Is India Selling Weapons to Israel Morally Repugnant or Morally Justified?

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  • čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
  • Is India selling weapons to Israel morally repugnant or morally justified?: Talmiz Ahmad, former Ambassador, Saudi Arabia, Oman and UAE, to Karan Thapar for The Wire.
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    Should India be selling weapons to Israel when we know they will be used to kill Palestinian civilians and at a time when much of the world has excoriated Israel’s Gaza campaign and it’s even been accused of genocide? That’s the key issue addressed by one of India’s foremost experts on the Middle East, Talmiz Ahmad, former Ambassador to Saudi Arabia (twice), Oman and the UAE. Mr. Ahmad calls it “one of the most shocking developments” and “a travesty”. He says it makes no sense that India should align itself with Israel on an issue where Israel has been accused of genocide by the International Court of Justice, the International Criminal Court and large swathes of Western public opinion as well as public opinion in most Global South countries.
    In the interview reasons why India considers it justified to sell arms to Israel are put to Mr. Ahmad. He answers each of them meticulously and individually. I believe you should see the interview to hear the discussion and find out his answers for yourself.
    The interview also covers the impact of this decision to sell arms on major Arab countries like Saudi Arabia and UAE, on Arab public opinion, on major Western countries and on India’s relationship with the USA.
    Finally, the interview asks if there is a moral issue when a democracy with 200 million Muslim citizens - the third largest Muslim population in the world - sells weapons to Israel knowing they will be used to kill Palestinian Muslims. Again, I will leave you to hear the interview to find out Mr. Ahmad’s answer.
    To help you, I give below the list of questions put to Mr. Ahmad. In the interview they are followed almost exactly in the order listed. Here they are:-
    1) Should India be selling arms to Israel when we know they’ll be used to kill Palestinians and at a time when much of the world has excoriated Israel’s Gaza campaign and its even been accused of genocide?
    2) Let me put to you two reasons why selling arms to Israel not only makes sense but you could argue it’s almost a moral requirement. First Israel provided arms to India in 1962, 1965, 1971 and 1999. Israel is also said to be closely advising India in Kashmir. If they can help us out in our time of need aren’t we required to reciprocate in their hour of need?
    3) Secondly the drones and artillery shells India’s supplying are made by a joint venture based in Hyderabad between an Israeli company Elbit Systems and the Adani Group. So if the technology is Israeli and the company is partly Israeli how can we stop it selling its arms to Israel?
    4) This news has been confirmed by a former Israeli Ambassador to the Israeli outlet Ynetnews.com but there’s neither a denial nor confirmation from South Block. How do you explain that?
    5) What impact will this have on India’s relations with the Arab world and in particular Saudi Arabia and UAE? Could it damage the relationship or given that UAE has diplomatic relations with Israel and not so long ago the Saudis were said to be on the brink of similar ties is that unlikely?
    6) What impact will this have on Arab public opinion? Upto 9 million Indians work in West Asia. Could this have worrying repercussions for them? And their remittances are a critical contribution to the Indian economy.
    7) I’m told in 1974, when India was said to be supplying weapons to Israel, the Saudis imposed an 8 day oil embargo. Fifty years later, when Saudi Arabia’s attitude to Israel is very different and when its support for the Palestinians is lukewarm, is there a danger of a similar response or is that highly unlikely?
    8) Even if the Arab countries are accepting of the Indian decision to supply arms to Israel what about Iran? It’s an implacable foe of Israel. Can Tehran accept this without any impact on the relationship with India?
    9) How will this news be received in the West? We’re supplying weapons at a time Netanyahu has accused USA of deliberately slowing down weapon supplies and at a time when in May Spain refused permission for a ship that sailed from Chennai carrying weapons for Israel to dock in Cartagena. So how will this go down in the West?
    10) This development will clearly please the Biden Administration. Could it help ease some of the tension the murder-for-hire Pannun allegations have introduced into the relationship both at the level of the White House and Congress?
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Komentáře • 338

  • @thomasthomasphilp4393
    @thomasthomasphilp4393 Před 2 dny +15

    It was Indira Gandhi who seeked weapons from Israel to defeat Pakistan

    • @trignal
      @trignal Před 2 dny +3

      Your point being? Can you people have a moral stand without whataboutism?

    • @thomasthomasphilp4393
      @thomasthomasphilp4393 Před 2 dny +2

      @@trignal At that time, Palestinians were being suppressed and India didn’t recognize Israel then. Still, Indira Gandhi went to seek help from Israel. For countries, strategic interests come first then moral interests. Indira´s objective was to stop the genocide in Bangladesh and India was not in a position to absorb all the refugees. Where are "Eyes on Sudan"? A genocide is going on there with the help of the UAE. Where are the calls to boycott UAE? Where were the protests when Saudi-led coalition killed 300,000 innocent Yemenis including Houthi rebels? Still, those rebels want to help Palestinians. Aid and Journalists were not allowed inside Yemen by Saudi-led coalition. READ AND RESEARCH

    • @TripleAAA787
      @TripleAAA787 Před dnem +1

      ​@@thomasthomasphilp4393 who did Israel's patron US sypport during the Bangladeshi war, do you research as well.😅

    • @user-bj4kg2lw3h
      @user-bj4kg2lw3h Před dnem

      First Indra Gandhi seeked weapon from USA as soviet Union was in a decline. But USA directed them to take from their Proxy. They were promoting that Tiny State.

    • @user-bj4kg2lw3h
      @user-bj4kg2lw3h Před dnem +1

      @@thomasthomasphilp4393 Indira Gandhi Objective was to stop Genocide in Bangladesh? Wow..from where u get your research from Whatsapp University..

  • @akaalkripal5724
    @akaalkripal5724 Před 2 dny +27

    Next up on the wire - "Is it Morally justified to not talk to Pakistan, concede all their demands, never live happily ever after?"

    • @trignal
      @trignal Před 2 dny

      I'm sure this sentence made sense in your head when you wrote it.

    • @rajsub3884
      @rajsub3884 Před dnem

      Are u even talking sense I know senseless people are there everywhere this

  • @sharathahuja8261
    @sharathahuja8261 Před 3 dny +24

    Did you take the USA to the ICJ for Vietnam, Iraq, Syria. Afghanistan?

    • @AftabKhan-lg8uc
      @AftabKhan-lg8uc Před 3 dny

      India did not take Israel to ICJ.

    • @nanomunu
      @nanomunu Před 3 dny

      What nonsense is this?

    • @thebestevertherewas
      @thebestevertherewas Před 3 dny +1

      ​@@AftabKhan-lg8ucAnd it shouldn't.
      Until the US gov roams free, no one has right to question anyone.
      Be it Russia or Israel
      There are no morals in Geopolitics.
      India found that out during the Kargil War

  • @SHIVAMYadav-pw5uz
    @SHIVAMYadav-pw5uz Před dnem +2

    One can imagine Why India and Saudi Arabia were not good friends because of these kind of radical ambassador....

  • @ishwarnathjha6319
    @ishwarnathjha6319 Před 3 dny +28

    Pakistan betrayed and attacked India in Kargil.Was Arab world aggressive on Pakistan ? What Atalji did and what Pakistan did is a lesson for India not to care so much to other countries.

    • @botheredbewildered5646
      @botheredbewildered5646 Před 3 dny +10

      This is about who we are as a people not about the Arab world. How morally confused can you be?

    • @smita568
      @smita568 Před 3 dny +1

      do you wanted to be counted among them then?

    • @AjitKumar-lo9yu
      @AjitKumar-lo9yu Před 3 dny

      ​@@botheredbewildered5646😂😂😂 morality

    • @thebestevertherewas
      @thebestevertherewas Před 3 dny +7

      ​@@botheredbewildered5646Morals won't save you during a war df
      During the Kargil War, no one supplied India with ammunitions , except for Israel !
      Not even Russia

    • @rigeshyogi
      @rigeshyogi Před 2 dny

      ​@@thebestevertherewas Not supplied. Sold for an extortionate profit. Israel doesn't give a shit about India.

  • @adityaparange6311
    @adityaparange6311 Před dnem +2

    Why does his heart beat for Palestine ? Rest of the Arab world dont even want a single Palestine there.

    • @fh8047
      @fh8047 Před dnem

      Ignorant much! There are millions of Palestinians living in all of arab countries. Hezbollah itself is predominantly Palestinians

  • @ankitsrivastava1571
    @ankitsrivastava1571 Před dnem +1

    Nice topic for discussion. Unfortunately, the mainstream media is not discussing this crucial development. Good work Mr. Thapar for bringing it to the forefront.

  • @arijitdakshi820
    @arijitdakshi820 Před 3 dny +27

    This is yet another sign of a deep divide in the Indian Establishment over Foreign Policy.
    Selling weapons to Israel undermines India's national interests. What next, selling weapons to Ukraine?

    • @suvrajyotigupta2368
      @suvrajyotigupta2368 Před 3 dny +2

      No it does not.

    • @AjitKumar-lo9yu
      @AjitKumar-lo9yu Před 3 dny +4

      Since when has Indian foreign policy been hostage to the whimsical thinking of Muslim brotherhood. Why is this babu discussing about defence related matters through his narrow minded ulterior motives.

    • @thebestevertherewas
      @thebestevertherewas Před 3 dny

      Tit for tat.
      No morals will save you or give you weapons during a war !
      Israel provided us weapons during our Kargil War, and we should provide them with theirs.
      The Muslim Brotherhood will not save India

    • @thebestevertherewas
      @thebestevertherewas Před 3 dny

      Indian Establishment ?
      The Nehru family was the de-facto Establishment till 2014 df !

    • @Mussadi_Lal
      @Mussadi_Lal Před dnem +2

      If selling weapons to Israel is not Indian national interest.
      Then what was the Israel help during kargil war.
      This discussion proves only one thing: For a Muslim Ummah first, India second, and non muslim kaafir.

  • @h79guf
    @h79guf Před 2 dny +19

    The comment section proves the point Mr Ahmed made - domestic communal agenda is a powerful force.

    • @vapour3896
      @vapour3896 Před 2 dny +2

      The same way a particular religion forces one to choose its side 😁

    • @suryaprakash72771
      @suryaprakash72771 Před 18 hodinami

      The same way fascist Hindutva communal party of BJpee supports the colonial Zionist enterprise of Israel

    • @sk61186
      @sk61186 Před hodinou

      Is the demand for supporting Palestine over Israel not a domestic agenda of communal jihadis?

  • @rajkumarganesan9417
    @rajkumarganesan9417 Před 3 dny +9

    of 22 June 2024, over 38,000 people (37,396 Palestinian and 1,478 Israeli have been reported as killed in the Israel-Hamas war, including 108 journalists (103 Palestinian, 2 Israeli and 3 Lebanese) and over 224 humanitarian aid workers, including 179 employees of UNRWA.
    In this modern world of AI , is the war in Gaza strip can be termed as moral outrageous stand against the human being.

  • @user-rg7jt4xp9y
    @user-rg7jt4xp9y Před 3 dny +2

    We are friends with Iran, so that kinda balances it out? We are friends with Saudi Arabia too, if you are uncomfortable with Iran.
    And with Israel too, however you feel. What you feel is not important, what's in National Interest is important.
    Realpolitik, you see.
    No FAQs given - it's Modi Rule.

  • @AlokAsthana1954
    @AlokAsthana1954 Před 3 dny +14

    Morally repugnant? Wrong question.
    What is not immoral in all that India is doing since 2014?
    Forget it.

    • @sandeepgupta-oz3tw
      @sandeepgupta-oz3tw Před 3 dny

      Muslim appeasement needs to Stop. Hindus rights are being snatched away by Khangress

  • @nitishpatel1017
    @nitishpatel1017 Před dnem +2

    Any idea what he said about Reasi and the Kashmiri Brahmins? Also does he know Palestine’s stand on Kashmir?

    • @fh8047
      @fh8047 Před dnem +1

      Gujju whataboutery. Palestinians will have no opinion of Kashmir. They are too busy sorting out their own issues

  • @isacr4063
    @isacr4063 Před hodinou +1

    Saudi arabia and uae are important to india. But algeria and morocco are as important is news to me.

  • @shilpa3032
    @shilpa3032 Před 3 dny +7

    Why not same outrage of indian workers in Saudi arabia, qatar, who are living sub human conditions but are outraged by Palestine people. What a shame

    • @easwaransanthakumar297
      @easwaransanthakumar297 Před 3 dny +4

      They went to those countries on their own choice.

    • @im7374
      @im7374 Před 3 dny +4

      Why Dont You Called Them back To India ?

    • @im7374
      @im7374 Před 3 dny

      Why India Is Earning $120 Billions From Muslims Countries ? "Issko Kehte Hai Jiss Thali Mein Khaoo Ussi Mein Ched Karna"

    • @thebestevertherewas
      @thebestevertherewas Před 3 dny +2

      @@easwaransanthakumar297 Its purely a commercial deal.
      We will sell to Philistine, if they can afford it that is.
      We will sell to both Ukraine and Russia !
      There are no morals in Geopolitics.
      India found that out during the Kargil War

    • @shilpa3032
      @shilpa3032 Před 3 dny

      @@easwaransanthakumar297 yes because of labour policies in india, companies don’t invest thanks to communist governments in kerela and west bengal. They don’t go out of choice but out of compulsion to earn a living. Didn’t u hear the deaths of 50 kerelites crammed in one room. This is reason I support india support to israel. People like u only recognize Palestine suffering what about other sufferings . It’s hypocrisy and india has grown intelligent

  • @aslamferoz6817
    @aslamferoz6817 Před 3 dny +5

    Thanks for this interview on the burning issue.

  • @nutanjd3710
    @nutanjd3710 Před 3 dny +23

    Where is India catapulting towards?......from a land which propogated non-violence to the world, to, being an accomplice in Genocide in Palestine.

    • @thebestevertherewas
      @thebestevertherewas Před 3 dny +2

      Why did no other nation help " moral" India against Pakistan in Kargil War ?
      Except Israel, no nation helped India

    • @abuzarhashmi5448
      @abuzarhashmi5448 Před 2 dny +2

      Welcome to amrit-kaal!

    • @thebestevertherewas
      @thebestevertherewas Před 2 dny

      @@abuzarhashmi5448 Amrit KAl was during the socialist rule of the Nehru family , when most Indians were dirt poor ?

    • @nirmalbhel3231
      @nirmalbhel3231 Před 2 dny

      who started this

    • @fh8047
      @fh8047 Před dnem +1

      ​@nirmalbhel3231 go read Balfour declaration and sykes picot act before you add your ignorant comment

  • @thebestevertherewas
    @thebestevertherewas Před 3 dny +1

    Until the US gov roams free, no one has right to question anyone.
    Be it Russia or Israel
    There are no morals in Geopolitics.
    India found that out during the Kargil War

  • @aligadelaide9186
    @aligadelaide9186 Před 16 hodinami

    A diplomat is always a diplomat.

  • @prakashraju9304
    @prakashraju9304 Před 3 dny +5

    Why can't Talmiz Ahmed suggest islamic countries to follow democracy instead of autocracy ? We must go with democracies not islamic countries which they don't follow democratic principles.

    • @fh8047
      @fh8047 Před dnem

      Then the first thing you should do is bring back expatriate hindu workers from muslim countries. India receives over $ 70 billion in remittances from GCC countries alone. Namak haraam!

  • @sk61186
    @sk61186 Před hodinou

    If buying weapons from Israel, when India needed was not repugnant, then how can selling weapons to them be called repugnant? This is simply returning the favour. Did we not send aid to Palestine? Did we not support 2 nation formula? The world is not monochromatic.

  • @kingrock3347
    @kingrock3347 Před 3 dny +9

    Go to palstin* you both to fight 😂😂😂

    • @nightking8490
      @nightking8490 Před dnem +1

      😂😂😂

    • @fh8047
      @fh8047 Před dnem +1

      Meanwhile, poor hindu laborers are busy earning their daily wages in Israel

  • @PositivismAtItsBest
    @PositivismAtItsBest Před 3 dny +12

    It’s a business- Israel helped India in tough times of war e.g Kargil so is india helping them in this. Transactions with Friends. Your Islamic morality is out for sale and nobody wanna buy in 2024 in international market.

  • @jayantbarla
    @jayantbarla Před 3 dny +1

    If this action does not make sense, then you do not understand the present ruling setup

  • @rameshsareen1973
    @rameshsareen1973 Před 3 dny +11

    I fully agree with whatever Ambassador TalmizAhmad has stated further during Kargil War India was not prepared militarily and Israel is indulging in the genocide of innocent Palestinian men women and children it is just disgusting and shameful it is certainly not Gandhi-Nehru’s India policy

    • @VermaRajinder
      @VermaRajinder Před 3 dny

      This Arse Talmiz Ahmad is just being Muslim. He can have a view but the average Indian knows what is Right and supports Israel !!!

    • @sk61186
      @sk61186 Před 52 minutami

      Gandhi and Nehru were your guys. Modi is ours. Thank you, tata, bye bye.

  • @trignal
    @trignal Před 2 dny +11

    When India had a moral backbone, they have always sided with the native population fighting against colonial occupation. I still have an expired Indian passport that prohibited travel to South Africa and Israel. These people have lost their moral compass.

    • @nirmalbhel3231
      @nirmalbhel3231 Před 2 dny

      it was Arabs that occupied Jewish land first. Israel wants to live together but Muslims can't live with others in peace

    • @sk61186
      @sk61186 Před 57 minutami

      No, India did not have a back bone then. It was broken by the jihadis who forced us to go against our national and civilizational interests. 750 million Jihadis in the Indian subcontinent are not at all friendly to India. Now that we have found our spine under Modi, we are doing what is good for us.

  • @zakiabrahim2164
    @zakiabrahim2164 Před 2 hodinami

    Palestinians are not only Muslims but Christians too.

  • @isacr4063
    @isacr4063 Před hodinou

    India is also selling for money. So what if israel sold us weapons previously and it was not charity. What a fallacious argument by the ambassador. His personal faith should dictate indias actions?

  • @hiranyabhargavi5482
    @hiranyabhargavi5482 Před 3 dny +6

    Mr. Ahmed was just trying to say that this moral issue affects not only the minorities but also the majority deeply and discontent would also flare in large sections of it. The point that he was making towards the end of the interview should be acknowledged.

  • @mashraf1605
    @mashraf1605 Před 13 hodinami

    An European country like Spain is preventing its port from shipping weapons to Israel and India is actively sending weapons. Till now Houthis and Iran have not spoken about this. Once the war is over, this may have lot of ramifications.

    • @isacr4063
      @isacr4063 Před hodinou

      Are you threatening india?

  • @rajendradhavalikar1388
    @rajendradhavalikar1388 Před 3 dny +9

    Today's Bharat is Modi's Bharat, definitely not Gandhi's Bharat, now forget Gandhi.

    • @nightking8490
      @nightking8490 Před dnem +1

      Good we don't need Gandhi's bharat.

    • @fh8047
      @fh8047 Před dnem

      Remember, Nothing lasts forever.

    • @nightking8490
      @nightking8490 Před dnem

      @@fh8047 Yes, Gaza will not last forever.

    • @aksh_it1242
      @aksh_it1242 Před 12 hodinami

      🤣​@@nightking8490

    • @sk61186
      @sk61186 Před 53 minutami

      ​@@fh8047The one who will replace Modi Will really make you have the bouts of nostalgia. Be ready for a world dominated by awakened Hindus.

  • @user-gt2hv4lr2n
    @user-gt2hv4lr2n Před hodinou

    British Raj killed around 170m Indians during their Raj and starved most of our ancesters in 40years from 1980-1920,
    And today We Indians are complicit in genocide doing exactly the same to palestians.
    This divisions in cast and religion is what the British left us with and they ruled over us for over 200 years..when will the indian subcontinent learn..we must reunite..to be mighty region AGAIN.

  • @lightgatha
    @lightgatha Před 3 dny +1

    🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @rktiger1
    @rktiger1 Před 2 dny +1

    This is also commercial deal ... fuck morals

  • @akhileshwarprasad3699

    Can We get Iron-dome from Israel?

  • @vidyavarier8206
    @vidyavarier8206 Před 2 dny +13

    This is a shame to India and all Indians😢

    • @stuartcook7362
      @stuartcook7362 Před 2 dny +5

      Back to kitchen with your opinion

    • @vidyavarier8206
      @vidyavarier8206 Před 2 dny

      @@stuartcook7362 get well soon

    • @nirmalbhel3231
      @nirmalbhel3231 Před 2 dny +1

      How? Israel helped India when world refused, Russia helped India when world refused. Both Israel Russia needs help badly

    • @arjun.cheeroth
      @arjun.cheeroth Před 2 dny +1

      ​@@stuartcook7362 wow very modern fellow you are

    • @stuartcook7362
      @stuartcook7362 Před dnem +1

      @@arjun.cheeroth is she your mom ??

  • @pentayyakopi4044
    @pentayyakopi4044 Před dnem

    Well, this is Ahmad .

  • @zaphbrox8239
    @zaphbrox8239 Před 3 dny +15

    In the past, we have taken the moral high road, even refusing to side with our closest ally the USSR in the cold war. Those days our leaders were humanitarians who valued human lives more than profits and $$$. Now, with a hard-core capitalist leader who is openly against musIims, there is no space for any sort of empathy to the Palestinian cause from the leaders. We may be becoming stronger economically, but are morally in an abyss.

    • @krisgopi_8
      @krisgopi_8 Před 3 dny

      James Cameron film Abyss is must watch.
      If you not seen then you better

    • @user-rg7jt4xp9y
      @user-rg7jt4xp9y Před 3 dny

      We are friends with Iran, so that kinda balances it out? We are friends with Saudi Arabia too, if you are uncomfortable with Iran.
      And with Israel too, however you feel. What you feel is not important, what's in National Interest is important.
      Realpolitik, you see.
      No FAQs given - it's Modi Rule.

  • @prakashraju9304
    @prakashraju9304 Před 3 dny +2

    Why all islamic countries supported Pakistan on the issue of Kashmir instead of India which had legitimacy from the King of Kashmir ?

    • @sk61186
      @sk61186 Před 40 minutami

      From the king of Kashmir and from the historical records. But for the Jihadis, history starts only 1400 years ago. The Ayodhya temple was not a temple, it was Babri masjid for them.

  • @Vhshjvbjbcch3457
    @Vhshjvbjbcch3457 Před 3 dny +1

    aaj Tamilnadu me 60 log mr gye jab vidhansabha me Vipach k MP me un mare hue logo ki awaj uthai to unko bahar nikal diya gya lekin kisi jhoote Besaram reporter ne iski bat nhi ki kyu savidhan kaha gya jb sansad m Vipach k logo ko nikala jae tab savidhsn ki hatya Ho jati h lekin jb Congress vidhansabha me Vipach k MP li bahar nikal deti h tab savidhsn loktantra ki hatya nhi hoti wah re doglapnati

  • @drrmdebnath8356
    @drrmdebnath8356 Před 3 dny +2

    Karan chzcha,,saudi is a friend of israel

  • @giridhark9889
    @giridhark9889 Před 2 dny +1

    Nothing Wrong.

  • @zamz4067
    @zamz4067 Před 3 dny +3

    Hypocrisy at the highest level of PM and regime

  • @AftabKhan-lg8uc
    @AftabKhan-lg8uc Před 3 dny +6

    Mr. Ahmad is a person of high intelligence, tremendous knowledge of gulf countries as being ambassador in gulf countries.

    • @AjitKumar-lo9yu
      @AjitKumar-lo9yu Před 3 dny +4

      Do not joke, I bet he earned that position because of his ...., nothing else 😂😂😂

    • @thebestevertherewas
      @thebestevertherewas Před 3 dny

      Nope
      Another Indian Muslim for Muslim Brotherhood

  • @kvniyer1
    @kvniyer1 Před 14 hodinami +1

    If US and UK can supply weapons to israel why not india. The muslim author should be proud that india from being a importer of arms to now exporter of arms only because of Atma Nirbhar Bharat of PM Modi. And israel has the right to existence as Palestinians voted hamas who promised to wipe out jews and israel. And it was hamas who started war not israel.

  • @Hudda4some1
    @Hudda4some1 Před 3 dny +2

    It's a nice discussion but why all focus is on India.? what has the other Western countries have done until now? and what have Arab countries done by themselves ?

  • @kanbayramsey
    @kanbayramsey Před dnem +7

    A clear Islamic bias

    • @fh8047
      @fh8047 Před dnem +3

      you are prejudiced too

    • @sk61186
      @sk61186 Před 35 minutami

      ​@@fh8047his eyes are open and he is unbiased and honest.

  • @hirakumarsingh9595
    @hirakumarsingh9595 Před 2 dny +2

    Except trade relationship, none of the Arab countries supported India when attacked by its neighbours. On Kashmir issues, these countries have supported the Pakistani line. Our old policies proved toothless.For India, India first policy needs to be followed.

  • @sandipmitra4102
    @sandipmitra4102 Před 3 dny +4

    The Ambassador's question whether our sale of weapons to Israel is guided by a communal ideology has the answer embedded in the question . In fact, he himself said a few minutes later that our foreign policy is increasingly guided by a communal agenda. Strong words, but absolutely spot on.

  • @mitalfuria6212
    @mitalfuria6212 Před 3 dny

    Mr. Thapar, sometimes it's better to understand the unsaid. Truth was spoken by him & yes he was reluctant to put it in words coz he is a sensible & aware the repercussions can be serious.

    • @thebestevertherewas
      @thebestevertherewas Před 3 dny

      The Muslim Brotherhood will not come to save India, against Pakistan or China !
      Even the US,Russia stood by during the Kargil war !
      It was Israel who supported India !
      The Muslims Brotherhood is not the global south

  • @Cabnobeco
    @Cabnobeco Před 18 hodinami

    Best

  • @KirenKK-te7pb
    @KirenKK-te7pb Před 17 hodinami

    Search your soul of logic. Does Israel with an NATO inventory and quality requirement need Indian Arms or munition? How much of India's production can be used by Israel?

    • @sk61186
      @sk61186 Před 51 minutou

      I can smell something burning.

  • @PRAKASH10001000
    @PRAKASH10001000 Před dnem +5

    It makes perfect sense to sell weapons to Israel because Israel is under attack by a Zahil Kaum which is incidentally always act against India from within.

  • @asheeshshah1963
    @asheeshshah1963 Před 3 dny +6

    Muslims hv lost all the rights to advice n comment on modi govt by not voting for bjp..its the modi govts prerogative to adopt a foreign policy tht suits the govt..mr Ahmad must wait for congress, SP or tmc to form govt n then give them advice...israel n russia hv bn long lasting friends n bjp knows how to treat friends....no preaching sir...sorry....this hs bcome all too niche...btw which party hv u voted ?

    • @suryaprakash72771
      @suryaprakash72771 Před dnem

      If India is still a functioning democracy every citizen has the right to make comments and give advice on matters of national and public importance

  • @jonathanm4019
    @jonathanm4019 Před 2 dny +2

    The same arab countries want us to leave kashmir as well , acto abdool here we should vacate it as well ??

  • @user-go2tt8od3i
    @user-go2tt8od3i Před 3 dny +1

    Nothing is going to India's way neither nationally nor internstionally, as India is not assessing Indian's position in the Gulf country.

  • @firna1864
    @firna1864 Před 2 dny

    We need to wait and see. India was non align but still had relations with USSR which is no more... As he said new world order is emerging,
    People would trade as usual but, we stand to lose in many other aspects. The abstract readings cannot be decoded. People with hatred cannot read..

    • @sk61186
      @sk61186 Před 32 minutami

      That's why muslim world has no great university. No contribution to knowledge and humanity except the appropriation of Indian knowledge, and selling it as Arbaic knowledge.

  • @Desikakarot
    @Desikakarot Před 25 minutami

    Why don’t we sell weapons and pocket big profits, thereby boosting our own domestic arms industry ? Isn’t it ok to keep concerns over what’s happening in some part of world away from business ?

  • @adityaparange6311
    @adityaparange6311 Před dnem

    Israel helped us in all our wars while the Palestine supported Pakistan. It is morally justified to help them in any way we can. What rubbish this guy is talking , Oct 7 was an act of aggression by and external force

  • @RakibAhmed66
    @RakibAhmed66 Před 3 dny +1

    Thank u Talmiz ahmad sahab

  • @vaishakh3
    @vaishakh3 Před 3 dny +5

    Russia commits massacre.
    US commits massacre.does it mean India must not look for its self interest and stop trading with everyone.? This is why lot of people have been asked to go to Pakistan. Because lot of people have a body in Indian territory, but mind in foreign territory

    • @sk61186
      @sk61186 Před 10 minutami

      Not only the mind in other country but also the allegiance to other countries.

  • @teresavarghese1177
    @teresavarghese1177 Před 3 dny +2

    Better to close companies in India that involve Israel in any way.

  • @Diparun123
    @Diparun123 Před 3 dny +5

    Very good discussion

  • @sandeepgupta-oz3tw
    @sandeepgupta-oz3tw Před 3 dny +10

    This muslim, Pakistan i ambassador is lying through his teeth. Only Israel helped India during Kargil. But this man is a Pakistani and wrong man to ask this question. Any Indian will remember and be grateful for Israels assistance and reciprocate in the hour of their need. Plus it helps our defence industry.

    • @fh8047
      @fh8047 Před dnem

      Oho Gupta ji gyaan baant रहे हैं

    • @sandeepgupta-oz3tw
      @sandeepgupta-oz3tw Před dnem

      @@fh8047muslim don't want India to help Israel because their loyalty lies with umma and Pakistan. they will always side with Pakistan and Palestine never with India.

  • @manojchakrabarty758
    @manojchakrabarty758 Před dnem +8

    Proud of Indian government...
    We have to stand with Israel during their difficult times. we must not forget what they did for is 1971 and 1999.

    • @TripleAAA787
      @TripleAAA787 Před dnem +2

      What you fools dont realise is its patron US supported Pakistan in Kargil war

    • @ahmadbilal5201
      @ahmadbilal5201 Před dnem +2

      ask your forefathers who fought occupation forces decades.....are you justifying occupation??

    • @manojchakrabarty758
      @manojchakrabarty758 Před dnem

      @@ahmadbilal5201 Our Forefathers fought you...we supported the British in overthrowing the Barbarian Regime of Nawab of Bengal...Siraj Ud Doula.
      Basically with help of Christian Brothers we dismantled the Islamic Regime in India.

    • @manojchakrabarty758
      @manojchakrabarty758 Před dnem

      @@TripleAAA787 Democrats always support Pakistan.
      Republican support India...
      Just see George Bush and Trump.

    • @suryaprakash72771
      @suryaprakash72771 Před dnem +1

      @@manojchakrabarty758nice sanghi propaganda 😂😂😂

  • @biswajitbordoloi8092
    @biswajitbordoloi8092 Před 3 dny +7

    INDIA IS NOW A CAPITALIST STATE... SO PEOPLE SHOULD FORGET NEHRUVIAN ERA OF MORALITY... LIKE PLEBISCITE FOR KASHMIR... SUPPORT FOR PALESTINE CAUSE..ETC...

    • @thebestevertherewas
      @thebestevertherewas Před 3 dny +1

      When will Pakistan conduct a plebiscite?
      Why has pakistan settled a huge amount of pakistanis in POK ?

  • @JobPrabhakaran-pv9tf
    @JobPrabhakaran-pv9tf Před 4 hodinami

    Hi Karen. Why do you get castrated men (helpless or people who don't have any power) to participate in your talks. These guys usually say "the people of India " have done this , know this, and say this and such. The majority which has put Mr. Modi and his team ARE THE PEOPLE who qualify for the KNOW ALLS. SO kindly get some people who are worth their salt. Hope you will do the correction. Thank you.
    We make and sell things. How to use is the buyers wish.
    If one buys a knife and by accident or by choice if he /she cuts up self can the knife seller be morally, spiritually, thisly or thatly be responsible for the users choice?
    Business is business Boss.
    One's food is the other's poison.
    So take it easy. That's life. Grow up man.
    Why don't you sermon the USA about all that good things you think are good for mankind. May be the world will become a better place.
    Just wondering ....why you guys are not in the right places??????.
    Regards.

  • @nirmalbhel3231
    @nirmalbhel3231 Před 2 dny +6

    Israel supported India when India needed. India must support Israel

    • @fh8047
      @fh8047 Před dnem +2

      And what about the arab support to india? Millions of indians earn livelihoods in arab countries accounting for $70 billion in foreign remmitances to india that helps support families back home

    • @nandantavkar
      @nandantavkar Před 14 hodinami

      Israel was not supporting India. Israel did not bestow arms to India. They SOLD them at 4x the price. It was a business deal.
      As with business, we CAN still make a stand to NOT sell arms to Israel because they are using it to kill thousands of innocent children, women and men.

  • @sandhyas1292
    @sandhyas1292 Před 14 hodinami

    Wire, it is not good for you to support and be a platform for Palesthine pr agency. Israel has every right to protect their citizens. What do you mean Genocide?? Compare the percentage of palesthine population in 1948- 2024 to world population ratios. It is 20 times more than world average

  • @eastorwestindiabest1332
    @eastorwestindiabest1332 Před 3 dny +3

    Good discussion. But the problem is andh bhakts have creeped everywhere. Even the objective views are seen with communal lenses.

    • @VermaRajinder
      @VermaRajinder Před 3 dny +3

      Elucidate this - Why must Indians not help the Israelis on a reciprocal basis .... They have helped India no end AND it is only Ammunition ... Ammunition can go all over the World rather circuitously with absolutely no strings of traceability. The Americans can export to Israel and India can replenish the US .... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ibrahimmbbarva-se4mk
    @ibrahimmbbarva-se4mk Před 3 dny +12

    Israel + rss new bjp mentality no different

    • @Harry.choudhary
      @Harry.choudhary Před 2 dny +1

      just like mohmad did, why you are angry at them they are doing just like your prophet did

    • @Rexorazor
      @Rexorazor Před 2 dny

      ​@@Harry.choudhary ????? What????

    • @rajkumarganesan9417
      @rajkumarganesan9417 Před 2 dny

      Rightly pointed out. And that the land of Land of Palestine gifted by the Colonial Empire of the British to the migrant Israelis from allover the world where the Palestinians outnumbered the Israelis and that the GoI arming the Israeli army is called - genocide against humanity. Can't the Palestinians have a separate Home Land❓. My heart bleeds.

    • @nirmalbhel3231
      @nirmalbhel3231 Před 2 dny +1

      @@rajkumarganesan9417 Whose land it was originally.... Israel wants to live in peace, gave that land to Hamas. What Hamas did took aid from world, increased the population by 10 times, attacked back to Israel

  • @noname_nocontent
    @noname_nocontent Před 3 dny +2

    wonderful journalism

  • @rajivkumar-gw3ig
    @rajivkumar-gw3ig Před 3 dny +3

    The entire conversation is much ado about nothing.

  • @amania9254
    @amania9254 Před 3 dny +4

    Modaniji's hypocrisy is the best one of his Master Strokes.

  • @simplyhuman5115
    @simplyhuman5115 Před 3 dny

    It's a tragedy

  • @vapour3896
    @vapour3896 Před 3 dny +7

    Religion speaks ,sir names determine sides,why doesnt he ask hamas to return the hostages and stop shooting missiles from behind children and women .... We may not agree with one political party but as a country we must stand against terrorists!

  • @durgeshchaudhary8847
    @durgeshchaudhary8847 Před 3 dny

    Yai log English mai bol kar bara aadami samjata hai lakin es bara mukh koi aur nahi hai

  • @nssoni9363
    @nssoni9363 Před 2 dny +1

    During kargil war, israel helped india with weapons,us refused due sanction on india,

  • @shawnawasthi
    @shawnawasthi Před 2 dny

    The world doesn't work on morals.stand with your friends.

  • @maxyogi
    @maxyogi Před 3 dny +1

    Talmiz always will be awesome!
    He's pure Technical Diplomat of the highest level.

  • @ThunderLightStrikes
    @ThunderLightStrikes Před 10 hodinami

    Thank god he is no longer in foreign service. Realpolitik was introduced by P M Modi, I do not support him and voted against him but Indian foreign policy is being run at its best under Modi and Jaishankar. Muslims need to stop putting sectarian interests over national interests.

  • @NasirKhan-fx8hq
    @NasirKhan-fx8hq Před 3 dny +5

    Mr. Ahmed speak the truth related to today’s India’s foreign policy. Unfortunately today’s Indian top leadership engaged in anti muslims sentiments for their political gains. Israel is losing and taking sides of rogue state will shows only communal mentality.

    • @VermaRajinder
      @VermaRajinder Před 3 dny +2

      Israel is losing ???
      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
      Find a Doctor you need good Medicine !!!
      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @AmanRaj-bv6yv
      @AmanRaj-bv6yv Před 3 dny +3

      In kargil war Israel helped india so now India must help israel either it is wrong or right. This is indias moral duty.

    • @VermaRajinder
      @VermaRajinder Před 3 dny +1

      @@AmanRaj-bv6yv ....... Absolutely !!!

    • @Utkarsh-qz7bf
      @Utkarsh-qz7bf Před 2 dny +1

      Gaza ka Baja Baja Diya , Israel is loosing 😆😆😆😆😆​@@VermaRajinder

    • @VermaRajinder
      @VermaRajinder Před 2 dny

      @@Utkarsh-qz7bf ... Absolutely!!! 😁😁😁😁

  • @trignal
    @trignal Před 2 dny +1

    I'm old enough to remember Yasser Arafat crying when Indira Gandhi was assassinated. How far they have sunk. They have lost all morality over their hatred for Muslims.

  • @pradipray1251
    @pradipray1251 Před 3 dny +4

    Hey, islamophilic thaper discuss the steps tajikistan has taken on islamic allien arabic culture.

  • @ayushgandhi577
    @ayushgandhi577 Před 2 dny +1

    What about pok ?? Which arab countries support india on pok and kashmir??
    What nonsense this ambassador says directors of arab world want morally to decide india to support israel or not

  • @alexjoy9693
    @alexjoy9693 Před 3 dny +6

    Mans just yapping

  • @AjitKumar-lo9yu
    @AjitKumar-lo9yu Před 3 dny +1

    Since when has Indian foreign policy been hostage to the whimsical thinking of Muslim brotherhood. Why is this babu discussing about defence related matters through his narrow minded ulterior motives.

  • @drpawanjainpj
    @drpawanjainpj Před 3 dny +1

    Hamas is a civilian community ?

  • @kny2311
    @kny2311 Před 2 dny

    bs

  • @avinashdurge6512
    @avinashdurge6512 Před 3 dny +1

    If India supplying weapon to Israel... It's very bad... It's not our foreign policy... In Independent India... India is Humanitarian basis should not sell weapons to war countries... It's shows our Hypocrisy..

    • @Harry.choudhary
      @Harry.choudhary Před 2 dny +1

      where your moral goes when kashmir, west bengal, went out of your hand?

  • @eng.anwaaralawi7790
    @eng.anwaaralawi7790 Před 3 dny +3

    The Modi 3.0 will see that changes , how to continue the Immoral and Communal policies of RSS as per their Book Hindutva the Doctrine of Religious Apartheid.
    God save mother India .
    Jai Palestine !!!

  • @nasirqureshi1785
    @nasirqureshi1785 Před 3 dny

    फिलस्तीन का संघर्ष कभी भी यहुदी-मुस्लिम नहीं रहा है। क्रिसमस और ईस्टर पर बैथलहेम के पास्टर मुतज़ेर आइजक की स्पीच सुनिये।

    • @Harry.choudhary
      @Harry.choudhary Před 2 dny

      mohmad nfrt krta tha kyuki ve poerful log the to usne unko dusman bnaya liya or koi reason nhi tha.

  • @Abhishek-tf2vo
    @Abhishek-tf2vo Před 3 dny +5

    Dual loyalty 😜
    Or only loyalty for ummah

  • @gajenbarman8194
    @gajenbarman8194 Před 3 dny +1

    Nupur sarma is main reasons for sending weapons to Israel. Indian Muslims when criminalize our Hindus God's..why not they Arab nation not take action against Muslims culprits.

  • @omprakashacharya885
    @omprakashacharya885 Před dnem +1

    India must see, who is controlling the world both economic and militarily just aligned from a little distance which is beneficial for us.

    • @fh8047
      @fh8047 Před dnem +1

      So no ethics or morality then? Just align with whoever is stronger. Nice! And call it chanakya neeti

    • @omprakashacharya885
      @omprakashacharya885 Před dnem

      Be practical go with the flow... They are the ruling world in the past, doing the same now, in future will be doing it. Better be at their side, at least we'll make our life somewhat better. Had we been with the US since independence, Kashmir was not an issue, Pakistan was not a threat. Non alignment policy results we are always to deal with 2 front now 3 front defense. We are crying about the govt not investing in education public facilities.

  • @mechanzie
    @mechanzie Před 3 dny +2

    Shouldnt ask such question to a person who is emotional on the issue

  • @ShivendraMishra-km9su
    @ShivendraMishra-km9su Před 2 dny +2

    Israil helped us in
    Kargil
    It's our duty to help
    Isrile
    Morals cant drive foren policy

  • @sharathahuja8261
    @sharathahuja8261 Před 3 dny

    What are arms for. Ayudh Pooja.

  • @ShyamBazari
    @ShyamBazari Před 3 dny +15

    I am shocked and surprised to learn that a semi-radicalized Islamist served as an Indian diplomat. Regarding Palestine, according to him, the entire responsibility for morality and the decision of the International Court of Justice falls on India, not on the Islamic nations neighboring Palestine, who show little concern for the plight of the Palestinians. Notice how he skillfully described the long-term national interests of the Islamic world in avoiding the Palestinian issue, completely disregarding India's national interest in maintaining its relationship with Israel. Unfortunately, India faces a greater threat from such Islamist intellectuals within its borders than from external enemies. He also gleefully highlighted the protests from the Islamic world against Nupur Sharma, when every Indian should have stood united, telling foreigners to stay out of our internal issues. It seems he belongs to the brigade propagating lies, as what Nupur Sharma did was quote a Hadith, which is considered a holy text in Islam. Her tone and manner could have been better, but it must be noted that she was reacting to something said against her beliefs.

    • @VermaRajinder
      @VermaRajinder Před 3 dny +4

      Why was this Guy selected to be an Ambassador to Saudi Arabia .... Was he meant to profess the Indian view or push the Islamic ideas to India ??? Has this B said anything against the HAMAS ??? Why is the HAMAS not wrong in its single minded Anti Israeli policies ??? Can Indians Not Trade - Who ALONE has the Right Trade & Why ???

    • @suryaprakash72771
      @suryaprakash72771 Před dnem

      @@VermaRajinderwhy shouldn’t Hamas oppose the Zionist state for its continued occupation and subjugation of Palestine? Did we Indians allow the British to continually occupy our homeland till today?

  • @Arghyajyoti
    @Arghyajyoti Před 3 dny +1

    Why does Wire always come up with something so absurd! Israel will exist and India will help, irrespective of ICJ or UN. We will help whoever helped us.
    No support to Hamas terrorists. If the beginning was different it would be a different matter. As long as Ummah is against Israel, we will help Kafirs against Islamic terrorism.😂