How to Surf a Smaller Surfboard - Don't Kook It!

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    Transitioning to shorter boards, and improving your surfing. The goal of most Beginner and Intermediate Surfers.
    What you need to take into consideration is your Perception of the wave. Are you changing that along with transitioning boards? If not, you need to. NEED TO!
    If you're not changing how you look at waves you're going to make the process far more difficult.

Komentáře • 75

  • @j.thornton8390
    @j.thornton8390 Před 4 lety +83

    Thanks! Been logging for 12years, finally decided to add the short board. You've confirmed what I was anticipating I would need to do.

    • @SurfStrengthCoach
      @SurfStrengthCoach  Před 4 lety +13

      yep, you'll need to look at a wave slightly differently, get used to different viewpoints as you takeoff, and become more comfortable with a steeper ramp at takeoff

    • @xisotopex
      @xisotopex Před 3 lety +13

      and surf the short board in EVERYTHING. dont surf the longboard AT ALL. even those days that people dont bother or claim its "log-able" you have to figure out how to get speed from the wave, rather than the board.

  • @rosemarybarton8121
    @rosemarybarton8121 Před rokem +5

    Soo helpful and validating as to why I was struggling during my first session on a 7'2 after my 8' foamy! Going to use this tip when I go out there today. Thank you!

  • @kitegirl83
    @kitegirl83 Před 3 lety +2

    Yep, that's been me! Was scared of the lip so switched to a 6'2 43l foamy, which has been great in getting my confidence up, not worrying about hurting myself or anyone else. Not sure if I want to go back to a fiberglass board just yet, or if I will invest in a 5'6 Softlite at 36 litres.

  • @aaronchu0427
    @aaronchu0427 Před 3 lety +9

    One the the most valuable tips on CZcams.

  • @twiginindo3041
    @twiginindo3041 Před 4 lety +14

    You may also need , depending on the reduction in length, to slightly change your stance / foot position a little , more towards the centre of balance ie your rear foot may need to come ever so slightly fwd to help control the board . And you can rely more on smooth upper body movement to do turns.

  • @jess77surfs
    @jess77surfs Před 3 lety +15

    I'm so glad I watched this...
    I've been surfing a 9'2 for 24 years. I just got a 7'6.
    Went out on a pretty decent day but got very frustrated with all the hard paddling and drop-in fails.😭
    I'm going to apply this advice on my next session.❤️❤️

    • @caraault2892
      @caraault2892 Před rokem

      I’m in the same situation have a 9.1 went for a 7.4 even sitting on the board feels so different. I definitely had better results finding some space in the line up to not mentally feel pressured and sitting a bit further in than Normal

  • @boxofdoomisolationcabinets166

    Just made the transition from a 8.6 (100 ltr) to 7.0 (55 ltr), big difference indeed.. Had the idea that I had to start all over again.. haha.. But the surf is much more interactive and fun. Even with those crappy waves here in North Sea..

  • @ingnir
    @ingnir Před 3 lety +3

    Great detailed and practical advice, especially about where to take off on waves on different surfboards

    • @SurfStrengthCoach
      @SurfStrengthCoach  Před 3 lety

      thank you! I find it's an aspect that is never talked about, but probably one of the more important aspects to changing surfboards

  • @jamesetal7088
    @jamesetal7088 Před 6 měsíci

    LOVE how people in the comments are being so open honest vulnerable concerning their surf progression. Im in the same boat and will try on a different set of eyes next session. TY!

  • @NK-vw4ms
    @NK-vw4ms Před rokem

    I have been paddling in on the peak on my longboard lol bcs that is what I was taught. Switching to a shorterboard this weekend hoping I will actually find the drop in easier with more room/less chance of nose going under.

  • @George-ni7tq
    @George-ni7tq Před 6 dny

    Thanks for the help mate. Looking at my dream board but it was 5”2 and i was a little scared.

  • @raymondngu3026
    @raymondngu3026 Před 3 lety +11

    I'm transitioning from a 8ft foam board to a 5'10'' fish and having so much difficulty just balancing while sitting on the board...

    • @wakeworm80
      @wakeworm80 Před 3 lety +10

      That is a big transition to make and if you struggling to sit on it then I'd be spending a bit more time on the bigger board until you are ready to go down to 5'10. Fishes generally have good volume and are decent paddlers but the pop up is much harder as there is a smaller surface area to work with and you have too bring your legs up further. Another idea may be to take it out in flat water and paddle on it lots and practice sitting on it , getting on and off in good speed etc

  • @fredmesley3051
    @fredmesley3051 Před rokem +3

    That is true, I bought a 6.4ft board. I learnt how to surf on longboards. When I tried standing up on small waves the board just sink. However, When I tried more powerful waves the board just speed up like a rocket. I never had the chance to stand up as the board is really fast. It can be scary.

  • @christinegerard4974
    @christinegerard4974 Před 2 lety

    Thank you .I had the impression to be in the water too ! ! …

  • @sazemi
    @sazemi Před 4 lety +2

    thanks, you got it man, blessings!

  • @MsBettydog
    @MsBettydog Před 4 lety +12

    good words coach.

  • @nelsonferreira8844
    @nelsonferreira8844 Před 3 lety

    This is sooo true.

  • @harryward6516
    @harryward6516 Před 3 lety +2

    Good paddle ineeeyoo eeyoo😂love it

  • @lukagallagher2112
    @lukagallagher2112 Před rokem

    Hey! What do you think of me doing the voice treatment of your videos?

  • @artshoshi1111
    @artshoshi1111 Před 2 lety

    GREAT VID

  • @nternetrat
    @nternetrat Před 3 lety +5

    This was good to hear, esp how frustration and learning is a part of it.
    I've surfed a wavestorm for my first year of surfing, and for the second year I've moved to a small 5'7 board and I haven't caught a single open face (it's been almost a year -- ahh I hate to admit it). Am I just in the learning curve? Do I keep pushing until I get that breakthrough? I mean it's not impossible right? advice would be great, i can't really buy another board lol

    • @SurfStrengthCoach
      @SurfStrengthCoach  Před 3 lety +2

      you may have jumped too far ahead in board progression. each step of progression carries with it new challenges in terms of skill and wave reading. any change in variable (wave size, wave power, board dimensions, size, volume, etc), will have an initial downslide in skill and an increase in difficulty and frustration. this is an inherent part of the process at times. you may have jumped too many steps ahead and don't have the skills quite yet to master that short board.

    • @nternetrat
      @nternetrat Před 3 lety +3

      @@SurfStrengthCoach shoot, okay. Thanks so much for responding. i needed to hear that, even if it's hard to hear lol.
      i guess i should get a bigger board
      thanks again!

    • @nternetrat
      @nternetrat Před 3 lety +6

      @@SurfStrengthCoach wow haha came back to this comment after regressing to a fun board- I'm catching 5x more waves (legit green waves, never had before) with this one. So worth it. Thank you for your advice!!

    • @SurfStrengthCoach
      @SurfStrengthCoach  Před 3 lety +5

      @@nternetrat it's made all the difference! that's sick! congratulations. from now on, whenever you surf ,think about what are the conditions? what are my skill levels ? is my board appropriate for these conditions? do I have the skill required to surf this board ? it's more of an analytical process about surfing and viewing your success or difficulties.

    • @nternetrat
      @nternetrat Před 3 lety +1

      @@SurfStrengthCoach thank you so much!!! Forrr sure, it's so worth it to just take my time with it (and more fun ;))

  • @emberspeedruns430
    @emberspeedruns430 Před 23 dny

    Im a kid i am 4’9 tall i did start off with a 5’8 shortboard and i was wondering if that was ok

  • @gabrielseldow6734
    @gabrielseldow6734 Před 4 lety +5

    What board short board brand/size do you recommend getting?

    • @jess77surfs
      @jess77surfs Před 3 lety

      That depends on your size, weight, the type of break you're surfing, and what you're trying to do...

  • @Experiment626XxX
    @Experiment626XxX Před 3 lety +1

    Can you do a tip on catching barrels I always catch the wave then can’t get inside the barrel

    • @stuartwallace6154
      @stuartwallace6154 Před 3 lety +1

      Take off deep, don't go to the bottom and stick your arm in to slow down, but obviously each wave is different

  • @artshoshi1111
    @artshoshi1111 Před 2 lety

    THANK U

  • @Kidofwater
    @Kidofwater Před 4 lety +13

    When's how to surf better part 3 coming out?

  • @xaviermengle3322
    @xaviermengle3322 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this, was used to riding a 7’6 board and catching waves with ease and now I transitioned to a 6’6 and maintained old habits gonna use this advice tomorrow though

    • @SurfStrengthCoach
      @SurfStrengthCoach  Před 2 lety

      yep, that could be a BIG transition. it'll definitely require that you start to read and position for waves a bit differently.

  • @maskedburritow
    @maskedburritow Před 3 lety +2

    This is rarely stated valuable advice. Dropping dimes dude.

    • @teamconspiracy
      @teamconspiracy Před rokem +1

      Couldn't agree more if I tried, and I'm trying

  • @arsaeterna4285
    @arsaeterna4285 Před 2 lety

    literally describing me TO THE TEE
    steepness scares me, and i never catch anything with my shorter board : )

  • @chronictraingaurd1717
    @chronictraingaurd1717 Před 5 měsíci

    I've dropped from a 9ft soft board to a 6ft fibre glass. Is this too much of a jump in size? or should I continue practicing on the board I currently have?

    • @SurfStrengthCoach
      @SurfStrengthCoach  Před 5 měsíci

      that's a considerable jump. Generally speaking, most people would have trouble with that jump, as it's altered SO MANY variables, and very much including wave positioning and wave reading. if you have difficult, you need something in between, and more than likely, a few in-between boards

  • @LunaticBiker11
    @LunaticBiker11 Před 3 lety +4

    If I want to transition from an 8ft to a shortboard, should I go straight to a shortboard or try to progress on something in between? I've tried 7ish footers a few times and they just seem to not want to balance when I'm trying to sit on it, so I'm not sure if that is due to them being slightly "over volumed," in which case a shorter board with less volume might be more stable sitting on because it's underneath the surface rather than on top?

    • @SurfStrengthCoach
      @SurfStrengthCoach  Před 3 lety +2

      you'll want something in between for sure. an 8footer to a 5 11' is a HUGE jump

    • @SurfStrengthCoach
      @SurfStrengthCoach  Před 3 lety +5

      @@jblecoz it certainly helps in certain conditions, but not always the case. on the majority of coaching trips we run in Indonesia, we often have people surfing WAY too much volume, and we actually lower the volume and increase the length of board we have them one. the length allows from some easier entries, and the less volume (dependent upon their weight) allows for better wave positioning. but this also depends on their current abilities, wave reading abilities, and what they're actually working towards in terms of surf goals.

  • @jupyjones4823
    @jupyjones4823 Před 3 lety +4

    I'm going from a 7ft foamy to a 6,6 shortboard...will I be okay? It's not ideal but really cheap so thats why:)

    • @phantomstranger1125
      @phantomstranger1125 Před 3 lety +1

      It depends on the volume of the two boards. If there is a really big difference in volume, then it will be very hard at first.

    • @Jhart44
      @Jhart44 Před 3 lety

      Help! Is a 6 foot foamy board a good board for me if I’ve never surfed...everything says 8 foot or more but it’s a great deal

    • @jupyjones4823
      @jupyjones4823 Před 3 lety

      @@Jhart44 I would say it is too short, go for a 7ft to 9 ft foamy or a minimal. I have just moved from a 7 ft foamy to a 7'9' minimal and it is a good transition.

    • @Jhart44
      @Jhart44 Před 3 lety

      JupyJones will the learning on a 6 foot foam as opposed to 7 or 8 be that big of a difference? Genuinely asking I know in texts it can come off a different way sometimes

    • @jupyjones4823
      @jupyjones4823 Před 3 lety

      @@Jhart44 I have never surfed a 6 ft foamy but that is the same size as a short board so it will be hard until you get use to it which could be a long time. What have you previously surfed?

  • @loganpabllo
    @loganpabllo Před 3 lety +3

    how tall r u? since you are surfing a 5’11

  • @notjamo_2034
    @notjamo_2034 Před 4 lety +2

    I’m ridin a 5’10 fish

  • @Hunter-vd1gr
    @Hunter-vd1gr Před rokem +1

    most helpful tip you'll ever read about here it is. all these guys complicate this way too much go get a board and surf simple as that guy makes it way harder than it needs to be i stated surfing for the first time bought an 8-foot board caught my second waive 2 weeks later after surfing no more than 3 times I didn't like lugging around a big board went and bought a 5 foot 8 inch board surfed it just as easy if not easier now for me to get back out there duck diving waives

  • @jakejacka2164
    @jakejacka2164 Před 4 lety +1

    can you do how to surf bigger surfboards

    • @SurfStrengthCoach
      @SurfStrengthCoach  Před 4 lety

      what exactly do you mean? as in a longboard? are you transitioning to a longer board? more volume? longer board for bigger surf? or beginner surfboard bigger board?

    • @jakejacka2164
      @jakejacka2164 Před 4 lety

      no i mean like i just got a surfboard gifted to me that is 6'0" and im only 60 kg and 5'7" im fifteen and i dont know if im gonna ruin my progression because my board is (i think) way to big for me...

    • @jakejacka2164
      @jakejacka2164 Před 4 lety

      @@SurfStrengthCoach im an intermediete surfer and its a high performance shortboard

    • @jakejacka2164
      @jakejacka2164 Před 4 lety

      @@SurfStrengthCoach do you think the size of a surfboard matters ?

    • @lukasconrad7732
      @lukasconrad7732 Před 4 lety

      Sometimes, when transitioning from a longboard or a funboard, a bigger shortboard like something 6’0 or bigger with more volume is easier to transition with. Thats what I did, i transitioned from a longboard to a 6’6 fish and then down to a 5’10. Theres going to be a lot of frustration especially going down to a high preformance board but its worth it.

  • @OlivierdeWith
    @OlivierdeWith Před dnem

    Why is this video in the water?😂😂

  • @artshoshi1111
    @artshoshi1111 Před 2 lety

    1K

  • @reycisneros2925
    @reycisneros2925 Před 4 lety +7

    Boo , did not really explain .....

    • @SurfStrengthCoach
      @SurfStrengthCoach  Před 4 lety +9

      I explained in detail something we see ALL The time on surf trips. I just left from several weeks of coaching at macaronis, and what we saw over and over and over is people having NO wave awareness or how to actually read a wave, so it just becomes frantic paddling and unnecessary effort. so when transitioning to a shorter board, the ability to read a wave is PRIORITY # 1, otherwise the difficulty is simply magnified

  • @conlanmurray7109
    @conlanmurray7109 Před 4 měsíci

    bad surfboard so bad review