How to Mix Worship Music for Church Online
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I've learned so much from watching you Jake. I have been a sub for about a year and my FoH is drastically different now that before I stepped in to learn sound at church. With our church entering live-streaming, I had a new challenge and you definitely stepped up on your channel and it has definitely helped our church sound online. Thank you.
Bro, you’re coming in clutch, during these times, I’ve been a subscriber for a while
Thanks!
I've worked in broadcasting and audio production for (many) years, and am the sound person at church. This video does a GREAT job of explaining the concepts, and how they work. GREAT JOB!
plug-ins - gain , ( vocal tuning plug in) then eq , compression & effects (reverb and delay ) .. thanks for this intro … you have really simplified these words for me and this whole processing chain
Thank you for inspiring and helping many churches around the world. I'm from the UK.
I am glad that you started with trims. One of the coolest mixes I ever did was built on gain matching. I was alone and I was new to the venue and new to the talent, and of course the talent was running late - i.e. not much time to ring-out the microphones. So before the audience was going to come in, I raised the levels of the monitors and the PA above the standard level. Then listened to the sound of the first microphone when I stood on the stage and waved the microphone in front of the closest monitor. Then went to the back of the venue and adjusted channel 1's levels. Took a couple of round-trips for channel 1, but things got actually easier as I added each new microphone and did not turn down the already turned-up individual levels. Had to lower the main level and the monitors a couple of times to keep things just below feedback, kept adding microphones and then finally turned the whole system down before the audience came in. Didn't need much FX that night, and my respect of gain trims grew a little bit.
Watching this CZcams from Singapore and thank you so much for letting us know on what is so difference between the audio sound in our Worship Hall & bringing it over the Live Stream 😀. Is a great help & make me understand better now. Thanks alot brother and may God to continue to bless you in the Worship & CZcams broadcast 🙏
I never knew about mixing and mastering in a DAW. I was just used to a FOH mixing. Being a musician myself, I was never into audio mixing but just playing the instruments. But due to the prevailing situation, I was almost forced to learn it in order to make our recorded worship sound great for CZcams. I’ve seen at least 50 videos related to it and about 70 hours in the last 2 months mixing and mastering. I feel the difference in the mixing improve week over week and I use quite a number of pro plugins to get it sound even better. From 8 hours of mixing per 25 minute worship to just 2-3 hours now, I’m sure it has been God’s Grace all through 🙌. Thanks Jake, most of your videos have been useful to us 🙌
Love from India.
Hi Bro... good to see your comment.. hard work really pays off :) would like to hear more of your learning experience which would definitely be helpful for me, If you would like to share... please inbox me on ashlytitus@rediffmail.com ... thanks.
Another great and timely video Jake, thanks again for continuing to provide this much needed content to the church!
A common flaw I hear in many streaming mixes is distortion on the Pastor's mic when they get LOUD. Its important 2 understand the gain relationship between transmitter and receiver. If transmitter mic gain is NOT properly adjusted to the volume characteristics of your Pastor you WILL have distortion. And all the engineering expertise and console processing in the world will NOT fix it as the problem is at the MIC. Spend the time to properly adjust transmitter gain for clean speech/vocals.
Another problem I’ve seen is turning up master gain in the front of house can overload the gain going to the feed and cause clipping so it’s worth using a limiter
Hey, i have no idea about the gain on receiver gain of a wireless mic. A friend said that should be at the middle or 12o'clock and be adjusted at the gain on the console.
Another said that the receiver gain should be adjusted so that you get decent levels on the console without adjusting gain of the console. What should be the best audio flow?
Dude thank you soooo much, our church is growing and we need to start using audio and live-streaming, I was so overwhelmed by the audio part but this video cleaned up so much, thanks you, God bless
To God be the Glory, Thank you Jake for all your help.
Thanks, Jake for taking us through the basics. Very nicely done.
Thank you so much for the master class! I appreciate it very much. Let's look to always do our best for our Lord and Savior. God bless you brother.
Thank you so much. You won a subscriber! Thank you for working for the Harvest. Hallelujah!!
Thanks! This video helped me a lot to understand what I need to study in order to improve our broadcasting. Blessings!
Fabulous Jake! Thanks so much for the time taken.....sooo helpful!!!
You're so blessed Jake.
Great video, thanks Jake! Can you please go more in depth on the Plugins, like HOW you EQ and how you dial in the compressor, reverb, ... That would be so helpful!
Watched a few of your videos... the visuals are on point. Nice lighting. Nice Grade. Well done
Excellent! I am recording our first service of the summer on Monday. Super excited to knock it out the park.
Excellent, thanks for this awesome class. Glory to Lord!
Thanks for the great overview. Really helping me to know how to help shape our Gathering music experience.
You are answering my questions .. God sent you are ..
This is a really nice overview of the fundamentals. Thanks for making such an informative video.
I'm so happy to gain this knowledge.
Thank you for the tips! Cant wait to try this at our church!
Sounds awesome man. One if the best subs I've made on CZcams 👍🏼
Thank you, Bro. Jake.
One of your best, Jake!
Thank you brother, great information.it was very helpful. God bless you !!!
Thanks for your help man. We’re still in the process of upgrading our Analog PA to Midas M32. I hope everything turns out good
YO !!! Happy 100k my bro!!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Pastor at my church, and have found your videos valuable as we pivot to livestream services
Thank you for all the great information.
Thanks a lot bro. Got a lot of lessons from this session. Thanks again
We need more of these
Wow!!! Amazing! God bless you
Love the video! Thank you so much! The only question that comes to mind is how would I connect the mixed sound from a laptop to an iPad that runs Switcher Studio?
At 23:00 I thought the orange circle in the bottom right corner of the video was paint from my kids. I was mad at first, but then realized it was in the video. Great video!
Thanks for the video Jake . It was a great help .
Thank you so much, that was amazing 😁.
Thank you so much!!! Will definitely share :)
Great video Jake! Thanks for all your ideas over the last few months. Can you feed audio (DAW) back into wirecast on the same laptop
5:45 Amen Brother... * while looking at myself in the mirror...
Thanks for your time Jake, we wish God bless you! My question is: What´s the best way to send that mixed audio to the OBS or another broadcast software? What would be a nice computer configuration to use the DAW and a broadcast software together? Thanks!
I have learned so much, thank you so much.
This is helpful. More of the live stuff that includes the topic of latency please 😭
Amen brother, very interesting, you're on point, i'm about to try the Logic Pro, many thanks
Whery rich in learning I want to know what khind of Laptop you work wiht
Great series, brother. Keep it up.
Very nice video. I have been a church musician and operated a recording equipment of my own for many years. Different churches, bands, and even genres of music....and several instruments. I finally “retired” from it. My current church takes highschool or college kids who know absolutely nothing about mixing music, not the first thing, and puts them in the booth mixing. Their training is how to flip it all on and that is it. Worse.... they dont even know what they dont know. No ear for music. I love all of your videos.... but fundamentals go back even further than you took them here. Please keep up the good work. I have shared this video with my pastor and worship pastor. At some level perhaps they will begin to understand at least some of the skill that is requires.
Many smaller churches have analog or older consoles that don’t offer an interface built into them. Some are using their phones to stream right now. They’re taking an aux send signal to their phones. It’d be a great idea to do a video on cheap, budget-friendly workflows for churches who don’t have that Bethel money. Most churches don’t have that Bethel money.
The iPhone is one of the best on a low budget and it is great just get a audio interface that is los compatible send the audio from your console to the interface and you are ready to go
You, Deedre are SO right! That is exactly where our church is coming from. Back in analog LOCAL days, huge systems with bang-on speakers were "The Thing", but not when you are attempting to send digitally clipped megabits over the internet to everything from flip-phones to quad-core computers all over the world.
Solution? Go big or go home?
No! Learn how to work both modes. And right there is where I and many other small church engineers are at a disadvantage.
What to buy? How to connect? And most importantly, how to configure and broadcast over the internet AND.. still project audio efficiently for a growing senior population who can't hear the worship and the preaching through old technologically-inferior hearing aids.
We need help. Thank you.
And keep rockin'.. and PEACE in Jesus Christ. No Jesus, no peace.
Great video Jake. The church world of beginner engineers needs this type of content all the time, I'm no exception. Fundamentals are the key do doing it right, not gear. That being said, I don't know that I totally agree with the DAW as being the "right" way. I think it is "a" way. But just like you said in the beginning, gear is not the determining factor, its knowing how to use the gear. Mixing on two consoles can sound just as good if not better than a DAW and the reverse can be true. Comes down to what your techs can use better. I know for me, most of my techs are a little more advanced in age and a little overwhelmed by technology. Putting them in front of a computer over physical buttons/nobs/faders will almost always result is failure. Not their fault, just how their brain works best. Anyways. I love your content and really appreciate your work. Keep it up!
Thanks Jake! Excellent video and very useful. I am working alone in the process of producing the worship time pieces for our church and I am currently using Adobe Audition for mixing. I noticed you didn't mention it. Could you tell me if you have used it or if you recommend it? I am fairly new to this and want to make the most of the resources I have available. Thank you
Thanks for your presentation..its very helpful..GBU
Hey Jake i really like your video, just two qstns. What free software do you recommend using for a church that has a basic sound system setup? Looking forward to your reply. I'd like you to make a video of that if possible!
Thank You So Much . For Sharing, really help me out here
Enjoyed your content - Thanks for the top tips 👍😁 🙏
Very informative, thanks Jake!
Thank you so much Sir.. Blessed
Hello sr . Thank you for sharing . This will help our church live stream. gobless
Hey Jake. I’m really considering setting up a live broadcast mix like you have but how do you make sure it’s stable? How do I make sure that it doesn’t drop out/ runs smoothly and stable, and how to I route the audio out of ableton and into my recording software?
Man you blow my mind, I want be like you Good job
Jake, how are you outputting the audio into your livestream? Do you run your broadcast from the same computer you run the DAW on? Or do you send audio out of that computer (headphone jack) to a different computer to run the stream?
Same question here.
He pre-records and produces a polished video. Not a true live stream. However, as he said, you can stream it to the video switcher in a live environment.
I use soundflower.... I use ableton to mix and process my audio then i use OBS to stream to FB Live. "Soundflower" creates a audio device on your MAC so it can communicate with other programs And OBS just use as a audio input capture. If You have a pc you can also try 'VB-Cable". www.vb-audio.com/Cable/
@@CrownStudentG How to deal with the Audio latency from DAW when mixed with video ? how to get the perfect sync with Audio latency at the switcher ?
@@juancolindres4988 can you give me the link for downloading soundflower
Amen! Thank you... Awesome👏👏👏
Another helpful video, thank you so much.
Some interesting points at the end, there, about gear and how to accomplish this... and the trump card of “this is how Bethel does it” kinda can’t be beat, LOL, but I’d add a few caveats:
1. You do not need to “spend $50,000” on a second mixing console. That may have been hyperbole, of course, but you can get a Behringer X32 or WING for $2500-$3500... still a lot, of course, but not nearly as much as king-of-the-hill MIDAS.
2. I would imagine that most sound techs would still want a control surface of some sort to mix on, if they are actively mixing for live streaming. Yes, even spending $3500 for a glorified control surface may be overkill, some may want options to accomplish this. At the least, devices like the X-Touch or Faderport could be quite useful, and are far less expensive than even the two Behringer boards I mentioned.
Just some food for thought. You generally give great advice here, Jake, and I don’t dispute that. :)
Great stuff. Really appreciate this video.
thank you jake...
Awesome video thank you Jake. Just one thing I disagreed with is the 95% processing, 5% setting mix levels bit. I think mix levels is very crucial to a great mix. You can have a perfectly processed signal, but if its placed too low you may not even hear how great it sounds. One of my pet peeves is hearing live music, seeing say a guitarist play a guitar solo... and you can't even hear it. I think this is where sound techs also being musicians really helps. I know how hard these guys worked on practicing their parts so I try my best to mix so that everyone is heard (appropriately of course). But overall great video, just sent it to my whole team to watch. Thank you and God bless!
I agree mix levels are the most important part. I still think of the Utility gain staging he did, compression, and EQ all as levels as well considering they’re only allowing the right level of certain frequencies, and compressor is keeping the level where it’s supposed to be, and that initial Utility effect kept the level correct even before the EQ and compressor. You’re totally right, just wanted to point out I think it’s maybe 50/50 :)
Hey Jake... at my church we tried to live mix a full band in a DAW but we had a lot of problems with processing and with the encoder. Could you make a video bringing some solutions for that?
same // cpu overload issues and my cpu specs are very solid
@Joshua Phillips. It takes a lot of processor. We had to upgrade to a Ryzen 5 3600x
@@joshuaphillips4824 The video encoding is way more CPU intensive than the audio side. We've been using OBS and a separate machine for the audio mix.
Hey Jonatas, how do you route/connect the live stream mix on a DAW (macbook pro) to the computer running the video side (OBS, HMDI encoder etc etc)? Thanks
first you have to get a powerful computer that can handle all the plugins also try to use the stock plugin in the its less cpu
Also if you have a board that has enough extra unused channels you could route input to those channel create a mix route the output to separate output
Thanks Jake
Nice to find this kind of stuff finally. I'm a pastors kid and guitar player at our church I have a home studio and would like to do this for us thanks for the vid
Cool! Start cranking out the music :)
Great job! Thanks, Bro.
straight on topic!!!!
Just subscribed. Good luck with your way to 100k.
We have four mics and a keyboard. They all plug into an old Behringer Europower PMX2000 power mixer, and our live output is through the Right/Mono Main output to a pair of speakers. Our worship music comes from the keyboard and a singer (sometimes two) and the mics are used for reading scripture and teaching.
We livestream our services to Facebook through OBS with two cell phone cameras using iVCam through USB connections to a Dell laptop that is running OBS. The audio to OBS is from the 1/4" monitor output jack on the PMX2000 running through a 1/4" to RCA adapter then to a ROXIO VHS to DVD3 PLUS capture device connected to a USB port on the laptop.
The video quality is acceptable but the audio is extremely tinny and "flangy" ... So far we've had no complaints about the audio on the live stream but I just hate the way it sounds, so I'm using a second laptop running Audacity (it also runs OpenLP software for projecting song lyrics) and recording into it from the same Monitor Out source on the PMX2000 through a splitter - except in this case there is a 1/8" aux in port on the older HP laptop and I don't need the ROXIO capture device for it. Since the audio sounds so much better from that computer, I use it when I edit and produce the video from the service to upload it to our CZcams channel in the afternoon.
Perhaps my problem is in the ROXIO capture device. But since my Dell laptop doesn't have an aux in port, just a single headphone/mic jack that doesn't recognize audio coming in from the PMX2000. is there another way to get the audio into the computer without having to buy another computer or any gear? Our ministry is small and, well, we don't really have money to spend to make things sound good.
As always, great video Jake. Would you be able to make a similar video on mixing worship but for live streaming?
One question. For live streaming, can you use the same computer for livestream and mix the audio in Daw or protool?
You _can_ but it needs to be powerful enough to cope with both.
I typically use 2 eqs. One before the comp and one after. The one before, I use to make small cuts to harsh and muddy frequencies. Remember, low frequencies have more energy and can trigger the compression in an undesirable way. I like to clean it up before I compress. Then into compression. The compressor is usually fast attack and slow release. Then eq after to control the tone of the vocal. Lastly, with reverb, I like to get a reverb sound I like then pulling it all the way down in the mix. Turn it up until I can hear it, then back off a tiny bit so it sits in the mix. It will add space and width to the mix. I appreciate you making this video. I’m sure it will help a ton of people. I work at a pretty large setup/teardown church and you have some great content.
Quick question: are you using ableton to mix for your recordings?
David Vazquez not typically, but I do have ableton. I use presonus studio one to mix. If you have ableton light or intro, it is worth investing in a few plugins because what you have internally is a bit limiting. Waves f6 and waves shepps omni channels are some that I use all the time that can do a lot! If you want free, TDR nova is a great eq and can compress or expand bands of eq based on input dynamics. It can help for when a singer goes from chest voice to head voice, or to help expand a snare in the overheads.
Amazing work. You seem to enjoy it!
So much good information. Thank you.
Hey Jake, I've been following Churchfront for a while and really like your videos! Some thoughts on that video:
We are a church who just recently got into live-streaming but my brothers and I are in to video production for a while. As we have to invest in our current set up to make it "livestream-proof" I were deciding whether to go for DAW or a mixing desk. Here is why I decided to go for the mixing desk in the end:
1. Using a DAW I find it more difficult to create a appealing live-stream mix quickly. Maybe it is just me but I find it easier to use a sound desk and just jump to the knobs that I need. Also I find it, that muting and unmuting channels is quicker and easier with a sound desk as well as adjusting levels.
2. Most of our volunteers wouldn't know how to operate a DAW and if so they wouldn't be experienced. But finding the same sound desk as on the FOH with the exact same layout makes it way easier for them to jump onto the livestream.
And 3. which I think this is the most important reason: In your documentary the bethel sound engineer says that they've been using a Protools template that has been optimised especially for them for years and I also think that you bought a preset for your service which costs a couple hundred dollars as well as needing to buy loads of Plug ins.
So this is why I think we will be heading for the 2nd mixing console (Nothing fancy) but I would love to hear what you think about it and if you agree with some of my points!
Much love and thank so much for all the work you do!
I think Jake's approach should have been to say here is an alternative to buying a second mixing console, instead of saying buying a 2nd mixing console is wrong. Because both have their advantages and disadvantages, of which you have listed the some of the advantages of a 2nd console. In the recording world this is the typical "hardware vs plugins" debate. But on the flip side, it might be worth investing in learning how to mix on a DAW, because there is a level of control in evening out your sound that you might not get on your console, especially if you don't have a fancy one.
But it will take time. As a worship leader and self taught sound guy (because I had no choice as there was no1 to do it) I can tell you it took some trial and error, lots of youtube tutorials. For example it might seem easy enough looking at that vocal chain Jake has in Ableton and to think I'm just going to put an eq and compressor plugin and I'm good. Learning how to actually eq and compress using the right settings is not a walk in the park. Unfortunately it's not easy as just "dialing in the settings".
It's certainly not an immediate or even short term solution going the DAW mixing route, more so if you don't have anyone on your team who is familiar with at least one DAW. I think for the long run it's a worthy investment though
Cool start! 👍
I’ve spent around 300 hours remixing our multitrack recordings over the past year, they sound ok now.
lol..
I feel your struggle, I have a Behringer X18 Air due to space restrictions and budget constraints and its a horror show mixing on a ipad
appreciate your hard working
@@AsianJBlazian sounds and looks horrid. We just got the x32 compact for our youth ministry. Its pretty great
@@kalebchoi6372 lucky, lol
That was really helpful! Thank you!
Hey Jake!
I do appreciate your videos very much. We all have our special twists in our setups. At our church we have a Blackmagic video recorder that we’re using. We’re not live streaming. I am the worship leader and do want to run the tracks from the x32 usb out and into a computer and DAW process back out and into the video recorder as we’re recording live. My plan is to create a template in pro tools for audio. My question is about possible latency. Should this not really be a concern bc when I get to the video editing phase, audio and video can be realigned with that software?
when you're going for the direct-from-daw livestream option, how would you advise mixing on the fly and getting good reference audio to make sure that what you're hearing is going to be true and consistent across various quality of speakers and headphones for the listeners on the other end?
That's a good question. I have the same doubt.
thank you for the insight
You're amazing!!
Thank a lot Brother 😊 It was more informative 🎉
Estou amando seus vídeos, muito obrigado!
Hey Jake, I’ve been watching your stuff for over half a year and can’t even describe how grateful I am for a guy like you. One thing is I am not a worship leader but would LOVE to learn your Ableton courses and mixing, is there any way I can take those courses?
The info is on their website
This is great Thank you brother. One question. How to output your mix on DAW to the streamer like wirecast, vmix or obs?
thank you for this, it has helped alot.
Awesome job bro GOD BLESS
If you were going to recommend a version to a beginner, would Ableton Live Intro be good enough or would that be to limiting compared to Ableton Live Standard?
i have a question Jake; please recording in pro tools, Ableton Live and in Audition; i currently record in audition, what should we take
Thanks much.. Could you please also do a step by step video on how to broadcast out of the mixed sound of steaming laptop and where to get a template for those that need a little help. Thanks again!
hello,
Thank you for the interesting video. All your videos are very informative.
I am interested in mixing a stream live in a daw.
There are a few more questions for me here.
Are there problems with latency when mixing in a DAW and can there be problems when trying to synchronise the video and audio signal?
Is there a video you can recommend on these questions?
Thanks in advance
Christian