*Install was easy **fireplace.homes** good although I personally had some difficulty with the thermostat I had. Issue was mine though, not realizing that electric heaters couldn't use oil thermostats. Tip: If you are using an external thermostat, run the power to the thermostat, not the unit. Once that was squared away it worked great.*
I just moved to Cedaredge, beautiful place, and I have these heaters here. I'm from Florida and have never seen anything like these heaters (or anything really, this place is fascinating) before and didn't know how to set up my furniture. Your ProTip at the end with the brick for 'Rule of Thumb' measurement answered my question better than I could find anywhere else. Keep up the good work.
I was looking into how to determine if my thermostat was bad or the baseboard is bad. Both are original with the house (1970), and you just convinced me to just go ahead and replace both anyway. :)
You just need to keep them CLEAN and replace faulty parts. The new technology hasn't made any advancement in efficiency, only changed the design. The function is the same.
I was just wondering what I should do about the couch touching the baseboard I just installed. Thanks man. Good info and very understandable. I appreciate that big time. I'm gonna get something to put behind the couch to prevent touching and show my wife to please not burn me and the kids down with the house 😜✌🏻👌👍🏼
An ohm meter tells you a lot, but it's based on watts x length of units, assuming you know what they might be rated for. Otherwise, yes replace, but if you have not done this before as an electrician, I would not attempt this.
I have an old baseboard heater that has a switch on the unit (mechanical non-programmable thermostat). My problem is that the heater will not turn off when it is in the off position. Do you think I should replace the switch, or replace the heater? Other info: It recently tripped the breaker with a loud sound similar to a gun shot. I saw that the hot wire had touched the ground, but nothing appeared damaged. I insulated the areas and put it back together. It heats great, but won't turn off.
Sounds like you have a single pole. Single pole do not have a positive off. Honeywell came out with some digital line voltage thermostats for electric baseboard. TL7235A1003 non-programmable TL823....... is the programmable model of the double pole models. Double pole also have 4 wires, single pole 2 wires. They also make a single pole version.
i installed a new baseboard heater but it is giving off barely any heat. when i bought it , it was running fine. now theres barely any heat coming out of it do you think its a thermastat
Great video but how has the efficiency changed? I was trying to find out the difference from mounting the control on the base board heater or the wall.
Efficiency is also based on age and usage of devices. The older they are (30 yrs plus) the more carbon build up on the contacts of the T-stats and therefore the voltage will drop. Resistance creates unwanted heat through the device. This makes it harder to use the heaters. Energy that is unused and or not clean will cause your bill to go up, not to mention if the T-stat is flaky. Kinda of like a fluorescent light and no bulbs or bad lamps, so low lumens and you are still paying for the transformer to be on.
Nice Video. I got issues with my baseboards, I think they are causing My thermostat to fail.. I wasn't sure that was possible, But watch this video, I guess it is.. Baseboards and thermostats are cheap,, I'm gonna replace them all, for a nice brand new system.. There's really no way to test a baseboard, cuz they are a complete circuit anyways.. so an ohms meter won't tell you anything..
Have you ever installed a stepdown transformer for 110-24vts for newer wifi T-stats do you have any recommendations as far as what transformers are best and or rated for 1500VA load?
***** I just found an Electric heat relay I wonder if this acts as the switch and transformer or is the relay only a switch? www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0037UIZKM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ACP6JMVRXLHJ5
Yes a smart honeywell wifi touchscreen 24v T-stat the baseboards are 120v Im just trying to figure out if I need a stepdown transformer and the switch....Actually could you do a video where you hook a 120v baseboard up to a 24v smart t-stat? I bet it would get a lot of hits.
Should you get new baseboard heaters because new technology is more efficient? And the answer might surprise you, the answer by itself is no. However, new technology is better designed. In terms of efficiency the conversion of energy in the form of heat from electricity energy hasn’t changed. They use a series of resistances to make some heat that it heats the air through convention, then the air will heat the whole room. New baseboard heaters can be more efficient at the passage of hot air. There is the only way of improvement other than design that you can see in these new heaters. All of the electric heaters in the market regardless of the age of release can convert electricity to heat at 100% efficiency in terms of possible conversion of energy by this method. That’s why the replacement of a new baseboard heater is not going to save you energy. If you recall a law of thermodynamics that says energy is conserved between a thermodynamic system and the surrounding. That’s why you can’t do anything else to save more energy with these systems, electricity and watts are the same no matter if that gets from an old baseboard heater or a new one.
Heres what i found out, as far as heaters go the older ones are better becuse though they use a little more power they heat very well and fast and thus have long down times , where as the new heaters take long to heat the spaces and use more power in doing so with little down time so yuor paying more in power for the new.
Frank James If you want faster heat. I would install a recessed wall heater with an open coil design. Besides wall heaters are not as wide as baseboard heaters therefore you have more flexibility as to where you can place your furniture.
*Install was easy **fireplace.homes** good although I personally had some difficulty with the thermostat I had. Issue was mine though, not realizing that electric heaters couldn't use oil thermostats. Tip: If you are using an external thermostat, run the power to the thermostat, not the unit. Once that was squared away it worked great.*
I just moved to Cedaredge, beautiful place, and I have these heaters here. I'm from Florida and have never seen anything like these heaters (or anything really, this place is fascinating) before and didn't know how to set up my furniture. Your ProTip at the end with the brick for 'Rule of Thumb' measurement answered my question better than I could find anywhere else. Keep up the good work.
HOPE IT HELPED.
I was looking into how to determine if my thermostat was bad or the baseboard is bad. Both are original with the house (1970), and you just convinced me to just go ahead and replace both anyway. :)
You just need to keep them CLEAN and replace faulty parts. The new technology hasn't made any advancement in efficiency, only changed the design. The function is the same.
I was just wondering what I should do about the couch touching the baseboard I just installed. Thanks man. Good info and very understandable. I appreciate that big time. I'm gonna get something to put behind the couch to prevent touching and show my wife to please not burn me and the kids down with the house 😜✌🏻👌👍🏼
Thanks for the following, i would put two bricks in front of the baseboard heater, one on both sides. Cheers
Number 4 we making a big money instead replacing one wire we replace all heating system:-)) God bless America:-)))
The cameraman needs a level !
An ohm meter tells you a lot, but it's based on watts x length of units, assuming you know what they might be rated for. Otherwise, yes replace, but if you have not done this before as an electrician, I would not attempt this.
Thanks
I have an old baseboard heater that has a switch on the unit (mechanical non-programmable thermostat). My problem is that the heater will not turn off when it is in the off position. Do you think I should replace the switch, or replace the heater? Other info: It recently tripped the breaker with a loud sound similar to a gun shot. I saw that the hot wire had touched the ground, but nothing appeared damaged. I insulated the areas and put it back together. It heats great, but won't turn off.
I would call a professional for this service and replace both.
Sounds like you have a single pole.
Single pole do not have a positive off.
Honeywell came out with some digital line voltage thermostats for electric baseboard.
TL7235A1003 non-programmable TL823....... is the programmable model of the double pole models.
Double pole also have 4 wires, single pole 2 wires.
They also make a single pole version.
Hi, and how to connect two thermostats in parallel?
i installed a new baseboard heater but it is giving off barely any heat. when i bought it , it was running fine. now theres barely any heat coming out of it
do you think its a thermastat
B
Great video but how has the efficiency changed? I was trying to find out the difference from mounting the control on the base board heater or the wall.
Efficiency is also based on age and usage of devices. The older they are (30 yrs plus) the more carbon build up on the contacts of the T-stats and therefore the voltage will drop. Resistance creates unwanted heat through the device. This makes it harder to use the heaters. Energy that is unused and or not clean will cause your bill to go up, not to mention if the T-stat is flaky. Kinda of like a fluorescent light and no bulbs or bad lamps, so low lumens and you are still paying for the transformer to be on.
How do I identify what breakers are controlling my baseboard heat thermostats?
Thomas McClain if your not licensed, that is a hard one to explain without tracing and getting in to the panel or 240volt boxes
I am so glad I watched this now I know that what I learned in heating and cooling class was completely made up
Nice Video. I got issues with my baseboards, I think they are causing My thermostat to fail.. I wasn't sure that was possible, But watch this video, I guess it is.. Baseboards and thermostats are cheap,, I'm gonna replace them all, for a nice brand new system..
There's really no way to test a baseboard, cuz they are a complete circuit anyways.. so an ohms meter won't tell you anything..
Speaking of replacing beaseboard heaters, might wanna replace the cameraman. Putting bricks behind the couch is a great idea.
Have you ever installed a stepdown transformer for 110-24vts for newer wifi T-stats do you have any recommendations as far as what transformers are best and or rated for 1500VA load?
***** I just found an Electric heat relay I wonder if this acts as the switch and transformer or is the relay only a switch? www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0037UIZKM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ACP6JMVRXLHJ5
Yes a smart honeywell wifi touchscreen 24v T-stat the baseboards are 120v Im just trying to figure out if I need a stepdown transformer and the switch....Actually could you do a video where you hook a 120v baseboard up to a 24v smart t-stat? I bet it would get a lot of hits.
Should you get new baseboard heaters because new technology is more efficient? And the answer might surprise you, the answer by itself is no. However, new technology is better designed. In terms of efficiency the conversion of energy in the form of heat from electricity energy hasn’t changed. They use a series of resistances to make some heat that it heats the air through convention, then the air will heat the whole room. New baseboard heaters can be more efficient at the passage of hot air. There is the only way of improvement other than design that you can see in these new heaters.
All of the electric heaters in the market regardless of the age of release can convert electricity to heat at 100% efficiency in terms of possible conversion of energy by this method. That’s why the replacement of a new baseboard heater is not going to save you energy. If you recall a law of thermodynamics that says energy is conserved between a thermodynamic system and the surrounding. That’s why you can’t do anything else to save more energy with these systems, electricity and watts are the same no matter if that gets from an old baseboard heater or a new one.
My neck hurts watching this
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Heres what i found out, as far as heaters go the older ones are better becuse though they use a little more power they heat very well and fast and thus have long down times , where as the new heaters take long to heat the spaces and use more power in doing so with little down time so yuor paying more in power for the new.
Frank James If you want faster heat. I would install a recessed wall heater with an open coil design. Besides wall heaters are not as wide as baseboard heaters therefore you have more flexibility as to where you can place your furniture.
Open coil... not bad idea
you need a better camera man but other then that it was informative thanks.
waste of time..JMO Fahrenheat hydronic baseboard heaters made by Marley are sold at Lowes and work just fine.
I fell over.
Fire the cameraman ...