@@snek1356 until you realize Yi Sang's mirror self (Sang Yi) has wings made of broken mirror shards, and is one of the main struggling points of Yi Sang's personality that he doesn't have them. Until he finally realizes that he always had them at the end of Canto 4 ends where one wing coalesces from broken mirror shards.
@@kyoken8691 His "wings" may of been literal there but in general they're metaphorical for the freedom to do and develop what he wants without repercussion or compromise. he doesn't want literal wings to fly about with.
In the game, the first two parts of the song are actually played separately for each voice, it makes the dissonance a lot more obvious as they're not actually replying to each other. Just saying very similar things at the same time.
In essence, they both believed they were the reason for their partner’s suffering and they would be better if they never were by their side in the first place… when in reality, it was the opposite. Heathcliff was Catherine’s everything, and vice versa. Without the other in their life, sorrow turned into anger at themselves, anger turned into atonement, and ….. most of this comment section has played Canto VI. We all know how this turned out.
Seeing how everyone is going "lmao you think thats methaporical? haha" makes me feel like Catharsis who hasnt played the games has a better understanding of them than the average project moon fan. Like... yes the lyrics might describe something thats happening literally in the screen but the games are on itself a bunch of metaphors. Abnormalities in LobCorp are born from things like fears and desires, Ruina has Angela learning what it means to be human by watching the different people in the city, Limbus has each of its characters face their own past and traumas while also die over and over for the sake of the company they work for. Most people feel like The City is written like in a "would that be fucked up or what?" way while in reality everything is a mirror for something else. tl;dr: good analysis.
THANK YOU Like, for days I've read comments about why it's literal and like, neat, but I'm talking about the POETRY Cassie writes for the verses mainly. "And the hope inside your eyes have been stolen" "And the hearts we held so tight won't stay broken" "The message has already been said through patches of violet." That last one being the most literal, but definitely playing as a metaphor too. This is definitely one of their more literal tracks, but Cassie will never stop tossing beautiful little nuggets of quotation in everything lol
@@CatharsisYT Heathcliff's story is based on Wuthering Heights, if you have happened to be forced through that in high school in the US Hence Heath and Cathy (Catherine). All 12 major LC characters are based off classic works of literature from various cultures, some more loosely, some more literally, this is more on the literal end for sure
@@CatharsisYT very late, but I wholeheartedly agree. I think one of the best parts of Mili PM songs are just the storytelling via music, both lyrical and musical. I's so good that both people with and without context can understand and get to the same conclusion that the song wants to tell. Their lyrics have both literal accuracy and metaphorical depth. Anyways, if it counts for anything, not that it has to, I'm pretty sure that all the "haha you think the lyrics are only metaphorical?" comments are just PM fans coping with the horrors of Limbus storytelling. Your guesses and analysis were so accurate you essentially just described the plot of the whole Canto. Not that that makes the comments any less annoying to read, but yeah. Anyways, I like your analysis. It's in depth, spot on, and I too wish that the lyrics were only metaphorical (
As a quickish way of explaining the story: its about 2 people blaming themselves for the suffering of the other Thats why they both say the same things. Now, for a more indepth explanation (Spoilers below) In limbus company, paralel universes are a thing more or less. And in every single world pretty much, these two always end poorly. Neither gathers up the courage to confess to the other, and eventually one of them dies, leading the other to blame themselves. It goes to the point where two of those alternative versions (one of each part of this couple) decides to travel from world to world killing their paralel selves, wanting to "delete" every single instance of themselves to prevent the other from suffering. The "Round and round we go" reffers to how this is something that has repeated in every single world, and how, in their eyes, it will repeat as long as they remain. There are two more things worth mentioning. One, ingame the voices are separate until the last phase of a bossfight, showing how incomplete they are without the other. And two (and last), towards the end of the song, the lyrics change from essentially saying "I must be the reason you suffered and I wish you a life without me" to "Losing you hurt me so much that I am lying to myself when I say that you would be better off without me"
To talk about the themes of the story without spoiling the story itself: The story is about a relationship falling apart because of miscommunication, but also major themes of self-loathing. The two lovers each think that they're the cause of the other's misery (hence 'I must be the reason why'). Classism is also a theme, with one of them thinking that he's naturally "a witless brigand, a miserable wretch, a savage beast" and that will never change despite how much he tries. The self-loathing also gives you a darker interpretation for the 'Delete' portion.
This song is even better in game. When you fight Erlking the deeper voice is the one singing, but when you switch phases to [ ] fight the lyrics are instead sung by the lighter voice. It was glorious
The song is amazing and the analysis was quite great as well! Without any spoilers, it is about a love story that got denied due to poor communication and jealousy, which eventually leads to a lot of sadness, obsession, anger and self destruction from both sides. It is based on the book Wuthering Heights, so it's pretty depressing overall. One part that is missed from just the short video is that initially the song is only from the perspective of the guy and you are lead to believe that he is the only one who went through some really insane self destructive behaviour - but the song still feels incomplete at this stage and it plays earlier than you would expect in the story. So in the finale, the song is played from both perspectives as the fight phases change and eventually it leads to the duet and the realization that they were very similar.
It was a good guess, trully But you failed to get one crucial detail "I must be the reason why" "You must tell me all this lies" "Wishing you a better life" "I still believe in this lie" "That you'll live a better life" *"Without ME by YOUR side"* They are not really in disagreement with each other, but with themselves They chase each other, yes, but do so trying to get themselves removed from the other's lives.... You can only be happy without me, I am the cause of your suffering But at the same time thay can't really be apart from one another because they love each other Is the most toxic Romeo & Juliet relationship you'll ever find, and its called Wuthering Heights Check the book if you haven't And keep in mind, almost everyone is an unreliable narrator there
So here’s the story explained poorly, the words worst love triangle where no one has the balls to say what they’re thinking so they start killing themselves and stealing from a guy crying about a violin
@@monikaisdonewiththeinterne2039 right, it kinda didn’t feel that way to me since it wasn’t a question of who Catherine would love, the conflict was purely about whether Cathy and heath could talk to each other or not.
your read on the situation is surprisingly really spot on!! as mentioned, it's about two lovers who kept misunderstanding one another but refusing to just come out and say what they mean, leading to a drastic response on both parts that is only understood to be a misunderstanding when it's too late to go back. I really love the presentation in game, because only one set of vocals plays against the respective boss, with the bosses and the vocals switching as the fight progresses, so there's a constant sense of being incomplete with the call and response in the song being a call with no response. it's only in the final boss phase, with the last verse of the song included, that both voices play together :')
This song is probably my favorite way of incorporating a boss theme into the battle. During the fight you switch between fighting two bosses and each boss uses one of the sets of vocals until it eventually becomes a duet for the final phase.
You were remarkably spot on with it being about a breakdown of communication, the crux of the issue is that the two characters could never be honest with each other about their feelings to the very end. So now they both believe themselves to be responsible for all the misery and despair the other experienced, and think the other would be better off without them in their life. Also, the Delete is not metaphorical, they both want to actually delete every version of themselves from every parallel world, because in both of their eyes, the other can only be happy if they do not exist to cause them misery. This has instantly become my favourite Limbus Company Mili song, both for the song itself and for how perfectly it tells this story, because is an earlier fight you hear this same song except it's only the deeper (Male) lines as you only fight one of them, but in this version you repeatedly switch between fighting both during the fight which is when the song changes between the deeper (Male) and higher (Female) versions depending on which phase you're in and who you're fighting until the very end when both sing at the same time. Through Patches of Violet is a genuine masterpiece of storytelling.
very based for not waiting even though the youtube compression hurts my soul--i was anxious to get someone's thoughts on it as much as i am to hear a solid copy of it
The song starts with the high and low voices seperate in all but the last phase really emphasizing the "aloneness" each character experiences without eachother. at the last phase they come back together at the end as almost an understanding between the two parties being found. The song also seems to be very "bach fughe like" and additionally this limbus company cantos basis is on an old book called "wuthering heights" which was published in the late 19th century. really cool piece! Note: Made this before your analysis so I may be repeating some of the things you said.
Canto 6 Spoilers below! I wanna say, the way they present this in the canto is interesting. Usually, you go into a "dungeon" and in the final fight the song starts to build up (as in more lyrics starts to appear after some time.) But in this Canto, there is no dungeon. It starts playing when you fight Erlking Heathcliff. The moment you first hear it, you can tell it feels _incomplete_ until you start to fight at the last node. The fight against him and Every Catherine included both "male" and "female" side, completing each other.
The moment you break Oldcliiff's first threshold, get the cutscene, and enter the Every Cathy phase, her side of the duet taking over the song? Now THAT was the Mili Peak Moment of the Canto. The moment everything about the lyrics truly click in your head. And that's just the fantastic gameplay-music combo Limbus does time and again 🔥
Love this song so much. A duet of two lovers who will never find each other. They could never be honest with each other, and so when one finally left, they both wished for each other, but could never meet again. They always want to be together, but can never agree, as you said. Also, spoilers. Limbus includes a concept called identities, alternate versions of characters that a player can use to help in a fight. The song has to do with not only the lovers themselves, but their two alternate selves, each wishing to kill every version of themselves to save the other, yet wanting to love the other as well. Their boss fight has them on two different realities, they can hear each other, but will never be able to meet, never be able to agree. They will only ever see eachother, through patches of violet.
With playing through 6-48 when it first came out, compared to listening to the song now, it's two different emotions. You seemed to have a great grasp on what the song is portraying, but it hits on a whole another level when playing through the game itself with the music evolving, switching around throughout the fight. Within context, the song does its job the best. And as for the "Delete" segment, that's not all that metaphorical...
there's actually a person doing the mix male and female version sing it one by one and at both at same time But it's gonna be become long loop version like in game, but still good one when you can hear male and female sing it like it's from their own pov
"Among the tragedies of the mixed world of possibilities of two men and women who believe that their loved ones will be happy only when each other disappears, a world of only one possibility with a small hope of getting to know each other's hearts in it"
“I couldn’t wait” Very valid, man… I couldn’t wait either! My favourite Mili song now! My favourite part is the “I must be the reason why, you’ve given up your smiles, and the hope inside your eyes get stolen!” The entire segment is AMAZING.
People always want the big Mili boss fight songs to be reacted to, but a lot of Studio EIM's work for the regular battle themes are also very interesting. They don't have lyrics to convey themeing, but they manage to do so with instrumentation and lietmotif, and a lot of them are absolute bangers. Some of my favorites are Canto II B1 and C1, Canto III C1, Canto IV B1 and E1, Canto V F1, and Canto VI B1- Though really, Studio EIM has shown incredible range and basically all of the regular fight music from Limbus Company is incredible and worth a listen.
You know, for someone who hasn't actually played the game or seen what happens your analysis and guesses continue to be on point, that's genuinely impressive (and the reason these reaction videos are the ones I look forward the most)
As others have already mentioned, the story is about 2 lovers who think themselves responsible for each others miseries. One point I want to add is that it was implied alot that due to poor communication, the 2 lovers head on 2 parallel paths rather than their fate being intertwined. This is represented in the song when they sing in parallel of course and is a great representation of how love is sometimes like. Wanting the best for one another but being afraid of stating ones true feelings in fear of rejection, causing each other to self sacrifice in the name of love even if it was never wanted by the other person.
Not only does the two parts play separately for most the fight (only coming together for the end), but the length of the fight means you hear it loop the first section a fair bit, “round and round we go” Also, both halves of the relationship/boss fight is an alternative version of a character from here looking to kill every iteration of themselves so the other won’t be miserable. Those two never get to be on screen together or hear each other. Love drove them apart, and led them to believe the other was better off without them. Your Heathcliff can mend the distance, but not soon enough to reach a happy ending
A youtube channel named NotherWael made a remix for this song with the in game scenes and phases. Even if you don't play the game, it will give you better idea of what's happening while the song is playing. You don't need to make it a content but if I really recommend to check that remix out by yourself, it will be enjoyable
Yeah, without knowing the story, you guess pretty much everything in the game in your analysis. Make me admire Mili for being able to tell a story through a song that can make a person without knowing the story guesses correctly, and your skills to listen to the song and analyze it. Keep up the good work!
I mean thing about pre official songs is that the in game version is mixed differently than official version, like some people prefer in game or mix versions of Compass to official :D this one I don't know if I like them starting song with duet when it starts in game with them seperately, but I wouldn't know how official would do it
It's actually incredibile how close you were to guessing pretty much the story behind the Song To boil it down ti the simplest terms, the story Is a Classic tragedy, with two star crossed lovers that end badly becouse of their own characters flaws, in this case, impulsiveness and lnability to communicate their feelings They end up thinking that the other doesn't love them, and they end up blaming themselves for all of the pain the other goes through One of them decides to leave, change and inprove and come back as a Better Person worthy of love (The First chorus about how each of them says "i must be" they assume, not ask) The other takes It as abbandonment, and decides to end their own Life (Deleates) The First comes back too late to save the second, and in their last moments they realize that they unconditionally loved each other all the time, but it's too late (The second chorus with "i might be the reason why" they finally stop assuming and ask the questione)
This mix, I was curious which he'd use, I like some of the other mixes more especially the ones that have the "male" vocals and the female vocals switching off, especially since that's closer to what they do in game. However, this probably pretty close to the version that mili will release.
Hey Carthasis, had you thought about giving Bulbel by mili a try? It's pretty good song in my opinion, if so I'd love to see your reaction video bout it one day
Yes!, and maybe check out Ender Lilies OST to, because they are made and if im not wrong 100% by Mili. My recommendations if you decided to check it out is. Bloom - Outro, Bible - Intro, Accolade - Outro, and Bloom - Intro.
A bit unfortunate that you chose the 3 mins ver, the whole song is actually over 7 minutes long. The one you used unfortunately had the "round and round we go" part order mixed up with the climax one. It's supposed to go with cassie solo it with the deep vocal version then the high one then back to the deep one with some lyrics changed and also back to the high one with also the lyrics changed slightly. Then it supposed to play the duet you heard from this one.
Problem with this song (even probably in official release): That it's not an actual complete experience. I think it goes: 1 voice sing one part (male-ish version of Mili voice), then another voice sing different part (her normal/female voice), then they finally sing in duet full version (version which you listened to). Found original script (and ye, that version is 13 minutes) : "Follows how the song plays in-game: both (intro), male, female, instrumental, male, female, instrumental, female, both."
To talk about its story and my thoughts on it... This story hits hard, because it is mainly talking about communication, which is not done right nowadays. There are so many conflicts in the world that happens because groups refuse to talk, even when all they want is actually not so different. Gender issuses are one of such. We all want harrashment to go away and everyone to get decent treatment.. but fight over it for rather selfish reasons. SPOILAR ALART! Story mainly follows that of [Wuthering heights] novel. Heathcliff was abused adopted child in a rich family. Father is decent, but son Hindly is horrible, falls in love with daughter Catherine, despite she cares for Heath, but he eavesdrop her talking about marring another rich guy who also harrassed Heath. Heath runs away instead of confronting her, vowing only to return sucessful. But when he return, she is dead. And it is partially on himslef as she missed him very much, she suffered greatly. (There is some complecated story on it but ill pass on that) He meets another Heathcliff from a parrallel world, claiming he vowed to kill everyone who made her misserable and die... and it was himself who had a hand in killing her in the end. He would kill himself in every world for revenge of every Cathy killed. Plot goes on, ...and Heath realize in the end that Cathy cared and loved him from the beginning and if he confronted Cathy, things wouldve been different. Later, he finds out Cathy saw the samething. Heathcliff in every world was suffering because of her, and couldnt leave nor comeback to the manor which pained him greatly, as she was still binding him. So Cathy from parrallel world also wanted to kill herself so she could free him. (She kills herself so she could free him, and he never forgives himself for her death.) So she tries to let Cathy2 come over to her world. But original Cathy1 is trapped in the manor as a spirit. Company fights off both Heath2 and Cathy2 in different dimentions. While Heath1 tries to reach out to Cathy1 and meets. She realize to stop both beings from other worlds is to erase herself. Thus, Clear(Delete) All Cathy (Cashe) data using players device. (In Korean, both cathy and cashe is written 캐시 (actually 캐시 and 캐쉬) In the end, both Heath2 and Cathy2 meet in the same dimentions. Eventhough they sought each other in vain, they end up hurting one another. Heath1 gets a peak at all parralel worlds of himself and Cathy during deletion. He sees all the tradegy, but see a glimer of hope, as one of them picture 2 graves beside the manor, that of himself and Cathy, and 2 young adults who looks just like Heath and Cathy. Fight ends and he vows to bring her back. I really left the details out, but it might make more sense when you know the whole story.
While this one is really good, I kinda wish he could have experienced the split parts of the songs, because it makes the real duet portion so much more powerful. Basically, minus the beginning portion and the end portion, the higher and lower voices are split into their own sections. Splicing them together like this, as well down as it was, defeats some of the themeing established within the actual battle(s) themselves. Support the official release of course, but if you want to get more of a feel of what I mean, even just listening to it in your own time, check out BlueTune's (In-Game ver. mix).
How did you manage to get the theme of communication and misunderstanding so easily without knowing the game's story beats? I know Mili packs a lot of reference to the story's events but damn
I would recommend you to read the game story if playing is not an option for you. The story is hella fire. And what you believe to metaphorical might not be. Experiencing the ingame story with the song is the ultimate way to enjoy Mili song.
Very close, but as you said the portrayal matters. All I can say is despite both sides sounding very similar intentwise, until the very end, it stays an incomplete duet.
If I remember correctly, you have reacted to world.execute(me), I wanted to suggest you also listen to the key ingredient version of that song, the arrangement is pretty clever and very enjoyable.
"The lyrics were definitely metaphorical"
Stage 1: Denial
We are gonna be in the denial phase for a while, I think
Just like "In the Place Of Love"
Clear all cathy... I mean, cashe data
@@user-wr6zt9lh7n Who?
6:26 "I'm not sure how literal the 'delete' thing is-" HOOO BOY!
Remember to regularly clear the caches on your computer to prevent potential slowdown
Clear all Cathy.
@@ThrashRats who the hell is ⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️
Hokma balls @@kinkaimaru4632
@@kinkaimaru4632 Someone's OC
'the delete is probably metaphorical' lol. lmao
Imagine thinking part of a Mili song is metaphorical.
@@april5356 To be fair, a decent bit of Fly, my Wings is metaphorical alongside Yi Sang's whole story.
@@snek1356 until you realize Yi Sang's mirror self (Sang Yi) has wings made of broken mirror shards, and is one of the main struggling points of Yi Sang's personality that he doesn't have them.
Until he finally realizes that he always had them at the end of Canto 4 ends where one wing coalesces from broken mirror shards.
@@kyoken8691 His "wings" may of been literal there but in general they're metaphorical for the freedom to do and develop what he wants without repercussion or compromise. he doesn't want literal wings to fly about with.
I'm sad Yisang's base EGO didn't get the glass wing tbh
Yeah, I love the story between Heathcliff and [ ]. It's peak.
Yeah I know, it's especially tragic what happened between Heathcliff and 2&3:`π`°#8$7¢=€°€
I just find it strange they never explained who was that person on the coffin
@@ulysses4566 Sinclair literally says it
It's Cathy.
Whoever that is,.
Man im pretty sad about what happened to [REDACTED].
@@Tzentr_n yeah but we are told nothing of this Cathy person, weird
The "delete" is definitely not metaphorical. It's probably the most literal thing there.
The "I must be the reason why you have given up your smiles" is borderline identical to what both Heath and Catherine think they did towards the other
Who got deleted?Heathcliff or &$@*%*@?
Distortion woman here
@@artemsheen8064 actually its lord ayin, but carmen has hijacked his account
In the game, the first two parts of the song are actually played separately for each voice, it makes the dissonance a lot more obvious as they're not actually replying to each other. Just saying very similar things at the same time.
In essence, they both believed they were the reason for their partner’s suffering and they would be better if they never were by their side in the first place… when in reality, it was the opposite.
Heathcliff was Catherine’s everything, and vice versa. Without the other in their life, sorrow turned into anger at themselves, anger turned into atonement, and ….. most of this comment section has played Canto VI. We all know how this turned out.
Seeing how everyone is going "lmao you think thats methaporical? haha" makes me feel like Catharsis who hasnt played the games has a better understanding of them than the average project moon fan.
Like... yes the lyrics might describe something thats happening literally in the screen but the games are on itself a bunch of metaphors. Abnormalities in LobCorp are born from things like fears and desires, Ruina has Angela learning what it means to be human by watching the different people in the city, Limbus has each of its characters face their own past and traumas while also die over and over for the sake of the company they work for.
Most people feel like The City is written like in a "would that be fucked up or what?" way while in reality everything is a mirror for something else.
tl;dr: good analysis.
THANK YOU
Like, for days I've read comments about why it's literal and like, neat, but I'm talking about the POETRY Cassie writes for the verses mainly.
"And the hope inside your eyes have been stolen"
"And the hearts we held so tight won't stay broken"
"The message has already been said
through patches of violet."
That last one being the most literal, but definitely playing as a metaphor too. This is definitely one of their more literal tracks, but Cassie will never stop tossing beautiful little nuggets of quotation in everything lol
@@CatharsisYT Heathcliff's story is based on Wuthering Heights, if you have happened to be forced through that in high school in the US
Hence Heath and Cathy (Catherine).
All 12 major LC characters are based off classic works of literature from various cultures, some more loosely, some more literally, this is more on the literal end for sure
@@CatharsisYT very late, but I wholeheartedly agree. I think one of the best parts of Mili PM songs are just the storytelling via music, both lyrical and musical. I's so good that both people with and without context can understand and get to the same conclusion that the song wants to tell. Their lyrics have both literal accuracy and metaphorical depth.
Anyways, if it counts for anything, not that it has to, I'm pretty sure that all the "haha you think the lyrics are only metaphorical?" comments are just PM fans coping with the horrors of Limbus storytelling. Your guesses and analysis were so accurate you essentially just described the plot of the whole Canto. Not that that makes the comments any less annoying to read, but yeah.
Anyways, I like your analysis. It's in depth, spot on, and I too wish that the lyrics were only metaphorical (
As a quickish way of explaining the story: its about 2 people blaming themselves for the suffering of the other
Thats why they both say the same things.
Now, for a more indepth explanation (Spoilers below)
In limbus company, paralel universes are a thing more or less.
And in every single world pretty much, these two always end poorly. Neither gathers up the courage to confess to the other, and eventually one of them dies, leading the other to blame themselves. It goes to the point where two of those alternative versions (one of each part of this couple) decides to travel from world to world killing their paralel selves, wanting to "delete" every single instance of themselves to prevent the other from suffering. The "Round and round we go" reffers to how this is something that has repeated in every single world, and how, in their eyes, it will repeat as long as they remain.
There are two more things worth mentioning. One, ingame the voices are separate until the last phase of a bossfight, showing how incomplete they are without the other. And two (and last), towards the end of the song, the lyrics change from essentially saying "I must be the reason you suffered and I wish you a life without me" to "Losing you hurt me so much that I am lying to myself when I say that you would be better off without me"
To talk about the themes of the story without spoiling the story itself:
The story is about a relationship falling apart because of miscommunication, but also major themes of self-loathing. The two lovers each think that they're the cause of the other's misery (hence 'I must be the reason why'). Classism is also a theme, with one of them thinking that he's naturally "a witless brigand, a miserable wretch, a savage beast" and that will never change despite how much he tries. The self-loathing also gives you a darker interpretation for the 'Delete' portion.
i really liked how this song was themed around heathcliff and #####
You mean #########?
@@TChunky you mean dante? 💀
who?
@@shenshiya9474 if it joke nice buy if it isn't it's the ■■■■■ not dante play depression simulator chapter 6 to learn more
@@user-lt5td3vg8v nah its just a joke cause the guy only had five # letter dante instead of 8 #
This song is even better in game. When you fight Erlking the deeper voice is the one singing, but when you switch phases to [ ] fight the lyrics are instead sung by the lighter voice. It was glorious
This is the sound of Peak also I'd recommend Distorted Heathcliff from Limbus Company its also an experience 🧐
Me putting dark souls boss music and eletronic music in a blender:
i love ████████ shes my favorite character so far
Who?
Who the hell is Rem?
Best design
Yeah the relationship between Heathcliff and &$!#€ is one of my favorite in this game.🎉
■■■■■ is so good
THE FAULT LIES WITH US
Finally i can agree with Ahab about something
Wait no actually, the fault lies on me, singular
Wrong Canto buddy
This kind of self-duet singing Mili also did in Ga1ahad and Scientific Witchery, one of their much older original songs, you should check it out
GA1AHAD AND SCIENTIFIC WITCHERY MENTIONED
The song is amazing and the analysis was quite great as well! Without any spoilers, it is about a love story that got denied due to poor communication and jealousy, which eventually leads to a lot of sadness, obsession, anger and self destruction from both sides. It is based on the book Wuthering Heights, so it's pretty depressing overall.
One part that is missed from just the short video is that initially the song is only from the perspective of the guy and you are lead to believe that he is the only one who went through some really insane self destructive behaviour - but the song still feels incomplete at this stage and it plays earlier than you would expect in the story. So in the finale, the song is played from both perspectives as the fight phases change and eventually it leads to the duet and the realization that they were very similar.
It was a good guess, trully
But you failed to get one crucial detail
"I must be the reason why"
"You must tell me all this lies"
"Wishing you a better life"
"I still believe in this lie"
"That you'll live a better life"
*"Without ME by YOUR side"*
They are not really in disagreement with each other, but with themselves
They chase each other, yes, but do so trying to get themselves removed from the other's lives....
You can only be happy without me, I am the cause of your suffering
But at the same time thay can't really be apart from one another because they love each other
Is the most toxic Romeo & Juliet relationship you'll ever find, and its called Wuthering Heights
Check the book if you haven't
And keep in mind, almost everyone is an unreliable narrator there
So here’s the story explained poorly, the words worst love triangle where no one has the balls to say what they’re thinking so they start killing themselves and stealing from a guy crying about a violin
Whose the third one
@@veryyes1607lipton?tea???
@@veryyes1607 Me (I’m that cool)
@@veryyes1607 hindley
@@monikaisdonewiththeinterne2039 right, it kinda didn’t feel that way to me since it wasn’t a question of who Catherine would love, the conflict was purely about whether Cathy and heath could talk to each other or not.
your read on the situation is surprisingly really spot on!! as mentioned, it's about two lovers who kept misunderstanding one another but refusing to just come out and say what they mean, leading to a drastic response on both parts that is only understood to be a misunderstanding when it's too late to go back. I really love the presentation in game, because only one set of vocals plays against the respective boss, with the bosses and the vocals switching as the fight progresses, so there's a constant sense of being incomplete with the call and response in the song being a call with no response. it's only in the final boss phase, with the last verse of the song included, that both voices play together :')
“A Wei with words” Thanks for the pun, I’ll be taking it now
This song is probably my favorite way of incorporating a boss theme into the battle. During the fight you switch between fighting two bosses and each boss uses one of the sets of vocals until it eventually becomes a duet for the final phase.
You were remarkably spot on with it being about a breakdown of communication, the crux of the issue is that the two characters could never be honest with each other about their feelings to the very end.
So now they both believe themselves to be responsible for all the misery and despair the other experienced, and think the other would be better off without them in their life.
Also, the Delete is not metaphorical, they both want to actually delete every version of themselves from every parallel world, because in both of their eyes, the other can only be happy if they do not exist to cause them misery.
This has instantly become my favourite Limbus Company Mili song, both for the song itself and for how perfectly it tells this story, because is an earlier fight you hear this same song except it's only the deeper (Male) lines as you only fight one of them, but in this version you repeatedly switch between fighting both during the fight which is when the song changes between the deeper (Male) and higher (Female) versions depending on which phase you're in and who you're fighting until the very end when both sing at the same time. Through Patches of Violet is a genuine masterpiece of storytelling.
⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️? What do you mean?
very based for not waiting even though the youtube compression hurts my soul--i was anxious to get someone's thoughts on it as much as i am to hear a solid copy of it
The song starts with the high and low voices seperate in all but the last phase really emphasizing the "aloneness" each character experiences without eachother. at the last phase they come back together at the end as almost an understanding between the two parties being found.
The song also seems to be very "bach fughe like" and additionally this limbus company cantos basis is on an old book called "wuthering heights" which was published in the late 19th century. really cool piece!
Note: Made this before your analysis so I may be repeating some of the things you said.
Canto 6 Spoilers below!
I wanna say, the way they present this in the canto is interesting. Usually, you go into a "dungeon" and in the final fight the song starts to build up (as in more lyrics starts to appear after some time.) But in this Canto, there is no dungeon. It starts playing when you fight Erlking Heathcliff. The moment you first hear it, you can tell it feels _incomplete_ until you start to fight at the last node. The fight against him and Every Catherine included both "male" and "female" side, completing each other.
The moment you break Oldcliiff's first threshold, get the cutscene, and enter the Every Cathy phase, her side of the duet taking over the song? Now THAT was the Mili Peak Moment of the Canto. The moment everything about the lyrics truly click in your head.
And that's just the fantastic gameplay-music combo Limbus does time and again 🔥
Just so you know the official release came out!!
ROUND AND ROUND WE GOOO
HOLDING ONTO PAIN
DRIVEN BY OUR EGOOOOOS
Love this song so much. A duet of two lovers who will never find each other. They could never be honest with each other, and so when one finally left, they both wished for each other, but could never meet again. They always want to be together, but can never agree, as you said.
Also, spoilers.
Limbus includes a concept called identities, alternate versions of characters that a player can use to help in a fight. The song has to do with not only the lovers themselves, but their two alternate selves, each wishing to kill every version of themselves to save the other, yet wanting to love the other as well. Their boss fight has them on two different realities, they can hear each other, but will never be able to meet, never be able to agree.
They will only ever see eachother, through patches of violet.
With playing through 6-48 when it first came out, compared to listening to the song now, it's two different emotions. You seemed to have a great grasp on what the song is portraying, but it hits on a whole another level when playing through the game itself with the music evolving, switching around throughout the fight. Within context, the song does its job the best.
And as for the "Delete" segment, that's not all that metaphorical...
there's actually a person doing the mix male and female version sing it one by one and at both at same time
But it's gonna be become long loop version like in game, but still good one when you can hear male and female sing it like it's from their own pov
Ingame you hear both vocal tracks to the song separately before hearing them together
"Among the tragedies of the mixed world of possibilities of two men and women who believe that their loved ones will be happy only when each other disappears, a world of only one possibility with a small hope of getting to know each other's hearts in it"
It's duet because representing two people in the song
We hating ourselves with this one 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯
I certainly AM wondering what the visual for the Mili post will be...
Peak Mili analysis just dropped.
“I couldn’t wait”
Very valid, man… I couldn’t wait either! My favourite Mili song now!
My favourite part is the “I must be the reason why, you’ve given up your smiles, and the hope inside your eyes get stolen!” The entire segment is AMAZING.
People always want the big Mili boss fight songs to be reacted to, but a lot of Studio EIM's work for the regular battle themes are also very interesting. They don't have lyrics to convey themeing, but they manage to do so with instrumentation and lietmotif, and a lot of them are absolute bangers. Some of my favorites are Canto II B1 and C1, Canto III C1, Canto IV B1 and E1, Canto V F1, and Canto VI B1- Though really, Studio EIM has shown incredible range and basically all of the regular fight music from Limbus Company is incredible and worth a listen.
You know, for someone who hasn't actually played the game or seen what happens your analysis and guesses continue to be on point, that's genuinely impressive (and the reason these reaction videos are the ones I look forward the most)
Yes, we couldn't wait.
Clearing all Cathy..
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As others have already mentioned, the story is about 2 lovers who think themselves responsible for each others miseries. One point I want to add is that it was implied alot that due to poor communication, the 2 lovers head on 2 parallel paths rather than their fate being intertwined. This is represented in the song when they sing in parallel of course and is a great representation of how love is sometimes like.
Wanting the best for one another but being afraid of stating ones true feelings in fear of rejection, causing each other to self sacrifice in the name of love even if it was never wanted by the other person.
They never got to actually become lovers. That's how bad the communication was.
With Mili songs its very difficylt to know what to take as metaphor and what to take as literal
Not only does the two parts play separately for most the fight (only coming together for the end), but the length of the fight means you hear it loop the first section a fair bit, “round and round we go”
Also, both halves of the relationship/boss fight is an alternative version of a character from here looking to kill every iteration of themselves so the other won’t be miserable. Those two never get to be on screen together or hear each other. Love drove them apart, and led them to believe the other was better off without them. Your Heathcliff can mend the distance, but not soon enough to reach a happy ending
A youtube channel named NotherWael made a remix for this song with the in game scenes and phases. Even if you don't play the game, it will give you better idea of what's happening while the song is playing. You don't need to make it a content but if I really recommend to check that remix out by yourself, it will be enjoyable
I really like the "male" version, aka when mili sings low.
It sounds really cool.
In the game and book the story between Heathcliff and [ ] was really sad
Always remember to clear all Cathy from time to time to prevent your device from slowing down considerably
Spoiler without actually spoiling: Clear all [][][][][]
your wink-wink nudge-nudge not-spoilers are not nearly as clever as you think they are. It's just spoilers :(
that ain't chief
Yeah, without knowing the story, you guess pretty much everything in the game in your analysis. Make me admire Mili for being able to tell a story through a song that can make a person without knowing the story guesses correctly, and your skills to listen to the song and analyze it. Keep up the good work!
you should listen to the 7 min version cause it plays how the music was played in game
I mean thing about pre official songs is that the in game version is mixed differently than official version, like some people prefer in game or mix versions of Compass to official :D this one I don't know if I like them starting song with duet when it starts in game with them seperately, but I wouldn't know how official would do it
It's actually incredibile how close you were to guessing pretty much the story behind the Song
To boil it down ti the simplest terms, the story Is a Classic tragedy, with two star crossed lovers that end badly becouse of their own characters flaws, in this case, impulsiveness and lnability to communicate their feelings
They end up thinking that the other doesn't love them, and they end up blaming themselves for all of the pain the other goes through
One of them decides to leave, change and inprove and come back as a Better Person worthy of love
(The First chorus about how each of them says "i must be" they assume, not ask)
The other takes It as abbandonment, and decides to end their own Life
(Deleates)
The First comes back too late to save the second, and in their last moments they realize that they unconditionally loved each other all the time, but it's too late
(The second chorus with "i might be the reason why" they finally stop assuming and ask the questione)
So an interesting thing in the game, the two voices are played individually until the final phase
This mix, I was curious which he'd use, I like some of the other mixes more especially the ones that have the "male" vocals and the female vocals switching off, especially since that's closer to what they do in game. However, this probably pretty close to the version that mili will release.
PEAK IS BACK
Great analysis as always. I would very much like for you to react to "Go together" from Reverse 1999, if possible.
its the duet version the game version differentiates the voices through the phases of the boss duet one comes at the last phase
great interpretation
Hey Carthasis, had you thought about giving Bulbel by mili a try? It's pretty good song in my opinion, if so I'd love to see your reaction video bout it one day
Yes!, and maybe check out Ender Lilies OST to, because they are made and if im not wrong 100% by Mili. My recommendations if you decided to check it out is.
Bloom - Outro, Bible - Intro, Accolade - Outro, and Bloom - Intro.
A bit unfortunate that you chose the 3 mins ver, the whole song is actually over 7 minutes long. The one you used unfortunately had the "round and round we go" part order mixed up with the climax one. It's supposed to go with cassie solo it with the deep vocal version then the high one then back to the deep one with some lyrics changed and also back to the high one with also the lyrics changed slightly. Then it supposed to play the duet you heard from this one.
With the Lyrics on screen I can propably guess the video used, but in general nice analysis
I had them pulled up in a second window 🗿
Tbh I tends to like these that aren't official cause they're mixed with the game in mind rather than as an independent mv
I recommend listening a heathcliff the heartbroken, also from limbus
I'm surprised we got this song this early. Oh well. Clear all [ ]
Problem with this song (even probably in official release): That it's not an actual complete experience.
I think it goes: 1 voice sing one part (male-ish version of Mili voice), then another voice sing different part (her normal/female voice), then they finally sing in duet full version (version which you listened to).
Found original script (and ye, that version is 13 minutes) :
"Follows how the song plays in-game: both (intro), male, female, instrumental, male, female, instrumental, female, both."
To talk about its story and my thoughts on it...
This story hits hard, because it is mainly talking about communication, which is not done right nowadays. There are so many conflicts in the world that happens because groups refuse to talk, even when all they want is actually not so different.
Gender issuses are one of such. We all want harrashment to go away and everyone to get decent treatment.. but fight over it for rather selfish reasons.
SPOILAR ALART!
Story mainly follows that of [Wuthering heights] novel.
Heathcliff was abused adopted child in a rich family. Father is decent, but son Hindly is horrible, falls in love with daughter Catherine, despite she cares for Heath, but he eavesdrop her talking about marring another rich guy who also harrassed Heath.
Heath runs away instead of confronting her, vowing only to return sucessful.
But when he return, she is dead. And it is partially on himslef as she missed him very much, she suffered greatly.
(There is some complecated story on it but ill pass on that)
He meets another Heathcliff from a parrallel world, claiming he vowed to kill everyone who made her misserable and die... and it was himself who had a hand in killing her in the end. He would kill himself in every world for revenge of every Cathy killed.
Plot goes on,
...and Heath realize in the end that Cathy cared and loved him from the beginning and if he confronted Cathy, things wouldve been different.
Later, he finds out Cathy saw the samething. Heathcliff in every world was suffering because of her, and couldnt leave nor comeback to the manor which pained him greatly, as she was still binding him.
So Cathy from parrallel world also wanted to kill herself so she could free him.
(She kills herself so she could free him, and he never forgives himself for her death.)
So she tries to let Cathy2 come over to her world. But original Cathy1 is trapped in the manor as a spirit.
Company fights off both Heath2 and Cathy2 in different dimentions. While Heath1 tries to reach out to Cathy1 and meets. She realize to stop both beings from other worlds is to erase herself. Thus, Clear(Delete) All Cathy (Cashe) data using players device.
(In Korean, both cathy and cashe is written 캐시 (actually 캐시 and 캐쉬)
In the end, both Heath2 and Cathy2 meet in the same dimentions. Eventhough they sought each other in vain, they end up hurting one another.
Heath1 gets a peak at all parralel worlds of himself and Cathy during deletion. He sees all the tradegy, but see a glimer of hope, as one of them picture 2 graves beside the manor, that of himself and Cathy, and 2 young adults who looks just like Heath and Cathy.
Fight ends and he vows to bring her back.
I really left the details out, but it might make more sense when you know the whole story.
6:42 you could say that
My guy, I wish the delete part was metaphorical. XD
Guys, I'm a little bit confused. He keeps saying it's a duet but I'm only hearing one voice.
This comment almost got me, but i read the story synopsis 💀
If only the “delete” part was metaphorical. If only he still had his [ ] with him.
fishmael :)
Delete is literal here
6:32 REMEMBER [ ]
There's a reason why it's called "Clear all Cathy"
this song really makes me want to Clear all my ■■■■■s
This is basically Gone Angels 2.0 u can't change my mind
Bathtub Mermaid by Mili would be cool! The song has.. typical Mili dark lyrics.
'delete is metaphorical'
[censored]? huh? whos that? what are you talking about? doesnt only the wolf live here?
The fault lies within us...
The lyrics don’t repeat at the end, they are slightly different and change the message from before
Great video as always though!
this song does really fit heathcliff and *********
While this one is really good, I kinda wish he could have experienced the split parts of the songs, because it makes the real duet portion so much more powerful.
Basically, minus the beginning portion and the end portion, the higher and lower voices are split into their own sections. Splicing them together like this, as well down as it was, defeats some of the themeing established within the actual battle(s) themselves.
Support the official release of course, but if you want to get more of a feel of what I mean, even just listening to it in your own time, check out BlueTune's (In-Game ver. mix).
Ah this version, I wonder when will chair give their remix
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Korsica. That 'delete' thing...WAS *NOT AN EXPRESSION!*
When the delete button actually delete.
You.. you really should play this game.
Wow, my favorite character is *****
My fellow Pmoon music enjoyer, you must simply listen to chapter 6 battle music, the bosses are the most metal darkest dungeon I've ever listened
You must "clear" all Cathy...
How did you manage to get the theme of communication and misunderstanding so easily without knowing the game's story beats? I know Mili packs a lot of reference to the story's events but damn
I'm an ✨empath✨ 🤡
I would recommend you to read the game story if playing is not an option for you. The story is hella fire. And what you believe to metaphorical might not be. Experiencing the ingame story with the song is the ultimate way to enjoy Mili song.
Shame im ways away
Very close, but as you said the portrayal matters. All I can say is despite both sides sounding very similar intentwise, until the very end, it stays an incomplete duet.
The whole chapter had a lot of good music due to basically being a boss rush.
I wonder who's the girl with heathcliff there
no clue she might be an oc
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If I remember correctly, you have reacted to world.execute(me), I wanted to suggest you also listen to the key ingredient version of that song, the arrangement is pretty clever and very enjoyable.
Listen to ready to die by Banana shooter :)
Its just not the same without the storm SFX (like compass hearbeat) and individual solo parts...