT PEOPLE WITH RESPECT!
i think this, as well as other small things like using dark skinned inklings is just examples of the black community getting disrespected by the splatoon community (which contains many minority groups)
Thank you for shining light on this, I didn’t know this shit was going down within the Splatoon community is so saddening. Shits so dumb and the fact that still people doing this shit in 2024 is crazy. I especially on discord when everything is public and can be searched up
kinda hating myself cuz i used to look up to madness. was in every pre worlds stream and supported him on twitch. ordered anchor sweat from him and cherished it for months then found out the whole monkey stuff happened(im black)
I usually play devil’s advocate when it comes to some people being ignorant about race. It sound ironic, I know, being a black woman gamer. I heard the clip and wondered if they were just trying to do something related to Freeza because they way they said it did sound like the character’s inflection. But as I learn more… I can’t anymore. It’s tiring. I just want a place to play games and have fun. Black people and people of color just want a place to play games and have fun and for some reason we have to fight to have that right. Why must we fight for the right to have fun?
I find no joy in making these videos and I do them so that people understand this isn’t normal. I’ve made it known that I am not a drama channel. I’m a gaming commentary channel and I just look at topics people are talking about. Anyone that’s watched my content knows I’ve been hitting a wide array of games and topics surrounding social media.
I will never stay silent against racism as I know that there are black individuals that enjoy my content. I would like to at least show solidarity with my people. Many of us don’t have voices or are platforms are stifled for even talking about racism.
Please just listen!
I can only imagine the feelings and emotions you went through on this one.
Including, but not limited to: betrayal, anger, frustration, and disappointment.
this whole situation must be a living hell
you and everyone else never deserved this hate
@@user-qq5ei4rk5i Let me guess, you're an edgy teenager who thinks racism is funny?
Ken I thoroughly appreciate you taking the time to attack these issues within the splatoon and gaming community. I am sorry this is something you have to address at all, but I think you give a measured viewpoint and it is clearly not your intention to insight more anger.
i kown people are being r### like saying the n world on coling me the n@$#
“Why doesn’t nintendo ever acknowledge the competitive community?”
5 minutes after they acknowledge them:
Honestly.
Like unironically this is why we can't have nice things.
So true 😭
right? nintendo is smart they know , same with the smash community it's full of pfiles and racists
Like literally. Wasn't it less than a week from the Splashtag and this happens? 😂
Nintendo doesn’t acknowledge competitive community because it’s not a part of their economic model
Finding out that Splatoon champions are racist is the most unexpected and horrible thing that could happened
I've lost all respect I've had for them, its just horrible
@@Rosellei Same it's a shame what they did
Same which is such a shame because as a dark tan person i love jackpot i can't support this racist remarks @@Rosellei
Welcome to online gaming..
it's really disappointing, like i don't want splatoon to be like smash scene at 2020 where a lot of top players turns out having problems
How can you be racist and play Splatoon 💀 its like being homophobic and loving Steven Universe
The game's storyline (mainly the Octo Expansion) is so focused around the effects racism has on the Octolings. I just...how.
YOU'RE SO REAL FOR THIS
It happens I’m afraid. Just like how I recently stumbled upon a Hazbin fan that was homophobic… like be fr
I skipped splatoon 2
Exactly 😭
Also being homophobic and playing Splatoon itself is similar cuz it has an actual f*cking lesbian couple-
GREAT COMPARISON
"years ago" when I can clearly see the tunnel on the undertow rework and a side order weapon in the match is crazy
RIGHT?? YEARS AGO?? BROTHER SIDE ORDER CAME OUT LESS THAN 5 MONTGS AGO
The undertow spillway rework was on April 18th. At the latest, this clip is almost 3 months old.
I'm starting to understand more and more why Nintendo has such strict tournament guidelines. It's because their communities can't act normal for a minute.
True ☝️
Another problem is, it's not even just nintendo communities. It's gaming communities as a whole. Witch isn't any better because that just means issues like this are widespread to a stupid degree. and that unfortunately includes some people in our communities
@@theclown2257gaming has always been pretty toxic in general.
@@PRINTORO yeah. Cod lobbies aren't exactly know for spreading positivity in game chats. Obviously it's not everyone in the community but saying that is sorta deflecting the problem. Regardless of how many people it actually is, that side is loud enough that's its a notable problem
sadly true.
As a queer person, splatoon is one of the only online communities that feel safe and welcoming. The fact that POC cant find that same safety in this space is so upsetting. ESPECIALLY knowing how widespread this is and how long this has been going on. The fact that some of the leaders of our community are engaging in this behavior is so disgusting.
Here I thought the community itself was a safe haven for mostly everything and everyone and like, that's what makes this really heartbreaking, for at least to me, knowing that there's THESE types of people in the community itself.
Said this on another video Ken made, but as a straight white female with autism and ADHD, this and the screen situation made it apparent this community only is super accepting to queers. Lots of mental and racial issues are ignored or written off
Hell, as a queer person, you only get to feel safe if you construct yourself that group. The overall Splat community is barely better than your run of the mill cod community.
@@gh0stgarbage the only thing is I've never came across a single hateful person in the splatoon community, because you either are really lucky or they're very rare to come across and you have to look hard
Black people are the pillar of the western splatoon community, from comp players to content creators and tournament organizers y'all are out there keeping this community alive. I hope jackpot takes a long hard look in the mirror and works on themselves. This is so foul.
THIS!!!!!
Kyo. Ken. Dude. Etce. Alphastar. I could go on
@@polygawnKiver, Capt. Astronaut, JayMoji
@@splashofazure oh my god i missed so many 😭😭😭😭
Jaymoji my beloved
I’m not black, but I am POC (Asian) and this deeply disappointed me. Jackpot was a team I looked up to and having this come to light is something I cannot comprehend. I’m terribly sorry to all the pain it has caused to Black members of the community and I feel extremely guilty for even downloading the Jackpot banner the second I found out it was available. Racism has never been okay, not once, not ever.
Why is it so difficult for people to be NORMAL for once?
The banner should be removed from the game.
Asians are POC now? Cool!
@@hikaru9624lmao no dude, that's not how things work
@@FledDread something has to be done about it regardless. It's going to look poor to have a banner of racists in the game.
@@hikaru9624 I hope Nintendo replaces the jackpot team with the preset characters, at least the 3/4 of it that were involved in this controversy
I really hate how some people act like being blatantly racist is just a phase every white person goes through when they're young. They knew what they said was offensive. That's why the jokes were considered edgy. (And also recent racism, so it wasn't just a long time ago) The fact that their racism was an open secret in the competitive community is sad.
Not just the white people
Something tells me that Nintendo is not going to add something special like that banner ever again after this incident.
Oh I wholeheartedly agree YUP
100%
Nobody cares about this. Especially Nintendo.
@PatPatych Splatoon CZcamsrs who have never talked about drama within the community are speaking out about this, I barely see the banner now despite it being everywhere when it first released, and I've even seen one or two posts about it in the Splatoon 3 Plaza. People definitely care. Nintendo is definitely going to be making some sort of change either now or for future tournaments, Nintendo at least cares about its reputation.
@@DeletedCharacter That's just your bubble where everyone is hypersensitive and are looking for ways to virtue signal. I see this banner all the time, all the normal people just laugh this "drama" away. You are not the center of the world, sorry.
Its crazy in most inclusive spaces, Black people still get the worse treatment or still treated less in different areas . Is far too common
yo your right
Take it from me, a former Star Wars/Star Trek/Doctor Who/comic fan: any time someone says things like diverse and Inclusive, it means they are the most exclusive, that they are the most racist, and they are the most pandering.
They don't get any bad treatment they just like being victims.
@@MetaKnight964 until "accountability" comes back to bite them.
@@MetaKnight964 wdym i got kicked outta some convention because i got bullied for being too black like what
Someone pointed out on twitter that the clip with the freeza meme is super recent, due to having the revised undertow map and one enemy teammate using an side order weapon. Dont let these people lie and say this stuff was years ago, and that theyve changed. They havent, theyve been saying these things super recently.
I saw that! That’s crazy how almost no one noticed
i noticed, the fact that they seriously had the audacity to lie about (and by extension, downplay) the “jokes” is honestly appalling tbh
Seriously hope they get blacklisted from future tournaments
@@lucasnanami you know they will be black listed.
THANKS FOR SAYING THIS THEIR APOLOGIES DIDNT MAKE ANY SENSE
How hard is it to just... not be racist?
Depends
.q shouldn't be responsible for the action of her other 3 teammates. She should've been the only one on that banner.
@@pizzaroll3356But they all won as a team
@@sand2159 Well true but the recent controversy made me lose respect with the other 3. I maybe into dark humor but there is major difference of jokes contain racism and being racist for jokes.
Some people are just taught to be racist as children
Imagine finally getting the community recognized in-game...and then FOREVER tying that recognition to being RACIST AS HELL.
Nintendo needs to burn that banner ASAP
**becomes cannon**
**becomes racist**
@@galacticp1 Curse of Cuttlefish
Yea, and then there’s the side effect of Nintendo possibly never acknowledging players like this again so they don’t risk a controversy. So not only we’re they racist, but they’ve potentially negatively affected the relationship between the players and devs for years to come
@dylanrice5617 exactly like the smash community did.
I smell a conspiracy theory.
Where's the punchline here? They're just insulting us because... we exist? That's not funny. It just hurts. It sucks that internet culture has progressed to a point where people can think an internet apology undoes what they said. We're not brick walls. This stuff does affect us, far after we read their apology. Especially if we hear it every day, or if people we look up to say it. I can't imagine being a kid in the community looking up to Jackpot and hearing that. Makes me not want to trust anyone in the community.
I really don't get how some people's humor, basically boils down to "[Insert Cultural/Racial Group Here], am I right? :D"
Like, its not funny. No matter what you fill the blank in with, it will never be funny. Like I could say "Man, Racism am I right?" but...where's the punchline...? I just acknowledged Racism is a thing with that statement. Or how about "The ocean, am I right?" Again...where's the punchline? Something existing and pointing out it's existence and how you hate it doesn't make it funny, and dunking on an ethic group definitely doesn't make something funny
It's so awful, Racism is never funny and never has been. Making fun of a group of people's mere existence isn't funny and it's just disgusting. People have gotten way too comfortable with being racist and it's illogical and disgusting. Dark humor can work but, like, this can't even be called humor there's no punchline or anything to laugh at It's just harmful. I wish it was better.
Yesss, and what's even worse is that there are many people who will hit you with the "I'm (insert whatever race), and I don't find this offensive people are too sensitive" which actively fuel these people to think this kind of behavior is ok.
As a Black man who has followed this series since middle school, this truly hurts to see. Many of the things said in these tweets and chatlogs are absolutely appalling, and I'm glad more light is being shed upon them.
Racism should never be tolerated under any circumstances, and I hope more people will learn that comments like these are simply not okay to say.
I want to send a message to all of the people out there who have been discriminated based on your race, ethnicity, gender, or social background. Be proud of who you are. There are people out there who have and will continue to say hurtful things, but that doesn't mean you have to accept those comments. Never be afraid to speak out against hatred of any kind. Even if what you say doesn't resonate with people now, someone will surely find value in it in the future.
Ken, you're an amazing content creator and I appreciate all that you do for the Black Community. Keep up the great work, King!
As a black boy (is 18 boy age?) I just wanna say, don’t be racist
that’s it
Im white but i think being racist is just messed up. At the ned of the day we are all humans living on a big blue rock in the middle of nowhere
*end
@@belvideer22I like big blue rocks (taste yummy)
yeah even when it's "just a joke" like no tf its not because that was just you catching them slipping in wild
This problem absolutely goes beyond Jackpot or "why can't people be normal". I've joined a few tournament Discords and see people treating racism like it's funny because they know it's not something they're supposed to do. Like "oooh you told me not to touch the stove so I'm going to touch it" and not "If you behave this way, it tells marginalised players they are unwelcome, and makes them have to pay an emotional/psychological price to play alongside you". I see queer folk being like "omg this person is so embarrassing, I'm becoming homophobic [skull emoji]" and it's not funny there, and it's not funny when done to black people either.
I'm seeing a lot of comments from people congratulating white content creators who were racist in the past and have since changed their behaviour, and respectfully, that isn't the focus. We should be asking ourselves why people can join the Splatoon community and just pick up racial slurs as part of the vocabulary. There is absolutely a racism problem.
Ngl this hurts man watching leafi play stamper drove me to 5 star the weapon and I would always drop by Jared’s streams. Now it all poured down the drain.
What hurts even more is that ken probably didn’t want to make this video but it has to be addressed.
As a black man I went to highschool with people who acted like this on a daily but who gonna teach them right?
i cant imagine how you must feel rn:(( stay strong man, this whole situation is just outrageous.
Now go find another comp player and five star their weapon :troll: (I hate myself)
I remember seeing a comic on twitter with splatoon characters, squid sisters, saying micro aggressions towards marina. While at first it received backlash, the artist explained that it was about how even your favorite ppl can do wrong. This is a perfect example not to idolize anyone especially those you don’t know. Jackpot had no shame being racist so let’s keep them accountable.
They’re still young and impressionable but old enough to understand what they did hurts everyone. Being educated is important, and passing on that knowledge even better, whether to strangers or people you love. Silence is complicity.
WHY CAN'T PEOPLE BE NORMAL OH MY GOD
EDIT: (Sense I don't think some people read this in the comments.) I want to clarify that this is simply a reaction post and doesn't align with what I would say with further thought. This is a rhetorical question. I think the concept of normalcy tends to skew towards privileged, often able bodied white cishet people, used to box society into a fixed moral structure (mental and physical). I'm also an atheist, but have a habit of saying "oh my God" due to growing up religious.
What my reaction means is; "These people are terrible. I am sorry for those effected and am enraged because of it."
Thanks to everyone contributing all the thoughtful comments!
Rather: Why can’t people just be accepting? Even if you dislike a person, just… leave them be. Is it that hard? I’m socially awkward at times and I know people come to me to start a conversation *on purpose.* It’s really obvious they know that I don’t know how to respond to certain questions (consciously). Just leave me alone if you dislike me for the fact that I’m socially awkward.
It's human nature to be tribal it's *aways* been a us vs. them mentality.
And if it's not race, it's nationality. If it's not nationality, it's religion. If it's not religion, it's ideology.
That being said, knowing our evils will help us mitigate it.
@@BenDover-yv1cw You forgot about gender, a thing people love to make fun of, especially when it comes to the LGBT community
I think it's more of a "It would be funny if I did this" problem even though IT CLEARLY ISN'T.
onggg especially with the whole "monkeys" joke. Like it's not funny at all, just because minorities exist. It's not that hard to not be racist-
Why cant people just BE NICE TO PEOPLE. Like genuinely why is it so difficult?? As a mixed person I've gotten my fair share of racial slurs thrown at me and it's just like...why? What pleasure is it supposed to bring?? I just don't understand it anymore.
SAMEE! Like why are people even like this! 🤍🤎🖤✨
Your first two lines are literally my entire comment on this video. I genuinely don't understand why someone could want to hurt someone else for no reason whatsoever.
not defending their shi at all, that stuff's nasty. but some ppl that came from bad homes growing up (like me) could not care less abt others, cause they been proven time and time again that the other is just another dipshit waiting to ruin their day like all of em before him. "why should i care abt this mf??", that's how it goes.
again, not talking abt their case, just giving an answer
@@Sapphireeyes104 like how do you live your life knowing how much of a shitty individual you are
@@bazooga242 I mean I get that but sometimes you gotta take the goggles off and look around and take a moment for yoursel and understand where your life is, where it's going, and how you wanna change it for the better, bc I believe people can change, but there comes a point where if you're so set in your ways, you're unsalvageable
Idk what to say, this is just gross. Even a community like splatoon, which has so many amazing black content creators and pro players, isnt safe from this kind of behaviour. just goes to show how important it is to listen to POC voices talk about these kinds of things, please keep up it up Ken! We're here to support!
i don't even understand how it's funny? private conversation or not, it's simply not funny, just foul. they must be feeling like shit rn cause this is so stupid and straight up cringe
They just get off of hating marginalized groups
Exactly...like where's the punchline? 🤷🏾♀️
Seeing this makes me think they're genuinely sick in the head.
Is it so hard to just NOT BE RACIST??? I'm so disappointed, but I can't even say I'm completely surprised...
racism is not funny and it will never be funny. I'm tired of this.
The only people who can make racism funny without offending anyone are the creators of South Park
@@bowser3017 I don't watch south park, but if the humor is derived from making fun of racist people instead of a certain race, I can get behind it
@@polygawn from what I know it does both in a weird, shock-value way.
@@athena-love oh :(
Tell that to most of the kids at my school
It’s even worse when you find out that they were trying to hide these interactions until they got exposed. As the old saying goes “Actions speak louder than words.”
Granted it makes sense. I’ve said shit years ago that I am NOT proud of and even though I’ve changed I’m not gonna go around parading those moments. Rather I acknowledge that they were wrong, shouldn’t have happened and now it’s time for me to move on and be better. But the issue here with jackpot is that some of the things they said were recent, and they were still trying to hide it. There was no change going on, just continuous sweeping under the rug
The issue isn’t just racism, its also the anonymous nature of the internet that allows people to say anything with minimal repercussions
this is true but i dont think this applies to them, they are the world champions and their faces are Incredibly easy to find
The age contexts are always important to me in stuff like this. I know for a lot of people, the age or context doesn't matter because it still happened. But it's something that actually separates the Chara issue from the entire Jackpot issue for me. Chara admitted and clarified that he still did it, as a parroting teenager [at the time he would've been fifteen] without context as to what the words actually meant. He's around 23 now, at least. That's six years of time to grow and reflect, and that's how you learn.
Leafi's claims don't hold any weight because the clip on Spillway was _after_ the rework to the map. That's recent. That's 1-2 months ago. She actively contradicts herself and logically cannot claim she was 'thirteen and dumb' when there's recent screenshots or videos of her saying or laughing at these kinds of things.
Q and Jared's statements are interesting, because I do get to some extent where they're coming from in saying that they're not responsible for others' actions. By technicality, especially given Leafi and Madness are _old enough_ to understand I would think, it's Not Q's _or_ Jared's responsibility. But you can, and should hold your friends accountable when they do or say questionable things, at least in my and many others' minds. Doing nothing is doing something. It's making a choice not to bother, because doing nothing is personally easier than doing something. The silence from friends or family when you see or are someone facing something is deafening. I'm glad to see they held themselves accountable, at least for the most part? But it is unfortunate that this kind of thing happened.
Either way, I can criticize them, but these aren't my apologies to accept. I'm not black. I'd rather discuss and listen to my friends and those who are, to understand what they're feeling better.
Considering .Q's word on this, I better not see the team here again.
Well, as a black person, this hurts 💀 i was never really into the comp scene but jackpot (besides last resort) was my favorite team to watch and i even got so scared for them when they started losing the championship. I guess it would've been better in the long run if they did, seeing this. God i hate it here
Edit: .q and Jared don't seem like the worst ones here, but the way Jared enabled someone who harrassed q?? Yeah, i'd be looking at him different if i were her, i think
Why can't people just be nice and respect one another? Is that *really* that difficult?
We’re both the smartest and dumbest species on earth and it shows
Yep! NOBODY should make fun of ANYONE ELSE just for being different.
Ngl, the intro reminded me when a friend of mine asked would I be offended or take it as a compliment, if I was compared to Caeser from Planet of the Apes. On one hand, Caesar is the G.o.a.t., but at the same time, I'm being directly compared to a chimp.
Race jokes should be shit y'all do with y'all friends. Too many of y'all be making them with random strangers, and y'all aren't cool. As Ken said, most people makes the jokes about themselves, to laugh at the pain, and to be honest, some are damn funny. However, most of y'all just cross the line between "Race Joke", and just being racist. If people don't find it funny, maybe stop talking.
Something I noticed with the internet is people treat each other like a lot of the strangers here are there friends. When they know nothing about them. People are too comfortable with just saying anything to anyone.
that's the problem though, it's not just about if you're friends with them or not. It's about if the person on the receiving end is comfortable with it or not. Even with my own friends, there's only so many race jokes I can take before I say "no more" and draw the line. And even if someone's comfortable with it, it doesn't change the fact that the joke is inherently racist, whether intentional or not. I just hate how our culture just suddenly made race jokes okay and even how some of our own people feed into this; it's just a self-perpetuating problem that's getting worse.
I knew the community wasn’t perfect but I would never expect this. It’s so sad seeing stuff like this happen still to this day.
Seeing such racism in a community like SPLATOON where the franchise has such deep themes of beauty and respect for everyone and a large interconnecting world that suffered from racism and actively healthed with the playerbase from it and with many amazing black characters and more
I do not understand at all how the pinnacle of the year's competitive scene of this franchise is tied to such racists, and how these came to be in this game
Perfect timing for Nintendo to take away "posting to twitter" from your Switch.
As a white person in this community I can’t understand why you would say that on a public space. If anything either say it in your head or not at all. No one needs that type of hate. Especially with how much there is today.
You shouldn't even WANT to say it AT ALL?????
@@valenxizaw245Tbf there's also a massive problem with repressing/feeling guilty over analyzing why which ironically causes more racism. But yeah ffs
honestly, people need to know not to make fun of anyone for being different. and i do mean everyone, NOT just white people, and Jackpot.
It's insane how people think they can get away with this stuff.
I didn't know this was even happening
Nintendo: makes game about a the wonder and beauty of a world that is both chaotic but also diverse and colorful.
Fans: be racist
amidst all this upsetting stuff coming out, I hope you and any others affected by this hateful rhetoric are holding up okay and taking care of yourselves. I'm so sorry that so many members of our community keep letting you down and treating you with such a cruel lack of respect, and that even people we should be able to trust to represent splatoon can be so unconcerned with the people around them. it sucks, nobody wins in this kind of environment, but vulnerable people definitely lose and we just have to start giving more of a shit about it. the fact that so much of the racism that came out was public, in broad daylight for everyone to see, and someone could STILL not hear about it happening because of how easily it was dismissed... what a nightmare.
its sad when shit like this still happens in the supposedly "most accepting community"
My theory is because Splatoon 3 is the reason because everyone hated for it's balance and map design, and that's where everything fell apart.
Splatoon is _not_ the "most accepting community".
@@SwordfighterRed hence why i said "supposedly" lmao, because thats what people describe it as
In my experience, any community that boasts being the “most accepting/wholesome/inclusive/whatever”, usually end up being the total OPPOSITE 😞
@@QB_L nah youre right
ive even seen a lot of people who have the "uwu im wholesome" personality tending to be the most vile people imaginable
The ultimate problem I have with the entire situation (which applies to most of these kinds of things) is that are they really sorry or just sorry they got caught?
I don’t want to stir the drama anymore than it already will itself but there are just too many cases of this in so many places that people will be simply sad because they can’t do it anymore. No matter how ridiculous that sounds. It just comes down to how much trust has been lost from that situation. And unfortunately, it is something we will likely never know. I do hope that in the future they can move on and become better people than they have been.
Definitely sorry they got caught cuz it’s just jokes to them
@@SmashtoonGamer I think the larger problem is that this kind of use of racist comments is used as jokes by the younger generation (definitely at least where I’m from) because they think they are too young to get punished for it (ik they are a bit older but it kinda still applies since older stuff was referenced)
It’s genuinely heartbreaking seeing how predominant of an issue racism is in this community because I feel like it’s not very controversial to say that splatoon has the most inclusive fanbase of any major shooter game out there. The fact that title is given to a community that still has top players acting like this is just.. why is the bar in hell
literally started playing in November. my frist time getting into the series and i find out the team who wins the championship hates us. we r the butt of jokes. they not like us frfr, kendrick was right
This whole thing is “You not a colleague, you’re a fucking colonizer” taken to its fullest extreme
@@abaddon1503jackpot arent colleagues fuck those guys
ik this is going to come up in comments but please don’t say “All lives matter” the point is about how the racism is towards black people obviously everyone matters but in this fked up situation it’s about how the racism to the black community.
Racist: ALL LIVES MATTER!
Us: Black people's lives too?
Racist: 😬 wellllllll
They literally refer to Black Lives Matter as BLM only because their subconscious knows being against a movement literally about protecting human lives is messed up...
Exactly; I’ve heard an analogy of saying “all lives matter” to giving everyone bandages even though one person needs it, or sending a fire truck to every house on the block even though only one is on fire rather than immediately going to the one on fire, which is the reason it’s necessary to say #BlackLivesMatter.
They know that, they just wanna feel like the victims
If anyone says All Lives Matter…. They just don’t like black people. It’s as simple as that. It always has to be about everyone else. Because GOD FORBID a black person calls out someone for being racist, esp not a white person, but other POC!!
Parappa the rapper profile picture spotted >:)
Just remember, everyone, do not judge the whole Splatoon community by this.
Saying that this situation sucks is a huge understatement, and there are absolutely way more racists in this community than there should be, but this side of the community is a very loud minority. You should never generalize a whole community off of its worst people
It's "There should not be any racists in this community, and the fact that there are multiple in a team that so many people looked up to is a problem", not "The Splatoon community is racist"
I don’t want this community to become another gacha situation
This comment is why the video is titled the way it is
the splatoon community has been really bad for a long time. this isnt a problem of a few bad actors.
“Not all splatoon players” BUT ENOUGH TO BE AN ISSUE THAT SHOULD DEF AFFECT HOW PPL VIEW THE COMMUNITY!!! Don’t do this bad apple sh! Because it’s downplaying the situation. There is no “but” to the racism. IT IS PREVALENT.
@@thelingeringartist I'm not disagreeing with that. Yes, it definitely has an effect on how the Splatoon community is viewed, and I am not at all excusing the racism. It quite hurt me to see a team I had respect for act so horribly.
What I'm saying is that you shouldn't _generalize_ the Splatoon community. Yes, there are absolutely more racist people here than there should be. But it also wouldn't be fair to straight up say "the Splatoon community is racist", because while that minority is WAY bigger than it should be, it is still a minority. People shouldn't get the idea that this is what the _majority_ of people here are like, because there are a lot of really nice people here
I am not trying to downplay the racism, I'm trying to say that we shouldn't go around saying things like "Splatoon players are racist" because of it, because I've seen that happening.
I am sorry if the original comment made it seem like I was trying to downplay the racism, that was not at all my intent
To all the stuff that's supposed to be private: integrity shines the brightest in the dark
"You die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain."
They were never the hero, the paint just slowly chipped away and eventually revealed their true colors.
That Quote from The Dark Knight is very true
@mewa3263 I hate that I thought of this as a Splatoon pun despite the seriousness of it all.
This is a very true and honest statement about this situation and various others.
As a black furry, its even worse in those spaces as well with antiblackness and antiblack racism.
in the splatoon community the first competitive team i tried out for in college, team rose, had a dude in it who said the hard N word on mic and i left the group cause that was just wild to hear casually. the lead member did apologize on that persons behalf but the damage was done.
also i personally dont care if youre 13 or 33 saying these things. the impact will always matter more and if youre younger that just means you had horrible parents or environment that taught you this hate. or maybe they dont monitor what these kids look at on youtube or something thats indoctrinating these white kids into these racist/alt right circles.
irregardless i dont care what the reason is, i dont have to forgive or forget antiblack racism
what does being a furry have anything to do with this? not to be rude but
@DJOpaltavio Issues with a marginalized group (furries) being worse to marginalized groups inside them (black furries). You probably know nothing about the controversy in the Furry fandom, but there are some genuinely awful people that are either p-dos, racist, n-zis, beast... stuff. Literally anything alt right weirdos would like, there are furries that exisst in that space.
@@DJOpaltavio ppl who don’t like furries go to the point where they want them either dead or say other heinous things they would do furries like “hunt” them. They probably included that because of how much ppl misinterpreted and/or hate a furry which could add on to ppl hating them more.
Here from ProChara, all I can say is that this is unacceptable. The fact that people think they can get away with racism like this is horrible, and I wish we could make them see that.
as a black person… i’m starting to become numb to all this racism. it’s incredibly sad too :/ shouldn’t even be that way, and i hate that things are this way.
As a black person as well I’m so tired of these situations that there’s not even a word for it anymore.. I try to be strong but it’s hard at times.
I genuinely didn’t even know this was going on
As a black man( 20s) who also enjoys Splatoon, this news doesn’t surprise me at all. White people (and I say white because that’s who it always is) for some reason, always feel the need to participate in this type of behavior because “ooooh, it’s wrong and I know it’s disrespectful, but who cares, I can say and do what I want with no consequences” that’s the attitude that comes across to me anyway.
If you won’t say it in public, don’t say it in private, because truth always comes to the light in the end…
Thanks Ken for shedding light on this topic with your platform.
I could care less for their apologies, because amongst themselves, in their little friend groups, I doubt things change until they feel repercussions for their actions.
I feel icky since yesterday’s news about jackpot.
I kind of think Nintendo should do something about this, especially with that banner. I dont want the jackpot banner anymore. This is so sad to see happen.
Yeah, someone needs to contact Nintendo to get them to remove it or at least replace it with someone less controversial.
The fact that it happened so soon after the banner was released 😔
there's a template with the mascot player-characters (e.g. veronika, hiro) in place of jackpot's
All I know is that the jackpot banner is gonna have a different meaning from the community.
I'm very glad you made this video! While I am not Black and thus lack the perspective needed here, this video has built my understanding of racism as an issue, not just in the splatoon community, but in internet culture as a whole. And by a lot of comments i see here it seems like many others agree with the feelings you've stated. And while I typically stay away from heavy topics like this now, Im very happy i stayed for this one. Have a good day man! You deserved it!
I feel so guilty for having the Jackpot banner in my Splatoon 3 banner collection. Now I want Nintendo to change the banner immediately!
I don't feel guilty but I do feel disappointed. Such awful things shouldn't be tolerated and dealt with swiftly.
Holy shit, what the hell is happening to splatoon. this is probably why we don't have tournaments often :'(
Splatoon is alright the community just sucks and it'll get worse every time it grows
The community is mostly cool, but the more popular the game gets, the more bad eggs leak in. Kinda like what happened to Pokemon a little. We just have to stick together and make our own circle of positivity! ✨
This is not why we don't have tournaments. Just about every esport with an infamously more toxic community has tournaments just fine.
But man. Sucks to see a bunch of racists running around. Can't stand people without empathy like that.
@@Cool-Vest_Leo But those other companies aren't as focused on family friendliness as Nintendo is.
@@SaltyToad00 True. Even so, I doubt racism or slurs would do anything good for any other company.
If you behave in racist ways, make racist comments, you're not welcome in the splatoon community. I'm so sad that has to be said
At 1st, I thought getting that banner was cool and all, but now after this incident has sparked, I can't remove it out of my inventory.
Honestly, I hope Nintendo finds out and removes that banner.
I did too, and i thought it was a nice commerorative item, but now i am honestly disappointed.
I have had the same derogative phrase sent to me before, and constantly, especially when i was younger. i had an american-like accent when i used to mimic people speaking online on youtube. Being called an "American Retärd" by people who knew me. i am autistic, but i am not American and have never lived there. at the time i didn't know what it meant, but now it makes me cry.
I am so disappoited with Jackpot, and now i hope they never come back to Splatoon 3's competitive scene ever again.
7:12 That is the most disturbing thing I’ve ever heard someone say. Like how do these people think it’s okay to say shit like that.
Honestly it’s something as someone who started playing VRChat back in May… the amount of people joining furry and/or LGBT+ worlds/spaces just to go up to people yelling the N word and so on- is a lot.
I specify those spaces not as the people who fit those demographics being the ones who do so, but the amount of people who hate on furries and LGBT+ people who join end up loving to say some vile shit including the n word. Which makes sense, because usually one kind of hate goes along with another when someone is a bigoted ass. Just at the same time very annoying.
The burger usually comes with fries and a soda…
6:35 the way Ken casually lumps China and Japan together “because its all asia” before going on about how you have to respect their culture is as offensive as it is ironic. “Yeah I dont really care about the differences, its the same crap probably.”
This is straight up ignorance and as an “Asian” I 100% reserve the right to be offended. I have pretty thick skin and I’m pretty cool with cutting people slack so I’m not devastated or anything. I’m just making the point that were all ignorant to our own ignorances and that maybe you shouldn’t assume the worst out of others from their mistakes. Yes, I understand what Jackpot and friends said is much worse, but the point still stands. We all harbor the potential for ignorance as well as change, so maybe we all also should go a little less scorched earth as well.
No, It more means respecting other cultures. I apologize if my wording was off, but that was not my intent. I would have said a similar thing about caribbean culture as a lot of us share similar aspects is all.
I had no ill intent.
@@KenKnowsItyou’re good, I didnt think you had any ill intent in the first place and its even better that it turned out to be more of a poor wording thing. Just happened that the two implied cultures have a lot of bad blood between each other. Lots of Chinese still view Japan as a former oppressor, and Japan has similarly harsh views towards China.
and yall wonder why nintendo dont wanna add voice chat
putz12
They shouldn’t it would turn into a nightmare
We ain't human beings to them brotha, they think of us as basically NPCs. Some of these apologies are garbage btw, not all of them but some of them read as "Oh it was a joke I wasn't trying to be racist but sorry anyways." Rather than, "Hey I said some fucked shit, it hurt people but I've since had conversations with people that has shifted my perspective and I've learned and grown and I am not okay with my conduct and behavior in the past."
I said it before, and I’ll say it again…
I don’t get why people judge others at all, be it sexuality, race, gender, preferences, hobbies, or anything of the sort.
Like I swear they act like people are aliens because of their skin, place of origin, preference, and so on.
Why tho?
Are they afraid of them? Are they jealous of them? Did they go through some past trauma?
So many questions.
Have no hecking Idea
I think they are just sad in their lilfe
People get WAY too comfortable online. I bet you none of those people would bro no that same energy to an irl tournament or anywhere real life
Even in other virtual Splatoon tournaments wouldnt this qualify as a Splat Safety issue? Vile
I have definitely encountered sweaty gamer racism at my locals, and even just as a visitor to smaller tournaments.
A lot of older gamers come from that 4chan gauntlet that dominated the social climate of gaming from classic XBOX days, and that virulent racism is almost a hazing ritual now in locals even if none of the kids are spending time on /b/ and SomethingAwful. Discord and other insular messaging communities keep that culture going by making echo chambers.
It has always sucked for me to be a black + queer nerd on voice chat or in person at cons and tournaments. Splatoon's reputation makes bigoted people a bit less open with their prejudice, but get into the wrong discord server and you end up with people being racist over you having a dark skinned Octoling or wearing the afro. It's always been there unfortunately.
I detest being in the Splatoon Community very often, even if tons of my friends are in it. It's like people can't go a single day without doing something horrible.
It’s sad that people can’t realize color doesn’t matter what matters is your actions don’t be disrespectful to others especially to people that are a different race than you
Hearing that large members of the splatoon community are racist is really disheartening to hear. I’ve always thought that splatoon had one of the most diverse and accepting communities compared to any other game. I mean just by seeing the community posts, you see people from many different minorities able to be open with themselves. So it’s definitely sad to see that even one of the nicest communities like this, struggles with something as horrible as racism.
I feel so bad for Black people or people who belong to other minorities who have to deal with this :( I hope they will regret this!
black people are not a minority. But this is If we are talking about the population of the whole world
@@bowser3017 Oh sorry I am from germany and here it's different (I belong to a minority here)
Honestly it's not that bad at all its just jokes if anyone is truly upset turn the game off don't complain and ruin everything for everyone that's how you get bs like the next game having all black squid sisters or something dumb like that.
@@the.littlest.toasterYou genuinely suck
@@SpinnyMiniiStimme dir zu.
I know what banner wont be used by the comunity now.
Rip to everyone repping the jackpot banner for the last few days (including me 💀), unintentional friendly fire.
Jesus Christ. What can you even say about this? They spend time in a competitive community prided on being inclusive and this sort of behavior has been happening for years?? They were treating their peers and people in the community like this?? It's unbelievable. What's worse is that it's going to sully the reputation of the NA competitive community in Nintendo's eyes. Because of one groups actions, a large portion of this community that are responsible and loving, not to mention all the top players who are people of color, are going to have to answer for their actions. This is by no means the worst thing about this, obviously the antiblackness/racism and how it's affected everyone around them is, but its so frustrating as a person of color who wants to be in the competitive scene that because of these racists, we're going to have to fight even harder to be acknowledged. that these are the people the community has looked up to. It breaks my heart to think about the black players and other players who r poc and how they must be feeling. There needs to be a larger initiative to keep our community safe from this type of behavior. I hope them ruining their careers and screwing everyone else over in the process was worth it for them.
The comp community a day after the devs acknowledge them:
I feel like it shouldn’t matter if it’s private or not?? Like you were being weird and incredibly disrespectful to poc for no reason??? Like in what way was that funny, and how would you expect someone to react???
Congratulations, we're above and beyond Octarians now. All nuance is out the window
I'm a white woman. I cannot relate to racism, but I can relate to being judged based on my gender. It's genuinely disturbing that these kinds of things still happen. It must be so exhausting to be a black person (and especially a black woman). To have your entire identity be a joke to some people, that, in extreme cases, leads to violence and real harm. I don't forgive Jackpot until they show they are doing better, and Madness's silence is basically a death sentence for that asshole.
And here we see again, why Nintendo tries their hardest to supress any form of communities from forming.
imagine being the best team in the world and be cancelled over racism. how unfortunate and i hope they learn from this.
on another topic, my controversial hot take is that this kind of language is never going to go away as long as people are using it casually and yes I do mean even when black people say its ok for THEM to say it. I get it that its ok for them to say it but lets be realistic for a second… people are stupid especially young people and they happen to be in circles where that word is thrown casually, they’re going to think its okay to say it to since they are in that circle.
Its the whole reason why non black people think its ok to say the N word in rap songs since its just part of the song. I get this take is controversial and people who flame me for telling black people to stop using the N word but thats just how I see it until someone can prove me otherwise. I wish black people would have banded as a whole against that word and find a new word that they can use to refer to themselves amongst themselves
It's honestly exhausting that we have to have this conversation constantly. I'm so tired of people passing blatant racism as "edgy" humor. Not to mention people trying to use their age as a scapegoat when they get called out. Can teens be immature and ignorant? Obviously, but they're not little kids they know right from wrong and should be held accountable for it. I'm so glad that you were straightforward in this video because people are so quick to dance around the issue instead of just calling it like it is. I don't get why people are so comfortable with acting like this.
Some of the dates people are saying, are outright wrong and they are lying. Please look at the undertow clips. First and foremost, there is an order shot in the lobby. When did that come out guys? And secondly, undertow has the most current stage updates, when did that happen guys? This is messed up and idk why no one has really caught on
exactly. they have not changed, they have not learned. they should be barred from competing ever again, because it's NOT THAT SERIOUS and it will NOT KILL THEM. nintendo needs to stand up to this despicable shit.
Good on you Ken for talking up about this. I think this matter should be talked about more often and I feel so sad about this😢
imagine going through the effort to become a top player, practicing for thousands of hours and eventually making it to an official major like this only to completely dismantle your own reputation with this disgusting behavior and ruin any chance you had of making it to future tournaments. i know no community is immune to this bs, but it feels especially heartbreaking coming from the splatoon community. thanks for bringing all this to our attention, i would have not known about it otherwise since i stay far away from twitter these days aha
Always appreciate you for speaking up on issues like this, it can’t be easy, much respect ❤
This game series has shaped so much of my life and gotten me in touch with some of the most ride or die friends I've ever had. Unfortunately, the Splatoon community has been very vocal in their disdain and hatred of black people. I've been doxxed, I've been harassed, I've gotten hate asks and death threats on Tumblr, and even thought now I look back on it and can laugh at the absurdity of it all, I still fully left the community over it and just enjoy my own slice of it me and my friends made. Seeing all this with Jackpot doesn't surprise me, but the fact that it happened so recently and at such a high level with a LOT of publicity is utterly disappointing and disgusting. I'm black, and I'm queer, and it's always felt like the only acceptable part of me was the queer part. It sucks.
learning that top players are racist (frankly, learning anyone is racist) feels like a punch in the gut.
I truly hope 777 makes this a serious learning and teaching moment. I expect the Splatoon community to be inclusive to all types of people, and 777 should use their platform to be leaders in this philosophy.
I literally just found out about all this the day before yesterday and its disheartening to see. The fact that things haven't changed is appalling. People need to be held accountable for their actions. I was gonna get the banner when I saw it bc damn, it looked cool as hell, but I'm not doin that anymore. There's literally no reason! Why would I support people that can't even treat others with common human decency? It would make me just as guilty because in a subtle way it's saying "Hey, its okay to be racist and treat others like dog shit just because you're champions and good at the game!" Nah bruh. Just be kind and respect others! IT'S NOT HARD TO TREAT PEOPLE WITH RESPECT!
Why are people racist? I don't get it never got it and I wish they just stopped.
Because some people like being better than others, sadly
@@halb-acht or have some type of fear towards them 😔
They weak. Imagine getting triggered over a simple color. I never understood. Smh.
Jealously could be another reason.
@@nikkonya1187 true
Thank you for addressing that. Hatred is not welcome anywhere.
We can't keep shit like this in our community. We're better than this
i think this, as well as other small things like using dark skinned inklings is just examples of the black community getting disrespected by the splatoon community (which contains many minority groups)
Thank you for shining light on this, I didn’t know this shit was going down within the Splatoon community is so saddening. Shits so dumb and the fact that still people doing this shit in 2024 is crazy. I especially on discord when everything is public and can be searched up
People calling it “drama” feels trivial
kinda hating myself cuz i used to look up to madness. was in every pre worlds stream and supported him on twitch. ordered anchor sweat from him and cherished it for months then found out the whole monkey stuff happened(im black)
I was waiting for this cause just WTF
I usually play devil’s advocate when it comes to some people being ignorant about race. It sound ironic, I know, being a black woman gamer. I heard the clip and wondered if they were just trying to do something related to Freeza because they way they said it did sound like the character’s inflection.
But as I learn more… I can’t anymore. It’s tiring. I just want a place to play games and have fun. Black people and people of color just want a place to play games and have fun and for some reason we have to fight to have that right. Why must we fight for the right to have fun?
"We've learnt to fly the skies like birds, we've learnt to swim the seas like fish but we haven't learnt to walk the earth as brothers and sisters"
really good video, thanks for covering this man, have a good one 🙏🏾
So will Nintendo remove the banner if this gets bigger?