Why the Haikyuu!! Movies will Fail
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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2023
- In this video, I break down the reasons why the final two Haikyuu!! movies will have a difficult time finishing the series.
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The fact that the creator of the OST, Yuki Hayashi, retweeted a Japanese fan's post saying that if they pay enough to watch the movies then they might make a season is like so telling. The people who work on Haikyuu know that the manga is fantastic and know that these movies are gonna be a nightmare of a finale.
Bro just can't wait💫💫💫😎😎😎
I swear the most important arc aka the last part should be a season rather than a movie.
The movie blew up in box office overwhelmingly. This clip certainly did not age well
I really hope they do 1 movie for Nekoma, 1 move for Kamomedai, and then 1 final movie for time skip + jackals vs adlers. Love your video breaking down all the options!!
I hope for the same! Glad you enjoyed the vid!
it’s 2 movies so unfortunately no.
Komomedai wasn't really a full match though. It just ends with Hinata getting off the court so squeezing timeskip is prolly doable.
and those who don't know there is going to be one more match between nekoma and komamedai which is fukorodani and top 1 ace match which roughly have 20 ch
@@josephocenadanot at all cause Timeskip has both Brazil and The final game and even some extra Olympic content at the end. That needs a movie.
The only part that should have been a film was the time skip.
It's a whole separate adventure and is perfect for a film.
For those who worry just read the manga, an emotional roller coaster that we all love and hate, pacing at your own speed to see each panel for its beauty and you’ll be surprised of how hype it gets when reading, as long as you fully embrace the masterpiece that is Haikyuu.
I’m just happy we get to see more of Haikyuu animated and i hope they prove you wrong. 🙏❤️
I hope they do as well 🙏
I hope so too x
I already saw the movie and it was amazing, hopefully they will make OVAs or mini season for Bokuto's mini arc and the post time skip, Seeing how they handled the first movie (like how they made the match like a real-time game and only cut some little parts of KaraNeko chapters) make me believe the 2nd part of the movie will only be about Karasuno vs Kamonedai match.
I thought the same though I haven't watched the movie yet. but what about the rest of the manga! what a waste that would be if they didn't animate the whole thing.
Nah the time skip will be in the second movie but theyre still Hope for bokuto tho
Good news. Battle at the Garbage Dump is performing extremely well and fans are calling a good format for the story.
When do you think it will come to streaming platforms?
@@Astro-vt3bx probably sometime in August or September considering it came out in May here in the U.S.
But that's just my guess.
@DragonStar524 Alright thanks I found on Google it says it will come on Disney plus I July hopefully that's true
Yeah but that’s also cause it only adapted less than half of the remaining chapters we have left
really glad you made a video on this i had a lot of similar feelings when i heard the news as well
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I really hope they dont choose to remove the timeskip its so important to Hinatas character and becoming mature as an adult it would be devastating to see them not animate it 😢
I think what would be best is that we get the first movie for the nekoma match that that starts up the fukurodani vs mujinazaka match that concludes in the second movie that focuses on the kamomedai match, and I think that movie should either end with the panel of "our spring is over" or the opening panel of hinata in Brazil, either forcing a final 3rd movie or forcing viewers to read the manga
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great vid man
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just found your page, keep making videos you are great (more Haikyu videos are appreciated)
Happy to have you here! More Haikyuu!! vids are certainly on the way, be on the lookout for a Karasuno v Nekoma analysis shortly!
So looks like it will be power point presentation movie if they want to adapt all chapters in two movies.
Guys, anyone knows if the art style/animation will be the same as season 4? Or they will return to the old art style?
I don't know for sure but would imagine it would be stylistically similar to season 4 since that move was made to better reflect the artwork from the manga
this aged like milk
Right?
I honestly don’t see the point of doing a movie when you have so much left to adapt.
Well, those 2-part movies better be 3 hours long each. This is madness, there's still more than 100 chpters in the manga left not yet adapted. *So disappointed*
was that confirmed?
Everybody saying this aged like milk, while I was so impressed by how accurate you were a year before release.
I agree with almost every point you made, after watching. Felt so rushed, and left a bad taste in my mouth, didn't feel like Haikyuu. Had some great animation but the storytelling and the nuances of the match weren't there.
I don't think people should equate making money at the boxoffice as if it was successful or not. A good showing at the box office just proves how many fans the series had going into the movie release.
I will likely wait for the second movie to come out on streaming services instead of seeing it in theaters, and that to me, is an unsuccessful movie.
Would not mind the 3 hr 12 minutes movie
I don't care how many parts the Final Season has. It will be a full adaptation at the end of the day. And still be cataloged as one season regardless. Its final 9 chapters are getting movie level production in two Specials.
Huh
he's talking about AoT@@asianpablo1574
I think im also sad about is that almost no matter what option for movies, wether we get a 3rd one or not, we almost will definitely not get the fukorodani match in nationals, as it is so good.
A pretty good video.
OK SO!! As someone who's only read the first two volumes of the manga and watched all anime seasons, where do i begin with the manga reading now to catch up?
Chapter 290 I think
@@brynmcclennan973 ty sm 🥺
I hope they just do 2 arc on the movie and wait for the audience. How well the movies goes. And if it’s a massive hit, they gonna make the final final movie.
I don’t understand how people are saying this video aged poorly, if anything I feel like it’s even more validated as we are now in a doomsday scenario. The first one didn’t go NEARLY as far as any of us thought and while that led to it being pretty good the second future movie is now genuinely impossible. 70 chapters in what, 90 minutes again? We’re cooked 😭
Im so worried but happy I read the Manga. Either way something I being lost and with such a great series it's sad. I'm still excited though.
There is also the Fukurodani vs Mujinozaka match. Which I feel is the most likely to be first cut as well.
Out of curiosity, where does the manga pick up after the end of season 4 anime?
Best we can hope for is some OVA episodes for the Fukurodani match
Starts around chapter 291
@ayers01 I believe Chapter 293 is where the new stuff starts.
Haikyuu kind of feels like a giant epilogue after the main tournament tbh. So i can see why they'd make it 2 movies. However, they have a lot of small but important character moments to capture on screen. So i hope they can make these movies long enough to do it all justice. If they trim the fat from the first 2 major matches, they might be able to do it. Although i can see some stuff being cut either way, but if they are careful about what they cut, they might be able to do it while keeping key parts still intact.
This sure is going to be complicated. I hope they create some OVAs or something 😭
And the movie is almost at 10 billion yen mark already lmao
At least there's an anime adaptation.
Many animes just stopped adapting mid season or change the whole storyline to get it squeezed to less episodes, like Death Note, Tokyo Ghoul, or you mentioned Promised Neverland.
Because it's hard to get a profit from anime. They only get money from dvd sells & original anime goodies and Haikyuu the last season failed to do that because of quality decreased. Basically no enough money to create next season. Anime adaptation always have a committee to have sponsors to animate it, but if the sponsors not happy, they won't join the committee anymore and it's nearly impossible to create a series without sponsors.
The exceptional was Chain Saw Man, they did it without a committee because the manga series itself was already sell well so they were confident to do it. Even though the dvd sells result was sucks, they get all the profit without taken by committee so they were okay.
I'm so sad that bokutos match won't get adapted bokutos my favourite character so not seeing his match will never not upset me
You have to follow up!! Just blew Demon Slayer out of the water!!!
im usually skeptical for any movie ever, but for this one, im also skeptical that they would fail?
of the 33 chapters of nekoma vs karasuno, most of each chapter was rallying. like kageyama's serve has 3 panels just for him, and hinata's wide run got a wide page, for instance. likewise, kinoshita's serve against inarizaki was 3 pages, but like 6 seconds in the show. then again, line delivery and flashbacks add to the length of the scenes in contrast to how fast rallies would be.
reactions are also something that the 4th season cut, i.e. the couple where the girlfriend got inspired watching the tourney. in order to streamline the movie, maybe they'll trim off bokuto and akaashi's reaction, and pretend that they're already about to play their next match or show up halfway thru the movie; and also trim or reduce the presence of other side characters like the senpais of other schools and shiratorizawa's mb (he said something about digging a block isn't the final defense, which the payoff didn't come for like 10 chapters). characters on the sidelines like hinata and yaku cheering their teammate will probably get trimmed too, because there's probably a lot of filler dialogue to fit the weekly release format and volume release, most usually having to reach a certain amount of pages (an example of an artist going back to add extra pages for volume releases is probably opm's yusuke murata). that makes the rallies very fast, action packed and exciting to watch, and also able to cram the earlier action oriented chapters into the first act of the movie. like chapters 302 and 303 was one long rally.
because of how the entire arc has back to back rally, i think that's why a movie is a rational decision? because you can have a 40 minute long action scene with rallies upon rallies without any breaks in the middle. so, if imo the ideal structure for nekoma vs karasuno is the movie starts off with the old coaches' promise, then immediately into the action of the first act, which is just rally after rally, play after play. act 2 begins when kenma's plan is revealed, and the movie's tempo slows down a bit so the audience can take a break from the action, and is clued into how the match will play out based on the planning and philosophies of both teams. act 3 starts from nekoma and karasuno visualizing their official match as if they were playing a practice match, and the movie ends with hinata skipping lunch to go watch bokuto, which is a foreshadow to the next movie.
the next movie begins with bokuto beating kiryu, and being too inspired by bokuto, hinata jumps into the next match without a thought. act 1 begins and ends as kamomedai vs karasuno, and ends as hinata falls and is escorted out of the stadium, realizing his ceiling as a player, but is determined to become a better one. this might sacrifice a lot of the action, but i always felt like the end of haikyuu is more philosophical than it is action oriented.
act 2 starts right before heitor and hinata's matches, but the story is told out of chronological order. hinata recaps his training in brazil, and we find out halfway through the movie what happened to karasuno, and i think that is just enough run time to pass on the philosophy that winning and losing isn't everything, and ends with hinata returning to japan.
act 3 is jackals vs adlers, and i feel like it might be better if it starts with kageyama's backstory first. that way, the rest of the movie is all action, showing how much hinata has improved, and reaffirming that losing is not everything, and its honestly about how a sport revolving around connecting with others connected these lives together, as it is how it ends in the manga.
that's how i think it might go, but even if they don't go the way i think, im somehow not that pissed off? tbf, ive always expected haikyuu to have movies after the 4th season, but more about itachiyama, kamomedai, or the team that beat fukurodani that nobody knows anything about. those would be very interesting movies, but im also more curious than worried or pissed off about how the animes gonna end, like i wanna see how they're gonna handle the movies, cus they're production i.g. after all
First off, I like how you're passionate enough (like me) to write a short essay on your thoughts on the movies. That said, I think even with your plan the second movie would be terrible. Act 1 should end with Hinata falling? That's barely enough time to cover the philosophies and nuances of Kamomedai - my favourite team ever lol. Even with perfect pacing, there's no way they can cover the source material in 2 movies. Ideally, movie 1 should be Karasuno vs Nekoma, movie 2 is Karasuno vs Kamomedai + Bokuto's match (maybe), movie 3 is everything afterwards.
This is the first break down I have seen that could conceivably not be awful. You are right that if something has to give, the Kanomedai match is the obvious choice. It is an awesome match but you could tell the same story without it, especially if you highlight Hinata's fatigue during the Nekoma match.
Hy does anyone know where to read the manga version? Can you please help me 🥺
I nneeeedd it!!
The Shonen jump app is the best place!
The fact that the dumpster battle was so EPIC meant that this dd not age well
Tbh if they want to make it seem less rushed then the movie must at least be 3hrs or longer but that will be too long
Japan Box Office: “Haikyu!!: The Dumpster Battle” Movie earned 890 million yen in its FIRST day!
This would be the fourth highest-grossing opening day in Japan's history!
As much as I am worried about the pacing for the movies, so happy to see it doing well at the Box Office! Maybe that will convince them to make three films instead of two
@@aniessays Pacing isn't that good, I asked my friend that went to theatre to see the movie, he said that everything was alright, just as you said the pacing wasn't that good, but it didn't ruin the experience.
@@aurisz_csI saw the movie last week, the pacing were fine actually, maybe bcs they make the match like a real-time match
As hesitant as i am for the movies with them cutting a lot of material i will say im VERY EXCITED for the battle of the garbage dump
Feel the same way! At least it seems they are going to do the Nekoma match very well, still nervous for later material!
@@aniessays But its obvious what the second movies is going to be about, they will not end the whole series with it. Who knows how they will adapt it? But its pointless to call it now as a disaster or failure
But yeah why end a over hyped series early, why not end it at its own pace, all how it’s like about the process rather than the destination…
the movie is only 90 minutes :((
Pain...although the first reactions in Japan seem to be pretty positive overall, so I am trying to stay hopeful!
@@aniessays Hands down the best movie ive ever seen
This is super upsetting
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An unlikely wish, but i really hope we get to see SOME of each character post timeskip. I wanna see the interraction between oikawa and hinata animated so we can see how far oikawa has come. The same with the ushijima and iwaizumi interractions too.
Needless to say, its going to be a miracle if they can fit everything in within 2 movies. Im riding on everytbing post timeskip here, and i would be really dissappinted if none of these interractions are included.
Not only is the timeskip an excellent arc, but its one of the best curtain calls. I love seeing what became of everyone, and to leave it out would be a crime imo. The post timeskip is a 'payoff'. A reward for reading the manga. And if that payoff isnt in the anime? Man, us manga readers are gonna be so sad 😅
Did it fail ?
Nope, it was really good actually
@@bigghumbly9210 is it in the u.s I just finished re watching the whole show
@@jmirclark3978 not yet, it's still showing in japan. But don't worry, they will definitely release the international release date soon
You have the first review in japanese forum people love the movie thats much they dont complain about the cut content
Watch everyone think there gonna fail. And then bam everyone thinks it's the best thing they've seen.
I hope that happens!!!
Those 2-part movies *better be at least 2hrs 30min long* to cover the rest of chapters from the manga.. I HIGHLY doubt they would be best things anyone has ever seen💔
@Hazmi Shaidi nah they both Finna be 3 hours long just cuz
for me, the best possible way to end the animation of the manga. it should be with 2 movies, one for each of matches and a short season of 6-12 episodes for the timeskip. otherwise it would be screwed. what a dumb way of ruining the best spokon ever
I really don’t want them to do a time skip. I want them to finish what they f’ing started!!!!! I need to see how they do in finals and see how they grow up😭😭😭
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