Is the Media Altering Our Perception of Crime? | Spiraling
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Pretty much anywhere you look these days, there's going to be some sort of story about crime. Whether it's about the climbing murder rate on the news, a cop show on TV, or a true crime podcast, humans are intrigued by these gruesome stories.
VICE Producer Zeke Spector spirals down the rabbit hole to investigate his own fascination with crime while exploring what communities and the media industry can do to reduce the crime rate.
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“Cultures define themselves by the stories they tell, if our stories are about violence all the time we are defining ourselves by violence.” Well said.
Best quotes and it went over everyones head!
The problem is it's a group who are disconnected from the communities that get to tell the stories
@@teebone2157 I'd argue your point is a byproduct of most media being owned by a few companies
What an idiot statement.
I guess if we ignore the issues, they'll go away.
Reminds me of the film Nightcrawler from a few years ago. Dark stuff that kinda highlights our cultural obsession with vicariously experiencing the misfortune and suffering of our fellow humans.
Came here to post this
That's his alter ego.
There was a journalist in south america somewhere a couple years ago who killed people just to be the first on the scene to report on it.
@@99mm66 ain’t no way💀
Thought the same. Cheers, man 🍻
I’ve lived in NYC for 15 years. I’ve seen a noticeable change in the past 2 years or so. People are so much more bold now. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve seen men just pull their thing out and start peeing in the middle of a sidewalk. Homeless people cuss you out if you don’t give them anything. I saw an Asian woman get punched in the face out of nowhere.
It was way worst in the late 80's early 90's
@@teratophile9896 I have no doubt. But I think we can all agree that’s not where we want to be headed.
The species has come full circle. Return to nature, pee on the street.
@@teratophile9896 Yeah, that makes it better huh?
Stupid rationalization
The pandemic has resulted in more poverty. Poverty leads to more crime
As a first responder, we HATE these apps. Scene Chasers are what we call them, and we have had it result in secondary accidents. I work EMS and when they show up to scenes, they often get way too close and cause hazards on our scene. Also it makes my patientrs far more anxious.
As a former firefighter, I’ve been there and know exactly what you mean. The only thing I hope is that these scene chasers report the truth and not twist the narrative to fit the liberal agenda.
It's not them doing it it's whoever you sell too
Once you stop following chaos, life is more peaceful.
It's called putting your head in the sand.
@@derrickclark5364 i could only last few weeks
Ignoring something doesn't make it go away.
Being a hermit with unlimited learning and the company of animals is better.
Get off social media entirely , never ever turn on cable tv in any way , and you will be shocked that things are actually great.
Dude nightcrawler kinda nailed it with this lifestyle - I fucking love that movie 🍿
I always want to drive around with a camera but I have gotten old and angry behind the wheel. I might end up being the one yelling at other drivers and being recorded xD "LEARN TO DRIVE YOU COW" etc wish cameras were cheaper 10 years ago ):
Challenger and all
That’s what I was thinking!
Hell yeah I was just watching it right now and this pop up in my recommendation what a coincidence
It's really exposed issues we've had for centuries. People act like it's something new but its not. Social media and video just allows us to globally see it.
You are correct! People keep saying how horrible the world is today, but damn you go back a century ago and it was a hell of a lot worse in my opinion
At the same time however crime had been moving down the past 30 years , until the past two years when it’s exploded . I don’t know why people actively try to silence the numbers. What happened to , “follow the science “ ?
@@jaydee975 The world IS horrible. Humans are an absolutely irredeemable species.
Take homelessness in the U.S. - since it's been documented around industrialization it's only grown.
Remember: the CHOICE (personal responsibility, right??) to be brought into existence was made for all humans. With that choice that I, we, did not make come corresponding needs we cannot opt out of by simply exercising a subsequent choice to do so: thirst, hunger, exposure. These experiences happen regardless of what kind of person we are.
At the very least - due to being forced to be in this life - we should WITHOUT condition provided clean water, healthy food AND BASIC SHELTER (to limit exposure to elements and thus illness and death) to all humans brought here through no act of their own.
It would be one thing if there were a lack of materials that made it impossible to build enough shelters for bodies
But thats not the case. U.S. homeless problem grows every single year it's been documented, on average across the nation.
Yet there are empty apartments, hotels, entire vacant communities... so the actual physical need is not only there but abundant; the problem is the subject the abstract value we've put on wealth accumulation, thereby DIScouraging humans who have an excess of material from making personal sacrifices to get these physical bodies into these physical shelters.
That would require banks, real estate conglomerates and all their wealthy administration to say "ya know, we want to SOLVE this problem, maybe we DON'T need to sit on all this empty housing waiting for money to be exchanged, maybe we will do the right thing for once."
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@@ci6516maybe soft on crime doesnt make sense
My friend works at a very boring news station in Florida where no crime happens and they report everything. Maintenance one took a pump from a fountain at a church and they reported it stolen and started a gofund me page. It made the news. The guy came back with the working pump the next day...
The crap I read on Ring's Neighborhood crime alerts. One person posted a doorbell video of the mailman delivering at their mailbox. They wrote that the mailman looked suspicious. The other commenters encouraged them by urging them to call the cops just to be safe. A mailman in uniform delivering your mail...lol
That’s just an idiot who’s bored living in the suburbs and wants to create paranoia
It’s literally ridiculous on the app, it kind of Gives you a perspective of how many people live in irrational fear.
two people dressed up as UPS just hog tied an entire family and robbed them on Christmas so it's not out of nowhere.
@@elementaesthetique 🙄
Lmao
the media is altering our perception of everything wtf😂
Exactly!! and vice is also part of that.
@@Beatrizzzle when all the sheep fall victim to the metaverse and become a robot maybe theyll finally understand that everything on this earth is phony
@@DaMinecraft2 what do you mean by "metaverse"
Facts man that’s why important to do your own research
I dunno man if you watchin nat geo docs on beavers I feel like its pretty unaltering
"This is the vice we want. Back to its roots"
-comment on every vice video ever made
Vice shills
True, npc,s.
Idk who this Vice guy is but he sure as hell seems to be breathing some real life back into Vice.
I'm grateful, keep it up man.
We hear more about crime than literally any generation ever. We have the internet and mass media television.
So we get a massive false perspective in crime rates. It could be the most peaceful year in history but we'll hear every single crime incident, rest assured.
They’re trying to make us think that criminals are victims of the justice system. That’s what’s happening
@@IdiotBoxProductionsTV facts
@@IdiotBoxProductionsTV They usually are when it comes to drug crimes but if it's violent they should definitely be locked up
@@IdiotBoxProductionsTV tell that to the innocent people recently exonerated from death row
I've yet to hear much about the numbers, much less names of all the blacks that are killed every week on the streets of Chicago.
Very interesting take on this topic. I love how Vice still goes out and talks to real people. This gives you a very different take away about crime
It's not who you talk to it's who makes the edit.
@@TheJudgeofLevelstm Vice has been known to selectively edit interviews in the past.
@Chishio Chishio I watch him too, people have limited agency, people just don't know how long their chains are.
@@tdestroyer4780 EVERY media production has to selectively edit their content. Your intent to cast doubt on the journalistic integrity of Vice is pretty clear. We should question everything and everyone anyway.
@@djkobafemi If you ain't woke, vice will edit you out. That's the difference. They're violent radicals. I'll prove it, just disagree with them.
So thankful to hear the police chief speaking in a solution driven, community focused mindset
That was a breath of fresh air. Cops/rightwing nuts need to stop ignoring the problem and the only argument they make is that we want to abolish the police. Defund does not mean abolish…
damn that police officer sounded very informed and willing to meet the causes of crimes halfway, with addressing the root causes of them, glad to see it.
Root causes of crime are parents and lack there of . Police and government will never fix a lack of morals . In the rush to get rid of the church , people lost all meaning of morals . People think there’s no down side to teaching kids to sing song like WAP and glamorizing violence
@@ci6516 you hit the nail on the head. I’m not religious but can’t deny Christianity, Sikhism and even Islam prompt the family unit. And regardless of religion a proper family unit has advantages over single folk in every situation. People can make anything work but it’s easier as a family.
@@ci6516 This issue goes beyond family, it's a community issue. Churches provide community, and extended, chosen family (the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb). You don't need churches for community just like you don't need biological relation for family.
Not only are we talking about systemic issues caused by poverty, which is the direct result of an authoritarian form of capitalism and wealth disparity, we're talking about how people are made to spend so much time working that they don't have time to build community.
We live in a society of unjust hierarchy, plain and simple. Most crime exists at the intersection of "have" and "have not," while there is plenty for everyone, but it isn't distributed fairly, just because some big corporation wants to make money for shareholders and executives while not paying their basic workers a livable wage. Where is justice in this society if rich people can get away with diddling children with a slap on the wrist while another person can be locked up for decades because they were selling a plant that's less harmful than alcohol?
These problems are bigger than just "eroded morals" on the ground level, these are problems caused by the fact that there is a top-down system of rule imposed on people that is amoral to the core because it's built around the exploitation of resources, and especially the exploitation of people's labor as a resource, rather than recognizing that it is the work of all people that makes a society function in the first place. All human accomplishment is built on all previous human accomplishment, and should thusly be owned collectively, not privately.
How can we collectively cooperate to build the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth if we surrender our rights to a central human authority, rather than empowering one another with the power of self-determination and self-governance?
@@ci6516 I'd say the incredible disparity in distribution of wealth is a big factor. IE, poverty. People are in survival mode and when humans are in survival mode, morals become very murky. What would lengths would you go to feed and cloth yourself and your family?
@@emveetu3672 poverty is not a factor, the Amish community don't even have TV's.
Now what?
I’m telling you… if anyone can handle this situation is Detroit Urban Survivalist Training guy
💯
Vice acting like they aren't part of this problem. They stopped doing real journalism a long time ago.
Then leave.
@Eugene 714 leave? Lol Way to be part of the problem.
And what do you think is real news?
Let me guess, Fox News,Ben Shapiro,Alex Jones etc?
Facts!
The vice hasn't done real journalism for a while crowd some how seems to always stick around to leave the same comment for almost half a decade, its kinda sad to be honest 😂
Crime is going to be hard to stop when people don't want to have uncomfortable conversations.
It’s also hard to stop when people are more concerned with punishment and vengeance than they are with prevention, or rehabilitation.
I saw a poll about crime and it asked peoples general perception whether they were worried about increasing crime 90% of Americans said yes. When they asked about whether those people felt they worried about crime in their own neighborhoods 84% of Americans said they weren't concerned about crime in their own neighborhoods. This goes to show just how distorted our view on crime really is. Often times we're seeing crime from all across the Nation.
Exactly
I bet it was fox news
Just type in Chicago shooting. Nearly every video has a neighbor who says they are moving as soon as the opportunity rise.
Post a link of the poll
I saw a same poll about racism.
@@claudej.montgomery9421 No you type in Florida
What if we just like...
stop letting the media and the wealthy ruling class divide us on race? Let me preface this by saying racism is a huge issue on a systemic level that does in fact need to be addressed. Although, it is framed by politicians in a way to divide us. Let's progress forward as a society. After taking the time to recognize any privilege you may have and the struggles others may face, we should see one another on the basis of CLASS. 99% of us WORK for a living and are therefore working class. We all struggle to varying degrees to make it to work and get the bills paid. We all have the same CLASS INTERESTS when it comes to politics. Policies that help your underpaid and overworked service industry jobs such as fast food inherently benefit every working class individual from teachers, to nurses, your mechanics, delivery drivers, etc. Being working class is our common ground and our enemies are those holding the power and currently wrecking our country. They are the billionaire class, the owners of big business that small businesses can no longer compete against and their large multinational corporations that many of us call our employers that dictate so many aspects of our lives while simultaneously dodging taxes, buying the government through lobbying, and feeding off government subsidies. Those WITH the power to change this country ARE the ones wrecking this country. Don't let the media and political parties use their typical scapegoats. Stop blaming racial groups, immigrants, and the poor who have the least amount of power to effect change due to systemic racism and socioeconomic status and start blaming those sitting at the throne that WE built. Punch up, not down. Ya feel me?!
Working class solidarity above all else!
PS I'd like my labor value back ASAP
Thank you.
We are actually living in the safest time in human history. Just the media makes it look like we aren't.
rest assured, they have our safety in mind and want the best for us! the government will keep us safe and warm and protected from the big bad world out there!
Depends on what state you live in. Arizona has so many armed people I'd be terrified to commit a crime.
@@FUBARguy107 I live in Australia so we don't all carry guns like hand bags. Unfortunately it's the 24/7 news cycle that has caused your issues and the history of your country. It's a damn shame that you all value guns over lives.
@Veteran of the Pyschic Wars ...and? How many people you know have died of Covid? Majority of my family are vaccinated, we live in Australia so you know, we have been looked after by our state government and in 2 years, only 10 people have passed because of good policies, free medical care, social distancing, lock downs when required, masks. Everyone in the community trying to do the right thing by each other, but hey, keep on thinking "you are in on a big secret". See how well that treats you when you are in hospital, on a vent and nothing they do can help. Maybe ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine might help? Joe Rogan perhaps? Herbal teas or essential oils perhaps? I trust in science not conspiracy theories.
@Veteran of the Pyschic Wars it will make my day.
Vice is just a different way of journalism. Great job guys...
Media is extremely selective of what they report in depending on the narrative of whoever pays them.
Most local news isn't though they typically just report what's going on in your area.
"Rolled through a stop light. Crime!" 🤣
I would like the news to be like it used to be.. they reported the news they NEVER GAVE THEIR OPINIONS!!!
Don't watch CNN or fox news. I mostly get my news from watching the video segments on CZcams since Im normally working or sleeping when the local news plays on free tv.
Here's my take on the obsession with crime. Most of the obsession is because so many people want to point the finger an place blame somewhere. Whether it's news media and ratings or the whistleblowers. Which isn't wrong, someone needs to be held accountable. At the same time, if the same people looking for someone to blame would spend half as much time looking for a solution that they can actively be a part of, instead of blaming others and hoping they do something about it, some change might actually begin to take place. The group of people in Cleveland is a great example. Some may say it's bad that they have automatic weapons and are out patrolling the streets with them. The people complaining are those in their gated communities with police patroling regularly. Put the people complaining in the neighborhoods that cizitens have to take it upon themselves to patrol the streets and protect their neighborhoods and I guarantee they change their tune about how the streets are being protected. They sure as hell aren't going to be the ones out there doing it.
Humans forced to use stories that include crime, use them as if theyre not fiction stories do so because theyre forced to.
The past two years, crime has been sky high in my area (upper middle class) Gun violence almost daily, lots of robberies, and hoards of dirt bikes and 4 wheelers ripping through sidewalks and taking over streets. It’s wild
Mind sharing your ‘area’ in a 5 miles vicinity? Just to cross reference your perception? If not, I understand. Incidentally, living in an “upper middle class” doesn’t shield you from crime 🙂
Philly?
Im sure it’s a place ran by democrats
Come to the street of Chicago and tell this to the families of the 800+ murder victims see what they say.
12 shooting victims daily, that's rounding down.
Lets see how "not afraid" he is then lol. TBH alot of this is just people being nosey
They're only looking to alter the perception of specific crimes.
Very true or about everything that's happened since 2020 in EVERY SINGLE TOPIC
They shouldn’t make violet crimes a big deal? Murders and robberies should be ignored or looked at as normal?
@@JerseyMike6O9 yeah, they blame the media, the police and whites in general, but will never take a good hard look in the f mirror.
@Daddy Or mass shootings and to categorize every incident possible as a mass shooting.
Vice, keep up with your root documentary style!
Loved this, learned a lot.
11:35 I learned that these people will never take responsibility for their own actions and behavior, and will continue to blame whites for their own actions for another 100 years to come.
@@CZcams_Enjoyerlol dude just stop. Just stop. There are 2multiple sides of the story. There are extremists on every side
@@CZcams_Enjoyerlol exactly!!
I absolutely love the vibe/energy of those New Era guys. Renews my faith in people.
The KKK vibe? Running around armed while chanting black power! What could go wrong?
@@DickCheneyXX I dont see them burning homes and killing ppl like the kkk. Stupid comparison
@@DickCheneyXX They are laughing with a whitew journalist and trying to prevent crime in their neighbourhood from people they know have just gone down the wrong path and you are comparing them to the KKK. What a ahistorical reactionary take. Research the Black power movement and the KKK and explain how they are even comparable?
@@ye23. Give them time. What's stupid is not comparing them both at their inception instead of coming up with a silly bad faith way to dismiss the comparison.
@@uwaifoeenna I can point to numerous video evidence of KKK members doing the same while casually preaching white supremacy, not all of them are frothing at the mouth... The KKK just a bunch of misguided people and not some mental projection of what you imagine they are, same for them.
Americans systemically overrate the chance of being killed or injured by a crime and underrate the chance of being killed or injured by a car, which is the leading killer of young people in the US. Ironically the fear of crime caused the car-centric suburbanization of our cities which has only increased the death toll
Cogent observation. I think people gravitate towards emotional explanations and solutions, "crime is increasing due to moral decay, we must righteously punish those evildoers!" Is palatable, but a systemic analysis is not. Likewise the fear of being violently assaulted is visceral, but burning in a car wreck because you are looking at your phone is inconceivable, "that wouldn't happen to me, Im responsible!"
@@teflon_donatello dude , the difference is you are in control of your car . If you get into a wreck , it’s your fault . If your child gets shot in your home watching tv because gang members are fighting , that’s not your fault . It’s much different. I don’t get how this isn’t clear to you. A killing and a death are not the same.
@@teflon_donatello a systemic analysis shows the root cause to be lack of education and bad parenting . It’s that easy. No amount of jobs and charity will fix bad schools and bad parents . Half of 0blkamerikka is illiterate, yeah you read that right . Half of 0blkad_ults can’t properly read or write . If you want to fix crime , start at the true source . People need to stop blaming police and government (except for bad schools)
And in places like Chicago , where they say all the right things and preach how evil republicans are , minorityschoolsw are in horrid condition.
I had to code words to make it through CZcams filter
@@ci6516 damn right out the gate. If you "get in a wreck" that can be because someone else slammed into your car. You can be in complete control and it not be your fault. What would be your fault is entering the road. It is simply true that using cars and roads makes it more likely you will be killed in a car accident. So it is partly your fault because not driving a car would decrease your risk to near zero. Ez
@@ci6516 Im not going to engage with the drivel in the second comment because you seemed to miss the point. OPs comment is not an equivocation, rather an observation and summary of an analysis. More people die from cars rather than gun violence (edit: homicide) and that is exacerbated by suburban lifestyles and proliferation of cars. It's just something to think about.
I remember a couple weeks ago some guy was taking pictures of his own house and sent it to a company who planned to build him a new porch. Anyways someone reported him to the police cause they thought he was a thief trying to case in a house or something 🤦🏼♂️
Kid I work with was saying goodbye to his freinds in the driveway, finished his beer out there and his neighbors called the cops saying a junkie was casing the house.... its the house he's lived in for 24 years.
And how does that information help anyone?
Cool story bro. Sounds like a case of neighbors looking out for one another even if they happened to be wrong in this situation.
@@tressietes04 no it does not mr cool story smith
@@tressietes04 its not neighbors looking out for each other. It's suburban retirees who have nothing better to do and are looking for the next thrill
It's definitely altering our perception of who is committing most of it.
I disagree. I think it's obvious who is committing most of it. Come on now...
@@pocketlinttreasures33 It's only obvious if you actually look at the stats and are intellectually honest enough to accept the truth.
I’m all fairness. Raccoons can be very dangerous. Try cornering a raccoon and see what happens. They’re vicious
Corner it with you red ryder bb gun no issue there
As a NYer , Idk if crime rates are legitimately up, but if you have been to Manhattan recently you feel as if it is for sure.
DeBlasio moved the drug addicts and mentally ill to hotels so they’re now shooting up in the streets of midtown Manhattan or other areas that were thriving like Fulton mall in Brooklyn. Homeless are everywhere and crime on the train is out of control. I personally know 2 people who were robbed and/or attacked on the train.
I literally see NYPD cops sitting and watching this stuff and doing nothing. They were told to ignore petty crime to avoid backlash. And if you ever heard of “broken windows theory”, it all adds up to the city feeling unsafe.
You asked for it and now you got it.
so basically you're saying those who were blind to the reality of NYC can now see. sounds like deblasio made a good choice.
@@jusletursoulglobaby deblasio was just what the communist doctor ordered
@@brothertoughlove do you know what a communist is? doesnt sound like it
@@brothertoughlove I’m sure he and his donors are really pushing for the State to own all of their businesses & capital. Rich people are notorious for giving their property away willingly.
The guy in Cleveland told you your take on crime was an understatement . And thats why they were taking to the streets to help
What is up with Vice when they use this reporter? He never asks any real questions that try and challenge the narrative, never. All he does is pander, and then the comments are drowned in right wing bots. Left wing media won't be allowed once the corporate takeover is complete so I suspect these are the initial stages of changing this media company into more mainstream right wing propaganda (liberal and conservative are both right, in this case it would be liberal). It's just like the liberal bias to tell everyone everything is okay and to go back to business as usual. How about the guy literally telling the reporter he's underestimating crime while he just seems to not listen? Telling the reporter how getting the cops OUT of the community is necessary to prevent crime yet the reporter didn't follow up questions about this? This dude seriously came away with a short video about nothing. By the way, the cops wanting to break into that building for getting eggs thrown at them for assaulting someone with mace is shameful behavior and it's no wonder why they cause violence. We're having fragile egos with the brains of children carrying guns.
Understanding that we have a bias to seeing violence in the media is something pretty obvious that most people understand, you'd have to be an idiot to come away thinking it was some kind of revelation.
Zeke Spector I would like to thank you for doing real investigative journalism, getting down and dirty to find the real problems going on in America and not spreading more fake or inflated nonsense. You alone have got me back to watching Vice.
Here here.
4:01
What this shows is that people, the viewers of the news themselves, skew the stories they see. It’s not just the media, the media caters to what people want.
Also American media is so problematic. Aside from like pbs and npr its just piss poor journalism driven by an agenda
Anyone born in 80’s New York knows what crime on a high scale really is not saying the crime now is not bad it’s just more cover on it since we have social media
@Not Convinced the propaganda has rotted your brain
True
@Not Convinced turn off the news buddy lol
Reminds me of that movie Nightcrawler. Great movie that was
Yeah that's what I was thinking.
I was on the fence when it came out and never watched, I'm taking your recommendation!
@@corinnek3030 I think you’ll enjoy it! Let me know what you thought
Media is all about engagement. Making you angry is the easiest way.
They also never tell of positive things people are doing. No mutual aid. They want you to feel helpless.
Anger and fear make people easy to manipulate.
Yes they are, and its not just media its social media. So much anxiety and fear hits people when they see mass shootings trending for hours and all the tweets and pics. People forget their thousands of miles away, people forget that events like this are rare and yet we all feel like it can happen to us all the time.
Same with fires. Like over in Boulder, it got out of hand and burned alot of homes. But that hasn't been the only fire in years. Last year and this year had alot of wildfires that just about impacted everyone's air quality state wide with a drizzling of ash.
Two years ago my own neighborhood almost burned down around the fourth of July when a neighbors feild caught on fire. Colorado is a really dry place contrary to the belief that we must be snowed on often.
Same with hurricanes and tornados, we expect them to destroy stuff and stimulate the economy through the path of recovery. The news blows it up when it happens at an unusual time and location, as it is expected to not waste a perfectly good tragedy to make sensationalism.
The business of Fear Mongering
All of this is exactly what's going on in Portland, Oregon right now.
Shooting numbers are being compared to the previous high from the 80's, while ignoring the fact that the population has more than doubled since then. The "local" media relentlessly pushing crime-related narratives is getting incredibly tiring, but people here really are being convinced the city has turned into Caracas , Kabul, or another one of the murder capitols of the world.
Indeed. It's even in small towns, people this drunks are a new problem in my home town, when in reality the are far fewer... but they used to be able to afford homes, so they ate just visible on the street now.
It's still significant that homicides have spiked in the last couple of years. Trying to handwave it away ad just a result if population increase is intellectually dishonest.
Portland is softer....than my chicks ass.
Because it is. The number of cops don't match up with the number of citizens. You can't expect public services to shrink and provide adequate services. It's not just a cop thing, same can be said about Firefighters, hospitals and public infrastructure, which is severely lacking.
You're clearly delusional to think that violent crimes aren't becoming commonplace and more brazen from the lack of prosecution from the District Attorney's office.
11:35 these people will never take responsibility for their own actions.
Smh when you do we will, lead the way.
@@GegeP1804 you will never, every immigrant group arriving in the US outperform your group within the first couple years. They are Kenyans and Nigerians, Asians, Latinos which clearly proves your racism claim as nothing but an excuse. Even they don’t like you because, all you do is whine.
@@CZcams_Enjoyerlol “these people” aren’t the ones committing crime and theft and murder….they are patrolling the streets for those who are
@@CZcams_Enjoyerlol lol sir, I’m an immigrant and outperform you as well. The thing is, I can see clearly the plight of AA in this country. They have been wronged starting with the no mule and 10 acres of land. It has never been fair or equal for them. Almost every time, they tried to build something it has been tear down. Until the history and the results of this history can be acknowledged I don’t see how it can be worked out. The problem is”y’all” want to ignore and rewrite history, just face what’s been done and see the consequences.
@Leftists are Naturally Weak now you want to want to step out the subject. I’m talking about the AA that were enslaved in USA, stay on the subject and that’s part of the problem. You all want to do everything else but talk about the current problem staring you in the face.
Very insightful!
I respect and appreciate what New Era Cleveland and BIVO are doing, taking control of their communities and truly trying to change the culture and not just talking about it. The only issue I had was when New Era was asked "What causes this kind of crime?" their response, almost immediately, was "white supremacy". 1) How? How does white supremacy cause violence in a community that is self proclaimed a 'black community'? If white supremacist aren't in these communities how are they causing this crime? 2) And what does that even mean?
I am serious and mean no disrespect at all.
Exactly, well said and good question
People who complain about white supremacy have overdosed on copium.
It means mfs have lost their minds. Also major media outlet like vice casually portraying black racists as good doers …
White supremacy forced their grandparents into poverty
I apologize on behalf of the black race that we don’t claim those failed abortions. We are fine in my community and don’t want or accept handouts like the rest of these fatherless betamales.
This guy's great always love his pieces
no…? He just loves his work…sorry you can’t understand why someone would be passionate about that
I’m concerned about his weight. His gut is huge.
@@alexill nice! What a cool and nice thing to say :)
20:12 I really like this guy and his mission. This man speaks the truth.
So he asked the cops to step back. Instead of asking the neighborhood to step back from robbing stealing and killing? Cause how i c it if there was no robbing stealing and killing the cops would not be there.
@ᗩᒪIYᗩᕼ u should educate yourself.
Love it … great job zeke
These are the kinds of VICE reports I want to see more often.
Local media is always after the big story and crime is almost always that big story.
Only if you make it dramatic, fun or scary to watch… for money
Love to see those brothers and sisters out there doing what they need to in their Cleveland community and props to vice for their great coverage!
great video looking beyond what is normally covered
I wish VICE would focus on things like this. This is great reporting, unbiased like its suppose to
They are, hence us being here. I totally dig it.
It most certainly is! They make it seem as if guns are to blame for the crime, but in reality the amount of homicides by gun in america is almost the same rate of homicides by vehicles, knives, and other types of violence in canada.
Edit: keep in mind canada is a lot less overpopulated than america, so america has exceptionally good crime rates for its size.
Love that reporter, his coverage is always so intertaining
"Wow man! There's no crime out here! It's all the media's fault."
-safe chubby white guy.
Thankyou. That was excellent.
Okaaay Vice.
I'm seeing you over there.
Finally pulling it out of the mud. 🙌
Yes and not reporting anything in a false manner causes people to react in a different manner than if they knew what actually is transpiring
for example vice
Are you saying crime is being under reported? Depends on who you want to look like criminals huh.
Did you see that swat team destroy the lock on a multi residence building in a high crime area to show overwhelming force to a child throwing eggs?
You’d only think that was ok if you thought those families are all criminals who just aren’t in prison. Those are working families those swat officers left exposed to gangsters and crackheads that were locked out before.
Just read crime statistics, and books
this was such a good doc
“He had something in his hands, I wasn’t tryna stop and talk to him” 😭😩🤣
Thnx guys for your hard honest work..be safe people
Theres a lack of a systemic analaysis about the causes of crime and thats definitly the fault of an media industry which more and more seeks to purely entertain for commercial reasons, rather than educate and ask critical questions. When we look at crime we shouldnt just look at it quantitavly but rather qualitavly, if theres crime we should ask what happened in the sense of why did it happen, is there a systemic reason (poverty, racism, misogyny, the need for illegal drugs, etc.). Moreover we should ask if there's a disbalance about the medial treatment of crime on the streets (gangviolonce, drug-crime, shootings etc.) and crimes that involve tax evation, corruption, sex abuse etc, which is often committed by other higher classes (rich white people), because I feel there is.
Good points
So for example what should be a crime coming out of "systemic misogyny"? Can you give us an example?
@@JM-hf9bl domestic violence, rape
@@SkepticalMantisCHANNEL10 I don't see how that's "systemic".
@@JM-hf9bl its systemic in the sense that the vast majority of the victims are women rather than men
No matter what background or ethnicity you have, to me it is terrifying if you form an armed militia and shout around at night with guns drawn. Even if it is supposed to be a positive message. So mind-boggling...
Imagine a group of white people walking around saying the same things about themselves. The National Guard would be called.
3:02 vice really have a sense of humor 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's not real crime especially with the catch and release. Meaningless stats with no convictions and prosecutions that stick .
This is totally illustrative of how NYC as a city is dying
czcams.com/video/IDPr4y381Mw/video.html
a ny doucmentary about that topic in 1990
You're a fool if you think that.
after even civilian videos ive seen of NYC i've decided ILL NEVER GO THERE. Literally reminiscent of escape from New york. As an LA resident i can sadly say the same is happening here. Trash blue states and policies strict gun laws but even more crime lol
They should make it mandatory for media to release resources found and quoted. If we have to do this for our college essays they should do it for the television watchers. Who knows maybe the will start reading >:-0
good job man, love the way how you walk, pray, talk with the communities
This has to be the funniest video vice has ever put out
I love how VICE has started doing REAL journalism again during the pandemic, like they used to back in the day. Great journalism!!!!
@Juu Tuub fok u on aboot m8 name the journalism they havent done thats what am i saying
That quote at the very end says it all
I had started to realise this for some time now.
A family friend came to visit from Australia. I asked what the Australian perception of America was, and she said “There’s a lot of crime and racism”. I was disappointed but not supprised considering the only thing our media covers these days are A) Crime and B) Racism. Yes, there is crime (like every other country in the world) and there is some racism (arguebly the LEAST racist country though), but our country has so many amazing things.
It's pretty funny that an Australian called another country racist, we had a race riot against Muslims recently. I think it's cause America is constantly under the spotlight.
Some racism??? Wait, you're white right?
@@gogan Asian. Yes there is racism but literally go to anyone country in the world, and you will realize the US is literally the least racist country. Blacks, Asians, Hispanics have more opportunities and treated way better here than any other country (even their own homeland)
It's a world tendency. Someone is pulling the strings.
Racism is not bad
The media has been taking back to back L after L ever since Derrick Chauvin verdict, the Aubrey murder trial verdict, and now the Kim Potter verdict. It's not looking good.
Yes, because everyone knows the media is directly effected by people going to jail.
You're deluded if you think that the media isn't playing both sides.
Wow that was eye opening because I've lived here in Cleveland most of my life (probably a total of 35 years) and yet I've never once seen and never once heard of the New Era group!
I think what they're doing is awesome and pretty damn brave 👍
Vice are one of the best things to come from CZcams.
10/10 I'm a straight up conservative and this is the approach I've been preaching for. Not hating the police and fighting against the system but working on changing the deep rooted issues within it
Remove the vindictive bullies.
how’d that work for Dorner?
The police and “system” is the deep rooted issues within
Shoutout to vice for coming up with these stories. They do a great job
When I go on streaming video services, one of the major ones is virtually all violent fear based programming. They do have other stuff but you have to dig through
8:24 'I'm gonna make the news getting run over by the cops' haha
Vice, never disappoints.
About damn time...I'm actually surprised people decided to bring this up because it's medias big secret. I did research for media so I was always annoyed at the difference between reality and the reports. Some towns haven't had a murder in like 40 years but they get big city crime news 🤷🏾♂️
It reminds me of the movie night crawler. that movie was way ahead of its time and this just proves it
"Crime report from September showed that homicides increased by nearly 30% between 2019 and 2020" . Could that he related to the defund the police movement that started in 2019 which caused massive budget cuts to city's across the nation?
Homicides was even higher in 12 major cities in 2021 mainly defund police cities. Men lie women lie bodies don’t lie.
You have a country with little to no social safety nets, and a bunch of people who were all in lockdown, financially going backwards, then they were all dumped back out on the streets; at the same time eviction blocking mandates rolled back.
What did they expect was going to happen? People broke and stressed coming out of lockdown.
For real doe
@@robertmoray988 O_o. . . wtf, are you slow? What about his statemented seemed unreasonable and something to make a mockery of? Its not a surprise that people living in disparity do desperate and extreme things to survive. You're obnoxious. Their mindset isn't the same as rich kids who do bad things for fun. Most people in those kinds of situations actions are based on their lack of options or their perceived lack of options.
And this is why everyone is on edge ready to cause an actual crime
Excellent story.....we must battle perception and Balance the narrative. These groups taking back their neighborhoods is uplifting and motivating. Thank u Vice News!
Haven’t heard a single thing about the Waukesha massacre since last month
Another vice story where people who are committing crimes are let off the hook with excuses
Man speaking at 19 minutes I respect very highly, that was the best elaboration of what needs to be done. As a black man in America I commend you for your views on the police
What he said was a vague answer really.. who is going to invest into something people see as a risk?
@@Arkile that’s very true but you have to be realistic about what change can actually happen, and that was the best depiction of a reasonable solution, can’t defund them or get rid of them entirely best to put the money into more effective training and allow people to police themselves in more situations.
@Leftists are Naturally Weak because we are the most stopped by police in America based on our small population. Meaning we deal with police more often than any other race. When you don’t talk about the elephant in the room the problem doesn’t get solved. Educate yourself. As the race that has to deal with police brutality the most, I think his opinion is very realistic and important for my people to truly see some form of change and be able to live a more normal life.
Vice is the best place for knowledge when your high but wanna be entertained as well
Yes you are changing are perspective on crime vice.
Does the media even use the word "gang" any more or is it moved to the "hate speech" category?
16:50 when the data proves a conservative take they say “there’s no consensus”. THERE IS NEVER CONSENSUS.
great vid and that newark police chief was a breath of fresh air
I didn't know Vice was going to make an Autobiography about itself.