Season 4 Kind Of Butchered Ezran’s Character⎮A Dragon Prince Discussion
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- čas přidán 26. 01. 2023
- Oh hey, another video complaining about a plot development ( or lack thereof), in the Dragon Prince's latest season. This time, we take Ezran and his arc under the microscope, and explain why it feels a little bit botched, and perhaps how it could have been improved this season... or indeed going forward into the future. Enjoy.
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Generally speaking kings are bad adventure characters. You can send princes or princesses in a story to an adventure. But a king should not be on a adventure. Ezran in season 4 should be dealing with kingly duties. In season 4 ezran seems to be a crazy king. The baker is now the ministry of crust and jelly. Ezran shouldnt have travelled to the earth dragon. I mean in the first 3 seasons they made a huge deal that the princes are absent.
The baker is the most powerful user of cake magic in Catholis, is a veteran of many battles and is unquestionably loyal to his king.
He deserves that place.
@@malakimphoros2164 Do you think that it was idiotic to appoint a baker to the council?
To me it seems like a lot of the characters got sabotaged and dumbed down to make Aaravos seem like a bigger threat. Literally everyone in this season felt off.
There's also the story of the other prince the story is named after, Zym.
Zym was ruined as a character. He went from Appa to Momo. In season 1, he was an egg and couldn't really have any character. Season 2, he needed to learn how to fly and be a proper dragon. He was also clearly a sort of wholesome center of the group that kept everyone going. Season 3, getting ready to meet his mother and being the cause of a war was getting to him. Season 4 should be on a sort of "Sins of the Father" arc, right? NO! They tried, but they failed to hell and back! He goes from an interesting animal character with development, to a spoiled Scooby-Doo.
Yeah, the "everything Avizandum did was to protect Xadia"... I wish it was precise that Ezran only said this to defend Zym, to shield him, to spare him the horrible arc "sins of the father" Ezran himself had to endure. But no, we are supposed to think Ezran is saying this seriously and is right...
I think Ezra should’ve stayed behind in S4, with an arc showing he needs help governing but doesn’t want it. However it isn’t due to arrogance, but overprotectiveness: he always wants everyone to be ok, so he tries to rule alone si no one else becomes a target.
We’d be able to see the rulers of the other kingdoms and flesh them out, some would try to manipulate him to war again and others wanting peace like him. His seasonal arc would end with him admitting the trauma he has to the Dragon prince and some of his confidants, which in turn helps him see that he doesn’t need to be constantly trying to protect everyone, especially from himself.
I knew I wasn't tripping when I thought Ezran was slowly morphing into a weird version of Steven Universe.
Never thought of it that way but you're right
NOT THE STEVEN UNIVERSE 💀💀💀
Huh?
Steven universe is already super weird, you mean he’s a B.L.A.Ccccc.KKKK Steven U.
@@Artryomyoure weird lol
I agree totally.
Ezran is a tired pastiche of himself from s 1-3. This is how you do time skips wrong. He is in a three year older body, but has not aged, developed or changed in any other way. And he remains curiously static, mabye because they feel that he has already completed his arc and is in a pretty good place. But then he leaves to go on an irresponsible adventure, so in some ways it feels like a reset. To be honest, his writing feels like if someone told that chat-bot to write a couple of typical Ezran-scenes based on what he did in previous scenes.
And I also agree that the sun elf conflict would have needed some serious rewriting. Keeping Ezran around would have been one way change it for the better, but not enough in itself. But that whole mess actually deserves a video on its own, so I'll leave it at that.
"To be honest, his writing feels like if someone told that chat-bot to write a couple of typical Ezran-scenes based on what he did in previous scenes."
I wouldn't have said it better.
Part of me wonders if Opeli or Callum himself would be a better option as leader of the Katolis
Also,yeah you have a good point. Ezran would have made the Sunfire elf conflict more interesting
Ezran became a elf apologists. - most people
Ezran was nobody's favorite character to begin with, so when season 4 made everything worse, it pushed him down to being one of the most disliked and forgotten characters in the show.
I agree I feel like he should have grown and matured a bit and do his king things. Plus is he stayed in the kingdom Rayla and Callum can work things out like in season 3 when Ezrna wasn’t their
I agree with your take, I think you hit the nail on the head. Ezran should have stayed behind and later joined the sunfire elves conflict, while Callum and Rayla worked on their relationship. It's a shame this season wasn't as good as the other three, hopefully the next one will be better!
While Callum and Rayla had clear cut character arcs, Ezran always felt out of place like the writers didn't know what to do with him.
He had the whole being able to talk to animals thing and they make you think they're gonna explore that and how he feels different from others but nope, it's just a thing he can do. Or explore his struggle having to govern as king at such a young age but nope. He has some trouble in season 3 but by season 4 he's giving his father a run for his money with all the inspirational speeches.
To me, he's always been a questionable character. And that's not to mention how he's advertised as one of the main characters, but has to constantly be given excuses as to why he can follow the others on the main quest.
I legit did not even remember he could talk to animals
I feel like ezran would have been better off if they made b plot dedicated to him and his roler ship but giving us a character like glimmer from she ra doing that plus adding world building would have made the show better by a ton and gave us and explanation about his powers and gave us a grand mistake from the pressure and responsibility ending up the plot for chapter 3
Tbh in the beginning of the season the way Ezran handling king's position feels really funny and childish which doesn't fit for King actually.(ex:-giving those funny positions for others in council) I know Ezran is still a kid but he's also the king people around him trying not to give a burden to Ezran (I appreciate that) but in oder to grow as a king he need those.King's position is not usually a peaceful one to deal with.
His arc in season 3 wasn't that good.
I mean it was good : he was shown to be under insane pressure, the weight of the crown under the threat of all-out war, let alone for a kid. He really wants everyone to make it out of it alive. But he says to Kasef how he views things, but he fails to see that from Kasef's perspective, it doesn't make any sense to say that Xadia wants peace. He fails to see things from his perspective. His good intentions end up getting him manipulated and banged up, in an ambiguous manner similar to Harrow's death. It's unclear whether they were escaping responsibilities or accepting them in their most gruesome sides. And I love this.
Until the final battle. I just can't agree with the way Ezran immediately agrees to burn people alive, including his own people.
Ezran has to first refuse to burn his people. And after the battle, he hates himself for trying to do it.
Ezran tortured himself for five episodes trying to keep them safe. Sparing their lives also was the entire point of bringing Zym back. So just burning them all with no hesitation or remorse doesn't make any sense. Someone in the team, Ezran most of all, should object to this, and vehemently.
To me, the way the show spent three seasons advocating against violence only to resolve all its conflicts by massacring people, and dehumanized these people to absolve the heroes from the very moral burden that was the point of the show, and the way the show presented that as a triumph, is outrageous.
If season III has to end on a final battle to end the war, frame it in a tragic way. Zuko's victory over Azula was by no means celebratory and glorious.
Based on Aaravos' dressing down, I think Ezran's arc throughout these seasons is meant to be specifically about his naivete and how in over his head he is. If that's the case, then it'd make sense for them to play that aspect of his character up in the set-up.
Speaking of Aaravos, I feel like the writers are building up the fact he's an "asshole with a point" character
i like that you note that if ezran stayed for the sunfire elves plot, the peacekeeper between calum and rayla is gone. that would have been great
but I also think in addition to your point of ezran being like his father, is for him and callum to be a kind of parallel to his father and viren. brothers with one being king and the other the court mage
what if callum is initially in charge of magic research to help humans like viren, but ezran is wary to keep him going too far like viren. but they have more trust in each other compared to their predesessor
it would also work if ezran also became more mature and busy with king duties, but shows he stil loves his brother. but because he is king he has less time with callum and end up hammering home how alone callum feels especially with rayla gone
I feel like he cares more about dragons than his own people
I don't really think Ezran was badly written this season. Just that he didn't have much to do since most of his problems and arcs already happened in the first 3 seasons. But now that you mention it, him being a part of the Sunfire elf plot would have made it so much better and more enjoyable! And would have given Ezran something to actually do this season, instead of just following Callum and Rayla to bring peace to the lands of Xadia AGAIN!
Honestly this season felt like they had originally expected the show to be cancelled after season 3 but still had General ideas ideas in basic story beats on where to take the story if they happened to get renewed for more seasons. I think the issues with writing this season and probably season 5 is the fact that after they announced that they got renewed for season 4 through 7 they said that they were working on seasons 4 5 and 6 at the same time and when you add in remote work in the pandemic when they got this news it shows that it was less cohesive the seasons before and I think they really should have just focused on one season at a time
I think a quote from Rick and Morty can summarize season 4 of dragon prince “in many ways things will be like season 1 but more streamlined” but in this case it was streamlined in the worst way (Beth).
You never miss with your takes.
4:03, though quite a lot of the many problems with the season could have been averted by just not having the time skip
Also how the fck his voice didn't change? That really bothered me to be honest. He a young adult now...he still sounds the same.
They retconned his age from 12 to 11 so they "didn't have to fire a voice actress".
It’s weird how Opeli wanted to find Ezran and Callum so Ezran could take the throne last season but this season practically edges him to go off on an adventure. After everything they went through with Viren usurping the throne you’d think she would want Ezran there ruling Katolis not going on an adventure.
If you had to deal with Ezran and his way of ruling the kingdom, you might well end up doing the same. For me, Opeli is the only person who by some miracle keeps the country up and running.
@@AnnaMaria-mt5yf Oh I’m sure she’s had enough with Ezran and his pacifist ways lol Im just saying it was weird. ☺️She kinda annoyed me in s5 with Rayla too.
He doesn’t really suck, he just fulfilling his dusty as a King. He’s still the same boy from the previous seasons.
But I have to disagree with u on ezran not coming sure him coming was a useless but it gave us a line from Rex “ you look just like her “ giving us more explanation on the plot and character
man ):
I wanted to type an argument after just seeing the title but youre kinda just RIGHT
FUCK
I love these videos! These reviews are always so detailed and smart. Guess that’s why he’s called Smarty Pants
I feel like the show should get him kidnapped by Claudia and Terry so then a other human kid can rescue him (so he gets a friend and isn’t a third wheel) and bring him back to Callum so then since Ezra isn’t around Rayllum could sort thing out or bring him back to he kingdom to get Katolis ready if Aarovos gets out just an idea
BRING BACK AVA
@@snazzyjazz6969 I thought of Elise and Ava but I feel like we should get a new character because than there can be character development or something like the friend who I thought should be a girl her parents died fighting for Viren and is sad or something because then their character could grow and so could Ezran’s as well by making a friend that understands how he feels about his dad Idk just a thought
I love how Ezran was when he was a kid and now he's grown up. He had to grow up a little bit in order to be a good king. And Ezran is a way better king then his father was. Because Ezran said that he doesn't want to be a part of a war that started years before he was even born. So instead of causing more problems he was doing the right thing and was trying to make peace with Dragons even though his father said they was dangerous. And now that Ezran didn't listen to anyone else when they all told him that dragons was a bad idea. Ezran can now tell people that he can call The Dragon Queen his friend and she will be there to help him in battle if he needs her help.
(🤓)
6:19, that would have worked a lot better than what they did
I don't know mate. There wasn't any reason for him staying in Katolis. At least non that we were shown. In earlier seasons he was trying to prevent a war. But now, the kindom is at peace and Aaravos is posing a thread to everyone. So trying to solve that is the best way to serve his people.
Also I think it is pretty bold of him to try to built bridges between Katolis and Xadia. And his speech at Zubea's visit holds a lot of wisdom and captures the message that is at the heart of this whole show: the hard work of choosing peace and breaking the cycle of violence. That is some powerful stuff for a kids show.
And why can't he still also be lighthearted and playful? He is only 13 by now. Why is a burdened and somber character better than a cheerful one?
What I don't like is his idea to solve the Aaravos-prison-puzzle and everyone, even wise old Zubea, to go along with it without ever questioning how that could play exactly into Aaravos' hands.
And also the human world in TDP is never really explored and therefor feels very boring. So everyone just wants to go to Xadia because it's much more fun.
maybe you should focus on the fact that ezran is a mary sue character.
Maybe that’s just his trauma Y’know? he thinks he has to be a big inspiration all the time he has basically been cheated out of his childhood (also in season 5 soren comments on this in episode 2-3 sorta) he can’t think like an adult because he’s only a kid but like many of kids in this generation he acts older but at the same time not always making the best decisions
Tbh I never really liked Ezra’s before hand, but he was unbearable in season 4. Somehow he seems less mature and more naive despite being older.
Ezran is less mature at 11 than he was at 9. Also at 3:31 Ezran didn't have Viren arrested. It was Opeli. Viren murdered the other Kings & Queens before he became king.
Ezran may be the first born of king Harrow, but he’s a second board of Queen Sarai. I think Callum should be king, because he’s the first born of Queen Sarai.
That's not how monarchy works
@@ManiyaVinas I didn’t even like his father from before.
The child set to inherit the throne has to be from a sitting royal and since Callum was born from Sarai’s previous, non royal marriage (I’m assuming she was married before? Honestly stopped watching sometime in season 2 or so) that only makes him the step-son of Harrow, thus not in line for the throne.
That’s the way most basic monarchs are when it comes to lines of succession.
@@jendoe9436 Harrow wanted Sarai to help him deliver a baby, but wanted to leave Callum out of it, so he kind of stole her from him. That’s the reason why I didn’t like him. Sorry, but Callum is the firstborn of Sarai, not Ezran. And of course, Ezran didn’t want to be king. So I would rather vote Callum to be King.
He doesn't have "royal blood"
The heir to the throne it's the first born of the current/previous King. Callum's father's son is Ezran, not Callum, that's why he can't be a king, and that's why Soren used to joke with him about "half-prince"
The one ruling and coming from royal family was Harrow, Sarai just married him and became queen because of that, and she had already had a kid. Her son can't be next in line because he's not the son of the king, that's Ezran
Callum it's not blood-related to the king
Most of the returning characters stagnated.
Season 4 sucks🫤
Am I actually first!?
All and all ezran my be better of being a glimmer remake
I barely notice or cared about Ezran thought the whole show. Also the show doesn't want to do politicks.
i dont really like ezran and i really hope we dont have to waith to long for season 5
I swear this is the fourth or fifth video going on about how bad season 4 of The Dragon Prince is. At this point you’re just flogging a dead horse.
King Ezran sounds like a girl to me.. A boy wouldn't act like that. A boy that age would have learned to sword fight atleast.. woops. The voice actor is a girl..
“Butchered Ezran’s character.” Over dramatic because he really only stagnated a season of the show. Nothing about Ezran here is different than in season 1-3. So butchered is not only clickbait, it’s wildly inaccurate.
Also your points in this video 100% absolutely suck.
The nice sweet Prince having a Minister of Peasants? Like you are projecting a jaded character onto Ezran because you can’t accept the fact Ezran won’t be that jaded character.
>a season
After a 2 year timeskip that brings no character growth. This is illogical.
>your points suck
So adress them.
>peasants
You must mean agriculture. There is no slavery in Catholis, only monster sacrifice.
Good try neverthless.
@@malakimphoros2164 He’s still objectively wrong.
@@vibezonegaming Prove it with arguments to validate your opinion.
@@malakimphoros2164 I don’t need to, y’all are the ones saying his character has “been butchered.” All his traumatic events happened before our eyes in seasons 1-3, what do you think was gonna change about him after those changes? Nothing! Because the kingdom has been at peace. He may be a king but as Opeli said in season 3 he’s “a kid who should focus on becoming his own/growing up.” That still means getting his childhood, he’s only 11.
His vision for Ezran is still delusional and objectively wrong.
Smarty Pants in a nutshell