Joe is monitored 10000000% without question. The abhorrent vitriol he gets from legacy media makes it a given. Facts. Sorry Joe, that's that rear naked *WOKE*
One of the most important experiences my life was going to an economic conference. Many of the topics discussed were about issues that I’ve heard politicians, pundits, and keyboard warriors argue about with complete certainty. But then I hear the leading experts in the field - people who dedicate their life’s work to this - and so many times they’d say “we don’t know yet,” “our data isn’t clear on this,” etc. Anyway, “I don’t know” is an incredibly important tool in the human toolbag. It gives you humility and curiosity, and allows you to seek deeper truths.
Yeah, regardless of whether you click on the permissions they're doing it friend. Someone knowing and also using EVERYTHING about you as personal as what turns you on and when you mast3rb8 is great huh, what a time to be alive!
@@blackscreen1810 he's a threat because he's not under control and can give out any information whenever he wants. Joe keeps the elites up at night believe that. How ironic that pegasus was the real trojan horse. Stay safe friend
Joe is known for switching platforms actually (Iphone/android), but after this he is def switching something up and probably has more off the record questions.
As others have already said, this is one of the best guests I can remember on the podcast. He doesn't engage in nonsensical speculation, politically slanted opinions, etc - he just states objective and empirical facts regardless of their implications or individuals they may indict.
Trust me he is obfuscating details. At this point everyone associated with (and at a high enough level) military, security, intel, political, tech/cryptography, c-suite, Wall Street are all careful of what they say in private and especially in public and most of what these mouth pieces say are pre-written/pre-planned, thought out disclosures. And the objective is to obfuscate, confuse, and turn people against each other when the real enemy is anyone who conceals the truth, and that can only be people and organizations with influence, power, charity even. You are right he is staying objective imperial facts, that are self serving, and anything truth that would benefit the people is shushed and the most dangerous to people in power not the majority of people.
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." -Edward Snowden
I wouldn’t say Western society as a whole, certainly in the US though. The EU has created several mechanisms for its citizens to protect their privacy. Not perfect, but they exist. In the US, our politicians are so corrupted by corporations that they have put us up for sale.
Of course. For convenience and ego. It wasn’t some diabolical plan involving vaccines or fluoride water. It was your need to tell everybody your useless opinions on the Facebook. 😂
Its only going to get worse going forward. Anyone under the age of 21, their phone may as well be surgically implanted in their hand, they cannot do the most basic of functions without it, they rely on it to do *everything* for them.
They want you pics. Videos and communication. All stored in Utah. They may already, like Amazon, be recording all speaking within earshot of a mic or speaker. Your thermostat is listening 🤣
@@jackashe3971 Joe Rogan has more trust of more Americans then any politician or media personality in the US. Joe Rogan could literally do a week on something like the crimes of the CIA...and the CIA would shortly go away. Joe has the power to make the world a better place. Those who control DC should be afraid.
I am both fascinated and terrified by what Gavin has to say and the implications it has for society at large. Bottom line is, if you use technology, you waive your rights to privacy. Period. 🙄 This has made me look at smartphones and internet-connected tech in a very different light!
JESUS KNOCKS ON YOUR HEART AND LONGS FOR YOU TO ANSWER! HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE PERISH INTO HELL. GOD LOVES YOU SO HE GIVES YOU FREE WILL AND A CHOICE TO ACCEPT HIM OR REJECT HIM. TO LOVE HIM OR TO LOVE SIN/THIS WORLD. CALL UPON JESUS & ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS! SURRENDER YOUR WILL & YOUR LIFE TO HIM AND HE WILL GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN! PICTURE YOUR BEST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HEAVEN! NOW PICTURE YOUR WORST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HELL! HE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT SO IF YOU REJECT HIM YOU WILL BE SEPARATED FROM HIM & HIS BLESSINGS (LOVE, PEACE, JOY, HOPE, REST, ETC). IN HELL YOU WILL BE ALONE WITHOUT GOD OR PEOPLE, YOU WILL BE HOPELESS, YOU WILL BE IN DESPAIR & AGONY FOREVER! GOD'S STANDARD FOR HEAVEN IS PERFECTION AND ONLY JESUS (THE SON OF GOD/GOD IN THE FLESH) LIVED THAT PERFECT LIFE! HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE & TOOK THE WRATH OF THE FATHER ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SINS! GOD IS JUST SO HE MUST PUNISH SIN & HE IS HOLY SO NO SIN CAN ENTER HIS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. IF YOU ARE IN CHRIST ON JUDGEMENT DAY GOD WILL SEE YOU AS HIS PERFECT SON (SINLESS SINCE YOUR SINS ARE COVERED BY JESUS' OFFERING). YOU CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO REJECT JESUS' GIFT/SACRIFICE & PAY FOR YOUR OWN SIN WITH DEATH (HELL) BUT THAT SEEMS PRETTY FOOLISH! GOD SEES & HEARS EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID & DONE. YOU WONT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH HIM & YOU CANT DEFEND ANY OF YOUR SINS TO HIM. WE'RE ALL GUILTY WITHOUT ACCEPTING JESUS' SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS! MUHAMMAD DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, BUDDHA DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO PASTOR/PRIEST/MARY OR SAINT DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO IDOLS OR FALSE GODS DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ACTOR OR CELEBRITY DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ATHLETE OR POLITICIAN DIED FOR YOUR SINS! JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK VERY SOON (THESE ARE END TIMES) WITH JUDGEMENT! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS! IT STARTS WITH ASKING HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS & INVITING HIM INTO YOUR HEART/LIFE, SURRENDER ALL TO HIM! IT'S ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR CREATOR. HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU! Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6 "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33 “For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23
Longtime JRE viewer here who watched the full episode on Spotify. Gavin de Becker was the best guest I can remember seeing on the Podcast. He hit on every critical topic relevant to personal liberty and democracy. Government, media, and corporate corruption. He names names and deconstructs their motives and interest. Fauci, MBS, Pfizer, etc. Perfect episode. Absolute must watch.
What Orwell failed to predict is that we'd buy the cameras ourselves, and that our biggest fear would be that nobody was watching. Instagram, Facebook, TikTok and so on.
Buy a PinePhone, simply a smaller chance of hacking around it, because it runs any OS you want (i.e. any Linux), though Chinamen have probably installed some backdoor in the hardware itself.
That's why they're making everything 5g and things like needing a fiddly bull s t tool to remove your sim all to make it literally impossible to have privacy. Yay 😔
27 years ago this man saved my life from an attack on a trail at night with his book The Gift of Fear. I immediately used the things he said on intuition when a man was hiding in a tree and accidentally fell down. In his book he talked about this gut feeling almost like butterflies that told me to get out. If I would have disregarded this feeling… anyways weeks later this guy was arrested and convicted in several rapes. Ottawa Ontario.
I read his book at around the same time you did, and have applied it many times. The key point of the book is to heed your own instincts, to which I would add my own experience: that people who resemble each other act like each other (towards you).
@@DoomCatcher sure, theres always something worse/better. Whats your point? Its still something to be very concerned about and far more than most people already are.
Did u not listen to the interview? He said that there are thousands of people at apple are working to prevent this, it’s just so hard that they can’t win.
You can still get basic flip phones on standard plans. I made the change a while back. I still have to switch back periodically so I can use my drone for jobs, but the basic flip phone is far less involved than the smart crap.
@@TheBlurReturns16 i think youre missing my point. and dont like your own comment. i saw it within a minute so dont lie and say ya didnt. like i said youre missing my point lady
"You don't even need to get a text message or click anything" Joe- "Wow, so you get a text and you click the link?" "No you don't need to click anything or open a message" "OH so like you can get a Twitter message or something and get it then" "Nope, you don't even need to get a message" "OK so you get like a text message and click the link" WHAT THE FUCK MAN
One of the top 50 best podcast episodes from JRE in my opinion. Too bad they had to stop, I heard Joe say that "he had to go soon" at the end, he probably had something booked/planned and a time to catch. But I think they easily could've gone for another 45 minutes in this episode!
@@bigdumb4943 Yeah lol. Not much of a ringing endorsement when there's potentially 49 better episodes one can listen to. I doubt I've listened to more than 20 JRE episodes all the way through after years of listening.
Everyone is saying this is one of the best, Why is that? haven’t listened to it so just give me a broad answer if u can so I can decide to watch or not
@@typonegatiff1254 The guy seems to be a security expert of sorts and we are living in a world that is exponentially going more digital, there’s probably alot of good security information and things you should or could be doing to keep your data safe.
@@joemq Off the top of my head, good ones: Tulsi Gabbard Mike Baker Jordan Peterson Bret Weinstein Bernie Sanders Lex Freidman Jewel Dr Phil David Goggins Jocko Willink Bill Maher Joey Diaz Elon Musk
@Ben Neumann because it's the truth. Granted you probably aren't important enough to be monitored and exploited but if you want to stay truly safe from manipulation, then yeah say all conversations on a phone as like your saying out loud because it is traceable at any given moment.
It’s fucking awesome. I pity the tools who wrote this guy off, “he’s a shock comedian looking for views” I’ve been told by family members who let their GP play psychiatrist and who had Electric shock treatment for bipolar. I feel like i need to avenge my family for what they’ve done to our older generations and come to think of it, what they’re trying to do to us now
I am always so impressed by how Joe asks questions. I work in IT and have worked in security and I was wondering the same thing about could this backdoor be synced in the cloud to the device again. I think it is so awesome how well he listens.
This isn't a back door. Apple doesn't make backdoors. This is an exploit. A backdoor is leaving your keys under your carpet incase you lose it. An exploit is someone picking your lock to open it.
I was very impressed with the way he differentiated exploits between apps. Something you probably know but most people do not know is that the majority of exploits are very program and program version specific. Joe seemed to have a good grasp on this.
From the moment you are born, you are taged, documented, tracked. It hasn't always been this bad, around 911 twin towers, people lost privacy laws. Edit: but it's for our safety
@@x_____________ the only way to actually have privacy is to threaten people with loss of life and scare them enough to have PTSD into investing you. Like our government has created some privacy for themselves.
It's really important to at least know what ground we stand, we joke about the subject of privacy a lot so we all kinda know what's going on but to hear the situation being fully addressed with total seriousness it's refreshing and so eerie at the same time
This wasn't even the best part of the podcast. The exchange about the defense classes Gavin teaches was excellent. You could hear Joe's disgust at the proposition. Gavin took it with extreme class and flipped it around so expertly. I loved Joe realize that although his argument was correct, it wasn't the situation being discussed, and immediately change his tune was priceless. I really appreciated the maturity of Joe and his guests. The ability to listen to 2 people discuss important issues IN GOOD FAITH is why Rogan is so successful.
Worked for a financial institution. Im shocked at the number of our customers who fell for scams a d being convinced to download an app that gave the scammers direct access to their phones/computers. Not the first time i heard about this no click access but still amazed at this technology.
as a general rule of thumb 9/10 customer support agencies will never ask for remote desktop access. and to add another general if they're insisting and they're Indian .. beware😂
I use to be a manager at Sprint. When someone losses there phone or it gets stolen we can track it and see exactly where it's at on or off. We can also see all your texts and calls even after they are erased. All apps, pics, data and personal info we can access through our database. We can mirror your phone and watch what you or someone is doing on your phone in real time. Just imagine what the government can do if a cell phone provider can do this...... Crazy and scary honestly.
Seriously fuck this. Why are we all tricked into thinking we need to have a smartphone in order to be involved and communicate and make a living, and stay informed, and have fun, and be happy, and not be bored. It's like we are all just a bunch of tards willingly shackling ourselves as we pretend to try and fit in and be normal. I hate that I'm a hypocrite
You can give all that up, i have. My only vice is surfing the web on my desktop occasionally. No social media at all, other than youtube really. No smart phone, no cell phone. Lifes actually great, people think they need a cell, that they NEED to be able to be reached 24/7, its a sickness. Ive seen people literally have psychotic attacks because they were away from a smart phone for a time
@@jonathansoko1085 people know they dont need their smartphone, but how do we help everyone realize they are tricking themselves into thinking they need it.
can they get into your phone if you have no signal at all? there must be some code change or something in the phone when pegasus is in your phone. maybe a file size change or something. using phone resources maybe? also does it depend on how old your phone is or does pegasus work on only smart phone?
The real question is, what if someone messages you on something other than WhatsApp? JK. Is it me or has Joe been like this more and more recently? To the point where I’m driving and end up shouting at my phone in anger and disbelief he keeps missing a simple repeated point.
@@MT-hd2es @Quixx I'm so glad to hear I'm not the only one who was thinking these things. At this point I'm back listening to pre spotify episodes over again lol
I have literally had this happen to me and a friend where they see and know everything and have changed things and you have nothing to show as a normal person it's quite scary.
Guest: “They can access your phone without you ever knowing.” Joe: “So it can be just a blank text?” Guest: “It’s no click, they don’t even have to send you anything.” Joe: “So can it be through Twitter?” Guest: “… It’s no click, they don’t even have to send you anything.” 30 seconds later Joe: “So like they can just send you a blank text and control your phone” Guest: “How f ing high are you, it’s no click they don’t even have to send you anything. They only need to know your number” Hahaha
All I'm getting from this is if government's really wanted to go after drug cartels, keep drugs out of prisons and trace money laundering they could. CA has 500 police agencies, about 30 state prisons, etc ( the economy would collapse ).
A big part of the system of keeping 3rd world countries poor and exploitable is laundering money from corruption and crime and injecting it directly into the economy of world powers like US or UK. There is a documentary here on CZcams called 'spider's web british second empire' or something like that that goes in depth. Drug cartels are definitely part of the system, there is a famous case where a bank (I think it was citybank) was caught laundering money for Colombian cartels to transfer it into the US and literally no one got arrested, just got a small fine.
That's not the same. Hacking a target requires knowing a target, but in case of drug cartels, the leaders obviously try to remain anonymous, and use more secure channels than regular phones
How does a program on the phone do anything when the battery is taken out? Am I missing something? Thats the power source right? Where would it draw power to do an execute? Is there another power source?
3:22 With signal, the message you've typed to the other user is encrypted, but it isn't encrypted until you click send. If your phone is hacked already they can monitor your keystrokes you typed before you clicked send, and so they know what you're saying regardless because the hacker can see the message you typed before you clicked send.
Exactly. Cloning phones has come a long way from what it was a few years ago and they can see everything you can see on your phone so encrypted apps make no difference at all. What's app ,signal etc are all useless if you get targeted with Pegasus or stuff like that
Joe is definitely not just asking for a friend.
Joe is monitored 10000000% without question. The abhorrent vitriol he gets from legacy media makes it a given. Facts. Sorry Joe, that's that rear naked *WOKE*
After getting a lesson in reality, Joe looks pretty terrified.
there is no friend when someone says that....the whole world knows theres no friend. Whoever invented that phrase needs to be hung up by their heels
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Exactly... lol he looks very concern
They're totally monitoring Joe's phone.
💯
Why would they be lol?
They’re monitoring all of our phones
Facts broski. The abhorrent vitriol he gets from legacy media makes that a no brainer. Sorry Joe, that's that rear naked *WOKE* son!! 😉
After getting a lesson in reality, Joe looks pretty terrified.
One day, privacy will be considered an act of terrorism.
You're a victim of the rules you live by. You have to willingly get in the pod.
@@TokyoSeventeen
You 🤝 Me
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"What are you trying to hide?"
already is ....
Crazy to think your own phone isn't private..
Well...
Joe threw his phone on the Traeger grill immediately after this interview.
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No he just left it in the sauna at 200 degrees.
I've about had enough!
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Mmm..smoked cellular phone. 😆
He dropped his kettle bell on it repeatedly
I like how this incredibly brilliant man said "I don't know" several times. Humility.
Honesty
One of the wisest things one can say is “I do not know… yet”.
One of the most important experiences my life was going to an economic conference. Many of the topics discussed were about issues that I’ve heard politicians, pundits, and keyboard warriors argue about with complete certainty. But then I hear the leading experts in the field - people who dedicate their life’s work to this - and so many times they’d say “we don’t know yet,” “our data isn’t clear on this,” etc.
Anyway, “I don’t know” is an incredibly important tool in the human toolbag. It gives you humility and curiosity, and allows you to seek deeper truths.
That's why he's brilliant
Such a strength to have
This was without a doubt one of the top jre podcasts of all time. Highly recommend listening to the whole thing.
100% agree
@@evaanderlove1001 noice thank you for the reco. will listen to it tomorrow
One of the worst actually
Every now and then you come a across an episode with someone you have no idea existed...and cant stop listening....much like this one.
@@ranranpoopants How so?
This is the kind of stuff Edward Snowden talks about in his book Permanent Record, very good read, highly recommend it.
“How do you know if somebody is in your phone?” Joe, the government will DEFINITELY be in your YOUR phone bro.
Yea he must be top 100 surveillance subjects globally and that's sad and crazy
Awww, the man with a microphone in everyone's house is concerned with his privacy, my heart bleeds for the poor fellow 😏
Yeah, regardless of whether you click on the permissions they're doing it friend. Someone knowing and also using EVERYTHING about you as personal as what turns you on and when you mast3rb8 is great huh, what a time to be alive!
@@suedenim6590 he’s famous though so it’s way different
@@blackscreen1810 he's a threat because he's not under control and can give out any information whenever he wants. Joe keeps the elites up at night believe that. How ironic that pegasus was the real trojan horse. Stay safe friend
He's desperate to find a way to tell himself he's safe and this guy is just like -- "Nope. No matter what, if they want you, they got you"
I've about had enough!
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Lol…you’re exactly right. Was thinking that myself the whole time😂
That's a fact tho.
I don't think so. He's obviously just asking what are ways people can defend themselves against this overreach.
Joe's on tap 24/7. Jimmy Dore already covered the democrat superpac that funded Joe's smear campaign the last 12 months
I work in infosec and it’s refreshing to hear someone on the “news” not talking bs about these issues. Gg to this guy.
One of the most important interviews ever! Thank you🤙
Joe is getting a new phone after this LOL.
not just the device, it's the phone number too.
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Finally its here.
So what does this mean for the digital id that the WEF wants to implement?
Joe is known for switching platforms actually (Iphone/android), but after this he is def switching something up and probably has more off the record questions.
Bezos had this guy delivered to his house in 3-5 working days
Chill bro. Bezos still gets free 2day shipping.
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Bezos is crazy
Had to sign for the fucker to
One of your very best interviews. This guy is AWESOME! And sooo smart!
As others have already said, this is one of the best guests I can remember on the podcast. He doesn't engage in nonsensical speculation, politically slanted opinions, etc - he just states objective and empirical facts regardless of their implications or individuals they may indict.
Joe: “How many gigabytes on a phone?”
Guest: “No idea!”
FACTS!!!!!
One person's objective empirical facts is anther's politically stated opinion.
@@Clobercow1 Thank you Kamala Harris.
Such a useless comment 🙄
Trust me he is obfuscating details.
At this point everyone associated with (and at a high enough level) military, security, intel, political, tech/cryptography, c-suite, Wall Street are all careful of what they say in private and especially in public and most of what these mouth pieces say are pre-written/pre-planned, thought out disclosures.
And the objective is to obfuscate, confuse, and turn people against each other when the real enemy is anyone who conceals the truth, and that can only be people and organizations with influence, power, charity even.
You are right he is staying objective imperial facts, that are self serving, and anything truth that would benefit the people is shushed and the most dangerous to people in power not the majority of people.
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."
-Edward Snowden
Edward warned everyone nothing changed
@@johnherigton8687 getting likes is more important
also.... most people don't have anything important to say - including being the woke doomsday shouter. it's just another brand on the internet
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Not only has western society failed to fight for our privacy, rights, and freedoms; we’ve willingly given them up and accepted this.
mfers posting their entire lives on social media. They gave up their privacy willingly to chase clout. They need "likes" like a crackhead needs a hit.
I wouldn’t say Western society as a whole, certainly in the US though. The EU has created several mechanisms for its citizens to protect their privacy. Not perfect, but they exist. In the US, our politicians are so corrupted by corporations that they have put us up for sale.
Of course. For convenience and ego. It wasn’t some diabolical plan involving vaccines or fluoride water. It was your need to tell everybody your useless opinions on the Facebook. 😂
Its only going to get worse going forward. Anyone under the age of 21, their phone may as well be surgically implanted in their hand, they cannot do the most basic of functions without it, they rely on it to do *everything* for them.
Yep, long live capitalism!
Excellent podcast thank you.
God bless you
Congrats on 1800 episodes JR. This was a great one.
Would love to see a cyber-security expert on after listening to Gavin's take on Pegasus 2
I love how nervous and freaked out Joe is the entire time. Dude barely finishes his answer and Joe rapid fires another question. Cracking me up.
HOW MANY GIGABYTES ARE ON A PHONE?!
They want you pics. Videos and communication.
All stored in Utah.
They may already, like Amazon, be recording all speaking within earshot of a mic or speaker.
Your thermostat is listening 🤣
@@derekderek2570 that shit was adorable. I died 🤣💀
Because Joe Rogan is absolutely a "person of interest" to people with power.
@@jackashe3971 Joe Rogan has more trust of more Americans then any politician or media personality in the US.
Joe Rogan could literally do a week on something like the crimes of the CIA...and the CIA would shortly go away.
Joe has the power to make the world a better place.
Those who control DC should be afraid.
I stare into the soulless eye of my camera when I furiously beat it. I’m not going to let them win.
Hahahaha! Damn bro.
See their great undoing could be terrabytes of man ass.
Not all heroes wear capes.
Pic related
Winner.....all fucking day long
Kudos!
Awesome Interveiw!
Great conversation and mutual
Reaction to each of your opinions and information! Intense! Enuf
Already! Wearing! Excellent!
I am both fascinated and terrified by what Gavin has to say and the implications it has for society at large. Bottom line is, if you use technology, you waive your rights to privacy. Period. 🙄 This has made me look at smartphones and internet-connected tech in a very different light!
You late ah
Should’ve listened 12 years agi
Joe about to go blow up his phone after this conversation lol.
Or shoot it with an arrow from 200 yards
Aren't we all? I'm about to dump all tech!
@@sageparsely2365 Oh yeah?
That’s a unique response for sure.
@@adunce.5422 but it's true right? ..., I hope 😏
JESUS KNOCKS ON YOUR HEART AND LONGS FOR YOU TO ANSWER! HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE PERISH INTO HELL. GOD LOVES YOU SO HE GIVES YOU FREE WILL AND A CHOICE TO ACCEPT HIM OR REJECT HIM. TO LOVE HIM OR TO LOVE SIN/THIS WORLD. CALL UPON JESUS & ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS! SURRENDER YOUR WILL & YOUR LIFE TO HIM AND HE WILL GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN! PICTURE YOUR BEST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HEAVEN! NOW PICTURE YOUR WORST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HELL! HE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT SO IF YOU REJECT HIM YOU WILL BE SEPARATED FROM HIM & HIS BLESSINGS (LOVE, PEACE, JOY, HOPE, REST, ETC). IN HELL YOU WILL BE ALONE WITHOUT GOD OR PEOPLE, YOU WILL BE HOPELESS, YOU WILL BE IN DESPAIR & AGONY FOREVER!
GOD'S STANDARD FOR HEAVEN IS PERFECTION AND ONLY JESUS (THE SON OF GOD/GOD IN THE FLESH) LIVED THAT PERFECT LIFE! HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE & TOOK THE WRATH OF THE FATHER ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SINS! GOD IS JUST SO HE MUST PUNISH SIN & HE IS HOLY SO NO SIN CAN ENTER HIS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. IF YOU ARE IN CHRIST ON JUDGEMENT DAY GOD WILL SEE YOU AS HIS PERFECT SON (SINLESS SINCE YOUR SINS ARE COVERED BY JESUS' OFFERING). YOU CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO REJECT JESUS' GIFT/SACRIFICE & PAY FOR YOUR OWN SIN WITH DEATH (HELL) BUT THAT SEEMS PRETTY FOOLISH! GOD SEES & HEARS EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID & DONE. YOU WONT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH HIM & YOU CANT DEFEND ANY OF YOUR SINS TO HIM. WE'RE ALL GUILTY WITHOUT ACCEPTING JESUS' SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS!
MUHAMMAD DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, BUDDHA DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO PASTOR/PRIEST/MARY OR SAINT DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO IDOLS OR FALSE GODS DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ACTOR OR CELEBRITY DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ATHLETE OR POLITICIAN DIED FOR YOUR SINS!
JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK VERY SOON (THESE ARE END TIMES) WITH JUDGEMENT! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS! IT STARTS WITH ASKING HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS & INVITING HIM INTO YOUR HEART/LIFE, SURRENDER ALL TO HIM! IT'S ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR CREATOR. HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU!
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6
"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33
“For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23
Longtime JRE viewer here who watched the full episode on Spotify. Gavin de Becker was the best guest I can remember seeing on the Podcast. He hit on every critical topic relevant to personal liberty and democracy. Government, media, and corporate corruption. He names names and deconstructs their motives and interest. Fauci, MBS, Pfizer, etc. Perfect episode. Absolute must watch.
100% agree this was a top tier episode this guy is spot on
Thank you, I will watch
Yea in this clip this guy is as sharp af. Def gonna watch, thanks for the breakdown.
Gavin de Becker is one of the biggest names in the close protection world. That man has made a hell of a business
So I guess I'm going to have to fire up the ol' spotify for the first time since he moved there...
Inspector Gadget was a freaking genius! He had the disappearing message back in the 80's. Time travel is real!
I forgot about this. ah ah.
broo
Great Episode
What Orwell failed to predict is that we'd buy the cameras ourselves, and that our biggest fear would be that nobody was watching. Instagram, Facebook, TikTok and so on.
That and cameras around homes, smart door bells and other IoT devices
Spot On
Glad I'm not one of those "we's".
The world is definitely more accurate to Huxley
As far as I remember, in 1984 you also have to buy the TV with camera watching over you.
Joe Rogan: “So there’s nothing you can do about it?” (listens nervously)
Buy a PinePhone, simply a smaller chance of hacking around it, because it runs any OS you want (i.e. any Linux), though Chinamen have probably installed some backdoor in the hardware itself.
ofc u can do smth about it: dont buy/use the product.
Lol
Lol
@@guestimator121 no need to use slurs
Gavin De Becker is amazing. "The Gift of Fear" a great read.
As long as you're plugged in / jacked in, your vulnerable.
Man seeing how easy it is to break into these smartphones makes me want to go back to flip phones
Nothing is stopping you.
Not exactly easy if it takes a multi billion dollar company and a green light from the government.
That's why they're making everything 5g and things like needing a fiddly bull s t tool to remove your sim all to make it literally impossible to have privacy. Yay 😔
The last flip phone I had still worked after I accidentally ran it over with a lawn mower.
Public phone says we’re the beat
Nice to see an eloquent guest for a change! Straight to the point.
Yea josh Barnett was terrible
Also, I can always admire someone that is willing to answer questions with "I don't know" its a really understimated sign of intelligence.
Right. Like I love Josh Barnett, but that podcast was hard to watch as he kept talking over Joe.
He’s had straight dummies for a while…trying to prove a point that they can’t even articulate…
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27 years ago this man saved my life from an attack on a trail at night with his book The Gift of Fear. I immediately used the things he said on intuition when a man was hiding in a tree and accidentally fell down. In his book he talked about this gut feeling almost like butterflies that told me to get out. If I would have disregarded this feeling… anyways weeks later this guy was arrested and convicted in several rapes. Ottawa Ontario.
Is that a confession 😳🤔👀
@@simonadebisi6501 🤦♀️🙄
So glad you escaped that evil !
Have you ever communicated this to him ? 🙏
What are the odds. Hello from Bank/Catherine 👋
I read his book at around the same time you did, and have applied it many times. The key point of the book is to heed your own instincts, to which I would add my own experience: that people who resemble each other act like each other (towards you).
people should be way more scared of this than they are. And shame on our media for refusing to talk about this and other important issues
Since the day I was born I’ve been on the lookout for any Saudi princes trying to befriend me! Don’t tell me to be scared, I’m being careful
btw from The Guardian, to VICE, and even fully mainstream-media 60 Minutes talked about this last year
@@kevindube7096 and im on the lookout for crocodiles that want my balls
There's far worse than our private data being stolen going on that the msm doesn't cover....
@@DoomCatcher sure, theres always something worse/better. Whats your point? Its still something to be very concerned about and far more than most people already are.
It’s always nice to have all of my paranoid delusions confirmed by an expert. 👍
I've about had enough!
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Same
I like your amadeus laugh pfp
You mean I don’t have schizophrenia?
Yessssssssssssss!
Hahahaha exactly....
🤣🤣🤣
The fact that our government and American tech companies allow this to happen says alot about everyone involved.
What in the god damned fuck are they supposed to do? Ban you from having a phone, so it doesn't happen? Think.
It's not allowed, it's just a part of it that higher powered people have to be wary of
You aren't allowed into the billionaire club unless you play along. Jack Dorsey learned that the hard way.
Allow? The government requests companies put backdoor entries into software to win contracts
Did u not listen to the interview? He said that there are thousands of people at apple are working to prevent this, it’s just so hard that they can’t win.
That was very informative
Thanks
My phone broke like 3 weeks ago and I'm really dreading getting it fixed. It's felt like a really nice vacation that I don't want to end.
You can still get basic flip phones on standard plans. I made the change a while back. I still have to switch back periodically so I can use my drone for jobs, but the basic flip phone is far less involved than the smart crap.
if what you were saying was honest, you simply would not get another phone, you cant fool me
""It's felt like a really nice vacation that I don't want to end.""........... and yet here you are, 2+2=hubcap yes?
@@jefflee1189 So you think the only way you can leave a comment on CZcams is through a phone?
@@TheBlurReturns16 i think youre missing my point. and dont like your own comment. i saw it within a minute so dont lie and say ya didnt.
like i said youre missing my point lady
The question is *never* "What are you trying to hide?" The question is *always* "Where is your search warrant?"
Well said.
"I am the search warrant"
Indeed mate
What? I'm sorry I have low iq.
Not really connected but I see what you’re saying.
This was a another damn good episode. 👍👍
This video is 5 star 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 great. Glad to always be on the channel 🌠
I like how these clips are how I know a new episode drops lol
Haha same here man
"You don't even need to get a text message or click anything"
Joe- "Wow, so you get a text and you click the link?"
"No you don't need to click anything or open a message"
"OH so like you can get a Twitter message or something and get it then"
"Nope, you don't even need to get a message"
"OK so you get like a text message and click the link"
WHAT THE FUCK MAN
LMAO
The guy cold have just explained how they do it, which is normally by using a back door in a vulnerable app that you have on your phone already
Dope on dope
@@Chris-od1jp I just don't get how he kept asking the same question over and over lmao
@@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916 hes panicking
Asking all the right questions man
One of the top 50 best podcast episodes from JRE in my opinion. Too bad they had to stop, I heard Joe say that "he had to go soon" at the end, he probably had something booked/planned and a time to catch. But I think they easily could've gone for another 45 minutes in this episode!
Top 50? Jesus fucking Christ
@@bigdumb4943 I havent watched it yet but?
@@bigdumb4943
Yeah lol. Not much of a ringing endorsement when there's potentially 49 better episodes one can listen to. I doubt I've listened to more than 20 JRE episodes all the way through after years of listening.
No he wanted to go get a new phone STAT haha
@Tonya Harmon
'Potentially'
Had the privilege of protecting Gavin and his Family when I worked for him. Having a one on one conversation with that man was truly an experience.
you're a good kid sergie
@@alainportant6412 troll
Sergio Buenrostro out there Protecting the Gift that is de Becker!
Today on things that never happened…
Respect sir! Do you train Jiujitsu?
The full podcast is one of the best JRE. There are good ones, I've listened to almost 1000, and this is definately in the top 10
Everyone is saying this is one of the best, Why is that? haven’t listened to it so just give me a broad answer if u can so I can decide to watch or not
Can you name some others?
name another, so lets see what the F*** your talking about
@@typonegatiff1254 The guy seems to be a security expert of sorts and we are living in a world that is exponentially going more digital, there’s probably alot of good security information and things you should or could be doing to keep your data safe.
@@joemq Off the top of my head, good ones:
Tulsi Gabbard
Mike Baker
Jordan Peterson
Bret Weinstein
Bernie Sanders
Lex Freidman
Jewel
Dr Phil
David Goggins
Jocko Willink
Bill Maher
Joey Diaz
Elon Musk
Great podcast. Great guest.
I'm a big fan of your commentary on the UFC, Joe. What's your approach to analyzing fights and breaking down the action?
13:15 ' I just treat every communication as if it could be heart ' best advice ever!
Ya but then we’re in 1984. That’s what they do in North Korea right now when they talk to each other.
@Ben Neumann because it's the truth. Granted you probably aren't important enough to be monitored and exploited but if you want to stay truly safe from manipulation, then yeah say all conversations on a phone as like your saying out loud because it is traceable at any given moment.
If you haven’t listen to the whole interview I promise you this is one of Joe’s best guests he’s had on the show.
It’s fucking awesome. I pity the tools who wrote this guy off, “he’s a shock comedian looking for views” I’ve been told by family members who let their GP play psychiatrist and who had Electric shock treatment for bipolar. I feel like i need to avenge my family for what they’ve done to our older generations and come to think of it, what they’re trying to do to us now
Needs this guy on way more than “former CeyeA Agent”
His brain is so preoccupied he loses track of the conversation at some point
Better than Brendan schaub?
@@amg863 Brendan is a beast. Another one of the bests.
Helpful
It's crazy enough what you discover about people online. I could only imagine.
So much respect for Mr. de Becker. Great author, I recommend his books.
Are they on cyber security
@@granand The ones I have are The Gift of Fear & Protecting the Gift
TGoF also goes into real world security, such as avoiding bring followed, avoiding being mugged, etc.
Every dad should consider giving "the gift of fear" to their daughters
@@thejohnbeck and sons
Gavin is a great speaker and author. Highly recommend several of his books.
WHICH ONES?
@@deenzmartin6695 The Gift of Fear and Protecting the Gift
Just 2 Second is a good read; start with The Gift of Fear
@@janawall3306 let me guess the title of the third book- protecting the gift of fear? lol
@@JTT85 very funny.
I am always so impressed by how Joe asks questions. I work in IT and have worked in security and I was wondering the same thing about could this backdoor be synced in the cloud to the device again. I think it is so awesome how well he listens.
That’s why the mainstream hate him. He comes across as simple, in sound bytes, but actually has the balls to ask technical questions.
they just zero day exploit it onto your next phone. it's below all the icloud stuff.
This isn't a back door. Apple doesn't make backdoors. This is an exploit.
A backdoor is leaving your keys under your carpet incase you lose it. An exploit is someone picking your lock to open it.
I was very impressed with the way he differentiated exploits between apps. Something you probably know but most people do not know is that the majority of exploits are very program and program version specific. Joe seemed to have a good grasp on this.
I’m looking for someone who works in cyber security to help me, if you know anyone.
very interesting guy one of the better interviews really enjoyed listening to this guy
Things like this makes me believe privacy never existed
privacy is an illusion
From the moment you are born, you are taged, documented, tracked. It hasn't always been this bad, around 911 twin towers, people lost privacy laws.
Edit: but it's for our safety
@@TheBfair21 Facts
@@x_____________ the only way to actually have privacy is to threaten people with loss of life and scare them enough to have PTSD into investing you. Like our government has created some privacy for themselves.
@@TheBfair21 "For our safety" hahahaha
Can we get hackers that send random 50k to our bank accounts? Like a Robin Hood Hacker? Damn always gotta be someone greedy. 😆
Nah all the good hackers get forced to work for government or they go to jail lol
Like those hackers from MW2 that would level up the whole server to 5th Prestige lmao
@@mochiman100 those guys were heros!
"Someone should do something. Not me tho "
I've about had enough!
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Fantastic!
This is amazing stuff
It's really important to at least know what ground we stand, we joke about the subject of privacy a lot so we all kinda know what's going on but to hear the situation being fully addressed with total seriousness it's refreshing and so eerie at the same time
This wasn't even the best part of the podcast. The exchange about the defense classes Gavin teaches was excellent. You could hear Joe's disgust at the proposition. Gavin took it with extreme class and flipped it around so expertly. I loved Joe realize that although his argument was correct, it wasn't the situation being discussed, and immediately change his tune was priceless. I really appreciated the maturity of Joe and his guests. The ability to listen to 2 people discuss important issues IN GOOD FAITH is why Rogan is so successful.
I’m watching the post malone tapes. Love having you on Spotify joe but I can’t comment 😪 BEST CHAT EVER
Worked for a financial institution. Im shocked at the number of our customers who fell for scams a d being convinced to download an app that gave the scammers direct access to their phones/computers. Not the first time i heard about this no click access but still amazed at this technology.
as a general rule of thumb 9/10 customer support agencies will never ask for remote desktop access. and to add another general if they're insisting and they're Indian .. beware😂
I use to be a manager at Sprint. When someone losses there phone or it gets stolen we can track it and see exactly where it's at on or off. We can also see all your texts and calls even after they are erased. All apps, pics, data and personal info we can access through our database. We can mirror your phone and watch what you or someone is doing on your phone in real time. Just imagine what the government can do if a cell phone provider can do this......
Crazy and scary honestly.
They can subpoena Sprint
That’s crazy. Have you or anyone you know ever used that power to snoop around on someone’s business?
Source? Sounds like nonsense to me that a cell provider could just have access to personal data AND phone mirroring.
@@gogo311 How does it sound like nonsense? It'd be insane not to know it already.
I worked for Sprint as well. Corporate office. You sir are in fact just telling lies.
I miss the 90's; before smartphones. 😥 It was such a better world.
Ffs Stop watching CZcams then!
Seriously fuck this. Why are we all tricked into thinking we need to have a smartphone in order to be involved and communicate and make a living, and stay informed, and have fun, and be happy, and not be bored. It's like we are all just a bunch of tards willingly shackling ourselves as we pretend to try and fit in and be normal. I hate that I'm a hypocrite
You can give all that up, i have. My only vice is surfing the web on my desktop occasionally. No social media at all, other than youtube really. No smart phone, no cell phone. Lifes actually great, people think they need a cell, that they NEED to be able to be reached 24/7, its a sickness. Ive seen people literally have psychotic attacks because they were away from a smart phone for a time
@@jonathansoko1085 people know they dont need their smartphone, but how do we help everyone realize they are tricking themselves into thinking they need it.
It was fine then. It’s fine now. It’ll be fine when people are telepathically texting each other long after your corpse is rotten. The earth abides.
Brilliant guest
can they get into your phone if you have no signal at all? there must be some code change or something in the phone when pegasus is in your phone. maybe a file size change or something. using phone resources maybe? also does it depend on how old your phone is or does pegasus work on only smart phone?
Gosh this is like when I'm trying to explain to my mom how wifi isn't the same as 4g.
The real question is, what if someone messages you on something other than WhatsApp?
JK. Is it me or has Joe been like this more and more recently? To the point where I’m driving and end up shouting at my phone in anger and disbelief he keeps missing a simple repeated point.
@@MT-hd2es @Quixx I'm so glad to hear I'm not the only one who was thinking these things. At this point I'm back listening to pre spotify episodes over again lol
wth is a gigabyte?
@@jeffrey-bc1ig I think it's a dark type move that heals your pokemon
@@jeffrey-bc1ig The great grandfather of the nanobot.
J: How many gbs there is in a phone?
G: I have no idea
Considering phones have different storage capacities and different amount of that storage is used, his answer would be a fair one.
Some of those newer d-googled phones come with toggle switches. You can manually turn off the camera and mic and internet and cell signal
I have literally had this happen to me and a friend where they see and know everything and have changed things and you have nothing to show as a normal person it's quite scary.
This one definitely gets put in my top 10. This episode was SO good. This guy Gavin is really fascinating.
Joe trying to get an answer on how to find out if they're in your phone... Lol they are def in yours my friend!!
With the amount of weird shit he probably looks at on his phone; he’s probably compromised. Joe “ am I hacked?” Rogan
Lmaoo you can tell he’s worried about sum.😂
I really dont care
@@cletotrece1257 no one asked
@@cletotrece1257 no body asked if YOU care or not, why would they, ur a nobody
This was really interesting 👍
'GIGABYTES of data were taken out of that phone"
- "gigabytes......how many gigabytes are in a phone...?"
'NO IDEA, DUNNO."
10:46
Joe: I don't wanna make a big leap in this Jeff Bezos thing
Makes the big leap
Then guest continues, naming countries and include Soviet Union like we're in pre-1991 times. *sigh*
Y
I've about had enough!
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I’ve never seen Joe so attentive and terrified
Joe has profound secrets
This guy was a great guest!
Ahhh good. I was just beginning to think "it's been a while since I've had a paranoid episode"....
This one will tie me over for a while.
Isn’t it funny how the ones who actually should be watched, are doing the watching. Imagine if we had transparent government systems.
I bet Saudi got a lot of interesting things from Mr nwo fake news democrat propaganda platform bezo .
And he is crapping his pants over it .
“Thank you thank you, thank you guys thank you, thank you guys let’s go. Thank you”
- the most transparent government
What a novel idea!
Guest: “They can access your phone without you ever knowing.”
Joe: “So it can be just a blank text?”
Guest: “It’s no click, they don’t even have to send you anything.”
Joe: “So can it be through Twitter?”
Guest: “… It’s no click, they don’t even have to send you anything.”
30 seconds later
Joe: “So like they can just send you a blank text and control your phone”
Guest: “How f ing high are you, it’s no click they don’t even have to send you anything. They only need to know your number”
Hahaha
So true 👍 not his greatest moment that one
@@scottishcelts2040 certainly wasn’t his brightest moment, but to be fair I’ve certainly had dumber moments
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought the same shit lol
what if you use phone without phone number?
I watch every available video on Gavin De Becker. The man is brilliant.
can you lock the install capacity of the phone, and do a checksum of everything thats on?
10:45 "GIGA BYTES?? How many giga bytes are on a phone?" "No idea."
That was shocking tbh 😂
Idk how I missed that lol.
Good observation.
Don’t know how many gigs are on a phone but I am damn sure Pegasus 2 is on it, yup
Seemed like a cagey response to me
All I'm getting from this is if government's really wanted to go after drug cartels, keep drugs out of prisons and trace money laundering they could. CA has 500 police agencies, about 30 state prisons, etc ( the economy would collapse ).
A big part of the system of keeping 3rd world countries poor and exploitable is laundering money from corruption and crime and injecting it directly into the economy of world powers like US or UK. There is a documentary here on CZcams called 'spider's web british second empire' or something like that that goes in depth.
Drug cartels are definitely part of the system, there is a famous case where a bank (I think it was citybank) was caught laundering money for Colombian cartels to transfer it into the US and literally no one got arrested, just got a small fine.
That's not the same. Hacking a target requires knowing a target, but in case of drug cartels, the leaders obviously try to remain anonymous, and use more secure channels than regular phones
@@Cookiekeks not really they could easily get the cartels lmfao theyre in one area not hard to infiltrate their network
@@GodsOfSc only in one area? they are spread out every where.. there’s not one city in Mexico without cartel members or affiliates.
One area??? They hide out in the fucking jungle. NOBODY finding them in their
nice video
Sounds about right !!
Joe knows he’s a target being as influential as he is
Could be
Fun fact: In Yugioh, Pegasus had the Millenium Eye which could see your opponents cards
That's our problem. We just need to enable trap cards on our phones. Check it out, it's under settings.
@@stapleman007 🤣
This video has been in my recommended all week. Is it any good?
How does a program on the phone do anything when the battery is taken out? Am I missing something? Thats the power source right? Where would it draw power to do an execute? Is there another power source?
3:22
With signal, the message you've typed to the other user is encrypted, but it isn't encrypted until you click send. If your phone is hacked already they can monitor your keystrokes you typed before you clicked send, and so they know what you're saying regardless because the hacker can see the message you typed before you clicked send.
Exactly. Cloning phones has come a long way from what it was a few years ago and they can see everything you can see on your phone so encrypted apps make no difference at all.
What's app ,signal etc are all useless if you get targeted with Pegasus or stuff like that
@@johnmorphy5435 I doubt they can get access to secured phones with for example GrapheneOS, or a secure Linux computer
John McAfee talked about that very same thing
I've about had enough!
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That's literally what the guys says :P
9:25 Joe's like "shit! thats me" haha
This is information that every cell phone company should share with their customers.
Yeah that will never happen. Lol
anything connected to the internet is done for
I read his book 20 years ago and it was fascinating.