The features and specs are great, of course, but to me the biggest thing is that Sony has really changed their colors to something that I now find very appealing. I have disliked Sony's color for a long time, and thus not paid any attention to their cameras, but what is coming out of the A7S III and the FX6 is very much getting my attention!
@@CineD Especially the free RAW-Output, never thought they would do this, but I highly appreciate it. Can't wait to get my hands on this awesome little device! Thanks for the great review.
The Sony FX6 looks incredible! How good was the autofocus with the adapter? I see you used a sigma 24-70 2.8 and the sigma MC-11 adapter. What was the tele lens? Great first look video, Nino!
The autofocus with the Sigma adapter and the Sigma lenses is great! That's why I bought the adapter. Unfortunately doesn't work so well with a Metabones and the Canon lenses. Nino
Try viltrox ef-nex iv with the latest firmware. Autofocus works 80% with canon lenses (but not sigma lens) using cdaf. Works great with my a73 and a6500
@8:30 As you are saying it, i was thinking to sell my FS7 for the FX6 ... Small enough for gimbalwork, and the possibility to easily make a shoulder rig with the FX9 loupe and a zacuto baseplate ..
Another great review. Thank you so much. So do you think that Canon C 70 cannot compete with this? I have so many Canon lenses and I’m just sad to switch
I think it can ... both seem to be great cameras with great codecs and decent slow-motion. Both tick most of my boxes. Have to take a closer look at the C70 again. Both of them suffer from the lack of an EVF.
You didn't talk much about the "crispness" of the downsampled from 6K resolution of the FX9.....compared to the 4k sensor of the FX6. That's an important difference.
I didn't do a side-by-side yet but I am sure there is a bit more "crispiness". But to be honest the difference will be not be a huge deal, I'm with ToksVision here.
Does this camera have the "end-trigger" record mode for slow motion bursts? That is primarily what I'm using for wildlife so I don't miss the moment an eagle takes off for instance. I don't like to record continuously.
Do you guys think that HDMI raw output is limited by hardware? It doesn't make sense that you can't use the Ninja V to record ProRes Raw in this small body.
Very good and informative video Nino 👏 Thank you 🙏 What a beast the FX6 💪🏼😉 🎥 really cool review and awesome footage 😀 i think this could be my new cam 👍🏻 best cinematic greetings from a small german filmmaker
I used the Sigma EF-E Adapter, but a Metabones would work as well. However don't forget that the AF on that lens won't work with either adapter properly. The only EF lenses I got to work with AF were the Sigmas using their own adapter.
Thank you Nino. I have the FS5 and I've spent 4 years editing out the horrible yellow green tinge out of everything. It is just awful in mixed lighting situations. It is actually so bad I'm considering selling all of my kit including lenses and buying the Komodo. How does the FX6 compare?
I feel you, I also found the FS5 to be a very noisy camera (compared to the FS7) which always surprised me. I think it all comes down to the weak XAVC-L codec ... without having done a deep dive on the FX6 colors yet, my feeling is that it's dealing with it much better. The a7S III is, and so should the FX6. Nino
Outstanding job from Sony, all the amazing specs of the a7S III combined with a compact cinema camera body, it doesn’t get much better than this. Will definitely get one or two.
@@proteus1 Mr. Bloom himself admitted he was being largely nit picky and that it’s a phenomenal camera - his frustration stems from getting used to the a7S iii’s more intuitive user interface, although I agree not including object tracking AF is absurd and probably my biggest gripe with this camera, but overall I think you’ll eventually get used to interfacing with the FX6 and it will be a great camera
Thanks for the review! Does it have preview LUT for the monitor while shooting s-log or the new cine profile? I remember the FS7 had it but the FS5 didn't.
With the FX9 and the 2019 version of Catalyst, E-mount lenses were mandatory. Sony doen't say anything about the new 2020 version of Catalyst... I assume it means nothing changed on this point.
Put 4k 120 in fx9 and allow external raw via sdi without the addon back. That 6k sensor will still outperform the fx6 but thats for pixel peeping. Save the fx9 buyers sony!
Can you record other than ProRes RAW from the FX6, for instance just ProRes 422? and do I need this Atomos recordes with a monitor I dont want a monitor, just a recorder ! And, where do I buy an eye vierwwfinder like on the FX9`?, I can find any store selling parts .
Just checked with Sony, Clear Image zoom is indeed there (also updated the post), it's 1.5x in 4K. Yes you are right, that might work on some lenses. But I think this is not a full quality mode, otherwise Sony would have called it a crop mode. This has to be interpolated pixels because it's a native 4K sensor. Nino
@@CineD yeah for ProRes Raw. But Im talking about ProRes. There was no information on that, but from what I found out till now, it should actually be possible.
@@CineD All cameras lose value quickly. You know that. If you make income from the FX9, you've already paid for a lot of the camera. Besides, you still have all your E-mount lens etc. that still work on the FX6.
@@2muchmedia, I second that. It’s a fine line as if these new features on FX6 (and not on FX9) was not added out to protect FX9 owners (like what Canon does) than you have new buyers complaining about this. You can’t win them all but it’s good to see that Sony decided to not hold back (or cripple) features to protect their other lines. I can totally understand Nino and FX9 owners who paid twice for it without these new features. If Sony could give these features to the FX9 in an upgrade, then everyone would be happy. In case of Sony, I think they are doing this in response to Canon’s recent success with R5/R6 and followed on with C70. As consumers or professionals, we just need to decide what tools we need to do our jobs and/or get paid, and not jump at every release as it’s an expensive exercise that most cannot afford to do. Just try to keep up with the design roadmap and releases and see if you should wait and skip or buy now. I would think 2-3yrs is enough time where the upgrades is worth the investment, but that also depends if the tools that you purchased has paid back that investment. Good times to be in if you’re not fully invested!
czcams.com/video/ASmtndZDxrk/video.html - Yes! And also in 4K by the look of this video. To my mind, that would mean that you can use APS C lenses on this camera, as long as you're happy with the clear image zoom result. It looks slightly digitally sharpened in camera, but still looks great!
Smh 2020 and $6,000 for 4k lol. I'm spoiled by using 2X BMPCC 6K's at work. Higher resolution is crucial for many situations and is very noticeable unless you're watching on a very outdated monitor/phone/tv
the utility of the fx6 crushes the bmpcc6k though. The BM has resolution, a great codec, and filmic image quality, but rigging is annoying af after awhile, battery solutions, ergonomics of the awkward football shape, no internal ND/AF, no full size XLR option, s-cinetone etc. The FX6 is worth 6k IMO because of the quality of life improvements it offers if you run and gun a lot or have a high volume of work you want to turn out quickly. I wish it did have 6k and the BM image quality though
Wow,...I'm so glad that Sony dropped all the 4k 10bit Long GOP recording options. Finally! If they would have left it there, I would have been tempted to use it and that would be bad. With them forcing me to use All-I 10bit 4k instead, Sony is essentially saving me.....from myself. Thank you Sony!
Veeeery different cameras. Both have their place. Built-in RAW with the RED, which is amazing, but a S35 sensor and no amazing AF. So you win some, you lose some. It really depends on what you are mainly shooting. For glossy stuff (commercials, narrative) I'd go with the RED (potentially, haven't tested it yet), for the rest with the Sony. And the stuff I shoot personally is mostly in need of a weaker codec - documentaries, TV ... - because of the amount of footage I have to produce which the post production has to process in a short amount of time. Nino
@@CineD For really cinematic travel filmmaking with breathtaking landscapes which would you recommend? The sony? I know the komodo advertises 16 stops of dynamic range but I think that's baloney honestly. Thanks for the reply
A camera is a tool to do a job. Use that tool proficiently and you'll never regret what you paid for it. You should be cheering the opportunity to add a B cam with the FX6 at such a great price !
It looks like a camcorder from the 90'. Especially that handle is really ugly. That's a huge turn off for me. Not buying untill and unless they do something about the handle design.
Everywhere indoors and in public transport of course ... outdoors not so much, unfortunately. But now it's lockdown again, nobody is on the streets for 3 weeks ... Nino
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The features and specs are great, of course, but to me the biggest thing is that Sony has really changed their colors to something that I now find very appealing. I have disliked Sony's color for a long time, and thus not paid any attention to their cameras, but what is coming out of the A7S III and the FX6 is very much getting my attention!
I agree it’s gotten so much better in the last few years. Nino
Just ... WOW. This is the camera I have been waiting for. Thanks for the review.
Our pleasure!
The low light feature looks fantastic.👍🌃🎥📹
It really does!
Wow. Sony really hit the nail with this one.
I think so too. Nino
@@CineD Especially the free RAW-Output, never thought they would do this, but I highly appreciate it. Can't wait to get my hands on this awesome little device! Thanks for the great review.
For Resolve users.... the Blackmagic Video Assist to roecord BRAW or ProRes would be a great add on.
The Sony FX6 looks incredible! How good was the autofocus with the adapter? I see you used a sigma 24-70 2.8 and the sigma MC-11 adapter. What was the tele lens? Great first look video, Nino!
I'd like to know this too. Also, how well does autofocus perform when using Canon glass?
The autofocus with the Sigma adapter and the Sigma lenses is great! That's why I bought the adapter. Unfortunately doesn't work so well with a Metabones and the Canon lenses. Nino
@@CineD thanks for the info, Nino! Last question: how is the IS in the sigma 24-70 lens? I heard it's not that effective?
@@CineD How about Sigma adapter and Canon glass?
Try viltrox ef-nex iv with the latest firmware. Autofocus works 80% with canon lenses (but not sigma lens) using cdaf. Works great with my a73 and a6500
@8:30 As you are saying it, i was thinking to sell my FS7 for the FX6 ... Small enough for gimbalwork, and the possibility to easily make a shoulder rig with the FX9 loupe and a zacuto baseplate ..
I think what you are saying makes a lot of sense - unless you have a lot of APS-C or S35 glass you need to use with it. Nino
@@CineD I haven't , canon + metabone..;)
Another great review. Thank you so much. So do you think that Canon C 70 cannot compete with this? I have so many Canon lenses and I’m just sad to switch
I think it can ... both seem to be great cameras with great codecs and decent slow-motion. Both tick most of my boxes. Have to take a closer look at the C70 again. Both of them suffer from the lack of an EVF.
I can't wait to give this thing a try!
A one to one comparative review with the direct competitor (Canon C70) would be appreciated.
Good point, we will look into that. For that we'd need production samples of both cameras. Nino
Having said that, the C70 is an S35 sensor camera so it would be an odd comparison.
@@CineD But it has the unique feature like arri Alexa too boost the dynamic range
@@CineD They compete at the same price point which is the ultimate point of comparison.
@@bab8terExactly. Sensor size really isnt a big deal with these modern sensors. They are all so good!
You didn't talk much about the "crispness" of the downsampled from 6K resolution of the FX9.....compared to the 4k sensor of the FX6. That's an important difference.
Only for Pixel Peepers, clients can't tell the difference. And most ppl can't, unless they are compared side by side.
I didn't do a side-by-side yet but I am sure there is a bit more "crispiness". But to be honest the difference will be not be a huge deal, I'm with ToksVision here.
Excellent review, thanks. Now all I've got to do is find the $6K to buy it!
Does this camera have the "end-trigger" record mode for slow motion bursts? That is primarily what I'm using for wildlife so I don't miss the moment an eagle takes off for instance. I don't like to record continuously.
I doubt it but I will find out. Nino
Do you guys think that HDMI raw output is limited by hardware? It doesn't make sense that you can't use the Ninja V to record ProRes Raw in this small body.
Very good and informative video Nino 👏 Thank you 🙏 What a beast the FX6 💪🏼😉 🎥 really cool review and awesome footage 😀 i think this could be my new cam 👍🏻 best cinematic greetings from a small german filmmaker
Great review, thank you. Which adapter were you using with the Canon 70-200? How did the autofocus perform in daylight and night light?
I used the Sigma EF-E Adapter, but a Metabones would work as well. However don't forget that the AF on that lens won't work with either adapter properly. The only EF lenses I got to work with AF were the Sigmas using their own adapter.
Doesn't the Clear Image Zoom feature, effectively act as a Super 35 crop mode, so you can use APS C glass on the camera?
Thank you Nino. I have the FS5 and I've spent 4 years editing out the horrible yellow green tinge out of everything.
It is just awful in mixed lighting situations. It is actually so bad I'm considering selling all of my kit including lenses and buying the Komodo. How does the FX6 compare?
I feel you, I also found the FS5 to be a very noisy camera (compared to the FS7) which always surprised me. I think it all comes down to the weak XAVC-L codec ... without having done a deep dive on the FX6 colors yet, my feeling is that it's dealing with it much better. The a7S III is, and so should the FX6. Nino
Would you get the FX6 or c70?
we would wait till next technologies improvements :D
FX6 has FF, c70 has the fantastic RF lenses. Both will let you get the job done 😁
What is the model name that used a sony-canon adapter?
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There is a 10% on the fx6 for 120fps just like the a7siii
For the love of god, please, please, stop complaining that cinema cams don’t have DSLR features. They are not the same and they never will be.
So Cinema Line is the new Cinealta?
Good observation, I wondered where CineAlta went ... It's strange that an F3 was called CineAlta and the FX9 wasn't .... Nino
This in comparison to the Panasonic S1H what you guys think?
Outstanding job from Sony, all the amazing specs of the a7S III combined with a compact cinema camera body, it doesn’t get much better than this.
Will definitely get one or two.
Resize Films it has many faults? See Philip Blooms review.
@@proteus1 Mr. Bloom himself admitted he was being largely nit picky and that it’s a phenomenal camera - his frustration stems from getting used to the a7S iii’s more intuitive user interface, although I agree not including object tracking AF is absurd and probably my biggest gripe with this camera, but overall I think you’ll eventually get used to interfacing with the FX6 and it will be a great camera
Great review!!!
Thanks!
great insight! what propet lenses do you suggest?
5:25 What camera did you shoot ??????(This is Seoul Korea)
iPhone XR handheld 4k24fps
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Is there end trigger for slow motion? I used this feature a lot on the Fs5? If not is there any Cache recording capabilities?
Thanks for the review! Does it have preview LUT for the monitor while shooting s-log or the new cine profile? I remember the FS7 had it but the FS5 didn't.
Yes that is possible I think.
I put money on the Sony z90
Should I take the money off and put it on this model
good review, helpful!
Does the FX6 have any kind of pre-record or end trigger functionality?
Great job!
Do you need Sony e mount lenses to stablise in catalyst browse? Note - I plan on using Sigma 18-35 EF's through a Sigma MC-11 adaptor. Thanks :)
With the FX9 and the 2019 version of Catalyst, E-mount lenses were mandatory.
Sony doen't say anything about the new 2020 version of Catalyst... I assume it means nothing changed on this point.
Sir, what is your proposed price for the FX9?.Thank you.
output raw from fx6 to an atomos recorder but only 4k60 ... what about 4k120?
No possible, unfortunately. But we have seen this with other cameras before when outputting RAW to an Atomos recorder. Nino
Put 4k 120 in fx9 and allow external raw via sdi without the addon back. That 6k sensor will still outperform the fx6 but thats for pixel peeping. Save the fx9 buyers sony!
It would be nice if they could do that indeed! Nino
Sony a7siii or sony fx6?
Can you record other than ProRes RAW from the FX6, for instance just ProRes 422? and do I need this Atomos recordes with a monitor I dont want a monitor, just a recorder ! And, where do I buy an eye vierwwfinder like on the FX9`?, I can find any store selling parts .
by the way, thanks fora ll the great reviews and Lab Test on Cined, serious guys, I trust !
Couldn't you use Clear Image Zoom on the FX6 to negate the vignette on S35 lenses?
Just checked with Sony, Clear Image zoom is indeed there (also updated the post), it's 1.5x in 4K. Yes you are right, that might work on some lenses. But I think this is not a full quality mode, otherwise Sony would have called it a crop mode. This has to be interpolated pixels because it's a native 4K sensor. Nino
@@CineD Saw Philip Bloom talk about this today and I think he said he couldn’t see a difference.
does AF works fine with sigma mc-11?
So, for instance, can you use the Sony FE 85mm F1.8 E-Mount Lens with the FX6?
Sure u can. It has the same E-mount and accepts the FF and APS-C e-mount lenses.
Yes of course you can.
NO IBIS... dealbreaker
Best I can do for that FX9 is $24.50...*pawn stars music* and I'd be taking a loss here...
LOL Sony does it again on older models. Great review... 👍😎
Do you know if I can use my Atomos Ninja V with the FX6 to record ProRes 4k60p?
Unfortunately only the Shogun 7 seems to work (via SDI)
@@CineD yeah for ProRes Raw. But Im talking about ProRes. There was no information on that, but from what I found out till now, it should actually be possible.
Can it focus with EF lenses?
It works with the Sigma EF-E Adapter and Sigma lenses. For example I used the Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 EF with that adapter.
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WHY are people complaining about a7SIII
when SONY has the camera for their video needs....
next thing we know, some joker will complain FX6 can't shoot still photos....
I have to agree it’s probably the best video camera Sony ever made. Nino
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Which camera do you shoot that 2:41 video?
The b-roll of me using the FX6? That was a spontaneous idea by a collague and he simply used his iPhone 11 Pro :)
Perfect nino. My fx9 buddies are dying😭 I'm getting so many texts. RIP sony Professionals..
I wouldn't say it like that but yes, it's a lot to digest for me as an FX9 buyer as well .... Nino
@@CineD All cameras lose value quickly. You know that. If you make income from the FX9, you've already paid for a lot of the camera. Besides, you still have all your E-mount lens etc. that still work on the FX6.
@@2muchmedia, I second that.
It’s a fine line as if these new features on FX6 (and not on FX9) was not added out to protect FX9 owners (like what Canon does) than you have new buyers complaining about this.
You can’t win them all but it’s good to see that Sony decided to not hold back (or cripple) features to protect their other lines.
I can totally understand Nino and FX9 owners who paid twice for it without these new features.
If Sony could give these features to the FX9 in an upgrade, then everyone would be happy.
In case of Sony, I think they are doing this in response to Canon’s recent success with R5/R6 and followed on with C70.
As consumers or professionals, we just need to decide what tools we need to do our jobs and/or get paid, and not jump at every release as it’s an expensive exercise that most cannot afford to do. Just try to keep up with the design roadmap and releases and see if you should wait and skip or buy now. I would think 2-3yrs is enough time where the upgrades is worth the investment, but that also depends if the tools that you purchased has paid back that investment.
Good times to be in if you’re not fully invested!
Does it have clear image zoom?
No I don't think so. If so, only in HD but I will check with Sony. Nino
czcams.com/video/ASmtndZDxrk/video.html - Yes! And also in 4K by the look of this video. To my mind, that would mean that you can use APS C lenses on this camera, as long as you're happy with the clear image zoom result. It looks slightly digitally sharpened in camera, but still looks great!
Smh 2020 and $6,000 for 4k lol. I'm spoiled by using 2X BMPCC 6K's at work. Higher resolution is crucial for many situations and is very noticeable unless you're watching on a very outdated monitor/phone/tv
the utility of the fx6 crushes the bmpcc6k though. The BM has resolution, a great codec, and filmic image quality, but rigging is annoying af after awhile, battery solutions, ergonomics of the awkward football shape, no internal ND/AF, no full size XLR option, s-cinetone etc. The FX6 is worth 6k IMO because of the quality of life improvements it offers if you run and gun a lot or have a high volume of work you want to turn out quickly. I wish it did have 6k and the BM image quality though
Wow,...I'm so glad that Sony dropped all the 4k 10bit Long GOP recording options. Finally! If they would have left it there, I would have been tempted to use it and that would be bad. With them forcing me to use All-I 10bit 4k instead, Sony is essentially saving me.....from myself. Thank you Sony!
Why buy this one when you can buy the komodo with global shutter and 6k for the same price? I don't get it
Veeeery different cameras. Both have their place. Built-in RAW with the RED, which is amazing, but a S35 sensor and no amazing AF. So you win some, you lose some. It really depends on what you are mainly shooting. For glossy stuff (commercials, narrative) I'd go with the RED (potentially, haven't tested it yet), for the rest with the Sony. And the stuff I shoot personally is mostly in need of a weaker codec - documentaries, TV ... - because of the amount of footage I have to produce which the post production has to process in a short amount of time. Nino
@@CineD For really cinematic travel filmmaking with breathtaking landscapes which would you recommend? The sony? I know the komodo advertises 16 stops of dynamic range but I think that's baloney honestly. Thanks for the reply
A "cheap" Komodo setup cost me $8500, lol. Not the same price at all. And very different pros and cons between the two
@@dna8269 what did you buy to go with your komodo? what does one actually need for a setup?
@@wcsdiaries Sigma 18-35, 8sinn cage, 2 512gb cfast cards, CoreSWX v mount, and then 2 budget 955 batteries by Wasabi
So many adverts!!!
Djeeeezez....the ads in this video. 6 in 5 minutes. I gave up.
A camera is a tool to do a job. Use that tool proficiently and you'll never regret what you paid for it. You should be cheering the opportunity to add a B cam with the FX6 at such a great price !
No EVF? Forget it.
is there a camera that takes M.2 NVME card natively ??
and
why not...its a format that is just begging for a video camera.
I'm not aware of any! Just the BMD Pocket with the modification kit ... Nino
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Is it perfect? or did Sony tell you to say it is?
hahaa how much for your fx9
It looks like a camcorder from the 90'. Especially that handle is really ugly. That's a huge turn off for me. Not buying untill and unless they do something about the handle design.
"perfect camera" .....that's not the message I got from Philip Bloom
Phil also said it's pretty close! Yet a bit frustrating.
Phillip who?
@@barandcross just some totally unknown film-maker.....
@@JohnnyMotel99 contrary to popular belief he is not a god
@@dna8269 hehehe agree!
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Hi Nino...
Woow No masks in Vienna either.....hmmmmmm
Everywhere indoors and in public transport of course ... outdoors not so much, unfortunately. But now it's lockdown again, nobody is on the streets for 3 weeks ... Nino
Just think it's a shame that a 9 minute review only has about 20 seconds worth of actual camera footage to spare.
That's why I called it a first hands-on review. A full review with the production version will come, we didn't have much time with the camera. Nino