Syahwazz Waz The B20 alone isn't good enough in high rpms, however, using a B20 block and a Bit head you get more torque, a linear powerband and a more powerful engine overall. It just have to be built right and it can last for years.
@@eg6Mugen is it a sign of bad distribuitor? I've many rev counters freaking out on hondas. What part of the distribuitor needs replaced? Are there others signs?
@@mihailpetrovici5044 yes also when rev counter dont work suddenly or behave wird its a comon thing in vtec engines after so many miles and high revs mostly the electric panel inside distributor
Your motor was misfiring during this event. You should take a look at your Ignition System. Your RPM needle spazzing out like that is usually an indicator of a failing ICM.
@@yolsclassics6347 Yes, it was fixed long ago. I no longer own the car, now I have an 8th gen SI. Nevertheless, thanks for the observation, as it would have been useful.
glad to see this video and the uploader is still active. I have the same cams as yours came from b18c. then we put it on my b16a engine, made port and polish head also type r intake manifold. During your Dyno how many HP and TQ did u make?
Thanks man. If I recall correctly, it made 194 HP and about 143 TQ. I had an intake with velocity stack, 66mm TB, ported and polished P30 IM, B16B cams, Jun header and full Type R exhaust. How's your doing?
@@lightspeedX2 wow i just made 170/110.. stock b16a pistons, type r injectors, 62mm tb, full exhaust 2.5", lastly 421 headers locally madee. My tuner said it can reach about 195hp if i will replace the headers and remove the chambered muffler , Let me hear your thoughts?
@Ian agawa My Bad. Those numbers aren't for the B16 setup. Later on in swapped the B16 and made a B20 VTEC. Those numbers are for that setup. With the B16 I made around your numbers, with a stock B16B 4-2-1 header. I don't know if you'd contemplate the possibility of going B20 VTEC, but I'd recommend it. The B16 engine lacks displacement in stock-ish form, and for a daily driver the extra torque from the 2.0 feels great. If not, I'd say a Tri-Y header, and a straight through mufflers would definitely give you good gains (not sure that it would be 25 HP, though,it seems too much to me from just swapping two bolt on parts, but the tuner must be seeing the potential somewhere). I forgot to list these additional parts I had on my B20 VTEC setup: 240 lph fuel pump (after 5-6k the stock one was maxing out) K24 injectors (around 310 cc vs about 240 from stock B16A) AEM Tru time cam gears I could get to 200 HP with another muffler, but I wanted to keep noise levels to a minimum. Feel free to ask me anything else you need!
@@lightspeedX2 Glad that you're sharing this info.. ive been a honda SIR owner for almost 5-6 years during those days i havent been studying a lot on how to DIY mechanical stuff and understanding upgrades on how to increase hp/tq.. Recently I had my civic restored on oem look and had the engine refreshed then I asked my builder and tuner to put on type r parts on the b16a. So yah we had it dyno'd My original plan was to get a b18c block and put on the b16a head. they sad it will gain instant torq :) but the budget was short you know. Yeah totally agree if we go for b20.. what i meant for 421 headers i think its just the same with tri-y. :) my tuner said replace the tri-y with skunk2 alpha headers. and replace the chambered muffler.. ( i told him,, "soon, ill enjoy this set up first) haha. Well What time looking forward right now is how to learn crome tuning.. basics to advance , get familiar with the software. Does your tuner accommodates to teach aspiring tuners? been looking for tutorial videos over the net sadly none. LOL
@@ianagawa9795 I totally understand... I did all that to my setup in a span of about 2-3 years, buying parts, reading and stuff. I now understand better your setup and agree that you should enjoy your new setup first, and then take the steps you desire. My tuner (for that setup) no longer uses crome, since he moved to tuning K series and others, sadly. I agree with your tuner regarding the instant torque coming from a B18/B20 block. I hope you enjoy your car and get the max out of your current setup. Just out of curiosity: Your current muffler is the stock Sir or a type R?
Hello, I would like to know if in this video you had improved pistons or just the factory ones? Another question, would you recommend using ctr cams on my newly tuned em1? I have skunk2 pro series intake manifold, skunk2 70mm TB, double springs, 4,2,1 headers and 2 1/4 catback, obviously I would tune
Hello. I had stock pistons (I entertained the idea of ctr pistons for a while but never did it). Yes, CTR cams are good and reliable, and give you more lift and duration specially in VTEC. However, depending on your budget and the price difference, I would check out some aftermarket cams to take advantage of your intake side mods. But in short, yes, I would recommend them. Had a good time revving my engine up to 9K without any worries. Hope it helps.
@@lightspeedX2 thanks for all! Finally, not to bother you anymore, did you have any problems with the VTEC? Taking into account that in the CTR it started at 6k rpm or literally plug and play would work for me? greating and my best wishes
Hi, no problems at all. Both the VTEC point and redline were modified by the tuner, but for efficiency, if you let the original VTEC crossover target RPM, it won't hurt anything, but you might me losing a couple HP, that's the only issue. Keep asking, I have no problem in answering your question. Good luck with your build!
If you can get the Skunk2 go for those, they are a bit better, but the Type r are a nice upgrade over the stock B16 ones too, specially in VTEC. I changed my engine a couple months ago and now have a B20 VTEC using the same Type R cams, and they are perfect for my stockish combination of parts.
Thanks!, although I was thinking tuner 2, but I'll consider going one step up. Gotta tell you, the difference between this and the B16 is night and day man.
@@grantdylee As Dynos tend to read different, and there are other factors involved, your numbers will vary. But that's an approximate number. Will you be tuning your car or will it stay stock ?
@@grantdylee While it would be ideal to have a bit higher compression, I don't think you will lose power. The Type R camshaft profile works well in a B16. What other supporting mods are you adding? Do you have adjustable cam gears, for example?. With a set, you can advance / retard timing and adjust the cams to get a better power curve. I had AEM truTime at that time (I think the final setup was +3 / -2 degrees or something like that) Talk about it with your tuner.
It really was, man. Later on I swapped it for a B20 VTEC and the difference was quite notable. Now I have an 8th gen SI FBO, which is way better in every aspect.
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God I miss my civic man. Those were the good old days
Yeah man. They were simpler times... I have an 8th gen SI now, it's great in many ways, but I miss my old Civic anyways.
Yeah, I used to have a 93 EG Civic with a modded b18, loved that car. Reved at 9k rpm, felt like driving an F1 car.
Your Tach is jumping, That could be signs of the Distributor going on its last legs. mine did that then boom cant start @_@
Thanks for the heads up man. since I swapped to a B20 VTEC that behavior stopped, so maybe it was the same cause.
is the b20 vtec have more high hp? from what I read at wiki, b20 have less power
Syahwazz Waz atas kertas mmg la rendah bro..sbb tu non vtec..dah custom masuk head vtec tinggi la hp nye
Syahwazz Waz The B20 alone isn't good enough in high rpms, however, using a B20 block and a Bit head you get more torque, a linear powerband and a more powerful engine overall. It just have to be built right and it can last for years.
yea built mine 2 years ago made 200whp 140lbs tq.. Take it to 8500rpm and she pulls nice. Fun daily (stockblock)
i think you had or will have problems with the ignition-ditributor
Why
@@mihailpetrovici5044 because of the rev counter behavior
@@eg6Mugen is it a sign of bad distribuitor? I've many rev counters freaking out on hondas. What part of the distribuitor needs replaced? Are there others signs?
@@mihailpetrovici5044 yes also when rev counter dont work suddenly or behave wird
its a comon thing in vtec engines after so many miles and high revs mostly the electric panel inside distributor
Ignitor
Sounds nice, really low growl
Your motor was misfiring during this event. You should take a look at your Ignition System. Your RPM needle spazzing out like that is usually an indicator of a failing ICM.
I apologiize, just realized this video is nearly 10 years old. You probably had the problem fixed!
@@yolsclassics6347 Yes, it was fixed long ago. I no longer own the car, now I have an 8th gen SI.
Nevertheless, thanks for the observation, as it would have been useful.
why the pop sound produced at 6k rpm? is that a launch control or what? I don't know about everything
Syahwazz Waz That's right. It was a launch control. My tuner set it when we were dyno tuning.
It was a fun setup. Now I have an SI 2007. Love it
It's called 2step launch control
I have a b17a1 with this cam
glad to see this video and the uploader is still active. I have the same cams as yours came from b18c. then we put it on my b16a engine, made port and polish head also type r intake manifold. During your Dyno how many HP and TQ did u make?
Thanks man. If I recall correctly, it made 194 HP and about 143 TQ.
I had an intake with velocity stack, 66mm TB, ported and polished P30 IM, B16B cams, Jun header and full Type R exhaust.
How's your doing?
@@lightspeedX2 wow i just made 170/110.. stock b16a pistons, type r injectors, 62mm tb, full exhaust 2.5", lastly 421 headers locally madee.
My tuner said it can reach about 195hp if i will replace the headers and remove the chambered muffler , Let me hear your thoughts?
@Ian agawa My Bad. Those numbers aren't for the B16 setup. Later on in swapped the B16 and made a B20 VTEC. Those numbers are for that setup.
With the B16 I made around your numbers, with a stock B16B 4-2-1 header.
I don't know if you'd contemplate the possibility of going B20 VTEC, but I'd recommend it. The B16 engine lacks displacement in stock-ish form, and for a daily driver the extra torque from the 2.0 feels great.
If not, I'd say a Tri-Y header, and a straight through mufflers would definitely give you good gains (not sure that it would be 25 HP, though,it seems too much to me from just swapping two bolt on parts, but the tuner must be seeing the potential somewhere).
I forgot to list these additional parts I had on my B20 VTEC setup:
240 lph fuel pump (after 5-6k the stock one was maxing out)
K24 injectors (around 310 cc vs about 240 from stock B16A)
AEM Tru time cam gears
I could get to 200 HP with another muffler, but I wanted to keep noise levels to a minimum.
Feel free to ask me anything else you need!
@@lightspeedX2 Glad that you're sharing this info.. ive been a honda SIR owner for almost 5-6 years during those days i havent been studying a lot on how to DIY mechanical stuff and understanding upgrades on how to increase hp/tq.. Recently I had my civic restored on oem look and had the engine refreshed then I asked my builder and tuner to put on type r parts on the b16a. So yah we had it dyno'd
My original plan was to get a b18c block and put on the b16a head. they sad it will gain instant torq :)
but the budget was short you know.
Yeah totally agree if we go for b20..
what i meant for 421 headers i think its just the same with tri-y. :)
my tuner said replace the tri-y with skunk2 alpha headers. and replace the chambered muffler.. ( i told him,, "soon, ill enjoy this set up first) haha.
Well What time looking forward right now is how to learn crome tuning.. basics to advance , get familiar with the software.
Does your tuner accommodates to teach aspiring tuners? been looking for tutorial videos over the net sadly none. LOL
@@ianagawa9795 I totally understand... I did all that to my setup in a span of about 2-3 years, buying parts, reading and stuff.
I now understand better your setup and agree that you should enjoy your new setup first, and then take the steps you desire.
My tuner (for that setup) no longer uses crome, since he moved to tuning K series and others, sadly.
I agree with your tuner regarding the instant torque coming from a B18/B20 block.
I hope you enjoy your car and get the max out of your current setup.
Just out of curiosity: Your current muffler is the stock Sir or a type R?
civic b16 type-r cams dc squad
How come the revving and acceleration felt so slow?
Maybe because I had the stock flywheel and the B16 lacks torque.
civic b16a variants type-r
ay manuel
You need a driver mod my friend
Hello, I would like to know if in this video you had improved pistons or just the factory ones? Another question, would you recommend using ctr cams on my newly tuned em1? I have skunk2 pro series intake manifold, skunk2 70mm TB, double springs, 4,2,1 headers and 2 1/4 catback, obviously I would tune
Hello. I had stock pistons (I entertained the idea of ctr pistons for a while but never did it).
Yes, CTR cams are good and reliable, and give you more lift and duration specially in VTEC. However, depending on your budget and the price difference, I would check out some aftermarket cams to take advantage of your intake side mods.
But in short, yes, I would recommend them. Had a good time revving my engine up to 9K without any worries.
Hope it helps.
@@lightspeedX2 oh man! Thankyou!! I appreciate! So oem b16a2 retainers works good! I Guess? Well i'll go for them !
@@zairabarrigagarcia9411 Yes!, they work fine... the double springs are a must, though (for high revving safely) but you already have them, so, enjoy!
@@lightspeedX2 thanks for all! Finally, not to bother you anymore, did you have any problems with the VTEC? Taking into account that in the CTR it started at 6k rpm or literally plug and play would work for me? greating and my best wishes
Hi, no problems at all. Both the VTEC point and redline were modified by the tuner, but for efficiency, if you let the original VTEC crossover target RPM, it won't hurt anything, but you might me losing a couple HP, that's the only issue.
Keep asking, I have no problem in answering your question.
Good luck with your build!
nice pull man, i have a b16 and looking towards a pair of cams. i was debating between the type r or the skunk 2. how are they?
If you can get the Skunk2 go for those, they are a bit better, but the Type r are a nice upgrade over the stock B16 ones too, specially in VTEC.
I changed my engine a couple months ago and now have a B20 VTEC using the same Type R cams, and they are perfect for my stockish combination of parts.
cut a 0.25 of ur head deck ARP headstuds new OEM head gasket skunk tuner series 3 and enjoy that combination
Thanks!, although I was thinking tuner 2, but I'll consider going one step up.
Gotta tell you, the difference between this and the B16 is night and day man.
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thats true check my friemds first gen crx stock B20 vtec turbo whit the tricks and todaB cams
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Bro wtf is going onnnn
Your poor drivetrain...
why does the tach jump past 8500?
Ir was redlining at 9000 rpms at that time. however the tach had an issue.
Sounds like clutch slipping
It did not last long, in fact. I remember changing the clutch about 6 months later.
Why that tach so bouncy?
According to another comment, it has to do with the alternator/distributor.
I hadn't another symptoms while I had the car, though.
Where did you get the cams?
I bought them locally from a member of an internet forum. He also sold me a pair of AEM tru time cam pulleys. They proved useful in the tuning process
any dyno number?
IIRC it was around 160 WHP / 130 WTQ. Later on I swapped a B20 block and some other stuff and it made a noticeable difference.
@@lightspeedX2 I am having a 16a stock, with ctr cam and spring so I can assume I will be getting 160hp only
@@grantdylee As Dynos tend to read different, and there are other factors involved, your numbers will vary. But that's an approximate number. Will you be tuning your car or will it stay stock ?
@@lightspeedX2 will be dynoing tune soon, was told I m gona loose power because I am on stock b16a2 compression
@@grantdylee While it would be ideal to have a bit higher compression, I don't think you will lose power. The Type R camshaft profile works well in a B16. What other supporting mods are you adding?
Do you have adjustable cam gears, for example?. With a set, you can advance / retard timing and adjust the cams to get a better power curve. I had AEM truTime at that time (I think the final setup was +3 / -2 degrees or something like that)
Talk about it with your tuner.
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sorry.. that is slow as limping snail
It really was, man. Later on I swapped it for a B20 VTEC and the difference was quite notable. Now I have an 8th gen SI FBO, which is way better in every aspect.