GUILTY? Proving Woody Allen's Innocence in 10 Minutes Using Logic
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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2020
- Woody Allen is innocent.
In this video I use logic to dismantle the 1992 Mia / Dylan Farrow allegation against one of the greatest filmmakers we've ever had, in under ten short minutes.
Please watch one of my other videos, that explores his innocence in more detail:: • Video
You failed to mention that the team at Yale that specializes in child abuse cases reviewed this case and came to the conclusion that Dylan was most likely coached.
Yes - I’ve probably mentioned this in another of my videos. But you are correct that this is the conclusion they reached.
Why does nobody ever mention Mia's own brother is a convicted child abuser. She grew up with this person then by her own standards entered into an inappropriate relationship with a man 40 years older than her as a 'child' .
She ivery clearly has a warped mind. How many lives has she destroyed ?
Oh you mean the “ Yale Tram “ was not officially assigned to the case by law enforcement ? You mean the “
Yale Team “ that claimed their notes were destroyed and refused to participate in a court of law ? Yeah right …
@@oriel9347that’s precisely why she was blinded to the pedophile ways of woody !!
It allegedly happened only once, at time when Mia had a party with her friends, all in the same house and many who did not like Woody.
Highly unlikely.
How refreshing to hear someone defending Woody Allen at long last, it's about bloody time. Many Thanks.
You’re welcome
@@logicbeagle 👋
AS wokeness; DEI dissipate people are coming around.
Woody's 60 minutes interview, Moses' testimony, Mia's history of abusing her kids ( at least two committed suicide) left me fully convinced that woody allen is 100% innocent. The recent phenomenon of celebrities jumping on the bandwagon to condemn him leaves me in disgust. These celebrities are class A hypocrites and idiots. I will boycott their movies. I know Woody is mature enough not to let all this shit bother him too much, but the true victim is Dylan, who is manipulated andused by her mother as a pawn for personal veganenace and traumatised for life as a result. This case also exposes a serious problem about this #metoo movement. All female victims are assumed to be credible and the accused men are considered guilty by default. Its not fair.
Agreed.
Thank you
Since the accusation was a one-off and Woody Allen has healthy happy relationships with his two grown-up adopted daughters this isn't 'me too' anyway. There haven't been any accusations before or after.
all women are credible unless of course it's a biden they accuse..then the woman is lying and must be destroyed.
He's mature enough, and a brilliant, very wise and witty man. The sanest of the bunch, as is his his wife. She was part of it all. She's happy. I'm sure Mia hates that.
I admit I wavered in my own opinion about this case for years. I am glad to see somebody defending Woody Allen.
Woody Allen is an odd, detached character. I do not say this to insult him, just to point out that as one of life's oddballs he is the kind of male - they are always males - who is particularly vulnerable to accusations of this kind.
I will concede that his marrying Mia Farrow's step-daughter (Soon-Yi was never Allen's own step-daughter) has always had a bad look to it and so lent credence to Farrow's hysterical rantings. But then Mia Farrow was once married to Frank Sinatra, she was 21 years old, he was 50. Yet nobody today is hanging Sinatra's career and character out to dry.
Mia Farrow is an unstable and irascible person whose own personal failings have slipped under the social radar too long.
It is frightening to see how an unfounded allegation like this can just be thrown out there and - despite three official investigations discrediting it - gain a life of its own.
Thank you. I receive so much hate for my support of Woody Allen that is nice to read a comment that is so articulate and reasoned.
Woody is an odd, detached character, indeed and thus has always been vulnerable to an accusation of this kind. His look as well adds to the public’s inclination to believe most of the nonsense that’s been said about him.
Woody’s relationship with Soon-Yi was certainly him stepping on a grenade, and it’s not something I would have done, but they are still together after all of these decades, and as you correctly point out, Mia has absolutely no room to talk.
Excellent post .! Farrow is literally a psychopath .
the key fact that disproves the accusations is that the day the supposed abuse occurred was months AFTER Mia found out about Allen and Soon-Yi and Mia had already portrayed him as a monster to the kids and, as Moses said, no one would have been allowed at that point to be alone with WA while he visited with the family so he couldnt possibly have been alone with Dylan in the attic or anywhere.
Actually that's not true, you would think someone wouldn't but they do, families are complicated
@@nomanejane5766 sure it's true that "families are complicated", but that doesn't explain away how suspicious Mia's behavior was. Let's review:
*Mia spent 7 months swearing up and down that Woody was a pedophile on a mission to molest Dylan.
*On August 4 1992, two days before custody, visitation and child support were to be finalized, Mia rolled out the welcome mat and invited "The Pedophile" over to her house so he could hang out with his target victim.
*Mia decided to go on a shopping trip and took some of her kids with her...but she made sure to leave the target victim at home with "The Pedophile".
*The next day, Mia 'discovered' that the target victim had been 'molested' by "The Pedophile" in the attic - a straight up xerox of the Dory Previn song With My Daddy In The Attic (Mia was known to be very, very fond of this song back in the late 60's)
*Mia and her attorney then exploited the mandatory reporting laws that pediatricians are subject to in order to trigger a law enforcement investigation.
*The original custody/child support arrangement was cancelled, and Mia offered to make the criminal charges vanish into thin air in exchange for a hush money payment that amounted to three times what the original child support payments would have been, plus millions more for the children to attend college, plus millions more to compensate Mia no longer being cast in Woody's movies.
Those are the plain, undeniable facts. It's even more suspicious that Mia has been careful to only give interviews to journalists and filmmakers who omit her questionable behavior.
@@nomanejane5766exactly !
Mia gave him so many chances when the odd behavior was pointed out to her well before the pornographic photos of Soon Li were ver found . Its clear she never really wanted to believe his off behavior towards hers and his children could ever escalate to pedophilia . Even when she found the pictures of Soon-Li , a part of her still wanted to , try to salvage her relationship with Woody and all because he lied to her . He actually told her it was just a mistake and just sex with Soon Li . She is an actress and used to suspending disbelief and certainly being directed by woody who is beloved by so many . She clearly loved the man like so many people do -but the great works of an artist blind people to his true nature and actions . It doesnt matter that Soon Li was not his actual adopted daughter , he acted and assumed the role of parental father figure to all those kids in the house and he betrayed Mia in the worst way possible -with her own daughter in HS . How horrible .
@@suzannek3493 u know no facts about the case, research, then get back to us
The Yale New Haven Hospital was appointed by the court from Judge Wilk during trial for custody. Judge Wilk favored Mia Farrow during the Trial.
There were three aspects right from the start that pointed to Woody Allen's innocence.
1) He had never had one single allegation made against him of child molestation in his life, other than this one.
2) An accusation of this sort very often comes up from the wife just before the custody battle goes to trial.
3) Yale New Haven Hospital announced that the case was being investigated. Normally when an announcement like that is made, in a high profile case, if it's true, other victims step forward
to tell what happened them. This is what happened to Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein. There was not one person who came forward to state that they too had a similar experience. Not one person.
Besides all that, the attic scene was highly improbable. Lets go to the attic so you can play with your train set while I stick my finger in your butt. Ridiculous.
I had a friend in NYC who worked as a nanny. Worked for Mia Farrow and was offered the job as full time nanny for Farrow's children. This is years before the allegations. It was, or would have been a high paying, "prestigious job. She knocked it back due to Mia Farrows bizarre and unpredictable behaviour.
The courts answered that question after two state police department investigations and an independent experts centre report. But this is an excellent examination. Allen was maligned and defamed just like millions of men after breakups.
Then why was he unsuccessful in taking away Mia’s parental rights as he said himself on tape he was determined to do JUST THAT and worst of all why did he lose his own parental rights with Dylan ? You have to have seriously implicated yourself to have lost your own parental rights in a court of law with all that money , influence and iconic fame in which people treat you like a God sadly . Pretty damn sad how people like you have twisted the most important fad to provide much needed context in a court of law when it was needed most . All the bread crumbs surrounding those cake snakes smell of rot ! . She has never changed her story , despite what the so called professionals at Yale mislead people to believe about Dylans testimony . THE HEAD GUY NEVER EVEN MET HER IN PERSON OR QUESTIONED HER IN PERSON . How horrific they interagated her 9 times and then destroyed their notes and refuseD TO TESTIFY IN COURT WHEN PARENTAL RIGHTS WERE BEING DECIDED ON . ThAT COWARDLY MAN was and is UNFIT to be a Father to this girl . You can see the fear in the little girls eyes in countless pictures and videotape. MOST TELLING TO ME WAS THE TAPE OF HIM COYFULLY PLAYING GAMES IN A MOCKING TONE WHEN HE REFUSED TO SIMPLY TELL A CLEARLY DEEPLY CONCERNED AND SCARED VERY LOGICAL MIA PLEADING WITH HIM VERY REASONABLY TO JUST PLEASSE TELL HER WHERE HE WAS WITH DYLAN ON AUGUEST 4 RTH . IF NOT THE ATTIC , THEN WHERE WAS HE THAT DAY ? SIMPLE QUESTION . IT WAS ORIGINALLY REPORTED BY EVERYONE -INCLUDING MOSES WHO ADMITTED HE WAS NOT WITH DYLAN THAT DAY AT ALL AND IT WAS MUCH LATER THAT MOSES CHANGED HIS STORY TO SAY HE WAS WITH DYLAN . EVEN WOODY SAID ORIGINALLY MOSES WAS ANGRY AND IN HIS ROOM THAT DAY AND NOT WITH WOODY OR ANYONE ELSE -HE WAS IN HIS ROOM ALONE . ALSO, VERY DISTURBING ARE SEVERAL Witness accounts of WOODY having his face in DYLANS lap-ANYONE WITH COMMON SENSE CAN ADD THAT TO THE PILE OF RED FLAG BEHAVIOUR THAT DOESNT ADD UP IN WOODYS FAVOR . SAME WITH THE SHRINK WHO CAME TO MIA FIRST ON HER OWN ACCORD AND SAID HE WAS ACTING WEIRD/INAPPROPRIATE WITH DYLAN , EVEN BEFORE MIA THOUGHT SO . WAKE UP . THE STARDUST HAS BLINDED SO MANY WOODY FANS OF HIS MOVIES . HE CAN BE A GREAT DIRECTOR AND A HORRIBLE HUMAN BEING/UNFIT FATHER TO ANYONE , SAME TIME YOU KNOW .
If anyone is interested in👉🏾the case, but if you are interested in that case, go to ‘By the Way, Woody Allen is Innocent’ or the work of the Woody Problem, and, no, he’s not guilty of marrying Soon-Yi, who was about the same age Mia Farrow was when she married Frank Sinatra. also, take a look at what Moses Farrow has to say. Not all of Mia’s adopted children are alive, several were returned and three died.
@@z17seattle Get a life, buddy!
@@z17seattle "most, If not all of the child trauma experts believed Dylan"?? czcams.com/video/5yp0y85ZNg8/video.html
Mia married Sinatra at 19, Soon Yi married Woody at 27.
talk about twisting things out of proportion . Mia Im pretty sure was not 17 or 18 when she became sexually involved with Sinatra and I dont recall hearing how Sinatra pretended to act as as a Father figure to his partner of 15 years third world already traumatized adopted vulnerable kids , only to betray his partner and slink off with her teen child for sexual gratification . Woody himself said it was only for sex but who knows the truth because he clearly lied about everything It only came to light because Mia found with the explicit pornographic pictures . Talk about trauma !~ wow ! what a snake . only a low life coward would do something like that and then lie about it . SINATRA WAS,nt exactly a stellar human being but even he didn't slink that low . Mia was a very worldly independent, successful working girl by the time she was a teenager-she had a wealth of experience and knowledge . She was making a living and working and holding her own . Soon Li in contrast was known to be very withdrawn and unconfident and likely suffered a lot of trauma . It's unfortunate the Previn was never really a Father to her so she never had any good examples of father figures and was very vulnerable . perfect for Woody to prey on . I can't believe people dont add up the bigger picture .
The fact the story of what happened from Dylan changed at various points is enough to realize there wasn’t anything to the allegations.
Logic doesn't work anymore on people.
Exactly, and that is sad.
and this is why we're in the mess that we're in. people are irrational and don't even think logically about something.
It never did! The masses are illogical and irrational creatures driven by emotion. Just like the hordes burning "witches" at the stake, or the lynchings of the South.
He’s been investigated by two law enforcement agencies and neither found basis for charges. He’s just being ostracized because certain people don’t agree with his life choices.
Didn't a judge find probable cause,but they didn't want to put Dylan on the stand,
@@brando7266 Negative. In Connecticut the DA drew the conclusion that the kid had been coached and coerced, and did not want to subject the child to further stress and questioning.
@@TTony-tu6dm what about probable cause finding,
@@brando7266 The Connecticut DA claimed that he had probable cause but never submitted his probable cause findings for a judge to either confirm or deny. The DA said he wouldn't bring charges because there was too much reasonable doubt to secure a conviction (Farrow supporters insist up an down that he didn't bring charges because Dylan was 'too traumatized to testify', but if you read his actual statements he clearly says over and over that he would put Dylan on the witness stand if it would lead to a conviction, but since it would obviously result in an acquittal there was no point in making Dylan testify).
We'll never know if the DA actually had probable cause or not - he simply claimed that he did, which is like Beyonce proclaiming that She's awarding herself a Grammy. It simply doesn't work that way.
To make things even sketchier, the DA has never said what constituted his probable cause. The fact that he elsewhere stated that without Dylan Farrow testifying he had no case *strongly* indicates that his probable cause consisted of Dylan's accusation...and nothing else. If that's the case it's highly questionable whether a judge would have affirmed the probable cause findings.
God bless you sir. It breaks my heart to know this hard working man is spending the last part of his life ridiculed and mocked. Our culture is sick and has forgotten the simple values that are so important- like respecting our elders, not to mention due-process
I would simply not do this to someone no matter what they did to me, I cant imagine spending my life publicly trying to destroy a person, anyone, for any reason.
Never join a mob.
Finally, hopefully people would see this with an open mind.
GREAT presentation! A lot of this is grounded in other dynamics, i.e., jealousy, anti-Semitism, etc. Mia Farrow is a shrill scold and brain-washer.
yep but she is an incredible actress, it's so disappointing to see how she turned out to be in real life but I still marvel at her acting skills and accomplishments.
@@joejones9520 MAPS are everywhere he is guilty as sin
there are many incredible actresses who do not stoop so low. @@joejones9520
That is not what the court decided. End of story. @@jakeet999
@@joejones9520*And Mr Allen, in my eyes, offered Mia Farrow her most beautiful roles. Personally I’ve always had that feeling she was accusing him of a kind of abuse she might very well have experienced herself as a child… Quite a damaged person anyhow, and a very suitable case for treatment, as dangerously nuts as Amber Heard.
Natalie Portman is a damn hypocrite. She gets in front an audience decrying Hollywood for not giving more projects to women but guess who owns a production company and has herself never hired a woman to head any projects?? You guessed it, poor lil Natalie. I lost any and every bit of respect for her when that tidbit came to light.
People like Natalie are just opportunists seeing which way the wind is blowing. There is zero substance behind the stuff they say for applause.
And guess who has created over one hundred great roles for women? Woody Allen!!!!!!!!!
@@mickberry164, a great point
A very clever analysis of this situation and one I think is correct.
Like Max von Sydow said in Hanna and her sisters: one can only be surprised that these kind of things dont happen more often.
they do happen. well known to psychologists, psychiatrists, and attorneys.
Can't have a logical argument without a dig at a politician you hate...
Lyra74 that bothered me too. Totally unnecessary to drag Hillary (of all people!) into this. And comparing Gadaffi’s Libya policy to child molestation, just stupid.
@@rikihorton5979 Particularly because I'm sure Clinton was not involved with every decision made during her campaign, and the decision to refuse Allen's donation might have been made by anyone in her campaigning staff. There are Woody haters everywhere, both with the Dems and with the GOPs.
It was not smart to include this part about Hillary. There was no need to estrange her fans from your otherwise very convincing argument.
In all fairness, it’s not like the presenter was using the right-wing fanatics’ dangerous assertion that Hillary is a covert pedophile (or, even, that she and Clinton were friends with Jeffrey Epstein). He was just pointing out her hypocrisy in taking the stance of moral superiority, when her hawkish actions have led to the deaths and devastation of so many innocents. It’s not a political point he’s making, but a humanitarian one of parity.
Your defence of a mass murderer, Hillary, (of all people), says more about you than it does about the doc maker!
He immediately shows his hand at being prone to bias. This dude is full of shit
Not guilty! Allen is Great!!!
I have always found Mia to be kind of crazy and the abusive one (a narc) and many of her children would know this and have said so.
"I like to cheat on my stories" - Dylan Farrow
Was that what Dylan told *Dr. Levanthal?*
@@beethovensfidelio It was court testimony from Leventhal. Not sure if it was Leventhal she told it to though.
She’s such a bitch
@@rl12345 It was in the report. I don't know if Leventhal ever personally interviewed her because that's not how the team did its work. But there was no evidence to dispute that Dylan Farrow made that statement.
I’ve never been a huge Woody Allen fan. I don’t dislike him, I just never really got into his stuff. That being said, it’s kind of ironic that child abuse accusations were made after he left Mia Farrow. I mean….pedophiles don’t usually have one victim then leave it at that.
Exactly. If only others could be as clear thinking as you. Unfortunately it’s idiots who control the narrative around Woody Allen.
Thank you sir for defending an innocent man .
Woody was exonerated in a court of law; allowed to adopt other children. What you and I think is irrelevant. Woody is alive and well, living a wonderful life with wife and children in a relative mansion on the Upper East Side and playing jazz wherever he wants. He did not get where he is by being a pervert.
Wrong, there was no trial.
I always believed he was innocent. I highly recommend reading Woody's brilliant memoir in which he shows Mia to be a deranged lunatic who on her best day made Joan Crawford look like Mother of the Year.
Totally agree, but completely lost me with the arguments of the last few minutes.
HC's returned donations and her voting record on international affairs (and humanitarian consequences) are completely irrelevant, as is the fact that a campaigning political candidate cannot afford to be seen as accepting donations from anyone who could give her opponents an opening for deflection cannot be used as an argument for or against WA's culpability.
Likewise, the fact that he's a 'genius of our time' (within the context of his body of work) is equally irrelevant; his credibility (or indeed his culpability) does not improve or decline by his achievements in his profession or by the societal status he achieved in that context.
Those are not logical arguments for or against someone's innocence, but on the contrary, only dilute any proper reasoning.
Having said all that, I absolutely agree that, based on all the evidence available to the public, it is most likely that, in this case, WA is and has been the victim of a calculated smear campaign initiated by a scorned ex-partner.
His innocence isn't determined by how many great movies he's made. The point I was making is how uniquely cruel this treatment of him is, considering how important art is to the culture, and his contribution to it.
WA saw fit to mention the Clinton anecdote in his book, and I mentioned it as part of a wider point about the hypocrisy surrounding this issue. You seem to forget that the Clinton foundation takes money, without any compunction, from regimes that treat women who are raped as criminals. I'd expect some degree of consistency from Hillary.
Thanks for watching, though, and I'm glad you agree WA is innocent.
A nicely constructed argument I think is valid. Woody never committed child abuse before 1992, and neither after 1992. He never abused Dylan in 1992. Dylan either has a false "memory " of this nonadvent, or she was "convinced " this abuse happened to her from an adult. She was ONLY 7 at the time of the alleged abuse, and much is known now how false memories can occur in young people. Woody isn't perfect. Yes, it's not an exaggeration to say he's very creative and a bit goofy, but he is not a child abuser. Period!
I don't think he did anything to Dylan, but his relationship with Soon-yi and Stacey Belkin was predatory. Just because it's legal and consensual doesn't make it okay. They didn't have a chance to grow up or have much life experience before he swooped in on them. Stacey admits she had daddy problems and that's why she was attracted to Woody Allen, I'm guessing it's the same with Soon-yi.
Well said. Sadly this kind of thing gets nowhere near as many views as the garbage spouted by moral crusaders and Twitter morons. And we have to stand by and witness a living legend having his legacy destroyed by hysterical fantasists, liars, trolls and moral hypocrites. Very sad.
Just last week I saw a video with tens of thousands of views wherein the guy states Woody Allen married his own daughter. This kind of *deliberate* falsehood, typical to the WA case, is outrageous.
@@logicbeagle make a video about Ronan Farrow and his Hilary Clinton/Richard Holbrook connection.
@@z17seattle I don't deny she feels pain. Of course she believes it. But she has been cruelly gaslit by her mother, who is a serial child abuser. That's why Woody sued for custody even after the allegations - precisely because they were final proof of her unsuitability as a parent. Far from shrugging her off, he has said how he remains heartbroken at her loss and still hopes for a reconciliation. Mia instead continues her crusade. Her own disgust at the Soon-Yi affair is justifiable. But false allegations of child abuse are despicable, whatever the circumstances.
@@z17seattle Mia Farrow, unlike Woody, has several recorded instances of repeated child abuse. We may never know the truth about Woody, but we do about Mia. So, if you're defending her, who's been tricked by a pure sociopath, you or me?
@@z17seattle The face lap incident. You're a putz.
I believe Woody. I believe Moses. I believe Soon-Yi. We love you, Woody!
I don't love Woody, but I believe him, Moses and Soon-Yi.
@@z17seattle Yeah, that Maco was a joke. That phrase has used for the Farrows like a "prove" of something that never took please. Look, kid, nobody doesn't press charges if there is a case. Maco didn't press charges against Woody because there was NO CASE. Enough with the lie. Read Bob Weide's brilliant articles, Soon-Yi's interview, Moses' letter and all the official reports. The Farrows are a joke and belong in jail. They have accused an innocent man, and that's a crime. And the mob & herd are happy to follow them. Get a life and apologise to Woody!
@@TimeIdle I believe them too. I also believe in Woody and Dylan.
No. It's not a contradiction.
@@devilgod136 - I believe that Dylan believes that she was molested.
@@TimeIdle I do too.
Mia planted that idea in her mind.
I read judge Wilke's decision for the custody trial. He wrote that the investigators for the Yale report refused to testify in person at the hearing and the the notes of the meetings were destroyed. These things made him question the viracity of the report. Can someone please address those things?
Judge Wilke was quite frankly, full of shit.
Wilke was a long practicing judge of the civil courts, and as such he knew that it was common practice for people to submit depositions in lieu of in person testimony.
That is to say, Wilke was clinging to a standard of credibility that he knew damn well didn't exist.
Since his ruling wholesale ignores the in person testimony of Dr Schultz and Dr Coates, who closely examined Dylan and testified that they did not believe molestation had occured, and since Wilke dismisses the in person testimony of the NYPD lieutenant and head of the Manhattan Sex Crimes Unit, who testified that Mia was asking leading and pressuring questions to Dylan during the infamous home videos, as "lacking credibility" without further explanation, it's a little too obvious that Wilke didn't actually give a fuck about in person testimony. He just pretended to care about a nonexistent standard as an excuse to ignore the Yale Panel's results.
As far as the destruction of contemporaneous, interview notes, that's another false standard. It was a somewhat normal practice at the time to destroy such notes in the name of privacy. In some states it was even required by law. The FBI continues to employ the practice to this day.
Around 1996 laws were passed in most states requiring such notes to be sealed for years (usually around 6 years) before being considered for destruction. The Yale Panel investigated the Allen/Farrow scandal in 1993, so those laws didn't yet exist.
Destroying the notes may have been bad practice, but it wasn't scandalous like the Farrows and their defenders want you to believe.
Is this the same Judge that Mia chose to honour by naming one of her adopted special needs sons after? 😂 I believe he was called “Gabriel Wilk Farrow”.
Wait to you get to the part about
Dory Previn and her song “Daddy in the attic” czcams.com/video/lc-BSq0yUQk/video.html
sound familiar?
Written in 1970 WAYYY before Woody had the misfortune of meeting Farrow.
Yeah, as a lawyer in NYC I can tell you that Wilk was a hack who was NOT respected as a jurist. He went into cases with biases and proved that by his fixation on Woody and Soon-Yi, whose relationship colored his thinking but was totally irrelevant to the custody dispute. And even with all the asides, he still had no choice but to conclude that there was no evidence of abuse and granted visitation. It has been years since I read the transcript, but I don't remember anything about the Yale evaluators refusing to testify. He was the judge. If he wanted their testimony, all he had to do was issue a subpoena. He didn't.
As for the destruction of notes, which the Farrows like to reference in order to besmirch a team with an impeccable reputation, it was a regular practice in CT at the time ( and in many jurisdictions today) to destroy notes when allegations of abuse are determined to have been unfounded. This is to protect both the subject of the investigation and the state from legal repercussions if the notes got into the wrong hands. Regardless, all notes were transcribed and then those were used for the final report. So it's not as if everything gets lost when notes are discarded. The Farrows did not like the Yale team's conclusions. So what do you do when that happens? Go after the messengers. Calling that unseemly would be kind.
@@gheller2261 patterns of behaviour are DIRECTLY relevant.
@@lizziebkennedy7505 There were no "patterns of behavior" of Woody Allen molesting young children. There has been a single allegation that was deemed unfounded and the publicly available evidence supports that. A pattern of behavior would have shown that he repeatedly was physical with Dylan AND other children in inappropriate ways. There has been nothing in that regard, including with his adopted children with Soon Yi (which never would have been permitted if there were any real danger, even for a famous person). The relationship between Woody Allen and Soon-Yi or anyone else over the age of 18 was not at all relevant to a child custody proceeding at all, which is why Judge Wilk rendered his typically hacky findings (I am telling you, he was widely considered an absolutely terrible judge and for good reason). You're just icked out by the Woody-Soon Yi relationship so you need to extrapolate beyond that. Hopefully you will never serve on a jury.
Women don't want to hear this !!!!!! It makes Mia look nuts, which she is. It's in her DNA ! Even Moses says Mia was the abuser. Mia won't talk about her three adopted children that died, even by suicide!
fob1xxl - Not so! If she’s guilty, you’re damn right I want to know. I don’t care about her sex. Abuse is abuse.
I'm a woman and I believe that Woody is completely innocent and that Mia & Dylan Farrow are lying. They are just nuts. Both of them. One is insane, the other has a very low IQ, that's all.
@@antoniatejedabarros And Woody Allen was close friends with Jeffrey Epstein, defended Polanski and Weinstein, slept with multiple teenage girls… but yeah, he’s totally reliable, women should all defend and believe him, right /s
@@melancolie83 Oh, boy. Go watch some cartoons, Lula. Bye bye!
3 did NOT die of suicide, 1 did.
It is unfortunate that none of this matters in the court of public opinion. People don't want to read the Robert Weide pieces and they don't want to take the time to watch Rick Worley's two and a half hour documentary on CZcams. Woody "groomed" (whatever that means in this context) and married his "daughter" is what clinches it for people hell bent on believing the Farrow story and not doing any research. 95% of the reviews of the HBO "documentary" buy the Farrows' story hook, line and sinker. The most oft used word is "convincing." Now Alec Baldwin, who plainly has done his research, is being excoriated for expressing his opinion, that he believes Woody Allen. After almost 30 years, I think Mia has finally gotten her way and Woody Allen probably is finished. Now, of course, I cannot say with 100% certainty that this event didn't happen, but in doing the research and exercising the gift of reason based on the accounts given by ALL involved, I am quite convinced that it didn't. I just wish those steadfast on believing the Farrow account could be as open minded.
Why music in background?
Durrr, I'm going to be "LOGICAL" - makes completely biased "arguments" without applying logic. This isn't critical thinking, fair or intellectually honest. It's just crap.
Name one single thing that the content creator said that's "illogical" or that isn't based on facts. (You can't do it, can you?)
Doesn’t matter what they believe. They weren’t there. Read Woody’s book “Apropos of Nothing.” It’s all in there. And Soon Yi is not Woody’s daughter. She was adopted by Andre Previn and Mia Farrow. Woody is a brilliant Director who I have adored since I saw his film “Take the Money and Run” in the sixties❤️
Soon Yi was a child when Mia and Woody hooked up. His conduct was unconscionable. A bunch of sleazy lowlife calling him innocent does not make it so.
Logic would dictate that you considered all of the witness' accounts, not just the ones that are favorable to Mr Allen. Logically you'd also consider the court documents regarding the case.
There are no court documents because the case was dismissed for lack of evidences before any trial could take place. Logic would dictate you did some research before posting. BTW, the two child psychologists who examined Dylan stated that her account had a rehearsed quality. One of them actually straight up said she appeared to have been coached. That's in the papers that made the prosecutors desist (save for one of them saying that he didn't go forward to spare Dylan the stress, which is multi-level bullshit, but those people are allowed to say anything).
@@thermonuclearcollider4418 There are court documents publically available from the custody battle, and there was evidence gathered by the Conneticut state prosecutor that he felt showed probably cause to charge Woody.
There were several adults who corroborated Dylan's story. Dylan herself is a witness to what happened. There is no reason not to believe her.
@@heatherpickett9550 but there're also witnesses, like, the housekeeper witnessed Mia rehearsing Dylan endlessly. And that is not the only account of such manipulations. Everyone who believes this fiction conveniently disregards the adopted children's testimonials regarding the abusive and coercive nature of their mother.
If you really want a thorow analysis of all evidence, which disproofs all allegations towards Woody Allen, I recommend you watch the video: "By the way, Woody Allen is innocent"
@@derTangram I may have seen it, cause I have seen a number of videos that make a solid case, based on facts per the investigation, againts the allegations. I'm totally convinced but I will check it out.
Seems from Mia’s history she is kind of messed up.
LOGIC THIS: He married his adopted child. NEED MORE? He was over twice her age. MORE? HIS DAUGHTER!
She was not his adopted child. There was zero relation, both biological and legal.
Andre Previn was Soon Yi's father. Allen always lived separately from Mia & her kids for the 12 years of their relationship.. Soon Yi always thought of him as her mother's boyfriend.
BREAKING your cap locks doesn't make the false information you're spewing any more LOGICAL. She wasn't his daughter, genius
Just starting to research this, what about the sunscreen incident?
That accusation appeared in the Vanity Fair article by Maureen Orth. The interesting thing about that article is that Vanity Fair wasn't going to publish it because they couldn't fact check the accusations. They only agreed to publish it once Mia signed a document saying that the accusations were her opinion. So you have an uncheckable accusation from the Farrow point of view.
The Vanity Fair article has been shown to be a puff piece, a good PR piece that Maureen Orth wrote for the sake of Mia Farrow. Maureen Orth took Mia's side from the start of the "investigation" of the article and blew up anything into "the truth" surrounding this incident in Mia Farrow's favor. Watch the youtube video By The Way. Woody Allen is Innocent.
@@rl12345 what do you mean uncheckable 😂 there were three separate witnesses: Mia's mother, sister and a family friend. What a strange story to make up out of thin air!
@@flipsidetruly1669 A direct quote from Maureen Orth herself: "I remember, for the legal fact-checking process on the Woody Allen piece, I was in a room with the fact-checkers for eight hours. They weren’t going to allow the piece to be published until I had a written letter from Mia Farrow saying if we did get sued, she would be a witness to say what I had said was the truth from her point of view." Apparently, your precious Vanity Fair 'facts' simply were unable to be corroborrated and confirmed. Makes sense since its been debunked multiple times over.
she is lying. she is a liar. her friends and family support her the same way woody's friends and family support him, but her friends and family have to lie to support her and his don't have to lie. the sunscreen incident is a lie.
I can write an entire story on this travesty .
Ofcourse, Woody Allen is innocent and the accusation
was completely made up by Mia farrow .
Woody Allen is one of the very few great living
film directors . His work is beyong brilliant.
Most of the world doesn't care to examine these
accusations against Woody Allen and realize it
is 100 % false. There isn't a single person I
can talk to about this .
What song is used here?
Penthouse serenade - Erroll garner
Glad to hear someone say this.
Great analysis of the facts. Case closed.
time, manner and lack of evidence only suggest it was an act of revenge also both sides interview reveal mental instability of the accuser and rationally of the accused
@@z17seattle all of this, but especially from 6:18. czcams.com/video/sn12SjrzH7w/video.html
@@z17seattle Well, bud, Dylan doesn't need to want revenge. She may very well believe everything that she's accusing him of, because her crazy mother coached her when she was seven years old, and has subsequently supported and encouraged her false memory of this fictional event.
the comments from 6:40 to 8:07 are sidetracks which should be removed as irrelevant, and weaken your case.
It was about pointing out hypocrisy regarding the Woody issue. Something he mentions in his autobiography, though admittedly doesn’t castigate HC like I do here. She’s a moral monster; quite happy to kill people in desperate parts of the world, but won’t accept a donation from Woody and Soon-Yi because… they met in an unconventional manner. Though if I could do this video over I would leave this portion out, not least because it’s proven to be a distraction.
@@logicbeagle - that was really my point; good logic would have us include only what's necessary to the point being made.
Am convinced he's innocent, in this case. And am absolutely on the women's side, but in Woody's case, have no doubt. We may not like what he did, but he's not to blame. Aside, we have to differenciate his work from the man within. And Woody is a great artist. Part of the NY highbrow circles, he still is one of the most creative and originally talented guys I've ever known. His witty and clever sense of humour, his compassionate and sensitive side and finally my sharing of so many points of view about, Love, Art, Culture and Society, makes him a one off, for me. He's a psychoanalysis product and so, I tend to think that he has reconciled himself finally with some darker side we did not know. Was it Jung who recommended everyone to accept our dark sides⁉️ ➖it's clear that to overcome something you've to accept it, too. So, although I understand Mia wound, think she should turn page. You can't stick to what has hurted you. And keep in mind what happened with Egon Schiele, and that was a real taboo breakage. But Austrian society accepted it quite quickly, after all the scandal. Since they married. Love is blind, doubtless. 😇
Thanks for this video, LogicBeagle. Woody's a genius and an inspiration. Mia, Dylan, Ronan etc on the other hand are out of control nutjobs.
How odd. No one's castigating Mia...Wonder why ?
she's cute.
If you believe Woody did it...then you also believe that Woody is the biological father of Ronan Farrow, and not Sinatra, whom she was having an affair with at the time of conception.
Relevance? Credibility.
Mia wants you to believe her and not your lying eyes.
People often mention the whole Sinatra thing. I don't think he looks like Sinatra at all. Ronan is the spitting image of his mother. Regardless, I don't care about that. I care that people just refuse to be open minded about this.
So... you think that dylan farrow has voluntarily endured immeasurable humiliation and ostracization for decades ruining her entire social life and career putting everything on the line and risking having an entirely miserable life (seemingly with acting skills better than any Hollywood A-lister) in a 3 decade long performance in an intricate web of lies (albeit consistent) JUST to help her crazy abusive mother hurt the wonderful loving father that she adored... So...That's the argument you're subscribing to? Just making sure...
@@z17seattle you're so feeble and rediculous. What ostracization has Dylan faced? Name one instance.
Name one way in which her social life has been ruined.
Name one single way her career has been harmed.
Name one way in which Dylan has "risked it all" or "put everything on the line"
Quit making up false facts just bc you're too lazy to think
I believe Woody Allen groomed his wife Soon-Li, he was sleeping with her before she was 21 and he was originally a father figure….. that is grooming a child and sexually abusing a child…. But I guess you just want to poke holes in one story by ignoring a basic truth…Woody Allen was attracted to a child he helped raise and then has sex with her and married her. If you defend that your a child groomer sympathiser end of story
@@z17seattle I don't recall Dylan Farrow being ostracized by anyone.
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Bravo, sir. Excellent. I'm glad you included Natalie 'Self-Important' Portman, so I can know to avoid anything she ever does. I like that you encourage everyone to use logic and critical thinking, two elements which seem woefully absent from all the 'first-stoners' and their bandwagon ilk. Woody forever!!
You can avoid everything she does ?? You are using your emotions rather then logic then.
4:08 Wow. Thanks for pointing that out.
Check out the new CZcams documentary on the Woody Allen allegations. “By the Way, Woody Allen Is Innocent”: czcams.com/video/muyaCg2dGAk/video.html
• I was in the camp of thinking Woody Allen was the creep. This video made me do a complete 180, well done!
• I admit i didn't know enough to speak about this whole saga. I'm quick to believe survivors, and this piece ABSOLUTELY is about survivors... just not the one that would damn Allen.
• I didn't really think about this issue but I saw the BS and assumed it was true. You changed my mind.
• Great documentary!!!!! This answers so many questions I had.
• I thought I knew everything about the case but found that indeed I did not.
• This changed my whole perspective.
• This was VERY informative and eye opening.
• I had no interest in the case prior to seeing this video (because I didn't know anything about it and like many just assumed Allen's guilt) but I still clicked because I'm always glad to see new content from you. Glad I did because this is absolutely fascinating and well researched.
Woody's films make life better. False accusers: apologise to Woody and to Woody's fans now!
One doesn’t need to like Allen or his films to believe in his innocence.
Very interesting stuff. Lost me with the Clinton campaign or foundation stuff as they can't just be about being fair but sometimes need to be about optics (as do big companies like Disney) so 1 person loses out and not double or triple digits via an unnecessary scandal
I think he should have pointed out hillary's attack on bill clinton's accusers allegations of sexual assault.
What the fuck does it matter at this point??? The man is destroyed.
I love Woody Allen’s work and want to give him the benefit of the doubt in this sorted tale. We’ll never really know, I guess. However, that attack on Hillary at the end was totally gratuitous. I am sure that sending back his donation was nothing more than a public relation’s decision. The last thing she needed was even the appearance of siding with any accused man. She has always been under a public microscope. As far as her decisions as Secretary of State, that is an awesome responsibility, not comparable with the behavior of a private citizen. Libya is a complicated subject that started with defending their citizens from the murderer Gadaffi. His death by the hands of his people was no great loss. What followed was not her fault.
I think we do know. No pedophile in human history touches someone once and never does it ever again.
ANN TUMBLR yes, I agree. That is why he gets the benefit of the doubt. Can we know for certain? Sadly, I don’t think we can. Dylan may have been coached and now have false memories. That can happen. But so long as she insists, it will always be her word against his, and nobody else was there.
I appreciate your point of view, and thanks for taking the time to comment. Perhaps it should have been left out as I know many of the viewers would be Democrats or Hillary supporters, but I thought it would be important to take a look at the hypocrisy that exists around this Woody Allen issue, particularly since WA mentioned this in his recent book and I thought it was a funny anecdote. HC has caused so much destruction around the world - leaving aside Libya, she voted for the Iraq War and tacitly supported Obama's drone strikes. But more pointedly, If she is so concerned about public relations and had to send back WA's money, why then does the Clinton Foundation accept donations from all sorts of despotic regimes and nefarious individuals? One thing in life that bugs me is hypocrisy and phony moral posturing, and HC was definitely guilty of this. I also take a dig at some non-politicians in this, like the wretched Natalie Portman. I do appreciate your support and defence of WA and that's all that matters. Keep speaking up for him!
thechristophershow thank you for your response. I agree with your stance on hypocrisy and Portman. Allen’s movies have been so great and a treasure trove of Oscar winning parts, and to take sides in this after making a movie with him is in poor taste. I know Diane Keaton and Scarlett Johansson have stood by him, believing he would not do such a thing from knowing him well. But I don’t think politics should be dragged into this unless a politician directly injects themselves. Hillary did not want the blowback that the two aforementioned actors suffered for their loyalty, and I doubt it was that important to her. Show business and politics only mix well when they enhance each other, neither need the scandal mongering of the other. I find it far more worthy to point out that this subject has really nothing new to offer and is only being re-litigated in the court of public opinion for profit. People with no talent selling a bunch of crap making lots of money on the back of a true genius. It just makes me sad, no matter what the “real truth” may be. Dylan is also a sad figure since she has completely defined herself by this one “experience,” and she seems stuck. So there really is so much here without dragging Hillary or politics into it.
@@rikihorton5979 "Nobody else was there." Nobody was where? In Dylan's imagination? Apparently, a lot of people were there at the house when WA visited the children that day. According to WA, they never went to the attic. Backed up by Moses. The Farrows concocted a narrative that there was this one moment when Just WA and Dylan were alone and nobody else could ever know what happened. That is not an undisputed fact.
i just wish mia would have to pay for the crimes she committed against dylan. pay fairly.
@@z17seattle he didnt harm his children
Two of her adopted kids committed suicide. Moses and Soon yi disowned her. Go figure. She is a mom from hell.
@@lepetitchat123 Wow! What is a woman like that doing with kids, period? She doesn't Dr. Phil, she needs the Wizard of Oz.
Innocent until proven guilty by a court a law right🤨 oh I forgot Guilty and prove your not and we still won’t believe you🫡
Hilary hooked up Ronan Farrow with a job at the State Dept. working under Richard Holbrook- one of the first to initiate the big lie of Iraq building WMD's (yes, the case was originally made during the Clinton administration- search "Howard Zinnia on Bill Clinton").
Now boy reporter decides to throw Hilary under the bus and accuse her of trying to silence him to protect Harvey Weinstein.
Only takes one act to ruin a girl
Agree with you on Woody. But hearing an Irish guy use the phrase "beyond the Pale" is a bit nauseating.
Thank you. There is more proof, but this will do. The date of the note is so important. Also the shrink Mia refers to as treating Woody for his close relationship with Dylan SAID in COURT I TREATED MIA AND WOODY SIMULTANEOUSLY RE FAMILY DYNAMICS. THERE WAS NO SEXUAL ABUSE. THIS from Dr. Coates in court, but Hbo, that slime, leaves this out. As far as Dylan goes, she told Yale in interviews that daddies don’t put penises in their daughters. Rigggght Mia, but she’s not coached. This was seven months after Sun Yi incident. Yale decided that there were three possibilities and one was Dylan was coached. Look You may believe Dylan believes it, but you can’t even get a real tear from her abc interview. No, she’s sticking with the story because she’s too far into it to deny it. I believe in her heart she knows it’s a lie.
Roman Polanski was not convicted. He took off and never came back.
He pleaded guilty and did time (agreed upon in a plea deal). He left the country on finding out the plea deal would not be honored.
Polanski was absolutely convicted. He fled the country after being given an extremely long sentence for the crime he pled guilty to and was convicted of
You're right. I forgot.
I agree with everything you said, except the part where Dylan isn't lying. She lied back then and she continues to lie. She is the sole perpetrator of this sham of a story, Mia just goes along with it. Dylan does filmed interviews.. but she continues to make herself sound worse and worse as time goes on. Its a travesty, never believed it.
I like to go a little bit easy on Dylan because she's been used as a pawn in this whole sick charade and Mia has damaged her beyond measure.
@@logicbeagle Fair enough. We will agree to disagree. I have my own theory about why Dylan is doing this, as a result of seeing the stupid but revealing Drew Barrymore interview she did. I don't tend to go easy on her. Sorry, but I can't anymore.
@@alphabetpony92 I completely respect that. There are some days I don't like her very much either and I have to remind myself that maybe she is sincere and not as vindictive as her mom. But who knows, you could be right. I didn't watch the Drew Barrymore interview because it would only make me angry. Was it really bad?
@@logicbeagle She reveals something about her own temper about seeing Allen and Soon-Yi step out on a dinner date. After she said this, a lightbulb went off and I was like: "OH, I FINALLY understand whats going on here." It was very revealing.. I think you know what I'm suggesting, I'm just too scared to say it forthrightly.
She said something like: "Why are those two even going out on a date!!?" -- I was like, umm, because they are married? Lol. Dylan is becoming more transparent than a glass window at this point. Its so obvious.
Thank you for this! More awareness needs to be brought to all these FACTS. It's so obvious he is innocent. It breaks my heart that a man that has never been found guilty is having to spend his last years this way.
Thank you! Please share my videos far and wide if you can because he needs all the support he can get against the relentless campaign of deception by Mia and co. I appreciate you watching. All the best!
I don’t necessarily believe that Woody Allen is guilty, but this is disingenuous. While there is only one accusation of outright molestation, Farrow had expressed concerns about his relationship with Dylan before that accusation, encouraging him to go to therapy over it because she felt that it was inappropriately intense.
This is one of the myths surrounding the case. It does not matter what Mia invents now in a very self-serving way about any reservations she had regarding Woody's relationship with Dylan, what matters is how she acted at the time: she allowed him to adopt Dylan, just months before his relationship with Soon-Yi was discovered. Furthermore, Woody was NOT in therapy for inappropriate behaviour. You are unfortunately repeating lies from the Farrow camp.
@@logicbeagle I’m not repeating anything except established facts. Allen’s therapist Dr Susan Coates said that his behaviour was inappropriate, however she also said that it absolutely wasn’t sexual. She just believed that he focused on Dylan to the neglect of the other kids, perhaps because Dylan was “his” daughter as opposed to one from one of Mia’s preexisting relationships.
Whether or not Mia’s ideas were groundless, and whatever her motivations for sharing them, the fact remains that she was talking about them before the alleged incident in the attic.
That said, I don’t necessarily disagree with your ultimate assertion. And to be fair the fact that the Valentine predates the actual accusation of assault is suspicious. I’m just not sure that it’s quite the smoking gun that you’re presenting it as. Just my opinion, of course. To me a really strong piece of evidence in support of the notion that Mia is a fantasist is documented evidence that she initially tried to say that Allen had molested MOSES, that he was secretly gay and preyed on her underage son. She then appeared to change tack and drop that line completely. That’s really fucking dodgy, and I don’t get why more people don’t talk about it.
I know this is a stretch but as an autistic person myself I can see hands-down 100% that Allen is on the spectrum and his behavior even in this regard is understandable. He didn't know how to act around children because he had never had experience. Ever. Autistic people bond with those we relate to but have a lot of trouble doing so with people we can't figure out. I think the reason he loved Dylan so much was because the two of them were in sync. He had never had this experience before of watching a child grow before his eyes and he developed a special bond with her, as he did with Moses. Autistic people always have trouble understanding the world and understanding what is appropriate and understanding socialization so when you're a parent you're told to be watchful and protective and I think he was just too watchful and too protective to the point where he felt like he had to be with her all the time. I think the autism is also evident with his relationship with Soon-Yi and not really understanding how much this would hurt the family. To this day I don't think he understands the pain he's caused.
@@thecreepycritic4455 What I can't understand about me is how she can just completely disown her own daughter because of her relationship with Woody Allen. I can't imagine saying that I would never ever want to speak to my child again even if they betrayed me and even if they hurt me to such an immense degree. If she thinks that Woody Allen is such a monster then why is she punishing Soon-Yi as well?? If you truly love your child you will love them till the day you die and always be there for them regardless of whether they hurt you or not. Her readiness to cut Soon-Yi out of her life completely is very telling. It says to me that Mia is quite narcissistic and relishes in being the victim, so much so that she's willing to sever complete ties with a daughter she swore to give a good life and always be there for because of humiliation. It also tells me that she probably wasn't really a good mother and that Soon-Yi probably found an attraction to Woody Allen in the same way that most girls who are neglected by their parents find attraction in older men.
@@SomethingSomethingg Because that's what she's really angry about. When Mia was in her early 20s and had just split with Frank Sinatra, she became friends with musician Andre Previn and his wife, singer/songwriter Dory Previn. Both were middle-aged at the time.
Andre Previn ended up leaving his wife for Mia, and Dory had a mental breakdown. Later on in the early 1970s, Dory recovered and wrote a song about Mia titled "Beware of Young Girls". At the same time she wrote another song which Mia must've listened to as well: "Daddy in the Attic" about her own experiences being molested by her father. You can listen to both on CZcams.
What Mia's mad about is having what she did to Dory done to herself by her own adopted daughter. That's weapons-grade level irony for you.
Thank you for this video. You express what I think.
Blue Collar Lit.
I agree. I read his book and truly enjoyed it. I do wish he'd realize that all the lefty sources that he's loved for years that turned on him on a dime have always been nasty, vindictive jerks with fairly miserable world views. But that's hard sometimes to do.
Why is he taking new pictures of his daughter though? Weird I could see why she would be upset at somebody that was told they lied about something that happened to them. I believe the daughter.
What pictures are you talking about? Which of his three daughters (Dylan Farrow, Manzie Allen or Bechet Allen) are you talking about?
Why is he taking pictures of her naked?!!?
Have you never heard of "sexting"? It's an extremely common, very normal and harmless thing that adults do when they're sexually intimate with one another.
But if common sense is so threatening to you, then keep on clutching your ridiculous pearls and running for the nearest fainting couch.
The joy that he brought to people and how good of an artist he is, is irrelevant to me. Everyone should be treated with the same standards and all the facts in this case point to that Woddy Allen is innocent.
Even if I think that marrying your adopted child is pretty much pervertion. But that's another story.
Wasn’t his adopted child. No idea where you got that idea, but it’s pretty weird.
Soon-Yi was his step-daughter for many years and after some years he married her when she was 27.
Using simple logic , you can figure that there was some pretty serious grooming in this case. If this is not perverted for you its ok, as its not technically illegal but for me it is.@@logicbeagle
@@TheAlexstam7She was also not his step daughter.
Yes.
Natalie Portman is a privileged 'elitist', and she talks out of both side of her mouth.
He took a lie detector someone he knew gave him, he never took one for the state. Guilty
It was the chief polygraph examiner for the FBI. He did not know him. Thanks for the comment.
@@logicbeagle ok well the Connecticut detective said he had taken a private lie detector, refused an official lie detector test given by the state. Js
@@logicbeagle I believe the her!
Polygraphs are not admissible in court anyway (and for good reason).
The case against WA is scandalously weak.
@@HeidiFlynnConley Woody Allen was never even asked by CT law enforcement to take a polygraph. Frank Maco might lie about it now, but there's nevee been any evidence produced that the investigators wanted him to take a polygraph.
Woody independently sought out Paul Minor, who as someone above mentioned, was the long time chief polygraph examiner for the FBI. Minor had also been chief polygraph examiner for the U.S. Army, and had been specifically brought in to administer a polygraph to Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas SCOTUS hearings.
Woody sought him out because he was regarded as one of the best.
Woody wanted to hand over the test results to investigators, but they refused to receive them on the grounds they were inadmissible as evidence.
There is no evidence that Paul Minor and Woody Allen were friends, or that Minor was paid to clear Allen's name.
Stop perpetuating falsehoods, doing so only causes harm.
Soon-Yi was in HIGH SCHOOL when Allen's doorman and cleaners reported that she was visiting his apartment alone (e.g., cleaner saying she threw away used condoms after her visits). At 17. That's not a legal adult. Especially since they had a step-daughter relationship for years.
Allen had been seeing a therapist for his inappropriate behaviour with Dylan in the early 90s, that was highlighted from several witnesses (including Dylan's therapist). He was not allowed to see Dylan alone - and he even said this was the case in the 1992 custody case. That he could not possibly have been alone with Dylan because he was not "allowed" to be alone with her. Is it not possible that his history of inappropriate behaviours towards Dylan from Allen that Mia could have been referring to in that "note"?
What about a strong theme in his movies that a much older man is in a sexual relationship with a young woman (17/18/20 years old). What about him admitting that his Manhattan movie was based on a relationship he had with a high school student?
What about ALL the experts that deemed Dylan a credible witness in 1992? What about the prosecutor saying there WAS PROBABLE CAUSE to try Allen in 1992?
Clinton and Portman character assassination seemed misplaced and defensive.
The passive aggressive and insulting insinuations throughout your video that "logical thinking" or "critical thinking" shows he is innocent is offensive. ONE comment he said on one TV show and one note that could have alternative explanations is enough for you to dismiss a child and her 30 years of trauma? Interesting stance to take...I wonder why you're so defensive of a man like this
Thankyou…. I can’t believe this guy is putting all this energy into making out Woody Allen isn’t a child groomer when he literally groomed his wife. These people clealry are just blinded for their love of Woody Allen’s films to admit that the guy is morally bankrupt. It really says a lot about this guy and the videos he makes… quite disturbing really…. And of course he does not reply to your comment and neglects to mention anything to do with his wife being a child he originally helped raise.
@@jameschapman9236 Except he didn't help raise her and was not a father figure to her; that is something that Woody, Soon-Yi and, most importantly, Mia Farrow, all agree on.
17 is a legal age of consent in NY and has been for the longest time. That includes the early 90s.
The therapist also said that Mia Farrow had an inappropriate way to raise Dylan and Ronan. If you read the report in the full context you will realize that the therapist was addressing both parents' odd behavior. Also, they don't mention the report of the therapists when they saw that Mia was REALLY calm, almost oddly happy when she found out that Dylan had been molested. According to the therapist, Mia told in that session something along the lines of "Now, everything will be ok". If you going to repeat the same stuff that the media spews, at least go beyond and into the sources.
She was not his step daughter, she was 21 in high school and 17 is the legal age of consent
conflating Hillary with this case is idiotic.
The HIllary stuff was a dumb zag to go on. Cheapened the whole thing.
He married her?!! Weird. His adopted daughter. So appropriate. 😢 I love his movies but I can’t respect his behavior. He’s no hero!!
It wasn’t his adopted daughter. Did you not watch the video?!
She wasn't his daughter. She was the daughter of Mia Farrow and Andre Previn.
He married his 12 yr old addopted daughter. Soo ok
Maybe in some alternate reality you invented.
How does the 27 year old woman he married in 1997, who was adopted by Mia Farrow and Andre Previn, magically become "his 12 yr old adopted daughter"?
You're either extremely confused or extremely dishonest
Wrong. He married a 27 yr old woman he was nit related to.
Wasn't there a girl/woman that lived with them in the past from 16-24 sounds like regular 70s Hollywood stuff they kept it going to the 90s lol
If she knew he likes young girls don't adopt a girl ijs
On the other hand, the Weinstein Defense [he's good for our industry; let's not taint his legacy by holding him accountable for offenses against less important people] is not in good odor at the moment.
Tell that to Hollywood who kept silent and protected him for thirty years.
@@logicbeagle ...which was precisely my point. Your argument worked so long for Weinstein, but he spoiled it and it won't work for Allen now.
@@georgedunn320 How many people have accused Woody Allen and could you name them?
@@logicbeagle ?? What kind of nutso logic is that? Nobody can criticize your idol expect those who were personally molested by him?
I'm not part of the Hollywood scene; I'm not in a position to personally verify or deny his behaviour, and neither are you [with the possible exception that you ARE Woody Allen and "LogicBeagle" is your version of "John Barron," the grateful Trump admirer].
Look, every notorious person has admirers: you're entitled to be one. I didn't even say your choice is wrong. Your ARGUMENT is faulty: Allen is not more credible than Farrow BECAUSE he's more famous, or because he's a "genius."
You could have made a better case by saying Soon-Yi stuck with him well into her adulthood, although such a claim would not be invulnerable to charges that she regards him as valuable economically. After all, who really knows? Not me and not you [allowing for that one exception]. People are complicated.
Except for a few researchers who make independent discoveries, just about all we know of the world comes from reports by someone else.
By your logic, nobody should condemn the killings by the Minneapolis police unless he knows some of the victims.
@@georgedunn320 if someone were to make an allegation of child abuse against you one day, or some kind of sexual assault allegation, should we believe that person unquestioningly? How about if two or three investigations looked into the allegation and said it was without merit, should we continue calling you a child molester?
i think its actually a false memory...formed over the course of mia filming/questioning her for 2-3 days.
its likely mia caused this accidentally and believes dylans story is true.
in this case...mia is being truthfull...dylan is being truthfull...moses is being truthfull...and woody is being truthfull.
"You took my daughter, I am going to take yours" - Mia Farrow Mia Farrow manipulated a vulnerable young girl into believing she was molested by her father.
Formed not only over a 2-3 day period but over Dylan's entire life. It's a rare kind of abuse because it has gone on to this day. One can only hope that the non-white adopted kids (those still living anyway) who have remained silent will go public about their own abuse once Mia dies.
I believe Woody ❤️
The constant music is annoying.
Logic doesnt matter when feelings are involved. Most people already made up their minds about him
Of course he's innocent
The gratuitous comments about Hillary Clinton were wholly unnecessary and irrelevant and undermine your credibility. Take it out.
I agree. I'm not a fan of Hillary, but what was the point?
I was making a wider point about hypocrisy; particularly since WA is a lifelong liberal and contributor to the Democratic party who was thrown under the bus at the slightest hint of trouble. Yes, I admit I have total disdain for Clnton. Thanks for commenting though, and I think one thing we should be all united about is supporting WA!
Your admission to your disdain of Hillary Clinton (I think she's great, so there) demonstrates a bias when you are trying to communicate facts without personal bias. It is completely contradictory. If you appear to be biased on one matter, one can only assume bias in others even if you are being objective. Why risk that? Take the Clinton nonsense out.
@@logicbeagle I think the Hilary part should be taken out. I think it does undermine the credibility of the video, which I liked and would have liked to be longer and with more information. And the Natalie Portman thing also seems irrelevant to me, since it’s just common knowledge that pretty much all actors are hypocritical to an extent. I’d just focus on the specific story, which is more than enough. The whole #metoo movement is a facet of it, but with so short a video, I’d focus solely on the main story.
@@gheller2261 you're mad that he called out the hypocrisy of a political figure that you liked. Boohoo. The reason pointing things like that out matter is that it has an effect on public opinion and public opinion is ultimately how famous people win and lose cases as far as their careers are concerned. Hilary Clinton returning money sends a message. Portman saying she believes Dylan sends a message. That message is that they believe Woody is guilty. Or more importantly, it's sets a precedent that this is how the case should be treated in the public eye. You don't want to go against Hilary do you? You don't want to contradict the MeToo movement do you? That's the problem. It sends the message that you shouldn't dig into this yourself, just go with what I'm telling you and people do. You can blame the people for being sheep but it doesn't take away from the fact that they're being led by opportunists.
Excellent presentation.
Thank you!
@@logicbeagle I like that you are a beagle and logical. 👌
Not really this is just some dope on CZcams defending a child groomer.
Adopted children often suffer greatly from severe early childhood trauma. My closest family friends had two adopted daughters who were loved dearly by their family and friends. One developed schizophrenia and the other became a heroine addict and had five children. The mother was devoted to both until their deaths and she suffered greatly from their sufferings and deaths. I knew another family that had to give up a foster child they took in because he was harming their biological children and their pets. I know of another man who was a foster child with very kind foster parents and as an adult, he terribly abused a close friend of mine who married him and had five children with him. I know another loving and beautiful husband and wife who adopted a four year old boy 21 years ago and all three of them suffer greatly. It’s really difficult to foster and adopt children. After listening to the commentary made by the filmmakers of Allen v. Farrow and other documentaries on Woody Allen and Mia Farrow, to demonize Mia is simply wrong here. I see her life as a heroic one. Woody made great films with great actors but he is a classic predator. My feelings about his films haven’t changed, with the exception of how I view Manhattan, which was a beautifully filmed and edited movie, but definitely problematic.
Woody has never in his life been a 'predator'. I cannot understand people who claim to have rational minds, interested in facts rather than fact-free allegations, and still conclude that 'Woody is a predator'. Utter bull. And no, I'm not in denial. The factual evidence just isn't there - and never was.
@@elseverwoerd Anyone who really delves into the life of Mia Farrow and concludes that she has been heroic simply wants to believe what they want to believe. And, equally important, what Mia wants them to believe. I have read and viewed everything that is publicly available on this whole matter and the only thing I am 100% sure of is that Mia Farrow is a monster. My true hope is that when she's finally in the ground those of her adopted children who have remained quiet (the ones who did not kill themselves or die penniless of AIDS) will have the courage to speak out.
You need to do more research than rely on the HBO hagiography of Mia Farrow. It is completely dishonest and meant to manipulate. Unfortunately too many people have allowed themselves to be manipulated. Read the work of Robert Weide, Justin Levine and Moses Farrow. View the Rick Worley documentary (a true documentary) on CZcams and other pieces that are available. Calling Woody Allen a predator based on the HBO nonsense is way too easy.
@@elseverwoerd Sleeping with teenage girls (Christina Engelhardt, Stacey Nelkin, and many more according to Engelhardt and also according to Allen’s private notes which show his obsession with teenage girls; he also tried to bed Mariel Hemingway right after _Manhattan_ was shot) when you’re not only much older, but also rich, famous and influential is 100% predatory, even if the girls were legal or almost legal. He’s too intelligent to be unaware of the huge power imbalance, and I think that’s what turned him on. So yeah, definitely a predator.
Also, why did he defend Polanski, another predator? And why was he close friends with Jeffrey Epstein, yet another predator, even after he pleaded guilty to child prostitution in 2008? I’m sorry but you’re the company you keep.
Edit: typo
@@melancolie83 Hello Lula, you bend, shape, and distort the facts in your quest to make some point.
Christina Engelhard't alleged 'relationship' with Woody Allen has never been confirmed. Not even by Mia Farrow, who figures in it, and is never too lazy to smear Woody.
Even if the story has some truth to it, Engelhardt was of age, and she has always said that it was her hitting on him, not the other way around. *She* said she dropped her telephone number on his tabe, *she* said she initiated that affair, not he. Given the admitted fact that she was a legal adult at the time, it means no 'predatory' or 'grooming' acts were committed.
Stacey Nelkin is an obvious consensual love affair between legal adults. Nelkin has always said to be very positive about their relationship, which has been confirmed by Woody. No 'grooming', nothing 'predatory', just an age-gap relationship between consenting adults that is none of our business to judge or condemn. Even at 60, Nelkin is a friend-for-life of Woody's, and she speaks highly of him.
Mariel Hemingway is speaking very positively about her contacts with Woody Allen. He made her feel very good by giving this young actress his support and friendly attention, and convincing her that acting would be her career for life. He did not 'groom' her and Mariel did not find him 'creepy'. He has remained a friend of hers, and she has worked with him again on 'Deconstructing Harry' in 1997, and would love to be in a new Woody Allen movie, if possible.
There are no other teenage women, and certainly no minors, who have been in any known relationship with Woody. It is just your imagination playing tricks on you.
All his other ex love affairs have been with adult women in his own age group.
I don't fall for the 'power imbalance' fallacy. Surely, there's a 'power imbalance' between lots of adult couples. One is richer than the other, one is more famous than the other, one has better verbal skills than the other, one has been higher up in some organization than the other. What is the big idea of the wokie-wokies of this planet about such 'power imbalances'? Should relationships between 'unequal' partners be forbidden? Should age-gap relationships be forbidden? Should directors (m/f) never date actors (m/f)? Should richer people never marry poorer people? If you say 'yes' to any of these questions, please go live on another planet than mine.
Woody Allen was never a 'close friend' of Epstein. The only thing mentioned in gossip media is that occasion when Katie Couric, George Stephanopoulos, Charlie Rose, Chelsea Handler and Woody Allen were lured to one of Epstein's houses - not by him, but by an Epstein shill, Peggy Siegal, who wanted to make Epstein 'sociable' again. The guests had no idea who Epstein was, explained Siegal. Woody Allen has been photographed leaving the Epstein house early in the day, not staying for any 'party' or 'dinner' as gossip magazines would have you believe. Couric, Stephanopoulos, Handler have all publicly regretted answering to that fake 'invitation'.Do you consider all of them 'close friends of Epstein'?
Take some time out to think now. Thank you.
Even if the child molestation charge is completely false, it is undisputed that he did begin a sexual relationship with his partner’s adopted daughter that was 35 years his junior. That’s pretty sick in my book.
Who he's still married to, to this day. And why the fuck is the age gap sick?? Only in 2021 is a May/December romance (including one that has lasted for almost three decades) considered "sick". Fuck you.
And it is fine that you believe that. But that has nothing to do with an alleged sexual assault of Dylan. One has nothing to do with the other, but it is the primary thing people reference to conclude that the assault happened. I also often wonder if people's revulsion might be tempered if Soon Yi looked like a model.
Two consensual law abiding adults can do whatever they want...if you don't like it, who cares...it's none of your business.
@@yournamehere6002 Mia Farrow adopted Soon Yi when się was 7 years old. Woody Allen started dating Mia 2 years later (Soon Yi was then 9!).
12 years later Mia found naked pictures of Soon-Yi taken by Woody. Yes, Soon-Yi was of age at that point but he met her first when she was a child and for the previous 12 years he was the father figure in her life. I do not consider this only May December romance. This is an adult man raising his daughter to be his wife.
@@girlfromthetree Soon-Yi has said herself that Woody was never in her life as a father figure as she already had an adopted father
Anyone who is watching this video pieced together by an “internet researcher” should watch Allen vs Farrow from real facts from real investigators. The truth speaks for itself.
Hi Emma, like most negative comments I receive, there is little of substance in your message. Please let me know what I have got wrong in my video, and any factual errors I have made. Thanks!
@@logicbeagle salty. I hope that your loved ones never experiences what Dylan did. You wouldn’t believe them because of “facts”.
@@v.l.7656 You believe Dylan despite the facts. So where does that leave us?
Yes - thank you
@@logicbeagle See my comment. I'm sure that will help add "substance"
He clearly wrote the note. You can even see it in his eyes and hand over mouth response. You can’t stop you body showing the truth. Guilty.
And you can't stop you fingers typing nonsense. Even Mia has never denied writing the note. Reality doesn't care what you want to believe.
Yes he is innocent 👍🏻
LOGICLY we will never truly know, only the parties involved and acting like you do when you weren't there is illogical.
Fortunately we live in a civilised society, and if someone makes an allegation there are a few things we look at to deduce the veracity of the allegation. This includes evidence and motive, and we assess these things in a LOGICAL way. Thankfully, we do know exactly what happened in the Allen / Farrow case, as not one, not two, but three investigations have clarified things for us. We also know that child molestation is pathological, and for Woody Allen to have been accused of this just the once, by a spurned lover during a contentious custody fight no less, is highly suspicious, to say the least.
Dylan Farrow thankfully wasn't molested. Stop wishing she had been.
Thanks for commenting.
@@logicbeagle yes and there is also evidence from her side that contradicts his defense. as somone that isnt a part of the jury and is not an offical judge, I would not claim to know for fact what happened between them. based on the fact that there is evidence from both sides that contradicts one another.
I think if you belive in one of them fully, that is not "logical" its a choice. because logically, there is evidence from both sides that muddles the entire situation to pick any "logical side"
Also the fact that you believe I decided who is guilty and innocent (despite never once picking a side) is stupid and says a lot about you and where you stand.
Only Woody and Dylan knows the truth!
@@lovettetlb Dylan might not know at all. If she constructed a false memory based on a fiction her mother coached her to believe when she was 7, she could simply be mistaken about what she thinks she knows.
@@collinsmcrae i was sexually assaulted by family members from age 6 to 9 and i clearly remember what happened to me 'til this day! That is a trauma that one cannot forget at all and I don't care what others tell you or what so -called experts say what is true and what's not true. Only the child and the pedophile will only know what happened that day! And that is the only truth I will believe!
I wish you had left politics out of this video. I believe Woody is innocent, but your attacks on Hillary Clinton make this seem like some wingnut right-wing video. I was going to share it, but that aspect of it prevented me from it. This video won't be taken seriously by more than half of the population simply because of that inclusion.
The Clintons deserve to be attacked.
They’re absolute scum.
@@vickielawson3114 love Hillary and Bill, they created 20mi jobs, started the chip program for kids
if you support the clintons then who cares...
"Let's not abandon critical thinking for advocacy"...Aren't you advocating for woody allen? Or are you admitting to shilling? Praise if youre admitting to shilling because you did just attempt to "discredit" individuals that tried to advocate for Dylan Farrow.