Nampa Airport Incident: What Really Happened?
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Steve was practicing today when he experienced a sudden loss of fuel pressure, which caused the engine to turn off while approaching for landing. He managed to make a hard landing, and fortunately, there were no injuries. We want to clarify the situation and present the facts as they happened.
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Thanks for the quick update Sara!
Wow, almost like a helicopter operation on final.
I'm waiting on Brownie's detailed overview 🧐🤔 At least he will know when Steve's hot rod turned into a no go showboat 😊 Steve is Ota 🫣👍👍👍👍
In this circumstance, changing configuration by removing flaps, might not have been the best course of action. Lowering the nose immediately to maintain airspeed and landing straight ahead(plenty of field as shown in the video)might have provided a better outcome. It’s suggested in training not to change configuration when a situation arises this close to the ground. This is a great lesson for everyone to learn. I hope Juan follows up with a video.😊
Is steve gonna be on an upcoming episode?
Lol! Gives a new meaning to a Flapjack Fly-in.
Excellent personal reassessment Steve! You’ve conquered the stol world, but that is a dangerous place on the back side of the power curve that does not translate well to everyday runways ops. After building my Velocity (N36LV), I got into the bad habit of long, powered finals and luckily one day remembered the words of my first 73 yr-old primary ex-naval aviator flight instructor: “pull the engine to idle abeam the numbers and treat every landing as if you won’t get it back”.
I had to good luck of having retired Naval fighter pilots as my flight instructors. I use multiple because I flew with all three of them and that was impressed on me every landing. 1/3 on the down wind, 1/3 on base and the last 1/3 on final. No long drawn out finals. And, we use charts back then, and do not use the term maps, they would get all over me for that.
Amen to that!
No prop strike, No bent fuselage, empennage,left wing and gear leg. Most importantly, no injuries to the King of STOL! Thanks for the vid Sara!
I had the same question that Sara asked about the slow landings. I suspected the answer that you gave and have a huge amount of respect for the self reflection that you offered. I’m glad you’re safe. Take care.
Glad Steve is OK. Super good of you to share what happened as this will help others be safe.
Thanks for the update, Sara. Of course, we're happy Steve is okay, and that Yeehaw 8 can be fixed. You all are in our prayers.
Glad just a couple bent parts and easy fix! So great to hear Steve explain why the hard landing…..was questioning at the beginning how someone so great at stol landing can have a hard or bad landing but after hearing him tell why, it really opens your eyes to how and why the situation happened the way it did. Thanks for putting out the video!
Very much eye-opening
I am relieved after seeing this report. Thank you for posting this. Everyone was smiling at the end.
Thank you Sara for keeping us updated. It's so sad to see YeeHaw #8 lying there bent up. The important thing is that Steve is okay. Give him a hug for me and if there is anything I can do to help, reach out to me and let me know. God Bless all of you.
Great job on the quick video Sarah, we are so glad Steve is ok and very minimal damage to the plane. This whole video is such a great reminder for all of us when practicing STOL. Thanks Steve and Sarah for putting yourselves out there and sharing your story. I can’t believe there are people out there that can make negative comments in a situation like this. You are incredible people, don’t let them phase you. Hope to see you guys soon, Shane & Michelle 🇨🇦
Steve, sorry to hear about your incident. Glad you’re safe with minimal damage. You’ll be back in the air shortly to inspire all of us with your incredible talent. Sara, thanks for getting ahead of the story and sharing it with us.
Thank The Lord that you are safe… This is a good learning experience. Thank you for being willing to release a video to the public.
You’re a good man Steve for taking the time out to hug Sara.
Happy Steve is ok. Glad to see just minor damage. Hope you guys stay in hood spirits!
Glad your dad is ok, the machine can be fixed, dads are irreplaceable!
ps, your dad is one of the finest pilots at what he does, I have followed him for years. G’day from the land of Oz 😀
That was quick! Thank goodness he's alright and hopefully the vid stops some of the speculation going around.
I absolutely love the debrief near the end. Thanks Steve!! Happy everything turned out the way it did!!
Really glad to see is OK . Thanks for the update.
Super bummer. I’ve been in the same situation with all departments. Ugh That’s the worst!
Glad it isn’t that bad. You’ll have it back up and going in no time.
Hey Steve, I had my first power out forced landing in 28 years the other day, while I was dead sticking it into a hayfield, one of several I could have used, I picked the one that offered the best concealment from any passerby, even though it was furthest away. It turned what could have been a minor local media event, (no damage, flew it out the next day) into a nothing burger. I could feel your pain over all the unwanted attention!
Perfect! I helped a pro do this twice now, we swapped out a main gear leg once ( fuel exhaustion) and a carburetor once. Both times it was just a matter of calling the farmer asap. No fuss no muss.
Great to hear that Steve is well. Love this channel and Steve’s ingenuity and competitiveness. Best of wishes and thanks for all the great content.
Big embrace to you and your Dad! I have tears of joy for you both and your Mom and Josh. The after event assessment by your Dad is something every pilot needs to hear and be reminded! Time to rebuild and take those lessons to make for better aviation! Blessings to all of you!
Tim, what a great guy and wonderful words of encouragement. " Glad your okay, that's the important part, right?" ABSOLUTELY.
Happy to hear Steve came away okay...thanks for the update..
Thx Sara for the coverage...glad Steve is OK and there's minimal damage to the plane.
I know it can be emotional for incidents like this involving your dad however, you're strong and with your support , Steve will get er flying again.
This is a great video. I know it was hard to make and emotions were high but the interview with Steve in the hanger after everything was put away was the most important part to help others stay safe. Amazing job at putting it all together. Thank you Steve for the honest assessment of the outcome and events before the airplane landed. The realization that you have not practice things you have practiced before to help keep you and the airplane safe is key to others as well. As an instructor I stress a lot to other pilots the importance of slow flight and stalls and maintaining aircraft control in sticky situations or emergencies. To hear that from someone so highly recognized just shows that it can happen to anyone. Thankful your ok and can share your story to fellow aviators to try to help others stay proficient and safe. Keep on keepin on. Thank you to the Henry family! Look forward to seeing you at the next one!
exactly right. Yes, Steve… thank you for sharing.
Appreciate the quick update! Glad Steve is safe!
Blessings to all......
So humble! Thank you for making this video and I think Steve is an amazing guy and I love how he's all about talking about it. So many pilots want to hide these types of things but reality is these things happen.
Great work telling your side of the story. So glad no one was hurt. On a bright side “YEE HAW!!!!”
Thanks for the update Sarah, glad everything turned out good in a bad situation.
I'm sure Steve will get to the bottom of it pretty quick and may even put some redundancy in it so it won't happen again.
I'm certainly glad he is ok
glad you are okay, with minimal damage to YH8. lesson for all of us not to break our own rules!
I love your honest assessment perspective of what happened. …we are constantly learning. Glad you are safe.
Humble, knowledgeable and honest. Great attitude, Steve! Glad it went as well as It did ❤
SOOO happy you are OK Steve & Family! 😍😍😍
Really great learning moment regarding flying on the edge and knowing your airplane. We can all get complacent at times and it looks like this was a case of valuable learning at a low cost. Glad all is well.
Just seeing this, so glad it wasn’t any worse and that Steve isn’t hurt. Lots of help too with Tim nearby.
Bummer from Minnesota... I'm glad he's OK and the plane will fly again. I am also glad he has learned a couple of things and is willing to share those things so that others will learn from what happened.
Such a relief!! Thank you Sara for having the presence of mind to video and explain what was going on and what happened. So thankful Steve is okay and YeeHaw 8 will be back to her awesomeness soon!
WOW, the amount of LOVE that Cathy has for Steve is wonderful. That is all that matters. Steve and your Mom square dance with the same circle as my uncle.
I lost fuel pressure on final once in my Glastar (auto engine, fuel injected); It was because of a long 'lazy' circle to final instead of the more usual downwind, base (level flight for a bit) then final. I was on the wing low tank and the tank was low and sucking air; the small header tank ran dry and the engine died. It did not end up in an off airport landing luckily and I got the tank switched about 40 ft off the ground. Glad you made it without bending yourself up. :)
I'm going to take a wild guess and suggest that this may have been the problem Steve had. Once air enters the fuel line it takes a long time to remove it from the system especially if the pumps in the system are not gravity primed and the sumps that feed them are not well guarded to prevent fuel un-porting.
@@stevemacica5345 How long it takes to clear the air is usually quite quick (2-3 secs) on modern fuel injection systems with return lines. My system circulates 28 gph continuously. But mine are gravity primed because of the high wing. Kitfox header tank system (no idea what that is) would play a big part in this type of fuel issue.
@@BrianGochnauer The recirculation works great for pushing the air through quickly and has the added benefit of carrying vapor lock producing calories of heat away from hot fuel system components. On your recirculation system, does the recirculated fuel return to the main tank in the wing or to the small header tank? My guess is that it is going back to the main tank in which case this defeats the "guarded sump" function of the header tank(you basically pump your header tank dry once the fuel un-ports in the main).
I'm a random sampler of general aviation and an aspiring sport pilot building a Sonex two-seater. My father flew a Cherokee 180 for a few decades and I rode with him a lot. Fortunately never had an engine out situation, but did have one of two magnetos fail shortly after climb out for an hour flight. Turned back to get it fixed before going any further.
Damage -wise this doesn't look too bad. And, while corny, as the saying goes, any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.
Glad Steve's okay. And thank you Sara for the heartfelt video. We all look forward to more Yee Haw in the future.
Hi Sara, I’m sooooooooooo grateful your dad is okay!!! What a pro! He’s pretty much at the top of the STOL game yet still humble enough to say he needs to reassess his approach in order to avoid hitting hard again. He’s not blaming everything under the Sun like some would do, but rather talking about what he could’ve done different. An awesome example all around. I really love how close y’all are too. Hang in there! 🤠👍
I'm glad that you asked the question about the Why of a hard landing.
I, too, was confused based on his STOHL experience.
Great to see Steve in good spirits
Happy to hear it's pretty minimal damage wise and you weren't injured!!!
Great outcome! Crumple zone worked when all else failed.
Check that motor mount/firewall! It's pretty stout if it's still straight.
Thank you Sara
For the update and So glad Steve is fine!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Great assessment from Steve at the end. I like what he said about practicing dead stick landings. I flew my glider out of Nampa four days ago. A few guys were going round and round in the pattern. I gave some time to the C172 on downwind before announcing my downwind for 29. The C172 next announced final right when I was ready to call base! He was a little less than two miles out base to final!!! If the C172 engine had quit then he would not have made the airport. Not even close. If you can't make the airport if the engine fails then your pattern is too far out.
Very glad that your father is ok , stuff happens to the best of us. The damage to the plane was minor, and the fact that he was able to debrief the scenario and point out changes to make his flying safer it the future. May his parts arrive quickly and he's able to figure out the fuel situation as that's gonna be important to resolve. Hoping your winds are calm and skies always blue, and you are blessed with many more years of flying. God Bless
Prayers sent..... Now stop that! Thank goodness Steve is OK!
Very glad he is ok! Awesome info and good things to keep in mind when flying!
I'm glad your dad explained why a STOL landing wasn't possible with the engine out. That makes a ton of sense when it's explained.
Glad Steve is OK!!!!
Rare to find that level of talent paired with such humility and humbleness. Power loss at 100 feet with a stol type approach is not something I ever want to experience.
Steve, we’re all ecstatic that you’re well and uninjured. God bless you, sir. You’ve got God-given talents that might’ve been much worse for most for most… You’re doing good we appreciate you sharing. It gives us insight and education on how we might avoid the same thing.
Steve, I am so happy you are OK. Made me want to know more about the systems on my plane. You also mentioned that you used to practice "engine off" approach and landing. That is something I need to consider as well.
Hi Sarah, Glad your dad is ok and that he walked away from this, thank you for the update. 😊
Glad to hear he is okay. Tha k you for the update
This shows how important it is to practice emergency procedures. Glad Steve is ok. Hope to see it fly at the STOL competition on the 6th and 7th.
Steve, I'm not an airplane guy but I love you and your airplane. So glad you are okay and your plane sustained only minimal damage.
This couldn't have turned out better (assuming it had to happen at all). Minimum damage to the aircraft and maximum opportunity to assess, learn and improve.
The questions you asked were very good . He was reminded of his own rule and that he deviated from it . Reviewing your procedures and knowing that it is important to revisit some procedural train/practice is always good . 😊
Thanks God, no injury! Good reflection about the landing precautions! So happy everything is fine! Great video Sara. Don't worry you are doing fine with this stressfull event.
Steve, Sara, thank you for the quick update. Glad to hear Steve is okay. Knowing Steve, he will have Yee Haw 8 fixed b next week!.
Not that I didn't already have a huge amount of respect for Steve before but his attitude and response to this really solidified it for me. A lot of people with his level of experience in something tend to feel they can do no wrong, and can't own up to their mistakes. But here we see no ego, Steve reflected and recognized he was breaking his own rules (can happen to anyone, no matter how careful you are), and committed to getting back on the ball with his safety. Great fucking pilot! Even got the plane flying again just enough for minimal damage, to himself AND the plane, when the average PPL holder would probably panic stall into a backbreaking belly flop.
This is the problem with STOL approaches in very light aircraft. If the fan hiccups you land pretty much straight down - under control or not.
I learned to fly in J3/T-Craft/Chief, etc. from rough back country runways. Airspeed and altitude are life.
If you don't have altitude you better have airspeed.
Steve did a good job with what little he had.
Thanks for report. Glad it worked out. In an emergency you do want to land near min speed but having 5 or 9 kts extra to play with is handy.
Thanks for the learning opportunity. It makes a difference.
Read on some of the FB pages how these Yamaha engines are not reliable. So happy to hear Firstly that Steve is ok and second that the problem wasn't engine failure but just fuel delivery issues. Your dads ok Sara, thank god. Thank you for the quick update, that should keep the media from spewing rubbish.
I had a Yamaha R1 with over 20,000 miles mostly on the track at high RPM. Valves were in spec and didn't need adjustment, the motors are very reliable.
Do you think Steve would use or endorse an engine that is unreliable?
Steve sounds like a very competent pilot. I think his analysis of the loss of thrust at idle after the fuel pump quit was very logical. Having the presence of mind to quickly retract those "draggy" flaps at such a low altitude may have been a major factor in limiting the severity of this mishap. I'm glad to see Steve's OK, and I hope he flys again soon!
In the video Steve ran the pump so I don't think the pump "quit". He states that he lost fuel pressure. I'm just guessing but the pump could have vapor locked due to an un-ported fuel sump(as a slip can cause).
Excellent job walking away. You'd have a feel for how much idle thrust you have from ground operations.
What you can consider, is those geared props can have huge diameter, and when combining that with three blades, they make a tremendous amount of drag, power off. And climb and descent are a function of (T-D)/W.
You would know how much powered lift you're getting at idle, if that was a factor.
Either way, you know how to figure it all out, and how much to increase approach speed when passing through the stall/spin altitude band.
Congrats on the controlled hard landing.
Thank you for sharing. Learned so much just with Steve’s explanation. Going to practice those engine outs! -Blue Skies!
It’s good to be in a sloooow plane with long legs and biiig tires! Glad to hear everyone is safe! Wish I was there to help get the plane back flying.
My guy reaction was how valuable all that flight time at the edge of stalling was in reacting to this “incident.”
So glad everyone is ok.
Glad to hear Steve is well and that Yee Haw 8 will fly again.
Glad Steve is okay! Thanks for the update. Facts are awesome!
Good to hear you’re fine and the damage is easily repairable. Thank you for the honest debrief.
This scenario sounds like the exact reason why we are taught to aim at the touchdown zone instead of the numbers. Aiming for the end of the runway reduces your options if something unexpected happens.
Just shows how Aviation is a community🙂
thanks sara for the update glad steve is ok. i was in an off airfield indecent similar damage but it was on a deserted island so i know the feeling.
What an amazing and touching video. I'm not familiar with the channel but I fly an experimental aircraft so I can relate to these issue. I don't know your name young lady but you created an educational and moving video here. Great job. Subscribing now...
Glad this legend is still here 🙌
Glad your dad is OK Sara and that Yeehaw is repairable. Good analysis of the cause too.
Steve, so thankful you are ok. Trust you will be able to make the repairs without difficulty. I’ll be interested to hear what caused the problem.
Glad steve and yehaw 8 will live to wow us all again!
Do you think this will change the way you approach?
"I think it needs to a little bit"
excellent response! Good stuff!
Thank God he's safe! ❤️ I live close by the airport, and I can't tell you how much my boyfriend and I love watching the planes from our backyard. Your Dad's plane is one of my absolute favorites!
Steve, Sir, you are a class act, and thank you for talking about this incident
Thanks for the update! Glad he’s okay!
Your emotion and Love for your dad really comes through. God bless and best wishes!! Thank you for the update.
I AM really glad you're okay, Steve. I appreciate the honest pain you must feel at realizing how complacent you became concerning dead-stick landing practice. Especially with a different plane than your last such practice. It would be interesting to see a comparison of dead stick performance with the three- and five-blade props. Last video I saw, you were using the five blade in a competition/demo, and I see that you switched back. Why? Just curiosity - I've got no dog in the fight! And I felt for you Sara, and your emotional distress during the whole incident. My brother was uninjured in a bicycle crash years ago, but it made me feel physically sick to see his poor wrecked bike afterwards, so I can begin to understand your distress. And, BTW, seeing your mother's face I instantly knew she was your mother - your faces are (no surprise) so similar. You will grow older gracefully, as she has!
It’s great that your all ok . Thanks Sara
All the best Steve
Thank you Lord for the Angel that you have watching Brother Steve's back.
🙏🏻🙏🏻
Glad you are OK! Hoping for a quick turn around.
So sorry for all yall! Know your loved!!!
Many years ago, while attempting to land an Xair Standard in a field next to a restaurant, Capt'n Ted decided to try a different approach: fly through the opening between two lines of trees so he wouldn't have to taxi so far back to the parking lot. Well, due to the proximity of the trees and certain perceptions of how fast he was going, he let it get a bit slow. It hit hard on the left main on an upward slope. Took the left wheel away, clean as a whistle. We skidded along for a spell and finally came to rest at the edge of a frog pond.
Here's the kicker. Nobody seemed to notice. No police, no fire trucks, no FAA, no sheriff, no news channels. Nothing. However, one old hound dog came trotting by, greeted us briefly, and then he too went on his way.
We swapped out the wheel the next day and he flew it home. End of story. Thinking back on a lot of the things we did, I feel fortunate to have survived. But it was a lot of fun! And the fish sandwiches at the restaurant were only a tad short of wonderful.
Thanks for sharing and thank God Steve is OK.
Glad you're ok Steve
The prop not only builds thrust but if it's not spinning is a huge air brake! Glad you made it through it sounds like you were breaking into a stall
Basics: It is even greater ari brake when it is spinning without power.
@@MikkoHamunen that's an argument I won't touch lol both are bad what ones worse at that moment really doesn't matter
I'm not sure if I am qualified or correct in my thoughts here as I am only a glider pilot, though I have an r/c Aviat Husky model and enjoy doing STOL approaches with that. I'm not sure the pilot should be beating himself up too much over this one and I think there is a difficulty here that I'd be interested to hear how you fix. Because there are situations in flying where in order to do what you do you are 'in debt' to an engine. If the engine quits at a critical point when you are doing an extreme STOL, you may not have sufficient height - no matter what you do - to turn height into sufficient speed/energy for a smooth flare/touchdown. The piloting solution would be to not to get into those situations, but then to do that you have to give up the (STOL) flying you set out to do. Maybe I'm wrong with my line of thinking but I'd be interested to hear what those who do this kind of flying think. As an aside, my brother, a pro heli pilot in Canada, many years ago had to accept a very hard arrival / crash when he suffered engine failure over a ravine and did not have enough height or energy in the rotor to both autorotate to a landing spot as well as being able to flare the craft for a smooth touchdown. One thing that definitely wants looking at in this case is why did the engine fail - there might be useful lessons to be learned there. Anyway, I'm glad everybody (and the plane) is OK 👍