@@theshield1613 that would be on the lower trims. The srt style 2015+ front fascia is still attractive but not as nice/aggresive as the 11-14 in my opinion
11-14 headlights were the last great “headlight” before everything went to squinty headlights. And the hoods were way better. Don’t know why dodge went away with them. I bought a 12 rt awd last year because they are going to get harder and harder to find. With 6 inches of snow today, it didn’t give me any issues driving 50 miles. But when it’s time to get another, I’ll for sure get a newer charger. They don’t look bad by any means!
@@yodaevil aesthetically, yes. I had a 2012 SXT I loved to bits. The headlights had a refelctor style though...wish it was projector. careful, v8s are on the chopping block. Hellcats ending in 2024, and I'm sure the r/t and 392s will come after.
@@OfficialJDCoy we all have our opinions bro. Me personally, i have a ‘12 pursuit v8. It’s one 1 of 3 dream cars of mine. The older chargers look better imo. There’s a dude on here with a 2013 (i think) purple charger, who just did a wideboy kit. That bitch nasty
It’s crazy how much of a difference a transmission can make the cammed and tuned 2013 is probably making 70-100 more HP then the scat pack but the scat pack was still pretty much right next to him
I used to hate the looks of the 2011 to 2014 Dodge Charger. Maybe still do. They were ahead of their time and with a few mods have some decent capabilities. I just hate the front end. And the aftermarket front ends were not so good either. I have a 2008 and I love everything about it. The 2015 had potential, but the Hellcat front end was awesome. Flash forward to today and they all come with that front end except for the entry level model. They look great, but there is nothing to make it stand out. Maybe that is what is great about it. But not for everyone.
The 2012-14 Superbee looks more of muscle car than the new 392, which is what I have. The 8speed trans over the 5speed is the only reason I chose the newer one as it shows In the video.
@@pnw_hc i havent tested it im going by word but shit man if you say so. I just live chargers all together. I got the 5 speed in mine and i love it. It could genuinely go both ways
@@FatboySips I raced a 8 speed SRT 392 in my 2014 392 5 speed, but it was so intense I couldn't record. We was neck and neck, through traffic and everything. One thing I have realized is the 8 speed is faster but not aggressive, it will take off but the longer gear of 5 speed doesn't let it pull more than a half car from u, that being said there's nothing to miss except gas mileage and maybe a better get up and go compared to 5 speed 392 but make no mistake, the distance is never long enough to fit another car btw them. I would go for hellcat after this not scatpack
@@hermessrt2414 truly bro we think the same lol. Ive seen the output from those 8 speeds and theyre good trannys but like you said its just mpg that youre gaining and the whole takeoff shit. I raced a 18 ram 1500 r/t and like you said couldnt record but in the three times we raced it was all 30 rolls he got me once by like a fender and the second and third i beat him by like half my charger. Very neck and neck it could go both ways🤷🏾♂️
@@FatboySips right that's why they always say the 8speed is at its peak power but then again 15 HP and 3 extra speed is not enough. The 8 speed 392 needs to be 500hp to make a significance then yea I'll consider it. Otherwise I'll just say nice car, not omg that's a fast car except you bring a hellcat
I used to own 2013 RT and now I own 2019 RT… initially the when facelift came in 2015 I didn’t like it at that because I loved the aggressive facie of 2013…. But now the 2019 RT is my baby and I love it more then 2013 💕
Damn, i did a few of these with my 2020 scat, stock2stock never loss yet but their was no more then half car length between us, not enough to brag but enough to win, nice run.
that scat pack needs some tires. What are those the 245s or the 275? You can see how much spinning he was doin at the start haha. Either tires or ease into the launch. Even in my R/T they were spinning with the stock setup.
@@d.8580 I'm confused are you saying your widebody scat will walk an SRT8 from a roll and a dig? Or are you saying that even though your widebody scat pack is wild it still couldn't beat the SRT in a dig?
@@micahmatthew4645 The 2013 has a 3.09 vs the 2019 2.62. And the first gear on the 2013 is far more aggressive. Soo....yeah, probably don't argue with the person that lives and breathe these cars.
Here's the real answer, we both actually stuck together and at the end he beat me and I knew he was going to beat me because he had drag radials and mine were 245s all the way around, I'm the owner of that 19 scatpack, I told him before we raced that he was going to beat me anyways, mines all bone stock to the core
Hear me out..2013 Rear w/ the new model front. (W/Hood Scoops) P.S. This is a perfect example of the driver making a huge difference. He almost lost it😭😵💫
2013 was such a clean year! Love that gen SRT8!
On god still my favorite body
Its the best looking newage charger
Yea but the interior is garbage compared to current gent chargers. They really did a decent job on the new ones when it comes to interior
@@Tydoeverything ong
@@hairychesticles1 They certainly did a good Job on the Interior refresh!
Man, love the 11-14 style - and this coming from a guy who owns a 2019 392
Yeah the charger 2015-present has the dodge dart grill .
@@theshield1613 that would be on the lower trims. The srt style 2015+ front fascia is still attractive but not as nice/aggresive as the 11-14 in my opinion
@@MrM4rvelous 11-14 looks good but 2006-2010 looks bad ass police equipment
11-14 headlights were the last great “headlight” before everything went to squinty headlights. And the hoods were way better. Don’t know why dodge went away with them. I bought a 12 rt awd last year because they are going to get harder and harder to find. With 6 inches of snow today, it didn’t give me any issues driving 50 miles. But when it’s time to get another, I’ll for sure get a newer charger. They don’t look bad by any means!
@@yodaevil aesthetically, yes. I had a 2012 SXT I loved to bits. The headlights had a refelctor style though...wish it was projector.
careful, v8s are on the chopping block. Hellcats ending in 2024, and I'm sure the r/t and 392s will come after.
Both are nice but the 2013 has more of a muscular look , my favorite srt Gen tbh
I agree and its also my fav srt gen
Exactly
Same here , I love the 2012-14 looking rt’s and srt8 it’s so much you can do with them
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As a 2013 srt owner of course I think they look the best. Just look at the back shot comparison of both! 2013 for the win.
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I love the 8-14 challenger and charger more than the new
as a 19 HC owner I'd agree with you tbh. I miss my 2012 R/T Max!
old ones are ugly i never buy one new one so much better
@@OfficialJDCoy we all have our opinions bro. Me personally, i have a ‘12 pursuit v8. It’s one 1 of 3 dream cars of mine. The older chargers look better imo. There’s a dude on here with a 2013 (i think) purple charger, who just did a wideboy kit. That bitch nasty
2013 looks good now I used to think it was ugly
Same. I owned one and loved it!! Gorgeous car. Mine was all black with a nice dark tint and black rims. Gen 2 chargers are great. I'd buy another
It is lol
The front is ugly but the back is 😍
@@8DawwgRoJ4nkky with the right taste and modifications you can make that front end look way aggressive
@@AustinRides7264that's what I have
2013 look the best outta all years s
I swear 😭😭😭
Righttt the whole car looks angry
Probably cause you cant afford the 2015+
@@erickaguirre8624 and you probably can’t either. 😂
I wouldn’t say “all” years because in my opinion the 66-70 looks the best BY FAR.
Again that’s just my opinion, some people hate old cars.
@Amye facts
That Super 🐝 bee said " And we gon see ya later"
Great race, and what a perfect spot to do some racing!👍
Miss my 2012 charger & 2015 good memories ill never forget them cars they were my pride & joy 🥲
2013 was a very nice year for the charger indeed. Family also has two 2012 charger rats heavily modified.
Im always gonna keep my 2013 because old is gold
2011-2014 Chargers may become desirable classics in the future. Great body style during those four short years
Same❤
I love the 13-14 body style and I think grand theft auto really made the car even more wantable
Yeah no lift gang on gtao with the bravado buffalos made me love the look and sound of them
The right side model is always gonna be my favorite one
Clean start and that scrrr at the end 👌🏻😗👩🍳 chefs kiss
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I like the look of the 2012 - 2014 over the new ones. Still has that old school charger look 😎
It’s crazy how much of a difference a transmission can make the cammed and tuned 2013 is probably making 70-100 more HP then the scat pack but the scat pack was still pretty much right next to him
Thats just the camara view bro that super bee was probably a car and a half ahead
@@trav4586 the scat pack had a cars length on him
I was wondering why the super bee was pulling I came in here thinking of course the 8 speed should win didn’t check the mod list first
What cam is this that produces this magical 100hp? Asking for a friend so he can get one and "keep up" with these bone-stock 2015+ Scat Packs.
@@pdiz
Comp Cams
Since I don't know who won it's fair to say that you can't go wrong with either one?!.."Dodge, the brotherhood of muscle"
Mopar or no car
Definitely about that time of year too
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2013 still the best looking year for the new gen chargers
R.I.P Street Racing Technology Team. 😢
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I used to hate the looks of the 2011 to 2014 Dodge Charger. Maybe still do. They were ahead of their time and with a few mods have some decent capabilities. I just hate the front end. And the aftermarket front ends were not so good either. I have a 2008 and I love everything about it. The 2015 had potential, but the Hellcat front end was awesome. Flash forward to today and they all come with that front end except for the entry level model. They look great, but there is nothing to make it stand out. Maybe that is what is great about it. But not for everyone.
Both are sick idk which I like better
Man I’m going with the 13’ I like how It looks better than the new gens
The 2012-14 Superbee looks more of muscle car than the new 392, which is what I have. The 8speed trans over the 5speed is the only reason I chose the newer one as it shows In the video.
The 13 won tho
@@gonzalezgrant I think the scat was spinning but the 13 can’t beat a modern 392 We kno that Bc it’s a 5speed and it tops of quicker
@@mopareliteofms check description , it’s cammed . Stock for stock yea the new one would win
It's nothing to make that gen charger faster
That superbee still hard af 🔥🔥
I just like how those cars smile at me🥹
Gotta love the 5 speed. People say the 8 speed is better but literally youre sacrificing longer power gears for more eco friendly gears. 5 speed FTW
Racing wise, 8 speed is better because it keeps you in your peak power band longer. The 2013 won because it is Cammed and on drag radials.
@@pnw_hc i havent tested it im going by word but shit man if you say so. I just live chargers all together. I got the 5 speed in mine and i love it. It could genuinely go both ways
@@FatboySips I raced a 8 speed SRT 392 in my 2014 392 5 speed, but it was so intense I couldn't record. We was neck and neck, through traffic and everything. One thing I have realized is the 8 speed is faster but not aggressive, it will take off but the longer gear of 5 speed doesn't let it pull more than a half car from u, that being said there's nothing to miss except gas mileage and maybe a better get up and go compared to 5 speed 392 but make no mistake, the distance is never long enough to fit another car btw them. I would go for hellcat after this not scatpack
@@hermessrt2414 truly bro we think the same lol. Ive seen the output from those 8 speeds and theyre good trannys but like you said its just mpg that youre gaining and the whole takeoff shit. I raced a 18 ram 1500 r/t and like you said couldnt record but in the three times we raced it was all 30 rolls he got me once by like a fender and the second and third i beat him by like half my charger. Very neck and neck it could go both ways🤷🏾♂️
@@FatboySips right that's why they always say the 8speed is at its peak power but then again 15 HP and 3 extra speed is not enough. The 8 speed 392 needs to be 500hp to make a significance then yea I'll consider it. Otherwise I'll just say nice car, not omg that's a fast car except you bring a hellcat
The scat was spinning so much 🤣🤣
I used to own 2013 RT and now I own 2019 RT… initially the when facelift came in 2015 I didn’t like it at that because I loved the aggressive facie of 2013…. But now the 2019 RT is my baby and I love it more then 2013 💕
From the back the new chargers look too similar to a dodge dart 🤣
Good race!!💯🔥
Awesome cars 👍👍
Damn, i did a few of these with my 2020 scat, stock2stock never loss yet but their was no more then half car length between us, not enough to brag but enough to win, nice run.
Drag radials and a cam for the 2013 make a difference
@@pnw_hc yeah i missed that part lol.
I knew that bee couldn’t be stock lol, a scat would dog that thang. Good race tho
@@bullucygang600 me2, lol i was daaaamn no way inless the scat driver was sleep at the wheel.
@@Bigshak80 ”unless the scat driver was asleep at the wheel”
Scat literally took off first 🤣🥱🤣
Wish I could find a road like this.
Reminds me of franklins car in GTA V. Came out in 2013 so makes sense that it looks similar
2013 Charger SRT with the ZF 9 speed would be PERFECT
a match ive been waiting for let me get my candy
Awesome. 🤙🏽
Left kinda had a lot of spinning while takin off.. they’ll be bumper to bumper on a roll💯🔥
Yeah, he want on radials still would've lost tho.
iFw the current gens of scatpacks and hellcats and remake trims but im aiming for a 2014 or older srt8 💪🏽
2019 should of used launch control might of got better start I would like to see rerun. But super bee out there looking clean and putting in work
Y’all crazy for thinking the super bee looks better than the scat pack in no way shape or form
It’s called a opinion for a reason
@@humblekino1482 well keep your opinion
Just like you saying the scatpack looks better. 🤣 only an opinion
It’s not an opinion it’s a fact! What are you blind?
Way closer race then I expected
Old boy still got it
I love my 12 challenger rt manual and my 13 dodge charger rt both black DODGE RIDER FOR LIFE 🖤 ❤️
Both of those cars are so beautiful. I’m looking for a 2013 or 2014 SRT8. And body know where to find one?
He said he won on the right, super bee 2013 🔥
Superbee taillights on the Scat would be looking clean af
2nd Gen baby 🔥
that scat pack needs some tires. What are those the 245s or the 275? You can see how much spinning he was doin at the start haha. Either tires or ease into the launch. Even in my R/T they were spinning with the stock setup.
Lets be honest here, the 60's and 2000's models look great
Everybody gunnin for the scat pack
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yep , got one stinger yellow/black just put ferrada cm2 wheels 22/9 22/11 ❤
i would still get a 2013 if i found one for a good price but if ima pay that much might as well go new
Get both, you got to start somewhere.
The older SRT8 has a killer 6 speed with a beast 3rd gear, from a dig any SRT8 will wipe but from a roll a scatpack will walk
I daily a 22 widebody scat with every option on the planet, and it's definitely a beast. I would kill for that 6 speed xmission. Those SRT8s can DIG.
@@d.8580 I'm confused are you saying your widebody scat will walk an SRT8 from a roll and a dig? Or are you saying that even though your widebody scat pack is wild it still couldn't beat the SRT in a dig?
@@AV-nl9gc you're definitely confused, I didn't say either of those things.
Dam I really miss my 2013 SRT
I got a 2012 charger rt I love it but I do wish I had that 8 speed in the 15+ chargers
Nice !
This is just my guess but the reason why I think the newer one lost was because it has all newer tech which weighs the car down a lot
the race of the muffler deletes
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That Super Bee is still a looker! The 12-14 392s have different/more aggressive gearing than the 15-current.
They literally don’t lmao
@@micahmatthew4645 The 2013 has a 3.09 vs the 2019 2.62. And the first gear on the 2013 is far more aggressive. Soo....yeah, probably don't argue with the person that lives and breathe these cars.
@@micahmatthew4645 😂😂
Super bee 😍
man these mustangs are fast especially 2018+ with the 10 speed auto
Wait, i’m just now see’n the older model has drag radial, acourse he should win lol.
2013 on top baby
We need a finish line video
You can tell which one is the oldest because of the taillights lol
2013 versions was the best charger versions 2008 too. these new ones look like a nascar charger
From the 69 to the 2013-14 Chargers are the best to me.
Charger puttin in work 💪🏿💪🏿
I didn't know military tanks were that fast.
Why does it sound like the start of the race plays again at the end of the video? LOL
So the bubble bee and the scat pack different cars?
So the nag vs the 8 speed. Both good cars.
And the super bee slept 🛌 at the line 👀
Superman.
Was superbee in that year 6.4 w nag1?
2013 super bee love that charger more
So the super bee is faster than the scar pack
It’s good it hear a internal combustion engine run. How boring is it with out the sound.
Lmao I was looking at the surrounding thinking it looks like home then i saw the plates then the CZcams name
I love how the srt was the only car with that body style not the rt max or the special editions where the 2015+ they got v6 that look like hellcats 👎🏾
Sold my 2011 r/t challenger for a 17 392 scat shaker. I miss the body of the 11. Older gen looked way better
Both are automatic too for anyone claiming one is a manual
That scat looks so good compared to the super bee
Like father like son
Tires for the win!!!!
That ScatPack was holding no traction lol
Look at the scat pack owners flabbergasted😂
Great race, but how in the hell we know who won?
Which one goes over the hill first? There’s your winner
Here's the real answer, we both actually stuck together and at the end he beat me and I knew he was going to beat me because he had drag radials and mine were 245s all the way around, I'm the owner of that 19 scatpack, I told him before we raced that he was going to beat me anyways, mines all bone stock to the core
Where’s this spot at
Who won
The Keepers.
The new body should upgrade rear wheel & tire setup & run it again
Yeah the 2013 is on radials and is cammed
Super bee 440 pounds less vs Scat 15+ trans final drive ration and tune. Super Bee did that
They still going
Hear me out..2013 Rear w/ the new model front. (W/Hood Scoops)
P.S. This is a perfect example of the driver making a huge difference. He almost lost it😭😵💫