Why Timeless Deserved a Third Season
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2019
- In this video, I discuss Timeless' grand finale, the complexity of the time travel aspects of it, and ultimately, why the show deserved a third season.
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thinking how legendary this show couldve been if it was treated better by nbc gives me actual pain
Totally agree!! The hints we got from Lucy’s journal what was going to happen... Its soooo annoying that we will never see those episodes 😩
The show was so perfect, but it was in my opinion executed a bit wrong, a season 3 would've probably fixed everything
@@themaskedraff agreed..
loved also.. shame
Just got done watching it on Netflix and went straight to CZcams to see why there was no third season so thanks for explaining
you see i got the short stick once so now whenever I watch a series I check up on it before I watch just finshed the first episode and gonaa stop it snice there is no ending
Just finished the series! My college professor assigned season 1 to analyze for class, and I just couldn’t stop watching! Timeless will be my favorite show from NBC, and I wish it got a 3rd season! Love this show ❤️🕰
What was the class?
best professor ever!!!
@hc8719 probably a history class
There are soooo many potential history they could have visited :s ... such a pitty it got cancelled.
0YES, PERHAPS SOMETIME THEY MIGHT PICK UP WITH THIS SERIES AND MAKE MORE OF THEM. I WILL KEEP MY FINGERS CROSSED. I ENJOY TIME TRAVEL MOVIES AND TV SHOWS. I ALSO ENJOYED THE OLD TIME TUNNEL BACK FROM THE 1960S.
I wish they could have done one on Amelia Earnhardt
@@turtletouche or titanic, I think Lucy found something about that in her diary.
Just finished watching this show today. It’s one of the only shows in recent memory that made me care about the characters, their interpersonal struggles, and whether or not they died. Truly a hidden gem.
The following story is 100% True.
In 8th grade this year I got a class called timeless history. and I thought it was just an extra history elective that went into more detail about stuff. I love history so I was interested. on the first day I went to class and my teacher started talking about time travel and what we would do if we had a time machine. I thought oh maybe he just wants to do like a short paper or something to introduce arself's like an all about me. then he turns on the screen and explains for the rest of semester every day well would watch show called timeless and we would write a short essay on what the episode talked about. I was totally surprised by this and we ended up watching the whole show even when are school got shutdown because of covid he ended up showing his screen on hulu and letting us watch it. we ended up getting through both seasons besides the last episode which we had to watch by arselfs it was not required to watch the last episode but i ended up watching it on hulu. and after watching i just thought by pure coincidence I got selected for this class that I thought was an extra history elective and ended up watching one of the greatest shows of all time
thanks for sharing thats awesome! and I agree it is one of the best shows!
I'm just annoyed they didn't get Lucy's sister back
I get what you are saying but I think it makes sense.
After all what they have done, bringing Lucy's sister can create a a really bad timeline.. and for all they know she could even have become a Rittenhouse or something like that...
@@gilreshef1775 yeah, but I just thought if it was Wyatt, she would have done anything to get him back. And in general I don't like how often the media portrays platonic relationships between the female characters as less important than the romantic ones with the male characters, if that makes sense
I’m more curious about who was that girl in the finale?
@@SHAUNADAMFRANCIS I don't even remember now, it's been so long since I've seen it 😂
damn just got spoiled, but don't worry it's not your fault, it's mine lol
I am from the year 2038 and I came back in time just to watch this show and let you guys know that this series was remade and rebooted in 2025. There are many other things I want to warn you guys about but it would change too many things. I do however have to give one warning that humanity should know. When they are finally spotted and discovered, just remember that they are not friendly and have hostile intentions! Warn your leaders!
I wish they would do a new season because I still want to know what Jiya's vision of the Golden Gate Bridge meant since her flashes are about the future not the past. I also want to know if Flynn and the others ever meet up agin once he catches up to their time line. Its so sad how they had to cram the ending too. I don't think it was fair to cancel it so soon, they really should of had another season to end the series better. Of course I would of liked to see even more seasons though!
Pretty sure they wanted to show that she can see things in the future and past. The golden gate bridge was under construction and the ship matched the era in which the bridge was built. So she saw the past in this specific scene.
No but Flynn from their present died when he went back to see himself and his family for one last time. So Flynn and the team will never meet again.
In 2023 the team time travelled to see Flynn in the bar because Lucy was now 5 years older as Flynn originally met her, so she had to see him for one last time in the past to close the circle.
The final movie is so awful, disgusting and disappointing that I simply ignore and reject the existence of it!!! I'd rather call it a crazy, illogical, totally out-of-character fanfiction instead of a real and normal ending... So I don't accept is as part of the canon and the official end of _Timeless_ and pretend it didn't happen at all. 😉
(Read my - very long - comment above for more details! Who cares about that shit final movie, by the way? I wrote Lucy and Flynn's happy ending! ❤)
@@_Lane_
The last episodes were sloppy like most "cancelled too soon series". It's very disappointing but nothing can be done unfortunately.
They also canceled Travelers which wasn't bad.
At least we have Outlander which made it to the sixth season and probably will carry on to a seventh and more.
@@stargazer1295 Yeah, you're right, you're absolutely right, the final movie is (unfortunately) very sloppy... 😢 That's why I pretend it never happened and the series ends with the last episode of the 2nd season (Chinatown) - and my fanfiction (the epilogue). 😉
In my story when in 2023 Lucy, Wyatt and Rufus travel back to São Paulo (2014), Lucy and Flynn are happily married and have a three-and-a-half-year-old daughter (Amy). Lucy gives Flynn the journal, introduces herself, then tells him that he's a true hero and do not forget that she _loves_ him. When the Lifeboat comes back to California, 2023 Lucy suffers from a terrible headache and throws up (😀), then admits Flynn that she feels very sick because of the stress, the worrying, the time travelling back to a timeline where she already existed - and pregnancy. Flynn is shocked and surprised and touched. 😊 He tells that his wife is the strongest and the bravest in the world because she travelled 9 years back and there in time in the very uncomfortable Lifeboat while expecting their child. Lucy laughs and tells she had no choice. They kiss and hug - and Lucy cries because of the hormones and the happiness and relief that Flynn 2023 is there for her (for better, for worse, in sickness and in health, till death do us part 😉) and is way more balanced and joyful than Flynn 2014. By seven and a half months later their twin daughters (Lily and Rose) will have been born. They'll live happily ever after. ❤ I know, I know, it's too cheesy and sugary sweet - yet so touching and romantic. 💕
Oh, and I nearly forgot that Wyatt was asked by Flynn (forced by Flynn 😆) to go with Lucy and Rufus to São Paulo 'cause he thought the whole travelling would be safer with a soldier. Especially with Wyatt himself. (And the Lucy-Wyatt-Rufus trio have already proved many times their suitability. 😉)
I've never watched the _Travellers_ and _Outlander_ , by the way. 😇
I thought that Lucy and Flynn had way more chemistry than Lucy / Wyatt ... I wish they were endgame
As I wrote above, Lucy and Wyatt:
• are forced
• are boring
• are annoying _together_
• are better as friends than as a couple
• do not match at all (neither the characters, nor the actors)
• there is no spark, no chemistry and no (sexual) tension between them
If Lucy and Wyatt were a real-life couple they would be divorced within a few years 'cause they have absolutely nothing in common! Lucy is very smart, well-read, intelligent but Wyatt... Well, Wyatt is not! What the hell would they talk about???
By the way, you are not forced to accept that awful, horrible, disgusting and so very disappointing final movie as part of the canon and the official end of _Timeless_ ! I'd rather call it a crazy, illogical, totally out-of-character fanfiction instead of a real and normal ending... So pretend it didn't happen at all and write (or at least imagine) your own version! 😉 'Cause no matter what anybody (including the crazy, stupid scriptwriters) says, Lucy & Flynn belong together. ❤
@@_Lane_ Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It objectively doesn’t give you the right to call the writers stupid and crazy just because you're not happy with their decision. Forsure the ending was a little bit Stereotypical, but the whole scenario was setup throughout the whole series. I myself was happy with the writers decision, but i respect your opinion for a more complex ending aswell. The only thing what thrown me off a little bit from Lucy & Flynn was that i felt like he was a lot older than her.
Agree
Flynn the real mvp! He give me itachi vibes 😭
Randomly found this after Chibs. I LOVED Timeless, so sad to see it go. Must rewatch it now.
NBC spent all that time saving history and they couldn't even save this show, ffs
What nooooo they have to continue!! It's the best show I've seen
The way it ended their is no way it's gone for good!
Just finished the show, really wish they had included more about the drawings of the new time machine!!! Otherwise fantastic, one of the best time travel sci-fi shows I have ever watched. 10/10
I am in love with Timeless
Watched this video then rewatched timeless to understand the timelines issue lol. Rufus' timeline did take over when they got back because in the world they returned to, Wyatt and Lucy share a room because Jessica never happened. Love the analysis though, so nice to hear someone dive into the show
I just got into the show and omggggg it’s sooooo good
This show was amazing and I can’t believe it’s only two seasons. I only have two episodes left in the second season and hoping it gets picked up again
Yeeeeesss! You can tell in the finale they had a great season 3 planned out!!! It would have been so fun and good to see them develop those themes and get some more episodic time history adventures
I am still hoping we're gonna get that season three one day
Why 😭😭😭this show is the best
I absolutely LOVE the whole series of Timeless including the movie! I think it ended beautifully & I agree with everything you said in your video :)
Is the movie abeilable?
Hol' up there is a movie ?
@@sharpx3494 i think it might be the 2 episodes that got added to season 2 on netflix
@@sharpx3494 I wish it didn't exist at all... It's so awful and horrible! 😈
Can we like steal the Lifeboat, since it’s still there, and change history so that we could have season 3? 😅
But what about the girl in the End who has Notes for the Timetravel machine? The Girl who spoked with J.F.K.... NBC need to tell us what is she doing...
Thats why i thought there was a season 3
She will play into the Christmas movie we get in 2023.
Amen Brother Timeless definitely deserve third and more season. I enjoy every single episode.
At least they gave it a proper ending and left the door open for more...im still waiting
I’m glad we at least got a proper finale after 2 cancellations. It could have been worse. Great analysis!
When Lucy gave flyn the book in 2014 sure that made a time loop
I'm glad they came back and finished it off
3:52 I’m pretty sure rufus’s timeline is favoured because Lucy and wyatt now have a double bed because they were together in rufus’s timeline
Omgg how complicated can it get 😂
The finale was to quick
The finale was very well done. It tied up the story arcs, while allowing for a continuation.
Nope, the _final_ wasn't very well done... It was awful!!!
I really love that this series got a great finale. So many other series don't have a satisfying ending.
That awful, horrible, disgusting and very disappointing final movie was everything but great and satisfying... 😞
@@_Lane_ It wasn't perfect, but at least there was something - and that is much more than so many other series that just ended
@@Luke_Go Well, if _this_ and only _this_ is what was thought to be the final "chapter" and the official ending of _Timeless_ by the screenwriters and the directors I wish it hadn't been made at all!!! 😡 (And the series would have ended with the last episode of the 2nd season.)
I think the final movie is like a crazy, illogical, totally out-of-character fanfiction (with full of stupid, crazy decisions and behaviours)! Flynn shouldn't have passed away and he and Lucy should have become a couple instead of Lucy and that boring and annoying Wyatt! (They do not match at all!!!)
So I simply ignore and reject the existence of the movie and I pretend it didn't happen at all. 😉 (I was so pissed off with the ending that I _had to_ write my own version... I _had to_ rewrite history. 😆)
@@_Lane_ Honestly, I think you're right and I am right.
You, like so many others, may prefer to have an open ending. For me, ... I am thinking of Terra Nova, Daybreak, and many other series. I hate that kind of ending and I prefer to have some kind of closure (even if it isn't what I have hoped for).
Thanks for sharing your version. You have valid points.
@@Luke_Go I don't have problems with open endings - but, that's not a question, I would have prefered if my version had been the (official) end! 😀 I'd have loved to see Lucy and Flynn's wedding or their (happy) future, their family life with their kids... ❤ If you want to know more details, if you want to know my (real and full) opinion, read my (very long) comment above! 😉
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me, too! 👍
I shippp Garcy but i wish Flynn got his wife and daughter back after all thats the main reason Flynn started all this in the first place
The death of his family was the reason he got involved in the first place. Without Flynn’s intervention the team would never had met and Rettenhouse would had kept the time machines carrying out their plan to change history in their favour. In a way his story was the most tragic one.
@@stargazer1295 yeah so true 🥺
I was so pissed off with that awful, horrible, disgusting and so very disappointing final movie that I _had to_ write my own version... I had to rewrite history! 😉
I'd rather call the final movie a crazy, illogical, totally out-of-character fanfiction instead of a real and normal ending... So I simply ignore and reject the existence of it and pretend it didn't happen all. 😉 (To me _Timeless_ ends with the last episode of the 2nd season, Chinatown.) Who cares about that shit final "fanfiction" movie, by the way??? I wrote Lucy and Flynn's happy ending. ❤ My version is _the real end_ and the so-called "official end" is the fanfiction. 😉
@@_Lane_ yess
@@_Lane_ what’s your FanFiction called?
If the show doesn't get revived by 2023 then all hope is lost!
Come on people petition!!!
2023 still. Not been revived. 😢
I watched this show from day one
I really loved this show but IMO the ending is wrong. The show works on the idea that there is only one reality - so they change history, come back and essentially are inserted into this new reality with their old memories, replacing their former selves (eg. Jessica has been interacting with wyatt up until a month prior, but the new wyatt that has replaced him in the timeline thinks she has been dead years). So at the end of season 2 gloomy after future Jessica and wyatt tell them to save Rufus, which means they would leave and then go the timeline we get at the end of the show. So basically one day the wyatt and Lucy we see at the end of the show are going to be replaced with gloomy, future wyatt and Lucy. So I think the proper ending should have been that the characters realise this, check the journal to see when future, gloomy selves left, leave a letter for their future selves explaining what happened and how wonderful their kids are, and then future lucy (that one actually had some kind of relationship with Flynn) goes back in time one final time to create the time paradox by meeting with Flynn.
Your take on the series finale was phenomenal! Well done!
I think its one of the best shows ever and they went and cancelled it! I love time travel and this was done great and wyatt and flyn are great characters its such a good show love it forever!!!
Yeah I loved this show and was sad to find out that it ended so quickly, would have loved to see more, and it deserved more too.
Just finished watching it on Netflix. Why hasn’t any further series been made?
It’s wonderful entertainment and offers some enjoyment during these oft dour days.
recomended this to my two sons!!
Spread this video more please guys!
Timeless will always be one of the best tv shows ever
What doesn’t make sense to me Is when Lucy goes back and sees Flynn, Wyatt and Rufus are still alive in that timeline but just at other places so why does Lucy only feel the affects after time traveling to a place she already was alive in but not Wyatt and Rufus?
Also in season 2 episode 10 when they went back to present time without Rufus, Agent Christopher and Mason still remembers Rufus and he didnt get erased from History.
I remember that mason stated that everyone reacts differently to the side effects so lucy probably just has a higher sensibility to it
I think it was such a huge cop out for Lucy to say "I don't want to bother getting my sister back because she might be different" or something. That was the main point of season 1 and then they just reject it altogether? That was lame!
I didn't know there is a proper finales until I found it from Netflix today..I like the show
I loved the ending it was so satisfying but I want more!!!! I love this show so much
I'd rather call the final movie a crazy, illogical, totally out-of-character fanfiction instead of a real, normal and satisfying ending...
Why are all series that i love all cancelled... I hate my life
Init it always happens
Timeless is Legends of Tomorrow without superheroes.
3:56 that's so true!! I just finished rewatching the series and definitely mason and agent christopher should not remember jessica being alive or rufus dying! though I can also understand them overlooking this fact for the story arc as it was the finale
Awesome video. Yeah I thought that “other agent” was Jessica’s “time replacement” once the change happened.
Underrated.
Many TV shows and movies have dealt with time travel. The idea fascinates people's imaginations.This shows premise is well-done but the insinuation of anyone into the past is fraught with danger.
just finished watching this show for the first time on Netflix, time travel is not exactly a new concept for TV but it was still a good watch. My only wish is that it had more seasons to watch.
One of my favorite shows ever!!
I just finished watching the finale and i just realize jiya's visions are just all about rufus they never explored beyond it the only time i remember that is not about rufus if the golden bridge but that never got explored(probably the future of the future wyatt and lucy timeline but other than that nothing more)
Now i just had a theory.... Jiya could actually control her visions through her emotions its just she never knew that is why it is all about rufus because she cares so much for him but that was not addressed i think
In the end of the show there is a girl planning to make a time machine so I think if they went after her the show could have and should have went on who wanted MORE Timeless? like if you do plus I have watched Timeless 6 times in a row and I still love it. I am also sad that they did not include the episodes from the trailer for season 1.
What episodes? Is there removed scenes?
@@vnkdabaz3513 The end of season 2 episode 10
I think Timeless should have at least 10 seasons series show.
If possible, add more scene about traveling through time to the future. They were at 2018 by the time, add 2020 pandemic scene and there could be a lot more to talk about.
@@MasterLKK yes, we need a time travel story that involves 2020
If 2020 gets added it will blow up the ratings for sure but obviously the world got better by 2023 lol
If jessica was erased by Flinn how could Jiya still ended up in 1888 and get scars?
Jessica never existed in 2018 -> nobody kidnaped Jia -> Jia didn escaped, the time machine didn't get shot -> Jia didn't lost in 1888 -> the geng didn't go to 1888 -> Rufus didn't die.... we need an explanation why did Jia still managed to spend 3 years in 1888, come back and rufus didn't die
(((Never mind))) I got it now
Could you explain it. Because I’m also confused.
PERSONAL I GOT TO KNOW THE SERIES 2 YEARS AFTER ITS TERMINATION AND I BELIEVE THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE ALSO KNOWING THE STORY NOW THAT'S WHY I believe that there should be at least one more season where lucy's sister is mainly the flynn family to be brought from back to the timeline, and Garcia's ending was very sad
Imma make this more confusing and guess that they actually travelled to a different universe every time the timeline doesn't add up. As in the lifeboat is malfunctioning
The only thing that bothered me about the final, was when Future Lucy and Wyatt left there life boat and took the one from the past.
If Lucy and Wyatt from the future have a life boat from the past, how can it become the one from the future. Doesn't add up.
ßerrısırıs the timeline in which they came from was distorted-therefore changed after Rufus was saved, making their attempt to give the team the future time machine a hopeful attempt to giving them something they would no longer need because they would no longer exist... I guess..
STOP BLOWING MY MIND!!!!
Loved the Finale. They even took a shot at Jan (from NBC the one who supposedly had something to do with he original season 1 cancellation)
I seriously hated that Timeless wasn't recognized enough by the audience. Being a history geek, I really wanted a third season.
Well, I'm one of the people that have watched the show on Netflix after it ended. I enjoyed it, and yes, a third season would have been nice.
By the way, you talked about how time travel works and how it effects to the people when it changes.
Well, I'm a big fan of Outlander and there, the time travel works differently, as if the future incorporates those changes made in the past into the future it self, even if those haven't been done yet, sort of Jiya's premonitions or sort of different parallel realities happening in different speeds and time travelers sort of jumping from one reality to another.
Now, I'll give some examples, that if you haven't seen (or read) Outlander, and you want to, you better not read the rest of this comment. Here's my big SPOILER ALERT!
Ok then, first example would be when Gaelis Duncan, in 1968 goes back in time to the XIII century (don't know the year exactly), then Claire does it in 1945 to 1743, but Gaelis, who meets Claire in 1743, recognises Claire's voice, because Claire was there in 1968 when Gaelis travelled through the stones shouting her name and trying to warn her. Then, in season three, Claire helps Joe examine the bones of a lady that was murdered in a cave in the west indies in the XIII century, later on, Claire goes back in time to 1766 to Edinburgh, then they go to the west indies in a ship to rescue young Ian and kills Gaelis in the process, then she realizes that the bones that she saw are in fact were Gaelis's bones and she was the one that killed her.
The last exemple would be the obituary, the one that says that Jaime and Claire died in a fire in the year 177(?), which in the show the printer smashed the date but in the book they says it (I know the year), I won't say it just in case someone that has watched the show and has been reading this comment, but has't read the book and wants to.
And well, that's it! Sorry for the length of the comment.
Best regards from Barcelona!
really wanted more seasons
The time machine in this show looks like an ophanim.
I've only just watched this series on netflix. It's like firefly all over again...why do I like series that get cancelled?
I'd love a series 3 but maybe expanding to world history to see more events. But I'd only watch it if flynn came back....that's possible with time travel right? 😅
Crossover episode with doctor who anyone? The doctor can teach them the rules of time travel. 😉
I miss Timeless
I just binged watched Timeless Seasons 1 and 2 on Netflix for 4 days. It's such a great show. I wish it gets more viewers. Who knows, Netflix might pick up this TV series
I was a bit disapointed. I thought, the finaly was quite anti-climactic, no big showdown, no great war or fight, Emma just got randomly shot and that was it.
I expected more for the end of a series and it felt even a bit boring due to it, to be honest. At the end everyone got his happy ever after and the credits rolled.
The series could have been soooo much greater, Yrah the wiriting was never realy great I forsaw nearly every big "surprises" and "Plot-Twists" that were about to come right after the first episodes. (Lucy and Wyatt coming together, totaly obvious. Lucys Father beeing a head of writtenhouse, just duh. Wyatts wife having been compromised, of cause, otherwise he wouldn't bond with Lucy in the end. And so on, the Writing realy doesn't take any risks to stray from the established old formula.) And therefor so much potential was wasted:
1.) Lucy beeing a "Princess" due to beeing the child of two top-rank Rittenhouse-Familys
It was mentioned from time to time but never realy got any deeper, she could have claimed her heir to infiltrate the Organisation.
2.) Jiya's power to see the future
This could have been a great addidtion to her role, giving it a super-hero vibe, but she just used it like twice in the entire series.
3.) Throwing over everything! (Show different outcomes of history)
The crew coming back from the past to find themselfs in an ENTIRE different reality and needing to make things right again
3.1.) Rittenhouse winning
The crew coming back from the past to find themselfs in a reality where Rittenhouse had succseeded in their plans. It would be very interesting to see how that world would have looked like.
3.2) Rittenhouse never existed
The crew coming back from the past to find themselfs in a reality where Flynn succeded in killing the founders. It would be very interesting to see how that world would have looked like.
And maybe even needing to do the exact opposite, save the foundation of Rittenhouse because it would be neccesarry for some major event to happen in history.
Some additional Idears I'd liked
- The Mashine having a malfunction, sending them back to the middleages
That would be a great fanservice to all fantasy fans.
- Lucy using her knowledge of the future as some sort of superpower to impress the people, claiming to be a sorcceress.
I know, its not revolutionary in any way due to have seen it in many other time-travel serie but it's always nice to see, at least I for myself like that.
Things that nagged me:
- In the first season. Everytime Flynn talks to Lucy he claims to have good reason but never explains her anything, just sys that she will see some day.
And when he captured Wyatt he states "I have no secrets" and just tells him about his murdered family. That felt so cheap and bad. But he had that diary, I guess he just wanted to make sure that things run just as described in there, but what if he hadn't, if he told everything outright? Well I know why they had done it, to keep the mystery about Rittenhouse and build up slowly to the conclusion.
- In the first what felt like 10 Episodes at the end of each of them Rufus strugles against Rittenhouse saying he wont take part any longer. Do they think we are gold fish who forget every character after each episode? There was totaly no need to show quite the same szene 10 times, we don't need to see it to know it had happened because we already know the character.
- Episodes following the same structure every time. It's lazy and just playing save.
- The design of the time machine aka the Stargate 2.0. It wasn't anything original or creative.
- If Lucy is such a princess, why hasn't she got into Rittenhouse earlier, it makes no real sence. (Sure otherwise she wouldn't have been part of the team, or would she?)
I have some mote Things in my Mind, too, but this post is already way too long, so... see ya :)
Love it. Agree with everything there
What annoyed the most and was very plain to see was whoever was in charge of this show just phoned it in from around the end of the first season onwards
Not enough cars put into developing storylines or even continuity whatsoever.
For example at the start there’s always a little segment when they’re looking through clothes
Come the end they’re just showing up in outfits
The crown for it is The time travel work though He goes through it well in this video but I think he takes it easy on them. It was so so poorly handled but because of the premise you end up just watching it like you’re watching a cartoon. (Just accept Cayote runs off a Cliff stops for 2 seconds looks at camera , then plunges 100ft and gets up)
Finally, I think it would still probably be running if the acting was better.
In particular The men playing Mason and Rufus were absolutely dreadful at the end of the day. They always reminded you you were watching a show. You could never suspend disbelief with them.
Overall the premise was absolutely awesome but was botched at every turn
Writers, directors and actors
I wonder if it would had a better run on the CW Network.
There was one weird aspect throughout the entire series. Every minute in the present seemed to be one hour in the past. This is how the writers managed to fit many plot points together. They mention the time difference in one or two of the episodes, and it was probably the most important thing to note when you see many of the scenes back at the headquarters or bunker as they talk when the lifeboat is traveling back in time.
As for Christopher and Connor remembering Rufus’ death, I think they sulked about it and talked about it before everyone switched to the old timeline.
Wait so what about at the end where the little girl from the science fair was drawing different versions of the time machine..and I still don't understand what exactly happens to a person after they travel to a time they already exist in cuz Flynn dies but Lucy is ok ?
Partly that's why (your last sentence) the final movie is like a crazy, sloppy, illogical and _totally out-of-character_ fanfiction instead of a real and normal ending... So I simply ignore and reject the existence of it and pretend it never happened. 😉
And no matter what anybody (including the crazy, stupid scriptwriters) says, Lucy and Flynn belong together. ❤ (Who cares about that shit final movie, by the way??? I wrote their happily ever after. 😇)
American history is so short, imagine if the Italian or the Chinese or the Egyptian would have had produced "Timeless"...
Or the Hungarian... 😉
Best show ever but wish they showed us more about the other time machine the girl was gonna build
Ever think about what episodes could have released if the finale never happened?
I got some ideas. Give me your own.
I was so pissed off with that awful, sloppy, disappointing and _totally out-of-character_ "fanfiction" final movie that I had to write my own version... I _simply had to_ rewrite history. 😆
(Lucy & Flynn ❤❤❤)
Garcyyyy 🥺🥺🥺
Because the movie did close the series pretty much, I think sometime with some kind of miracle, if we will get another season it should be unrelated to the movie
Which Movie?
@@Eduis3983 the Christmas miracle is considered as a movie
Gil Reshef yes they would be “forced” to wipe that movie out from the equation 😁 pretend it was all a dream or something. But a continuation of this will never happen. Or maybe in like 10-15 years someone wants to do a reboot with brand new actors LOL
But the movie did leave some space for another season, like the fact they kept the lifeboat and there was this girl at the very end designing a time machine
Helo Lange yeah they did but IF some network wants to continue the story - new actors and characters would probably be involved. Feels like this team’s story ended with the movie. Otherwise it feels like they have to pretend the movie didn’t happen or some other twist has to happen.
😲😲😲 Spoilers!!!😲😲😲 I just started watching Timeless on cable... can't believe they don't have a season 3...😲😲😲
Season 3. Please.
I liked the show....but they didn't do well the timey-wimey staff.... I would love a season 3!
I think I couldnt watch the episode after the future Lucy and wyatt came back to rescue rufus....couldnt find the next episode. Can someone help?
"The Miracle of Christmas" Parts 1 & 2 are available on Netflix if you're in the UK, or on Hulu if you're in the US. Hope this helps :)
@@FlowerProductions1 hi thanks. I'm from Asia. I ll try Netflix. Is that the 2 hour ending of Timeless .....
@@sieg8463 Yes, it is the 2-hour finale. Maybe try using a VPN if you can't watch it? :)
@@FlowerProductions1 thank you again. Will do that.
Its all on hulu now
Probably I want to see if Carol indoctrinate Lucy when she was young. Imagine entire team turn against new Rittenhouse under Lucy Cahill lead. It must be broke Wyatt heart.
My though I think Abigail would look good playing villains in this shows, like Season 2 Episode 1.
I think the first season was pretty good. but the actions had pretty much no consequences in the present. A different article here and there was all that seemed to happen. Absolutely no change in global politics or technology. Just take the first episode: If the Hindenburg wouldn't have crashed the way it did, the era might have lasted a bit longer which would have had an effect on the development of other methods of air transport. It's highly unlikely that everything they did never had any consequences on society as a whole or the development of technology.
when last episod lucy's grandpa was died in 1888.so lucy cannot be exsisted isn't it?how ever want to see season 3.
Lucy's (great) grandpa died after having a child (lucy's grandma) there're some scenes about that, he said she(lucy's grandma) was 2 years old when he left her... so his death will cause nothing to lucy's timeline
i love lucy))
IM ON SEASON 2 DISC 4 SO I WONT WATCH ALL YOUR VIDEO RIGHT NOW AS I DONT WANT THE LAST DISC SPOILT. BUT I WILL COME BACK IN HERE IF I REMEMBER ONCE IM FINISHED WITH THE LAST DISC AND EDIT IN HERE. SO FAR IM ENJOYING THIS SHOW AND IM SAD THERE ISNT A SEASON 3 OR EVEN A SEASON 4. I THINK THIS SHOW GETS BETTER AS IT GOES ON.
IVE FINISHED WATCHING THE LAST DISC. I ACCIDENTALLY PUT SEASON ONE DISC 4 BACK IN MY DVD PLAYER, SILLY BILLY ME. THERE IS NO DISC 4 OF SEASON 2 BUT YOU COULD CLASS THE CHRISTMAS DISC AS SEASON 2 DISC 4 IF YOU LIKE BECAUSE THAT IS THE LAST DISC UNFORTUNATELY.
I REALLY DO THINK THE FURTHER YOU GET INTO THE DISCS THE BETTER THEY BECOME. IM MORE OF A FAN OF OLDER MOVIES, I DO LIKE OLD MOVIES BUT THIS TV SERIES IS WORTH GETTING IF YOU ENJOY TIME TRAVEL LIKE I DO.
I USED TO LIKE THE OLD TIME TUNNEL SERIES. THAT DATES BACK TO THE 1960S.
I DID LIKE THE ENDING OF TIMELESS, IT WAS GOOD. ITS NICE WHEN A MOVIE HAS A GOOD ENDING.
IN ABOUT A YEAR OR SO, I WILL WATCH TIMELESS AGAIN. I ALWAYS WATCH GOOD TV SHOWS AND MOVIES MORE THAN ONCE.
ONE MORE THING IF I HAVENT ALREADY MENTTIONED IT IS I DID NOT HEAR ANY OFFENSIVE F WORDS THANK GOODNESS. THATS IMPORTANT TO ME I DONT HEAR THAT BAD WORD.
couldn't they just went back to the time when flint sent the mother ship to them and pick him up so he doesn't die
Yes i think he could have deffo could have been saved and i ship Garcy I absolutely loved them i think there better then lyatt tbf
Yeah they should pick it up I think that he deserves a third season and a fourth season and a fifth season because of the way it is the same with the maze Runner the maze Runner should have a full film and a third film such sad that you get these weird people who ruin good things in the industry today but thank God it wasn’t for everything
Enma was also time travelling
I wasn’t satisfied at all. Flynn dying was pointless. And after all the talk about “I know some how, someway, we will save the ones we love” with Lucy and she just gives up on her sister and doesn’t try to save Flynn? I didn’t understand that. Plus, Rufus was saved by him and Jiya never had to live in the 1880’s. They owed it to him to save him from 2012.
Lucy and Wyatt didn’t make sense either. They have this conversation about how the only thing keeping them apart is something only the two of them remember. But it DID happen in their other timeline. He DID choose Jessica over her so no matter if others remember, Lucy knows the truth. It doesn’t suddenly absolve Wyatt of anything. He treated her like crap even chastising her when he though she slept with Flynn when it was none of his fucking business. They treated Lucy’s character like a desperate woman that would take scraps from a guy who didn’t ever put her first. I think she deserved better. MUCH better.
Jiya and Rufus made me happy. Mason and Denise surviving everything was great. Wish Denise had gotten to time travel though.
Unfortunately, a lot of these issues are something a third season could have fixed and likely would have actually dealt with. Flynn's end was completely unsatisfying, but there was no way to really "redeem" him to the extent they wanted to, resolve his storyline, or flesh him and Lucy's relationship out to what it had the potential to be in one special. Same with Lucy and Wyatt; their relationship likely would have had to do a lot of developing over the third season, a sort of tear-them-down-to-build-them-back-up scenario, but they wanted them to get together so they had to unfortunately fast forward through a lot of their development to reach their pretty unearned happy endgame. They just had to do the best they could within the constraints of the special to end the series honoring their original vision and the fanbase.
Denise did get to travel in the last story.
@@davidmckie7128 I don’t remember that.
Disagree about Lucy and Wyatt completely. Wyatt explains that nobody in history has ever experienced the relationship problems they're experiencing in like episode 6 or 7 of season 2. To review... He spent one season trying to get back his dead wife. He then fell for Lucy and in an effort to try to move on he let her know in the Hollywood episode which was great. Then they come back to the present and his wife is alive. This man didn't leave his ex girlfriend only to want her back again. His wife was murdered and his love for her would still be a very real thing. His new love for Lucy would also be very real but is trumped by the history of his wife and the fact that he only lived for her and her alone for so many years after she died. He's allowed to be jealous of Lucy and Flynn too, because his feelings for Lucy are also very real. He got a bit possessive but that's more of an emotional response from a twisted situation than a logical thought out choice. If Jessica remained good I'm sure Wyatt would have stayed with her and let Lucy go fully after a few more episodes but that's a boring story. It made much more sense to make her bad and have the Lucy and Wyatt relationship reach a satisfying conclusion. Wyatt had his heart crushed multiple times, first by his wife being murdered, followed by a couple of attempts at saving her, only to feel no hope so he gave up, but then to have her dangled Infront of him again, and then finding out she's a planted agent playing you. What happened to Lucy wasnt great but it pales in comparison to his tragic love story with Jessica.
Timeless does what Chibs don't.
If they kept going to history and being photographed people would realise somehing was going on
I like the series although it's full of logical and historical goofs and mistakes and it should have been at least twice longer...
I simply ignore and reject the existence of that awful, horrible, disgusting and disappointing final movie, by the way, I cannot accept it as part of the canon and the official end of _Timeless_ !!! (I'd rather call it a crazy, sloppy, illogical, _totally out-of-character_ fanfiction instead of a real and normal ending...) Garcia Flynn shouldn't have passed away, he would have deserved a better, a way a better ending, a chance to settle down, start a new life and have a new family (with Lucy!), a chance to love again and to be loved in return. ❤ And have I mentioned the series should have been at least twice longer...?
Lucy and Wyatt:
• are forced
• are boring
• are annoying _together_
• are better as friends than as a couple
• do not match at all (neither the characters nor the actors)
• there is no spark, no chemistry and no (sexual) tension between them
If Lucy and Wyatt were a real-life couple, they would be divorced within a few years 'cause they have absolutely nothing in common! Lucy is very smart, well-read, intelligent but Wyatt... Well, Wyatt is not! What the hell would they talk about???
So I pretend the final "fanfiction" movie didn't happen at all. 😉 In my story Rufus is saved and Jessica is killed by Flynn (but he doesn't have to sacrifice himself!), then he and Lucy admit their feelings and love to each other, become a couple, get married, have 3 daughters (the eldest is Amy, the youngers are identical twins, Lily and Rose) and live happily ever after. ❤
No matter what anybody (including the crazy, stupid scriptwriters) says, Lucy and Flynn belong together! 💕 I was so pissed off with the final movie that I had to write my own version... I _had to_ rewrite history! (I wrote their happy ending. 😇) So I pretend that so-called "official end" is the fanfiction and my story is the real, normal and official ending. 😄
I really love Garcia Flynn's character, by the way, he's a very interesting, well-written character, he's a "loveable villain" who is not two dimensional, who has depths. And he's so hot, handsome and attractive! 😎 (Way more handsome than that babyfaced, gay look-alike Wyatt. 😈)
I can't believe that after all the rubbish shows there are on the various TV networks, that this one in particular got cancelled. NBC, you should be ashamed, ratings a side, this had more hold on its viewers than most, also you actually learned something about history and the characters they met on their journeys. My favourite episode was that of the murder hotel, it actually got me reading up about it.
That and the McCarthy witch haunts, a dark day in American history, also the guy who followed Jodi Foster, as most of us only knew about the attempt on Reagan?
I do believe that time travel goofs aside, that the series could have gone another season, as there are still ways that a come back could be possible, like suppose Emma didn't die and instead gave away knowledge of future events, after all she would know the dates, position and times of the mother ship, all she had to do was to have someone there at the right time.....
There is much more to this than meets the eye, and I'm sure there are some very good writers out there that could come up with clever idea on how to bring this show back, and what about the girl at the end with the drawing of the machine, I hope someday it may happen.
But it would need the executives at NBC to grow a pair and actually put this into motion.
NO i will never be happy with Flynn’s ending
You don't have to accept the final movie as part of the canon and the official ending... Because it's awful, horrible and disgusting!!! 😡
Why TIMELESS don't deserve a 3rd Season? For a very simple reason, I don't want to ruin the beautiful life that Wyatt and Lucy is having after all those sacrifices, pains and struggles they have to overcome... it'll be unfair...
Lucy and Wyatt are the worst and most forced fictional couple I've ever watched...